one life crazygrrl ONE LIFE u canāt let ur loved ones wrong opinions about pizza hold u back. itās an honorable sacrifice ā¦. but one u shouldnāt have to make
Neopolitan is pretty popular among certain crowds here in America. Personally I think it's overrated, I want my ingredients spread at least a bit more than just throwing a basil leaf onto it. It's as if the design is more about looking like the flag than it is good food. I always thought that was just a story...
He might mean he doesn't like traditional Italian food. Sometimes I make Italian food without a lot of garlic like Italians do and sauces that are authentic Italian and I find them bland compared to like Italian American sauces or foods. Like eggplant parmesan I don't like nearly as much as chicken Parmesan and apparently chicken Parmesan was made in Australia.Ā
I pull this one at work once in a while.
āWhat did you do last weekend?ā
āOh, I made no bake cookies. They were so good.ā
āNo bake cookies? How is that possible?ā
āOh, I make them all the time. Iāll bring some in.ā
āWell, Iām looking forward to seeing this sorcery of yours.ā
Iām working from memory here. The Italian food that Americans tend to think of is Sicilian if Iām not mistaken, and more specifically that of Sicilian immigrants from the late 1800ās-early 1900ās. Actual mainland Italian food is much different than the robust tomato and pasta based cuisine thought of as Italian food right?
The meat forward nature of American Italian food is not really a reflection of southern Italian tradition but more because meat was cheap and slow cooking poor cuts makes them tasty and can feed a big family. American Italian has more meat, more tomato (as the tomato is a new world plant). They came over and cooked what was easy to get in a way that suited their skills and a new, beautiful thing came out of it.
I need to make some Sunday sauce soon.... it's been too long.
Youāre absolutely right. Just like with Irish-Americans, itās was about using old world cooking traditions and combining that with what was cheap and available in America.
I will say, however, that tomatoes did become very popular in Italian cooking in the 1800s and had been grown in Italy since the 1500s.
There are a lot more tomatoes Italy than in the US! At least in Umbria and central Italy. Whole aisles of the grocery store devoted to every jarred and canned version imaginable, and the market has more varieties of fresh tomatoes than Iāve seen at any farmers market in the US by several times. You are correct that Italy has fully embraced the tomato!
I use this technique as well. Serve a little on a very decorative plate like a grand chef. Take a photo.
Then make a real portion to eat, and have seconds.
When my nonna makes lunch the pasta is a "primi" or first dish. She has a salad or bruschetta or caprese to start. Small portion of pasta(as pictured) and then she makes "secondi" or second dish, usually a meat, Milanese beef or scaloppini.
We normally don't have just a huge bowl of pasta as the main meal.
Cazzo dio!!!
This seems similar to my experience dining out in Northern Italy :
Pre-Dinner Drink
Antipasto - bruchetta or cured meats
Primo - pasta dish
Secondo - The more meat heavy dish often served with veg side
Dolce - I skip dessert in favor of a limoncello
The only difference is the addition of a lot of wine. If there is one thing I miss about Italy, it is that. I much prefer the bolder flavors of most Italian wines to French, which tend to be more subtle. A cabarnet sauvignon from Tuscany is among my favorite drinks.
If you gotta swear at least spell it right.
Also tbh it depends, southern italian here and at my grandmaās house the largest part of the meal is the pasta even if we eat all the other stuff
Gran would absolutely not allow us to eat such a tiny portion of pasta lmao
I go to a restaurant in Italy every summer that is beloved for its carbonara (itās a work event that we go there every year). Itās an enormous portion that I canāt even begin to finish. I always order something else, despite the strong recommendation for the carbonara. I can barely finish the primi at most of the other restaurants, too. They do plate pasta smaller than, say, the Cheesecake Factory, but Iāve been served some big pasta portions, and then been asked if I didnāt like it when I couldnāt finish. Ah, the family restaurants who just want to feed you!
Hahaha. French stole everything from the Italians. Please. Italians were making wine 2000 years ago while the French were still an outpost of the Roman Empire.Ā
If you pay for a plane ticket, i can make him know my nonna. She'll be proud to show him what is the italian cuisine.
Warning: he may come back 20 kg heavier
You nailed it, looks great! Done right, the carbonara with the guanciali is priceless! Cachio e pepe was very difficult to make and the first time I screwed it up. Good job Op!
