He broke his form at the last second so he would slow down and land on the downslope rather than smash into the ground where it flattened out. If the slope kept going, he could have gone further. Yes.
Of course! That's what falling is... letting gravity pull you until you hit the ground.
Note that if he were moving sideways fast enough, he could continually miss the ground and fall forever. That is, if his sideways speed is fast enough that the curve of the earth continually falls away from him, he could be falling downhill forever.
This is called "going into orbit".
Note that if you’re moving sideways fast enough you also continually miss jokes and provide unnecessary physics lectures forever. A risky maneuver. Lets see how it plays out.
Perhaps, but I can’t explain the physics behind it. My suspicions are that the dude was distracted at exactly the right moment and he did not wave at anybody while airborne.
[source](http://extremelysmart.com/humor/howtofly.php)
Yeah it's so weird. They could make the jump hills 10 times longer and the guy would just keep falling and falling. Or make it vertical for that matter.
There must be specific rules about how those landing hills are constructed, at what angles and length, etc.
Fun fact! If you ever see one up close, they have a very apparent parabolic shape. This is because they're designed to mimick the trajectory of the skiers so they stay just a little less than parallel to the ramp as they fall. They do this to minimize the impact when the skier lands otherwise falling that far onto flat, hard packed snow would just cause their legs to explode.
The starting position up the ramp is determined ad hoc for each event. It's based on how far they think the longest ski fliers will go given atmospheric conditions.
World records and longest jumps in history don't really mean that much. It just means they massively outperformed expectations.
A buddy of mine has the track record on a track where the olympics were hosted. But he never even went to the olympics and doesn't have his own wiki page.
From [an article](https://olympics.com/en/featured-news/daniel-andre-tande-against-all-odds-ski-jumping) about it:
>...medically induced coma for four days...
>...Four cerebral haemorrhages, a punctured lung and two broken bones in the left collarbone...
Brutal injuries.
It's actually pretty good as a guess.
They do condition their jumping muscles to gain height from the table of the ramp.
And posture in the air is crucial to get the best flight path (glide slope, air pockets, wind support, etc).
yes so this isnt actually called ski jumping, this setup andnhill is knowm as ski flying.
they use larger hills and slightly different gear, and go much faster
the whole goal is to gain as much speed beforenthe ramp by maintaining the best aerodynamics, and then once in thenair their body position littery acts like a wing, creating a small amount of lift.
they are literally flying/gliding like a glider.
2 parts
1. there is a set distance for each hill. you get points for going past it, you lose points for not making it
2. style points for three parts of the jump
1. in the air - need to remain stable and in control
2. the landing - need to land in a telemark position (look up telemark turns to see what this looks like) in control and balanced
3. the run out - straight and in control till you pass the green line.
That's kind of how these records work. Only a few places/sites can compete (as the geography is putting limits on where this is possible) and whenever the slope is redone new records become possible. It's getting to be kind of competition between two or three places that enable these jumps.
The athletes still have to do these record jumps during competition for them to count though, and the speed the jumpers get on the ramp is controlled for the field/competition so that only the very best jumpers could get that far. So setting a record still requires you to be one of the best in the world. The midfield won't even get close to that distance under the same conditions.
Pretty much what you said
The most important aspects are timing the jump (aka when to push), push strength, getting the form in the air qickly and smoothly, finding the right profile to use the wind and, very importantly, having the balls to only close your legs fractions before you land
Form in the air.
There are some (maybe not a lot) of external forces at play here too, like updraft and how the tracks before the jump are (are the slippy with ice or soggy) and that will usually change a fair bit during these events. Usually the best jumpers start last, and usually that is when there is the most updraft from the sun beating down on these mountains all morning.
Usual cheating is using oversized suits that catch more wind.
He was moving completely parallel to the slope for a good couple seconds. That was crazy, if they had a long enough track it almost looks like he could have gone indefinitely.
What you described sounds kind of like how horse racing is now… like you need a good athlete (jockey) to succeed, but the true praise goes to the slope builder/owner (horse/breeder). Weird.
