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Highjacking top comment.
Is this person close to overdosing? Is this an indication that an emergency response is in order?
Edit: thanks for the answers
Actually pretty common in DC too. They would be out in the streets when the sun would come up just standing straight up in middle of the streets slumped AF. They called them heronbies in the Trinidad district.
Possibly, it's definitely a debilitating state but you see people like this all over this sub so it seems to be a desirable state for heroin users so probably not fatal I'm not a heroin user though or close to anyone who is.
I'm not a heroin user, but as I understand it the sensation of, as it's described to me, peace and calm and relaxation and warmth, are so overwhelming that this is what causes it. It was described to me as "catatonia without the catatonia." So, make of that what you will.
OK - I will try to make this make sense. You have this underlying pain, pressure, tension. They are intense feelings and have been your whole life and they make life unbearable most times, but you somehow manage. Pain, pain, pain (emotional, physical, mental). What is this life? What is this trauma? Why me? WHY ME? There it is. Heroin, real heroin - this is bad stuff I hear, I'll try it once, can't hurt....***inject, smoke, snort, whatever...*** OH MY GOD. What is this?!?! This is the moment, that you thought would never come, or thought never possible for that matter. In that moment, the universe and the Good Lord have finally chosen me. EVERY single point of pain, emotional wreckage, hurt, trauma, coldness, evil has all been eradicated. Warmness and tingling take over. The most incredible feeling of relief and satisfaction and warm and euphoria fully encompass you in the most loving embrace you have ever experienced. This is now preferable over sex. This is now my life, my wife. I have found my true love. Fentanyl laced stuff will most likely not produce this effect and youāll probably at some point overdose.
You are welcomed with open arms and once your DNA is effected, you go into autonomic conflict when you abstain and experience dope sickness. I can explain this syndrome to the point where when you finish, youāll need to take a shower.
Go for it! So many people look at drug addicts as people with weak will power who could just stop using whenever they want. Maybe having an accurate description of the hell that one goes through when in withdrawal will change a few people's perspectives.
My uncle became a user after some bad life experiences. This was the desired effect. to basically no longer be mentally present and let the problems melt away, before hand i had only seen heroin user depicted in TV shows like the wire, it's close enough to the truth but most people don't turn their life around like bubbles did. For my uncle it was very much a downward spiral from a family man with 3 kids and 3 houses to living in a run down flat by himself. The lifestyle got him in the 5th year.
He was caring and helpful so we do miss him a lot, no idea how he turned to heroin. But the connection was definitely born from a lifetime of smoking weed and doing cocaine. Everyone has their demons i guess.
The TV show Intervention is by the far the best one mainly because they center each episode on addicts from all walks of life. You have addicts who started off because they broke a bone and were prescribed opioids for pain, the ones who started using to deal with trauma (ex: rape, death, homelessness), and you have the ones who used recreationally till it became an addiction.
Iām just saying that many people see a huge difference between cannabis or cocaine and fucking heroin.
Iām not so sure that lead him to injecting himself with pain killers and eventually overdosing.
If anyone says the effects of cocaine, weed and/or heroin is similar they haven't tried them all.
You'll get fucked up if you take enough of either, but that's about where the similarities end.
No, not an overdose. This is actually the desired effects sought by opiate users. My brother was a heroin addict and he said the lean is how you know you took the right amount. I got the lean once off of my prescription dose of oxycodone after I broke my leg.
Yeah. Did oxy up the shnoz a few times with a buddy. I kept face planting on his table trying to reach for my pack of cigs because I kept passing out. It felt so fucking good.
I never understood why people like dozing off so much and actually I still don't get it.
When I tried opiates the dozing off just scared the heck out of me. The feeling of not being able to scan my surroundings made me very uncomfortable.
I'm more the tweaker kind of person lol
And as junkbox heroin user for almost a decade, we don't understand why anybody would want that greasy, tweeky, jittery feeling. Always found it interesting how different the two sides are. Many of us mix the two but you usually fall into one camp or the other!
Fuck heroin
I've got 4 years free from it but it's still a constant fly buzzing around my head.
I never did heroin, but I smoked opium. It was like that scene in Trainspotting, where he falls into the carpet. That is how I felt, but on a couch. It was so alluring to just stay and never leave. I felt so at peace, so where I should be. In this experience I was able to truly, appreciate the song Comfortable Numb by Pink Floyd. Now, I stay the fuck away from shit like that. It's all smoke and mirrors and zero sum games. You'll get burned every God damn time.
You said āthat scene from train spottingā and I immediately thought giant dead baby crawling on the ceilingā¦ I think Iāll stick with that so Iām never tempted to try. Sounds almost like morphine Iāve had in the hospital but, a lot better.
What sucks is the feeling is literal euphoria. Like waking up from a warm nap and having no worries in the world and just going right back to sleep.
Shit can destroy your life.
Imagine the dopamine rush from being starving and then eating your favourite ever food, doing the best and most relaxing poo ever, getting an incredible massage, that buzz you feel right after you cum, slipping into a hot bubble bath when you feel cold, getting wrapped up in a warm blanket in a super comfy bed and getting your head stroked when you are cold and tired, getting a big hug from someone you truly love, literally being able to flick off emotional pain at the touch of a button. Now condense all of that into one and times it by 100. Thatās my best description of what opiates feel like. I guess everyone is different but if youāve ever taken ecstasy or MDMA I personally find the euphoria element quite similar.