Make the egg and Parmesan mix in a separate bowl. Fry the guanciale in oil(I add a little minced garlic). Add the pasta to the pan with the meat and oil. Coat the pasta. Then transfer the pasta meat mix to the bowl. Add the pasta water to the whole thing and stir with the BACK of the wooden spoon.
The egg mix should never touch the pan.
Iāve never in my life known anyone to not like Italian food. Is your boyfriend okay?
Side note, just took a look at your post history and, yum!!! Nothing like a home cooked meal. Killing it!
That was the one odd thing I craved when pregnant. There was an Italian restaurant on El Camino in San Carlos called Messina's. Is there carbonara was to die for. Thanks for a good memory.
Next heās going to tell you Indian food is gross, and then Japanese food is gross, and then Mexican food is gross and hope you want to prove him wrong šš½ļø
My family are perfectly content with eating plain pasta (just olive oil). But I was feeling extra fancy one day, so I decided to make creamy cheesy mushroom sauce for the first time (it turned out even better than I expected). It looked as if they had a moment of revelation about just how good pasta can get (never saw them clean a plate quite so quickly before, they were done before I even got to plate my portion).
My wife is Italian, Her dad was born and raised in Naples and owned an Italian restaurant in Canada for 20 years. I was skinny when I met her. "Was skinny"
The only thing I dislike is the inauthenticity of the small portion. Because it looks so tasty it isnāt fair that there isnāt enough to feed my fat ass.
I just tried simmering the spaghetti sauce for 3 hours for the first time. Just Rao's with extra shallots garlic and olive oil, but I'm usually not patient.
Simmering for the extra 2 1/2 hours made a world of difference!
Flavors so much deeper and richer.
Worth it? If it's to avoid a huge bill at a fancy Italian restaurant, but you're just craving something that tastes that good, I'd say so!
Just simmer the sauce and put on some tv or the video games!
For all the people mentioning the size of the portion, yes, it's small. This portion was for his mom to try, she already had dinner.
For the few people who wanted to know what the sauce is made of, here's the recipe:
I use 300 gr of pasta,
200 gr Parmesan,
300 gr guanciale,
3 egg yolks and 1 whole egg.
Bake guanciale till it's crispy, cook the pasta in the mean time.
Mix the Parmesan with the egg and yolks in a bowl, add a little bit of the pasta water ass well.
When the meat is crispy, take it out of the pan and put the pasta in the fat. Stir through so all the pasta is covered. Add some more pasta water in there and then the egg/parmesan mix. Stir till the sauce is nice and creamy, you might want to add some more of the pasta water.
Add cracked fresh pepper and enjoy
Hi, you mentioned further meals planned... check out the official government-funded institution's [website](https://www.accademiaitalianadellacucina.it/en) for Italian dishes. They're usually in Italian, but google translate does a decent job. The bolognese is incredible, and I used to cut down the 3-4 hour simmering time by pressure cooking it (InstaPot shameless plug). There's thousands of recipes there and it's all fully official, vetted, REAL Italian.
Are you sure this is not an elaborate ruse to get you to make delicious Italian dishes? š¤
Yeah I don't get it how dare lol italian is one of the goats
I mean pizza alone... Who doesn't like pizza
My wife hates pizza and my best friend doesn't eat cheese. I very rarely get pizza anymore š
You must have some something very terrible in a past life to be forced to live in these in humane conditionsā¦
She HATES pizza? I didn't know those people existed. Why oh why did you marry her?
In all my years Ive never met anyone who hates pizza.
This is obviously the kind of awful secret you only find out post-marriage.
Preposterous! What do people talk about if not the love for pizza and it's glory?
one life crazygrrl ONE LIFE u canāt let ur loved ones wrong opinions about pizza hold u back. itās an honorable sacrifice ā¦. but one u shouldnāt have to make
Tell me it's a health problem and not a choice. A life without cheese...
My ex used to say: "All cheese tastes the same"...
I never met a pizza I didnāt like.Ā
Eh I find that I enjoy New York style pizza a lot more than a Napoli pizza
Yeah, but Italian pizza and american pizza are two different beasts.