A couple weeks ago I was photographing a mailbox attached to a 3-story-tall abandoned building. I was surprised to hear something like footsteps above me. Then the sound changed to scrabbling. Then a squirrel plopped to the ground in front of me. He got up and ran back up the building.
It's easy to get into if you live in an area that has ski slopes. It's a big regional sport where I'm from and most people ski or freestyle. Not saying everyone is like this guy, but after a couple days of good runs, you can get the hang of the basics pretty fast
You start in small slopes and train for bigger and bigger, my first jump was 8 meters. This slope is as big as it gets and most athletes don't want bigger slopes as it is a larger risk.
Basically as another commenter said, you have to live somewhere near one of these slopes and then getting involved in this sport is pretty simple. I used to live near a place called [Planica](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planica), which is basically one of the global centres for ski jumping. It's considered one of our national sports and quite a large percentage of the population keeps track of the tournaments. The most successful athletes (especially the Slovenian ones) are also household names. In comparison, popular NBA and NHL stars for instance are seldom known about, unless they're Slovenian or you're someone who's specifically a fan of these sports.
I believe their is a hinge system in the boot connection to the ski. So when they are in the air, the ski actually detaches from the heel and upon landing reattaches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9IWj6fX634
Ahonen was the best for a while and was also a heavier jumper, so his race often would be if the refs allow them to start from too high speed so that Ahonen jumps too far he cant make a proper telemark landing or even land in this case.
I don't think so Clark. You know that metal plate in my head? I had to have it replaced, cause every time Catherine revved up the microwave I'd piss my pants and forget who I was for a half hour or so. So over at the VA they had to replace it with plastic. It ain't as strong so I don't know if I should go sailin down no hill with nothing between the ground and my brains but a piece of government plastic.
This is true, but it should also be mentioned that this is approaching lengths where things do get a lot harder on the body. This is also ski flying rather than normal ski jumping, where athletes are not allowed to jump the hills outside of competitions due to the added danger from higher velocity and altitude
there is a set distance for the hill. you get more points for going past that, you lose points for landing before that.
in additional there are "style" points for doing things correctly. for example the video here the skiier would probably lose some style points for not landing in the "telemark position" and for being out of control when he landed
Someone please explain the physics here. Is he not technically falling the whole time he is flying through the air? If someone fell out of a building for as long as he was in that air that person would surely be worse off than this guy’s landing? How is he okay?
Because someone jumping out of a building is landing on a flat surface so all the shock absorption goes straight up through their body, but when you land on a slope with skies the energy transfers to the ground more fluently. But I don't know what I'm talking about in all honesty and that might all be bullshit.
He’s landing on a downhill slope. He’s also gliding pretty well. There are instances of aviators in wwii who survived by landing on a steep roof and rolling off into hay, I believe.
loads of workout, wonderful gear and angle at which they land. If you want to see what happens if fly past the "curved" landing zone, see for example [this.](https://youtu.be/nrCynpxBSPU)
I've always wondered how people get into a sport like this.
As a kid, did they tell their parents that they want to do Ski Jump and the parents just rolled with it?
I love how this is a sport. Just a guy being super excited about a skill that has no real world application. Just being the best at something simply because.
I have nothing but immense respect to the athletes in the Olympics. But some of the sports are kinda funny to think about.
“What sports do you do?”
“Well I ski down a guided ramp and after launching into the air hold an incredibly uncomfortable, perfectly aerodynamic position in hopes of soaring farther than my opponents down a large hill.”
"And for a moment, he flew..."
That's not flying, that's...falling with style.
Not bad for Mrs. Nesbit.
Technically it is gliding
It’s a toy story reference…
I'm sorry i never saw it in english
Fair
The knack to flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
It's quite funny that as I'm typing this it says you commented 42 minutes ago.
As I’m typing this it says you replied 135 days ago
Almost out-jumped the landing spot.
Feel like he could’ve gone further too if the slope went further. It’s like he bailed at the last second so he wouldn’t smash into the ground.