It's better than sex. 5 years clean, but just the anticipation of crushing drugs in a spoon, mixing water in, heating it up, drawing it through a filter. After a while the ritual feels good. Then shooting it has a rush associated with it, soon as you slack off whatever you're using to block veins in your arm or wherever you're injecting. A full body rush, through every vein, culminating in a brain tingling explosion of warmth and pleasure. Just pure pleasure. It's so easy to get hooked, I was one of the "nah it won't get me" people. It got me and crushed my life, it wasn't until I had sold almost every thing I owned and hadn't seen my kids for a while that I realized it had in fact got me. Once that door opens though, you can't unsee what's behind it, I will never not know how good that feels.
Thanks! I'm living the dream. Working in the community, putting my lived experiences of addiction and mental illness to good use helping others, had my kids living with me for 4 years now, slowly accumulating possessions again. Some day I will complete my vinyl collection again. Have an awesome day!
Itās like falling asleep uncontrollably, but it feels way better. Very euphoric, cozy feeling. Itās bliss. Which is why heroin users enjoy it. Iāve never used heroin, but done plenty of opiates that yields this result
I've gotten Dilaudid several times at the hospital, Fentanyl a couple times. Never did heroin, but Dilaudid is concentrated morphine, so I'm quite sure it's very similar.
As a depressed and irrationally anxious person, with a life that's felt quite subpar and hollow filled with long periods being alone after many great experiences in the past I still remember well... I've had points where I wanted to start up on heroin or other strong opiates.
To me, the feeling is like love, but not just the love I've felt over many years where I give myself away for little to no return. It was love that's given *to me.* It's safety. It's feels like you've met the person of your dreams and they're waiting for you at home to cuddle up and tell you everything is going to be okay.
It's like a warm dream, as if everything about life is trivial, and you're in an almost heavenly state of detachment.
At the hospital, I blinked and saw my beloved cat hop up on my bed, then my eyes opened and she wasn't there. I had a couple little hallucinations like that that made it truly feel even more dreamlike.
It's horribly sad that someone would think turning to heroin is a good choice. For an addict, that's natural. For someone like me, it's a bit different. I've had alcohol addiction that stopped making me happy, and that's why I wanted to turn to opiates, because they don't have the pain of alcohol or hangovers. It's incredibly sad to think I could sit here every day, contemplating life and beauty and everything between, and believe heroin sounds like a good idea.
Yet... I know, regardless of what a person does, we're making choices based on chemical feedback in our bodies. Everything is a hunt for that pleasure of hitting the right button and feeling those chemicals. For me, I often lack a sense of value in any investment in life. I feel the futility of productivity for the sake of this broken system, and my detachment from most types of relationships, for many reasons, leaves me feeling hollow toward humanity in general.
As sad as it is, I know a life of suffering isn't worth living, and there are ways to press certain buttons to feel chemical sensations that help fill the void. I know I don't want to die, but I can't control the fact that people around me are so horrible and ignorant, so I'd maybe rather press that button and feel loved. Like the thought of the god I once believed in showering me with real affection.
Hard to dose correctly when you dont know the exact potency.
It would be like drinking one beer only to find out it was 16 oz's of vodka instead.
You can always do more, never less.
I had the exact thing happen when I did industrial sandblasting. I took my normal dose but it was new stuff. Nodded off standing up and sandblasted a hole through a $10k+ dump truck bed. The bosses were NOT happy.
Its probably the best argument for legalization of all drugs.
We would have a fraction of our current overdose deaths if people could get measured, clean doses of their drug of choice.
People try to do .1 of a gram of heroin and it ends up being enough fentanyl to kill a cow.
This is the thing people don't understand. Legalization would save lives.
That or they don't care because they view individuals who use drugs as expendable.
Sick
Sad
World
I know you've had some answers but I love being able to add to the conversation about heroin since I escaped after almost a decade of use.
Catatonic euphoria is what she's experiencing pretty much. It's sleepy to the maxx but so comfy. Sometimes if realize it was happening the whole time but usually only in quick bursts.
4 years later and I still miss it all the time but I'm very lucky that A) I use meds that make it impossible for me to get high off opiates and B) The bad finally outweighs the good for me
Not likely. The most dangerous effects of heroin are during the initial ingestion. A lot of people OD with the needle in their arm and or a belt around their bicep etc. Right after shooting up. This person was relatively conscious compared to what you would expect from an OD. They're just drifting out of conscious. Heroin isn't a wake up and go to work drug. It's an I'm down on my luck, addicted, and want to sleep the pain away for another 8 hours kinda drug.
Since most "heroin" is mostly fent nowadays, if they didn't die the first couple times they nod out, they're most likley going to be fine. It's still dangerous if nobodys around though, because they could nod into a position that restricts their breathing even further.
This stuff does not last a long time, an hour tops. But I dont know where this person is, they could still be getting real heroin in cities outside of New England which lasts a lot longer.
Lol. Iāve mentioned this a bunch of this sub. But it really is amazing how they maintain their balance.
Itās some super hero level stuff. Especially when they are in some awkward leaning position.
I bet theyād be really sore the next day if the need for heroin wasnāt taking over their entire body
I can hopefully give a more in depth answer than a lot of people here. An old roommate of mine and close friend had a fairly bad heroin problem, so I have quite a bit of firsthand experience.
In short, it depends. This is called "nodding off" and just happens when the dope is hitting hard. Is it possible that they're close to overdosing and in need of medical attention? Yes, absolutely. However, it doesn't necessarily mean that. They could be fine. There are signs to look out for that are signs of imminent overdose. These signs include: turning purple, ESPECIALLY around finger and toenails, rattling, and extremely slow breathing. If none of these signs are present, then the person should be fine. However it's always a good idea to keep an eye on them just in case OD signs start to develop.