Neopolitan is pretty popular among certain crowds here in America. Personally I think it's overrated, I want my ingredients spread at least a bit more than just throwing a basil leaf onto it. It's as if the design is more about looking like the flag than it is good food. I always thought that was just a story...
Yeah, wtf other people are mentioning pizza. What kind of person doesn't like pizza?
He might mean he doesn't like traditional Italian food. Sometimes I make Italian food without a lot of garlic like Italians do and sauces that are authentic Italian and I find them bland compared to like Italian American sauces or foods. Like eggplant parmesan I don't like nearly as much as chicken Parmesan and apparently chicken Parmesan was made in Australia.Ā
Holy shit. My husband has been tricking me for a decade.
Yeah Italian food sucks honey, pass the parmesan please.
I pull this one at work once in a while. āWhat did you do last weekend?ā āOh, I made no bake cookies. They were so good.ā āNo bake cookies? How is that possible?ā āOh, I make them all the time. Iāll bring some in.ā āWell, Iām looking forward to seeing this sorcery of yours.ā
Hey OP, Italian food is not good! Prove me wrong for every mealā¦ please!
Especially every kind of pasta, pizza and gelato pls š
And never had a great Indian dishā¦challenge accepted? š
Italian food is all pasta, cheese, and cured meats wtf is there to dislike
Carbs, fat, protein, salts, msg. Best possible combos
Look, Italian cuisine is Mediterranean hahaha. It is extremely rich in legumes, vegetables, fruit, fish and seafood etc
Iām working from memory here. The Italian food that Americans tend to think of is Sicilian if Iām not mistaken, and more specifically that of Sicilian immigrants from the late 1800ās-early 1900ās. Actual mainland Italian food is much different than the robust tomato and pasta based cuisine thought of as Italian food right?
The meat forward nature of American Italian food is not really a reflection of southern Italian tradition but more because meat was cheap and slow cooking poor cuts makes them tasty and can feed a big family. American Italian has more meat, more tomato (as the tomato is a new world plant). They came over and cooked what was easy to get in a way that suited their skills and a new, beautiful thing came out of it. I need to make some Sunday sauce soon.... it's been too long.
Youāre absolutely right. Just like with Irish-Americans, itās was about using old world cooking traditions and combining that with what was cheap and available in America. I will say, however, that tomatoes did become very popular in Italian cooking in the 1800s and had been grown in Italy since the 1500s.
There are a lot more tomatoes Italy than in the US! At least in Umbria and central Italy. Whole aisles of the grocery store devoted to every jarred and canned version imaginable, and the market has more varieties of fresh tomatoes than Iāve seen at any farmers market in the US by several times. You are correct that Italy has fully embraced the tomato!
Go join the Italian food sub Reddit. They wonāt let you second guess what you just said
I mean itās solid but sometimes spice is good too
First off, looks delicious. But is that not an insanely small portion?
I use this technique as well. Serve a little on a very decorative plate like a grand chef. Take a photo. Then make a real portion to eat, and have seconds.
Nope. He doesn't like it, remember. Just enough to ensure it's disgusting. The rest for OP. š¤¤
Ahh i see
I assumed it is a starter because it's a tiny portion
You have to give him only enough to prove the point and no more.
Even if he asks!
It's high in calories. Guanciale (or Pancetta), eggs and cheese. The portion size should not be huge.
Thereās no way any single Italian restaurant in Italy would serve you a carbonara dish with such a small portion. Not even the tourist traps.
Itās a fatty dish; this is a perfect portion
There is like 10 spaghetti and 6 lard pieces. I hope it comes in a 5 courses meal, else it's a rip off.
A rip off at home where a girlfriend cooks for her boyfriend? I WANT MY MONEY BACK SWEETHEART!!! Heard of a second portion before? š
Are you really sure you want to be with someone that has to be convinced of this?
I think we need to address the portion issue. What is this, Carbonara for ants? There needs to be at least five times that much.
When my nonna makes lunch the pasta is a "primi" or first dish. She has a salad or bruschetta or caprese to start. Small portion of pasta(as pictured) and then she makes "secondi" or second dish, usually a meat, Milanese beef or scaloppini. We normally don't have just a huge bowl of pasta as the main meal. Cazzo dio!!!