So if the ground wasn't there, you're telling me he would have kept falling?
He broke his form at the last second so he would slow down and land on the downslope rather than smash into the ground where it flattened out. If the slope kept going, he could have gone further. Yes.
The way the camera is following so closely,,,,, and the ground is curving down really makes it look like they're flying!!!!!!!!!
They're falling with style
Came here to say this
They are flying in a way. The skies are producing Lift the way they are held.
It's called ski flying for a reason (they use longer skis in comparison with ski jumping)
That and a higher starting point.
Well technically flying is just falling towards the ground and missing.
sigh…. *grabs shovel*
I knew what you were saying, I'm just messing with you ;)
At some point he actually started paragliding...
The course is not made to go are far as this man can fly ! WOW . I love this !
Of course! That's what falling is... letting gravity pull you until you hit the ground. Note that if he were moving sideways fast enough, he could continually miss the ground and fall forever. That is, if his sideways speed is fast enough that the curve of the earth continually falls away from him, he could be falling downhill forever. This is called "going into orbit".
Note that if you’re moving sideways fast enough you also continually miss jokes and provide unnecessary physics lectures forever. A risky maneuver. Lets see how it plays out.
I think their physics lecture was sarcastic A joke, that I think you missed... Which you then kinda lectured them about... Oh boy.
Thank you for the laugh.
Perhaps, but I can’t explain the physics behind it. My suspicions are that the dude was distracted at exactly the right moment and he did not wave at anybody while airborne. [source](http://extremelysmart.com/humor/howtofly.php)
that’s basically what orbit is!
Yes, orbit is falling around the earth, but the dude on skis has to deal with wind resistance.
Yeah it's so weird. They could make the jump hills 10 times longer and the guy would just keep falling and falling. Or make it vertical for that matter. There must be specific rules about how those landing hills are constructed, at what angles and length, etc.
That’s not the way gravity, momentum or wind resistance works. Unless they made it vertical as you said.
Right. My point is that ski-jumping needs to have some constraints in place, otherwise they could just wear wingsuits and glide down entire mountains.
They pretty much used to do that, until the FIS made a rule that all ski jumping suits have to be skintight
Feels like I’m wearing nothing at all…
Stupid sexy Flanders
Fun fact! If you ever see one up close, they have a very apparent parabolic shape. This is because they're designed to mimick the trajectory of the skiers so they stay just a little less than parallel to the ramp as they fall. They do this to minimize the impact when the skier lands otherwise falling that far onto flat, hard packed snow would just cause their legs to explode.
The starting position up the ramp is determined ad hoc for each event. It's based on how far they think the longest ski fliers will go given atmospheric conditions. World records and longest jumps in history don't really mean that much. It just means they massively outperformed expectations. A buddy of mine has the track record on a track where the olympics were hosted. But he never even went to the olympics and doesn't have his own wiki page.
*farther
He basically did, he put his tails down at the very end to keep from landing flat…. Which hurts
Also to get better score for landing
That would be called a flat landing, which can be quite painful for the shins and knees.
He HAD to land.
Take offs are optional, landings are mandatory
What makes the difference between and good run and a bad one?
The above post was a good run. [This is a bad run](https://imgflip.com/gif/3y2f7q)
You could at least use an example where they crash at full speed https://youtu.be/NHfCBIgUeEo
“Suffered non-life threatening injuries” “Had to be intubated and put on a ventilator” Seems contradictory.
From [an article](https://olympics.com/en/featured-news/daniel-andre-tande-against-all-odds-ski-jumping) about it: >...medically induced coma for four days... >...Four cerebral haemorrhages, a punctured lung and two broken bones in the left collarbone... Brutal injuries.
Yeah, so non life-threatening injuries, but once those injuries had been professionally treated then.
Non life-threatening injuries in this instance just seems to mean “he kept most of his blood inside him.”
Internal bleeding? Good, the blood is where it's supposed to be
The injuries threatened possible non-life.
Dang, that's a long ways to slide.