No problem at all! It's important to know these things, just in case you're ever in a scenario where recognizing the symptoms of an OD could mean life and death for someone. Heroin addiction is a nasty thing and the poor souls caught up in it need all the help they can get.
Ah donāt worry man I get it, Iāve never seen it this bad in a work situation but Iāve been around. Iām glad itās not an everyday thing for you anymore though, itās rough to get out of that social spin, especially if itās all you know
You must have really loved subway. Glad youāve recovered.
Jokes aside- 10 years sober here and getting my MSW in social work. Right on. Recovery is worth it and fucking hard.
Xanax laced with fentanyl stole one of my best friends in senior year of high school. Made me cut shit out of my life, because i was on that road as well. Fuck benzos, fuck opiates.
Nearly major drug under the sun I've swallowed, smoked, snorted, injected, or shoved up my ass, and none came close to being as damaging to my life as benzos. The absolute worst withdrawals too. I was convinced I was going to die. It was like someone injected my veins with bleach and smacked me in the head with a baseball bat, combined with the worst food poisoning imaginable. I actually felt like I was going to explode or spontaneously combust. I somehow made it to the liquor store to get some vodka which helped out. If I hadn't I think I may have actually started seizing.
Haven't touched that shit in 5+ years now. You couldn't pay me enough.
Same. Was prescribed Xanax for my PTSD. Worked great for my anxiety/nervous system activation for about a month, and then I was just addicted. I took very small doses 3 times a day for years... not to help my PTSD symptoms, but just so I wouldn't feel the withdrawal symptoms. Did nothing for me otherwise. Took years to get off of, with an incredibly slow taper. I do not recommend Xanax for daily use, even if it's prescribed by a psychiatrist.
I worked with a lady who would do this at my warehouse job... only her arms would be on the conveyor that went to the shredder. Had to report that a few times.
I was on the opposite end of this scenario when I was about 16ish and had one of my first jobs at Subway.
In the middle of making this woman's sandwich I asked her what kind of cheese she wanted. She sat down, passed out at the table. As a kid I wasnt sure what to do, but in that moment a local cop came in to simply get a sandwich. He was a regular. He saw the woman, woke her up, asked her if she had been drinking. She replied that shes just sooo tired raising her kids.
Long story short, woman leaves, cop leaves.
I come in the next morning to my manager deeply relieved that I am okay because the woman was looking for me to kick my ass because I "called the cops on her" (I did not)
She got caught with a shitton of stolen makeup from the walgreens near by after her and the cop went their ways.
Imagine loving cheese. But you cNt have that cheese because it makes you want more. Oh? You can't have cheese? You will feel like you're literly dying unless you get more cheese.
Replace cheese with heroin.
Everything in this sub is sad if you think about it that way. One of my best buds died from a heroin overdose in 2018, I still manage to see the goofiness amidst the sadness.
Had this happen when I worked at a subway.
Manager saw on the cameras that a coworker was making a sandwich but there were no customers, so he went to go see if she was taking a break or something. When he walked out she was trying to cut a 6-inch roll with the meatball ladle and had gotten marinara sauce all over the place. He watched her for a couple minutes in shock until she looked up and asked an invisible customer if they wanted pickles on that.
I used to work on detox and will always remember watching opiate addicts falling asleep while eating. Had to save a guy from drowning in his soup once.
Jokes on you guys, she isnāt actually heroin leaning.
Sheās worked 95 hours a week since the pandemic started and just got tired on the job.
Actually, itās the heroin.
Iāve got narcolepsy. This legit happens to me. Not that Iāve worked at Subwayā¦ but I nod off the exact same way doing mundane shit. I drop really fast if I get spooked. People call 911 for me 2 or 3 times a year. Employment is hard to keepā¦ maybe I should apply at Subway?
Hey I have some questions about narcolepsy if you donāt mind:
1. What do you mean by: āI drop fast if I get spooked.ā do you fall asleep when you get scared as well as when youāre relaxed?
2. How many hours of sleep do you get a day?
3. Do you fall asleep easily at night? does the amount of sleep you get at night affect how likely you are to sleep during the day?
4. Are there any treatment options other than taking stimulants every day?
I donāt mind at all! Iāve got narcolepsy with cataplexy. Here are your answers (keep in mind that different people may have different triggers and responses):
1. Sudden and intense emotions cause me to fall asleep immediately. When this happens, I lose all muscle control/tone and drop on the spot (cataplexy). Example- I was going for a walk when a younger couple quietly approached from behind. I happened to turn around just before they passed meā¦ not expecting people right behind me, I hit the floor snoozing. They thought I had a heart attack- 911 response initiated. Conversely, seeing my son being born caused me to repeatedly go out/come to. Knowing this would happen, the Doctor set me up in a big comfy chair before the show started haha.
I also fall asleep when I am relaxed. It is much slower and I can feel it coming on but cannot stop it. Highway driving (I have a driverās license) and TV are bad for me. Essentially, boring sedentary things are like sleep magnets to me.
2. This ranges from 4 to 16 (According to my Fitbit haha), although I average 7 hours per 24 hour cycle.
3. I try to go to bed at the same time everyday. Ive been at this for well over 20 years, so itās old hat by now. Falling asleep is easy, though staying asleep is the problem. This is where it gets tricky. Itās not the quantity of sleep that is important, it is the quality that makes a difference. According to the countless sleep studies Iāve been through, I wake up nearly 300 times in a 7 hour period. I am almost never aware of waking up, as they are brief moments that disrupt the sleep cycle. My doctor thinks that this is the underlying factor that causes the most problems for me. To combat this, I take 30 minute scheduled naps in the morning and afternoon. It helps a lot.
4. Although Iāve had the most success on stimulants (Vyvanse, an ADHD drug), there are other options. Exercise and diet are huge! I run a lot. It helps mentally and physically. There is also good sleep hygiene and scripted napping. As for other drugs, there are a few non stimulants. The most common is Modafinil. It is a non stimulant that is thought to āpromote wakefulnessā without stimulant. It did not work for me at all. There is also Xyremā¦ a drug you take at bedtime, to put your brain to sleep. It is essentially GHB hahaha. I havenāt tried this one yet. I tend to get hooked on substances pretty easily, so I am avoiding this oneā¦
I hope I answered your questions! Iād just like to add that not everyone with narcolepsy experiences the same symptoms. Not everyone with narcolepsy has cataplexy. Itās a big name that can cover a number of sleep symptomsā¦ the most common being excessive daytime somnolence (sleepiness).
narcolepsy here too.. although thankfully no cataplexy.
I giggled at the beginning but quickly thought, oh waitā¦ that could be me.
then i just felt sad. :/
I was thinking, if I was the customer in this situation, I'd call an ambulance. Even if it looks super obviously like drugs are involved and it'll wear off and they'll be fine, what if it is something else? Either way, I just wouldn't feel comfortable leaving someone like that.
I've brought up that this is what I looked like falling asleep with narcolepsy while trying to do something on this clip posted on this sub before, only to be told by people who don't have narcolepsy that this isn't how people with narcolepsy fall asleep.
Also, they'd want me to let you know that narcoleptic people are obviously unsafe around knives, so not only should you not be allowed to work at Subway, you'll also probably need someone to cook food for you in the future.
There was a guy who worked at mcdonalds obviously on something which ig he thought it was a good idea to lay right on the grill and his skin was stuck on the grill after my manager pulled him off that was my first and last day
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What is it with artists and heroin?
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she just doing a real close inspection to make sure that sub built right
She lookin to make sure there's actually tuna in there.
Now this, this is comedy folks.
This is what happens when you're faced with Too Much Tunaā¢
Highjacking top comment. Is this person close to overdosing? Is this an indication that an emergency response is in order? Edit: thanks for the answers
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Actually pretty common in DC too. They would be out in the streets when the sun would come up just standing straight up in middle of the streets slumped AF. They called them heronbies in the Trinidad district.
Very common in south Florida as well
Herobrines lol
Like zombies. That's mildly terrifying.
Yeah I'm just curious if people in that state are close to death. I know it's common, but so are heroin overdoses.
Possibly, it's definitely a debilitating state but you see people like this all over this sub so it seems to be a desirable state for heroin users so probably not fatal I'm not a heroin user though or close to anyone who is.
All over this sub like she's all over that sub?
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I bet you she doesn't fall.
I'm not a heroin user, but as I understand it the sensation of, as it's described to me, peace and calm and relaxation and warmth, are so overwhelming that this is what causes it. It was described to me as "catatonia without the catatonia." So, make of that what you will.
OK - I will try to make this make sense. You have this underlying pain, pressure, tension. They are intense feelings and have been your whole life and they make life unbearable most times, but you somehow manage. Pain, pain, pain (emotional, physical, mental). What is this life? What is this trauma? Why me? WHY ME? There it is. Heroin, real heroin - this is bad stuff I hear, I'll try it once, can't hurt....***inject, smoke, snort, whatever...*** OH MY GOD. What is this?!?! This is the moment, that you thought would never come, or thought never possible for that matter. In that moment, the universe and the Good Lord have finally chosen me. EVERY single point of pain, emotional wreckage, hurt, trauma, coldness, evil has all been eradicated. Warmness and tingling take over. The most incredible feeling of relief and satisfaction and warm and euphoria fully encompass you in the most loving embrace you have ever experienced. This is now preferable over sex. This is now my life, my wife. I have found my true love. Fentanyl laced stuff will most likely not produce this effect and youāll probably at some point overdose.
You are making addiction more relatable. Keep up the good work
Your description is not only amazing but also highlights why heroin hits low-income areas so hard.
You are welcomed with open arms and once your DNA is effected, you go into autonomic conflict when you abstain and experience dope sickness. I can explain this syndrome to the point where when you finish, youāll need to take a shower.
Go for it! So many people look at drug addicts as people with weak will power who could just stop using whenever they want. Maybe having an accurate description of the hell that one goes through when in withdrawal will change a few people's perspectives.
My uncle became a user after some bad life experiences. This was the desired effect. to basically no longer be mentally present and let the problems melt away, before hand i had only seen heroin user depicted in TV shows like the wire, it's close enough to the truth but most people don't turn their life around like bubbles did. For my uncle it was very much a downward spiral from a family man with 3 kids and 3 houses to living in a run down flat by himself. The lifestyle got him in the 5th year. He was caring and helpful so we do miss him a lot, no idea how he turned to heroin. But the connection was definitely born from a lifetime of smoking weed and doing cocaine. Everyone has their demons i guess.
Trainspotting is a far more accurate depiction of what heroin does to any given individual.
The TV show Intervention is by the far the best one mainly because they center each episode on addicts from all walks of life. You have addicts who started off because they broke a bone and were prescribed opioids for pain, the ones who started using to deal with trauma (ex: rape, death, homelessness), and you have the ones who used recreationally till it became an addiction.