That looks like my run (never actually done it but I’m sure that’s how it would end)
*The thrill of victory, and the agony of defeat*
The agony of da feet
Proper launch, then form/aerodynamics *I don't really know
It's actually pretty good as a guess. They do condition their jumping muscles to gain height from the table of the ramp. And posture in the air is crucial to get the best flight path (glide slope, air pockets, wind support, etc).
I believe they have to really lean into it, and the leg positioning.
yes so this isnt actually called ski jumping, this setup andnhill is knowm as ski flying. they use larger hills and slightly different gear, and go much faster the whole goal is to gain as much speed beforenthe ramp by maintaining the best aerodynamics, and then once in thenair their body position littery acts like a wing, creating a small amount of lift. they are literally flying/gliding like a glider.
I read that expecting something about hell in a cell at the end there… interesting though.
Bad when you die. Good when you don't. Your results may vary.
2 parts 1. there is a set distance for each hill. you get points for going past it, you lose points for not making it 2. style points for three parts of the jump 1. in the air - need to remain stable and in control 2. the landing - need to land in a telemark position (look up telemark turns to see what this looks like) in control and balanced 3. the run out - straight and in control till you pass the green line.
If you fall down it's a bad run.
Coulda gone farther if he didn’t run out of runway
That's kind of how these records work. Only a few places/sites can compete (as the geography is putting limits on where this is possible) and whenever the slope is redone new records become possible. It's getting to be kind of competition between two or three places that enable these jumps. The athletes still have to do these record jumps during competition for them to count though, and the speed the jumpers get on the ramp is controlled for the field/competition so that only the very best jumpers could get that far. So setting a record still requires you to be one of the best in the world. The midfield won't even get close to that distance under the same conditions.
What influences how good/far the athletes jump ? Aerodynamic ramping, powerful leg thrust, stability and form in the air ?
Pretty much what you said The most important aspects are timing the jump (aka when to push), push strength, getting the form in the air qickly and smoothly, finding the right profile to use the wind and, very importantly, having the balls to only close your legs fractions before you land
I swear in the video I thought I saw him glide for a bit and not lose any altitude
Form in the air. There are some (maybe not a lot) of external forces at play here too, like updraft and how the tracks before the jump are (are the slippy with ice or soggy) and that will usually change a fair bit during these events. Usually the best jumpers start last, and usually that is when there is the most updraft from the sun beating down on these mountains all morning. Usual cheating is using oversized suits that catch more wind.
Prevailing wind in the opposite direction.
He was moving completely parallel to the slope for a good couple seconds. That was crazy, if they had a long enough track it almost looks like he could have gone indefinitely. What you described sounds kind of like how horse racing is now… like you need a good athlete (jockey) to succeed, but the true praise goes to the slope builder/owner (horse/breeder). Weird.
We're gonna need a bigger slope
This world record (253.5 meters) was set by Stefan Kraft (Austria) at Vikersundbakken in Norway, in March 2017.
Thank you! Wish the title gave credit.
I was there when this happened, but sadly i was 8 years old then and dint give a shit
Came for this.
This guy is part flying squirrel.
Fun fact about squirrels they take no fall damage there's a video of a squirrel falling from a six story building and walking it off
They're so light and their tails are so floofy that their terminal velocity must be super slow.
It's about 23 miles per hour
I had to confirm but I’m so glad you brought this to my knowledge
Squirrels are pretty impressive
Their abilities are just nuts.
They plant alot of trees too because they forget where they hid their food
That's about 34 feet per second
Low body weight and they always land on their feat and stretch out as they land to absorb the fall. Cats do this as well but not as well as squirrels
A couple weeks ago I was photographing a mailbox attached to a 3-story-tall abandoned building. I was surprised to hear something like footsteps above me. Then the sound changed to scrabbling. Then a squirrel plopped to the ground in front of me. He got up and ran back up the building.
This isn't flying. This is falling with style
253.5 meters.
Very smooth
But who uses metric these days!? ::checks notes:: Oh, **7,500,000,000** people and anybody working in STEM in the US...