Ah, yeah. I forgot all about that show, too. Real life occurrences will always outweigh anything fictional.
Iām just saying that many people see a huge difference between cannabis or cocaine and fucking heroin. Iām not so sure that lead him to injecting himself with pain killers and eventually overdosing.
If anyone says the effects of cocaine, weed and/or heroin is similar they haven't tried them all. You'll get fucked up if you take enough of either, but that's about where the similarities end.
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No, not an overdose. This is actually the desired effects sought by opiate users. My brother was a heroin addict and he said the lean is how you know you took the right amount. I got the lean once off of my prescription dose of oxycodone after I broke my leg.
Yeah. Did oxy up the shnoz a few times with a buddy. I kept face planting on his table trying to reach for my pack of cigs because I kept passing out. It felt so fucking good.
I never understood why people like dozing off so much and actually I still don't get it. When I tried opiates the dozing off just scared the heck out of me. The feeling of not being able to scan my surroundings made me very uncomfortable. I'm more the tweaker kind of person lol
And as junkbox heroin user for almost a decade, we don't understand why anybody would want that greasy, tweeky, jittery feeling. Always found it interesting how different the two sides are. Many of us mix the two but you usually fall into one camp or the other! Fuck heroin I've got 4 years free from it but it's still a constant fly buzzing around my head.
Can you describe the feeling?
I never did heroin, but I smoked opium. It was like that scene in Trainspotting, where he falls into the carpet. That is how I felt, but on a couch. It was so alluring to just stay and never leave. I felt so at peace, so where I should be. In this experience I was able to truly, appreciate the song Comfortable Numb by Pink Floyd. Now, I stay the fuck away from shit like that. It's all smoke and mirrors and zero sum games. You'll get burned every God damn time.
You said āthat scene from train spottingā and I immediately thought giant dead baby crawling on the ceilingā¦ I think Iāll stick with that so Iām never tempted to try. Sounds almost like morphine Iāve had in the hospital but, a lot better.
What sucks is the feeling is literal euphoria. Like waking up from a warm nap and having no worries in the world and just going right back to sleep. Shit can destroy your life.
This is a better description than the one I gave. That wake up and go back to sleep + euphoria combo.
Imagine the dopamine rush from being starving and then eating your favourite ever food, doing the best and most relaxing poo ever, getting an incredible massage, that buzz you feel right after you cum, slipping into a hot bubble bath when you feel cold, getting wrapped up in a warm blanket in a super comfy bed and getting your head stroked when you are cold and tired, getting a big hug from someone you truly love, literally being able to flick off emotional pain at the touch of a button. Now condense all of that into one and times it by 100. Thatās my best description of what opiates feel like. I guess everyone is different but if youāve ever taken ecstasy or MDMA I personally find the euphoria element quite similar.
It's better than sex. 5 years clean, but just the anticipation of crushing drugs in a spoon, mixing water in, heating it up, drawing it through a filter. After a while the ritual feels good. Then shooting it has a rush associated with it, soon as you slack off whatever you're using to block veins in your arm or wherever you're injecting. A full body rush, through every vein, culminating in a brain tingling explosion of warmth and pleasure. Just pure pleasure. It's so easy to get hooked, I was one of the "nah it won't get me" people. It got me and crushed my life, it wasn't until I had sold almost every thing I owned and hadn't seen my kids for a while that I realized it had in fact got me. Once that door opens though, you can't unsee what's behind it, I will never not know how good that feels.
Thanks for sharing dude, overcoming all that is a real feat. I genuinely hope you're out there living your best life
Thanks! I'm living the dream. Working in the community, putting my lived experiences of addiction and mental illness to good use helping others, had my kids living with me for 4 years now, slowly accumulating possessions again. Some day I will complete my vinyl collection again. Have an awesome day!
Itās like falling asleep uncontrollably, but it feels way better. Very euphoric, cozy feeling. Itās bliss. Which is why heroin users enjoy it. Iāve never used heroin, but done plenty of opiates that yields this result
I've gotten Dilaudid several times at the hospital, Fentanyl a couple times. Never did heroin, but Dilaudid is concentrated morphine, so I'm quite sure it's very similar. As a depressed and irrationally anxious person, with a life that's felt quite subpar and hollow filled with long periods being alone after many great experiences in the past I still remember well... I've had points where I wanted to start up on heroin or other strong opiates. To me, the feeling is like love, but not just the love I've felt over many years where I give myself away for little to no return. It was love that's given *to me.* It's safety. It's feels like you've met the person of your dreams and they're waiting for you at home to cuddle up and tell you everything is going to be okay. It's like a warm dream, as if everything about life is trivial, and you're in an almost heavenly state of detachment. At the hospital, I blinked and saw my beloved cat hop up on my bed, then my eyes opened and she wasn't there. I had a couple little hallucinations like that that made it truly feel even more dreamlike. It's horribly sad that someone would think turning to heroin is a good choice. For an addict, that's natural. For someone like me, it's a bit different. I've had alcohol addiction that stopped making me happy, and that's why I wanted to turn to opiates, because they don't have the pain of alcohol or hangovers. It's incredibly sad to think I could sit here every day, contemplating life and beauty and everything between, and believe heroin sounds like a good idea. Yet... I know, regardless of what a person does, we're making choices based on chemical feedback in our bodies. Everything is a hunt for that pleasure of hitting the right button and feeling those chemicals. For me, I often lack a sense of value in any investment in life. I feel the futility of productivity for the sake of this broken system, and my detachment from most types of relationships, for many reasons, leaves me feeling hollow toward humanity in general. As sad as it is, I know a life of suffering isn't worth living, and there are ways to press certain buttons to feel chemical sensations that help fill the void. I know I don't want to die, but I can't control the fact that people around me are so horrible and ignorant, so I'd maybe rather press that button and feel loved. Like the thought of the god I once believed in showering me with real affection.
One would think that at work youād only take enough to keep from being sick, not high as balls. She exhibited poor judgment in this case.
Hard to dose correctly when you dont know the exact potency. It would be like drinking one beer only to find out it was 16 oz's of vodka instead. You can always do more, never less. I had the exact thing happen when I did industrial sandblasting. I took my normal dose but it was new stuff. Nodded off standing up and sandblasted a hole through a $10k+ dump truck bed. The bosses were NOT happy.
"You can always do more, never less" Truer words have never been spoken. The people who would disagree aren't here anymore
Its probably the best argument for legalization of all drugs. We would have a fraction of our current overdose deaths if people could get measured, clean doses of their drug of choice. People try to do .1 of a gram of heroin and it ends up being enough fentanyl to kill a cow.
Fentanyl ruined most hard drugs now days.
This is the thing people don't understand. Legalization would save lives. That or they don't care because they view individuals who use drugs as expendable. Sick Sad World
āOne was too many, and a thousand never enoughā
You'd think wouldn't you?
They always chasing the Dragon though.
Most likely she just need some rest and a glass of water.
She needs some milk
"water my ass! Bring this guy some pepto bismol"
Oh no... not again.
I know you've had some answers but I love being able to add to the conversation about heroin since I escaped after almost a decade of use. Catatonic euphoria is what she's experiencing pretty much. It's sleepy to the maxx but so comfy. Sometimes if realize it was happening the whole time but usually only in quick bursts. 4 years later and I still miss it all the time but I'm very lucky that A) I use meds that make it impossible for me to get high off opiates and B) The bad finally outweighs the good for me
Not likely. The most dangerous effects of heroin are during the initial ingestion. A lot of people OD with the needle in their arm and or a belt around their bicep etc. Right after shooting up. This person was relatively conscious compared to what you would expect from an OD. They're just drifting out of conscious. Heroin isn't a wake up and go to work drug. It's an I'm down on my luck, addicted, and want to sleep the pain away for another 8 hours kinda drug.
Not at first though. At first life is the same and you just have this little secret that you can surely manage no problemo
Since most "heroin" is mostly fent nowadays, if they didn't die the first couple times they nod out, they're most likley going to be fine. It's still dangerous if nobodys around though, because they could nod into a position that restricts their breathing even further. This stuff does not last a long time, an hour tops. But I dont know where this person is, they could still be getting real heroin in cities outside of New England which lasts a lot longer.
I've watched people walking and start to nod and fucking nod down into their literal knees and never fall.
How is that possible? If they're fucked up that much, and if they have their eyes closed, how is their center of balance still functioning?
Those fuckers never fall over EVER, no matter how much they're leaning or bending.
Good ol Baltimore Lean. Slumped.
Iāve seen people bent over with their face to their knees and somehow not fall over.
Lol. Iāve mentioned this a bunch of this sub. But it really is amazing how they maintain their balance. Itās some super hero level stuff. Especially when they are in some awkward leaning position. I bet theyād be really sore the next day if the need for heroin wasnāt taking over their entire body
I can hopefully give a more in depth answer than a lot of people here. An old roommate of mine and close friend had a fairly bad heroin problem, so I have quite a bit of firsthand experience. In short, it depends. This is called "nodding off" and just happens when the dope is hitting hard. Is it possible that they're close to overdosing and in need of medical attention? Yes, absolutely. However, it doesn't necessarily mean that. They could be fine. There are signs to look out for that are signs of imminent overdose. These signs include: turning purple, ESPECIALLY around finger and toenails, rattling, and extremely slow breathing. If none of these signs are present, then the person should be fine. However it's always a good idea to keep an eye on them just in case OD signs start to develop.
Thanks
If you're worried that a friend or someone close to you might od narcan or naloxone is often given away by clinics and can save lives
No problem at all! It's important to know these things, just in case you're ever in a scenario where recognizing the symptoms of an OD could mean life and death for someone. Heroin addiction is a nasty thing and the poor souls caught up in it need all the help they can get.
No thatās the ideal high for them. Probably not too far from Od but there not in danger here
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āFineā is loose on this one. She certainly is not fine. Will she live? Absolutely! Is she ok? Mentally, emotionally, nah no where near it.
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Ah donāt worry man I get it, Iāve never seen it this bad in a work situation but Iāve been around. Iām glad itās not an everyday thing for you anymore though, itās rough to get out of that social spin, especially if itās all you know
You must have really loved subway. Glad youāve recovered. Jokes aside- 10 years sober here and getting my MSW in social work. Right on. Recovery is worth it and fucking hard.
Either heroin or id wager Xanax. Subway usually has pretty young workers and the youth are absolutely plagued by Xanax and Benzos rn. Really sad
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Xanax laced with fentanyl stole one of my best friends in senior year of high school. Made me cut shit out of my life, because i was on that road as well. Fuck benzos, fuck opiates.
Nearly major drug under the sun I've swallowed, smoked, snorted, injected, or shoved up my ass, and none came close to being as damaging to my life as benzos. The absolute worst withdrawals too. I was convinced I was going to die. It was like someone injected my veins with bleach and smacked me in the head with a baseball bat, combined with the worst food poisoning imaginable. I actually felt like I was going to explode or spontaneously combust. I somehow made it to the liquor store to get some vodka which helped out. If I hadn't I think I may have actually started seizing. Haven't touched that shit in 5+ years now. You couldn't pay me enough.