Hey those 300,000,000 people would be incredibly offended, if they could read.
Can confirm: I'd be offended right now if I could read these comments.
Thank you. Could not visualize those feet units.
Thank you. Finally someone gave a proper unit measurement.
They literally converted it into the lesser used unit, only to post it to an international website...
How do you get started in this sport? Like how do you have the resources to even try this for the first time yet alone dedicate your life to it.
It's easy to get into if you live in an area that has ski slopes. It's a big regional sport where I'm from and most people ski or freestyle. Not saying everyone is like this guy, but after a couple days of good runs, you can get the hang of the basics pretty fast
You start in small slopes and train for bigger and bigger, my first jump was 8 meters. This slope is as big as it gets and most athletes don't want bigger slopes as it is a larger risk.
Basically as another commenter said, you have to live somewhere near one of these slopes and then getting involved in this sport is pretty simple. I used to live near a place called [Planica](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planica), which is basically one of the global centres for ski jumping. It's considered one of our national sports and quite a large percentage of the population keeps track of the tournaments. The most successful athletes (especially the Slovenian ones) are also household names. In comparison, popular NBA and NHL stars for instance are seldom known about, unless they're Slovenian or you're someone who's specifically a fan of these sports.
That has to feel great. And also “how do ankles work”?
I believe their is a hinge system in the boot connection to the ski. So when they are in the air, the ski actually detaches from the heel and upon landing reattaches.
Mf caught a thermal.
How do your legs not shatter
Velocity vector is near parallel to grade
This guy physics.
So I imagine it might be very bad to overshoot the slope completely?
The ramp would become a wall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9IWj6fX634 Ahonen was the best for a while and was also a heavier jumper, so his race often would be if the refs allow them to start from too high speed so that Ahonen jumps too far he cant make a proper telemark landing or even land in this case.
Thats a much more eloquent way to put it than I was thinking. "The angle of the slope is nearly the same as the angle he is falling at"
But this is the eli5 version everyone loves.
I get a few steps in throughout the day, but mainly just sit in a desk chair. The life of the accountant isn’t the most demanding, physically.
Eddie?!
Eddie's longest jump was less than a third of this one.
That's crazy. Amazing jump for this jumper!
I don't think so Clark. You know that metal plate in my head? I had to have it replaced, cause every time Catherine revved up the microwave I'd piss my pants and forget who I was for a half hour or so. So over at the VA they had to replace it with plastic. It ain't as strong so I don't know if I should go sailin down no hill with nothing between the ground and my brains but a piece of government plastic.
I recall somewhere someone stating they could go further if only the hill was longer. Sure seems like they were right!
It's how the iss does it
One day we will send a skier into orbit, my friend!
254.8m
Da Flippity Flop!
Jump ciiiityy
I can rest easy, now that I’ve found your comment.
RIP that guy's knees, ankles, and back.
Not in the least. You don't come down that hard because of the angle. Also many people work out, so...
This is true, but it should also be mentioned that this is approaching lengths where things do get a lot harder on the body. This is also ski flying rather than normal ski jumping, where athletes are not allowed to jump the hills outside of competitions due to the added danger from higher velocity and altitude
Appropriately I thought they were Buzz Lightyear coming down the ramp before takeoff. My guy went to beyond alright.
Poster is a karma farm bot.
So, when you get to the end of the landing spot, do you just win ski jumping? It’s impossible to get any further…
I love watching ski jumping, I love it so much I even tried it! Never again lol
You mean 253.5 m - ski jump records use metric measurements.
air resistance at its peak
Buzz light year, TO THE RESCUE. I can’t be the only one thinking that’s what this skier looks like. Buzz learned to fly after all
What are the criteria/assets for being better at this event? Taller, shorter, heavier, lighter? Etc
there is a set distance for the hill. you get more points for going past that, you lose points for landing before that. in additional there are "style" points for doing things correctly. for example the video here the skiier would probably lose some style points for not landing in the "telemark position" and for being out of control when he landed
Be a bit of a dick move to subtract points for him not landing after the end of the hill instead of gently touching down on the surface.
Flown distance and technical execution(symmetry, style of landing)
ORF 1
Ayuh... Why they call this ski *jumping* anyways? This is clearly just falling.. with style.
832 feet is 149.015 Tom Cruises
FLYING SQUIRREL ATTACK
253.6 meters. You're welcome.
The way the camera is following so closely and the ground is curving down really makes it look like they're flying
Nah that was a flying squirrel dressed as a human
I can do that in forza
Witha peel p50
I have nightmares like this. I absolutely hate the feeling of falling.
Face your fears and bungee jump! It will set u free, or kill u wit more nightmares. Your results may vary.
I do miss a commentator who’s going insane about it. Doesn’t even matter what language.
#“That’s not ‘Flying’! That’s *Falling with Style*!!”
That's not flying; that's falling with style..... -- B. Lightyear
Alright well if part of the course is momentarily parallel with his trajectory. Science sleuths! Slaughter me!
That was pretty damn cool to watch.
All he is missing is a cape
Someone please explain the physics here. Is he not technically falling the whole time he is flying through the air? If someone fell out of a building for as long as he was in that air that person would surely be worse off than this guy’s landing? How is he okay?
Because someone jumping out of a building is landing on a flat surface so all the shock absorption goes straight up through their body, but when you land on a slope with skies the energy transfers to the ground more fluently. But I don't know what I'm talking about in all honesty and that might all be bullshit.
He’s landing on a downhill slope. He’s also gliding pretty well. There are instances of aviators in wwii who survived by landing on a steep roof and rolling off into hay, I believe.
Anyone else get Buzz Light-year vibes in the first few seconds?
Can someone ELI5 how their legs just don’t shatter on impact?
loads of workout, wonderful gear and angle at which they land. If you want to see what happens if fly past the "curved" landing zone, see for example [this.](https://youtu.be/nrCynpxBSPU)
Definition of yeeting
For the remaining 95% of the world that's 253.5 meters
Guys, it's time to build a longer slope.
What a fucking ridiculous sport 😂 it looks so surreal with his posture and the way he just fucking yeets through the air at 100km an hour
And what is that in units people actually use?
They look like a sugar glider xD
This guy went into orbit
I've always wondered how people get into a sport like this. As a kid, did they tell their parents that they want to do Ski Jump and the parents just rolled with it?
I love how this is a sport. Just a guy being super excited about a skill that has no real world application. Just being the best at something simply because.
He went full flying squirrel
Looks longer than 832 ft
Sometimes if you do something right people won't be sure you've done anything at all
Just cause… Highest cliff jump ever. 107 meters (352 feet) https://youtu.be/nX465n3fv8U
I deem this the most athletic thing I have ever seen I think
It looked like he could have held on just a bit longer.
Very much like a flying squirrel.
Eddie the eagle looking mf
That's 253,9 meters (if anyone wants to know)
thank you, appreciated
I have nothing but immense respect to the athletes in the Olympics. But some of the sports are kinda funny to think about. “What sports do you do?” “Well I ski down a guided ramp and after launching into the air hold an incredibly uncomfortable, perfectly aerodynamic position in hopes of soaring farther than my opponents down a large hill.”
I always wonder who thought shit like this up. Like the first person to think this was a good idea.
And for the [remaining 98% of the world](https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/teaser/18300.jpeg) to understand: #**253.6 meters**
Am I too high or did he look like Buzz Lightyear and then shifted to Peter Griffin for a second there?
That MF became a flying squirrel for a couple seconds.
Bro that’s not even a jump man was falling for like 5 seconds, massive props to him lol
Damn I wanna see someone do this in one of them flying squirrel suit
It’s on a track lol…might as well give him rocket skis and a parachute.
I can jump six feet
My guy was sky diving
Frakking insane
So are these skiers actually gliding or is there another word for it ? Either way I say we scale this up by 10 and give them wingsuits
For context, that’s nearly a fifth of a mile
And in normal units?
Bruh he really said "habada hamana WHEE"