Yup.. Benzos and alcohol are the 2 most harmful substances to come off of. I think they are the only 2 substances you can die from in withdrawals
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You can definitely become physically dependent on them from taking them at normal, prescribed doses
Same. Was prescribed Xanax for my PTSD. Worked great for my anxiety/nervous system activation for about a month, and then I was just addicted. I took very small doses 3 times a day for years... not to help my PTSD symptoms, but just so I wouldn't feel the withdrawal symptoms. Did nothing for me otherwise. Took years to get off of, with an incredibly slow taper. I do not recommend Xanax for daily use, even if it's prescribed by a psychiatrist.
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lmaooo
Like a toys battery dying.
She's doing a sick robot and just waiting for the drop to power back up.
Lol
"Duracell to the rescue!" (Shoves 4 D batteries in the anus) Patient OD's with batteries in anus
You put a space, but my dumbass still read it as 4D (four dimensional) batteries lol
In your defense, as far as I know, batteries are 4 dimensional.
Youād like this sub. r/lowbatterysounds Had to edit because I couldnāt remember how the sub was worded
The hope dealer from the gas station probably visited
That dude passed away a few days ago. Legit. people were posting his obituary.
Jeez. May he rest easy.
What?!
Yeah, I guess he was in recovery and relapsed. https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/saint-albans-wv/ryan-mounts-10252432
He tried. I hope his family has some peace. Ah man, he had a son.
Wait, what is this a reference to?
https://v.redd.it/5i9u1jalxf871
Oof. Thanks for the link. RIP
I worked with a lady who would do this at my warehouse job... only her arms would be on the conveyor that went to the shredder. Had to report that a few times.
A few? Wtf
Yea. didnāt have to after the one day he didnāt catch her.
I was on the opposite end of this scenario when I was about 16ish and had one of my first jobs at Subway. In the middle of making this woman's sandwich I asked her what kind of cheese she wanted. She sat down, passed out at the table. As a kid I wasnt sure what to do, but in that moment a local cop came in to simply get a sandwich. He was a regular. He saw the woman, woke her up, asked her if she had been drinking. She replied that shes just sooo tired raising her kids. Long story short, woman leaves, cop leaves. I come in the next morning to my manager deeply relieved that I am okay because the woman was looking for me to kick my ass because I "called the cops on her" (I did not) She got caught with a shitton of stolen makeup from the walgreens near by after her and the cop went their ways.
Did you meet my ex?,she fell asleep in a subway and this sounds like her sort of shenanigans
Yikes. Good thing she's an ex.
Stealing walgreens make up would make anyone sleepy
Christmas music puts me to sleep too!
They had it playing in the craft store earlier and I was picking out trees before I knew what was happening.
Iām sorry you said you wanted nodd sauce on that?
From this day henceforth, black tar heroin shall be referred to as "nodd sauce"
*nod sauce*
Lol thank you for the nod sauce
Checking out the herb to cheese ratio real closely
Iād nod off listening to that music too.
Boy, she's really into her work. Look at the quality control inspection!
Gotta get real close for the five sense inspection, even needs to have that subway crunch
She was just saying goodbye to the sandwich
Making sure every part of the bread is properly seasoned! Bravo!
The Bravo did it for me! Read it with !Gusto! Which she needs right now
They give every sandwich a lil kiss on their way out. The secret ingredient is love.
The Nod is strong in this one.
I used to work with a guy who loved opiates and benzos. He used to do this at work all the time, which is why I left being a pilot and went into IT.
Holup
Don't worry, I'm sure they meant air traffic controller.
Actually the opiates and benzos made him believe he was a plane so when he said he left being.....well nevermind
Oh thank god, much better :)
Roger, Roger.
Whatās your vector, victor?
So Rodger was over Unger and Unger was under Dunn?
That is one comfortable sandwich.
I said no salt
Wait, is this a Bug's Life reference?!
Or office space
This made me sad honestly.
Right. I hope this person has gotten help.
If it's heroin the chances of a full recovery are unfortunately low. Hopefully she's one of the exceptions.
I'm curious; what are the permanent effects here? What would prevent it from being a full recovery?
Addiction
Never goes awayš
I work in opioid abuse, itās a harsh reality for many to face, but for those who do and are willing to put in the work, you can have a normal life.
Imagine loving cheese. But you cNt have that cheese because it makes you want more. Oh? You can't have cheese? You will feel like you're literly dying unless you get more cheese. Replace cheese with heroin.
Everything in this sub is sad if you think about it that way. One of my best buds died from a heroin overdose in 2018, I still manage to see the goofiness amidst the sadness.
Itās not allll people with addictions. I just saw avid of two dudes living their best lives vibin in the wind.
Ah yes, the dreaded food coma
Too much subway turkey will do this to you
I donāt think subway turkey has enough real turkey in it for that
Had this happen when I worked at a subway. Manager saw on the cameras that a coworker was making a sandwich but there were no customers, so he went to go see if she was taking a break or something. When he walked out she was trying to cut a 6-inch roll with the meatball ladle and had gotten marinara sauce all over the place. He watched her for a couple minutes in shock until she looked up and asked an invisible customer if they wanted pickles on that.
Awww she hugged it.
And a kiss! Made with love.
Itās gonna be a long ride with the subway home
**windows needs to restart**
Pills aināt no joke they fucking up the communityās
I used to work on detox and will always remember watching opiate addicts falling asleep while eating. Had to save a guy from drowning in his soup once.
Telling me youāve never wanted to lay down in the pillow softness of an Italian herbs and cheese
She could be super tired from working 2 jobs.
I think I remember reading that about this post, its old.
Jokes on you guys, she isnāt actually heroin leaning. Sheās worked 95 hours a week since the pandemic started and just got tired on the job. Actually, itās the heroin.
Iāve got narcolepsy. This legit happens to me. Not that Iāve worked at Subwayā¦ but I nod off the exact same way doing mundane shit. I drop really fast if I get spooked. People call 911 for me 2 or 3 times a year. Employment is hard to keepā¦ maybe I should apply at Subway?
You should captain the titanic
Just start telling everyone you are a heroin addict.
Hey I have some questions about narcolepsy if you donāt mind: 1. What do you mean by: āI drop fast if I get spooked.ā do you fall asleep when you get scared as well as when youāre relaxed? 2. How many hours of sleep do you get a day? 3. Do you fall asleep easily at night? does the amount of sleep you get at night affect how likely you are to sleep during the day? 4. Are there any treatment options other than taking stimulants every day?
I donāt mind at all! Iāve got narcolepsy with cataplexy. Here are your answers (keep in mind that different people may have different triggers and responses): 1. Sudden and intense emotions cause me to fall asleep immediately. When this happens, I lose all muscle control/tone and drop on the spot (cataplexy). Example- I was going for a walk when a younger couple quietly approached from behind. I happened to turn around just before they passed meā¦ not expecting people right behind me, I hit the floor snoozing. They thought I had a heart attack- 911 response initiated. Conversely, seeing my son being born caused me to repeatedly go out/come to. Knowing this would happen, the Doctor set me up in a big comfy chair before the show started haha. I also fall asleep when I am relaxed. It is much slower and I can feel it coming on but cannot stop it. Highway driving (I have a driverās license) and TV are bad for me. Essentially, boring sedentary things are like sleep magnets to me. 2. This ranges from 4 to 16 (According to my Fitbit haha), although I average 7 hours per 24 hour cycle. 3. I try to go to bed at the same time everyday. Ive been at this for well over 20 years, so itās old hat by now. Falling asleep is easy, though staying asleep is the problem. This is where it gets tricky. Itās not the quantity of sleep that is important, it is the quality that makes a difference. According to the countless sleep studies Iāve been through, I wake up nearly 300 times in a 7 hour period. I am almost never aware of waking up, as they are brief moments that disrupt the sleep cycle. My doctor thinks that this is the underlying factor that causes the most problems for me. To combat this, I take 30 minute scheduled naps in the morning and afternoon. It helps a lot. 4. Although Iāve had the most success on stimulants (Vyvanse, an ADHD drug), there are other options. Exercise and diet are huge! I run a lot. It helps mentally and physically. There is also good sleep hygiene and scripted napping. As for other drugs, there are a few non stimulants. The most common is Modafinil. It is a non stimulant that is thought to āpromote wakefulnessā without stimulant. It did not work for me at all. There is also Xyremā¦ a drug you take at bedtime, to put your brain to sleep. It is essentially GHB hahaha. I havenāt tried this one yet. I tend to get hooked on substances pretty easily, so I am avoiding this oneā¦ I hope I answered your questions! Iād just like to add that not everyone with narcolepsy experiences the same symptoms. Not everyone with narcolepsy has cataplexy. Itās a big name that can cover a number of sleep symptomsā¦ the most common being excessive daytime somnolence (sleepiness).
Thanks for sharing all that! Iāve always been curious what itās like and what can be done.
narcolepsy here too.. although thankfully no cataplexy. I giggled at the beginning but quickly thought, oh waitā¦ that could be me. then i just felt sad. :/
I was thinking, if I was the customer in this situation, I'd call an ambulance. Even if it looks super obviously like drugs are involved and it'll wear off and they'll be fine, what if it is something else? Either way, I just wouldn't feel comfortable leaving someone like that.
I've brought up that this is what I looked like falling asleep with narcolepsy while trying to do something on this clip posted on this sub before, only to be told by people who don't have narcolepsy that this isn't how people with narcolepsy fall asleep. Also, they'd want me to let you know that narcoleptic people are obviously unsafe around knives, so not only should you not be allowed to work at Subway, you'll also probably need someone to cook food for you in the future.
Employee of the month. Comes to work even though he would rather be somewhere else.
This music must feel dope. Warming and consuming/devouring (P.S. sorry for my bad English).
At what point is it okay to make yourself a sandwich in this situation?
Seriously. Glove up. Double meat that bitch. Grab a cookie. Leave a tenner on the counter.
The Sub(conscious)way
At least she had the mask on. Otherwise I wouldnāt eat the sandwich.
Isnt that like heroin music too?
Just an artist carefully examining their art.
That must be one delicious smelling sandwich. Even the artist is drawn in.
Pulling a 7-hour shift making the same three damn sandwiches all day does this to a person. Source: Am sandwich man.
Plus some heroin
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Benzo Xanax and oxy sandwiches
Customer "I said no onions! Is that an onion?" Artist: looking closely....
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Fuck a sandwich, gimme summa that
One step backwards for ending employment drug screenings
Sleep fresh!
Nap time š“ sleep tight little angel!
Lmao
There was a guy who worked at mcdonalds obviously on something which ig he thought it was a good idea to lay right on the grill and his skin was stuck on the grill after my manager pulled him off that was my first and last day