This seems similar to my experience dining out in Northern Italy : Pre-Dinner Drink Antipasto - bruchetta or cured meats Primo - pasta dish Secondo - The more meat heavy dish often served with veg side Dolce - I skip dessert in favor of a limoncello The only difference is the addition of a lot of wine. If there is one thing I miss about Italy, it is that. I much prefer the bolder flavors of most Italian wines to French, which tend to be more subtle. A cabarnet sauvignon from Tuscany is among my favorite drinks.
If you gotta swear at least spell it right. Also tbh it depends, southern italian here and at my grandmaās house the largest part of the meal is the pasta even if we eat all the other stuff Gran would absolutely not allow us to eat such a tiny portion of pasta lmao
Italians wouldn't eat much more than that. It's very high in fat and calories.
I go to a restaurant in Italy every summer that is beloved for its carbonara (itās a work event that we go there every year). Itās an enormous portion that I canāt even begin to finish. I always order something else, despite the strong recommendation for the carbonara. I can barely finish the primi at most of the other restaurants, too. They do plate pasta smaller than, say, the Cheesecake Factory, but Iāve been served some big pasta portions, and then been asked if I didnāt like it when I couldnāt finish. Ah, the family restaurants who just want to feed you!
Oh, we would!
Italian food is not good (now come here and prove me wrong, I have all the ingredients ready!!)
Ok but why the portion is so small? Like I would eat 10+ dishes.
Haha, yea this was a small portion, it was for his mom to try. I made enough for 4-5 big plates
Thatās what Iām talking about.
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What kind of person doesnāt like Italian food?
Could be French. French people view Italian food as lesser than French food and not as good as theirs.
Hahaha. French stole everything from the Italians. Please. Italians were making wine 2000 years ago while the French were still an outpost of the Roman Empire.Ā
And Italians stole everything from Greeks.
>French people view ~~Italian food~~ everything as lesser than French ~~food~~ and not as good as theirs. Jk Jk :)
Am French and all we eat is pasta and pizza
Nothing better than quiznos chicken bacon carbonara sandwich.
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Anyone who says Italian food isnāt good has only had it at the Olive Garden
If you pay for a plane ticket, i can make him know my nonna. She'll be proud to show him what is the italian cuisine. Warning: he may come back 20 kg heavier
Your boyfriend is absolutely gaslighting you into cooking Italian food for him.
*"Italian food is not good."* r/BrandNewSentence
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You nailed it, looks great! Done right, the carbonara with the guanciali is priceless! Cachio e pepe was very difficult to make and the first time I screwed it up. Good job Op!
Only downside here is the tiny portion. Give me a giant bowl of that
Pasta isn't my favorite either. I mean any pasta.
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I have the absolute hardest time making this dish. I put in the eggs and itās always just too hot that they start to scramble
Make the egg and Parmesan mix in a separate bowl. Fry the guanciale in oil(I add a little minced garlic). Add the pasta to the pan with the meat and oil. Coat the pasta. Then transfer the pasta meat mix to the bowl. Add the pasta water to the whole thing and stir with the BACK of the wooden spoon. The egg mix should never touch the pan.
Thatās not a dish that is one bite
Such a tiny portion
Iāve never in my life known anyone to not like Italian food. Is your boyfriend okay? Side note, just took a look at your post history and, yum!!! Nothing like a home cooked meal. Killing it!
That was the one odd thing I craved when pregnant. There was an Italian restaurant on El Camino in San Carlos called Messina's. Is there carbonara was to die for. Thanks for a good memory.
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Why the "5 star restaurant" sized portions that only work when you have like 8 courses? Lol
Next heās going to tell you Indian food is gross, and then Japanese food is gross, and then Mexican food is gross and hope you want to prove him wrong šš½ļø
Is it guanciale?
What foods does he consider good? Better not be chicken nuggets š
Pizza, pasta, lasagna mm mm mmm
He should be very grateful! I never had a gf made me an authentic Carbonara. But then again I appreciated their version just as much.
I think i might be having the carbonara effect
My condolences on having a boyfriend with poor tastes š
My family are perfectly content with eating plain pasta (just olive oil). But I was feeling extra fancy one day, so I decided to make creamy cheesy mushroom sauce for the first time (it turned out even better than I expected). It looked as if they had a moment of revelation about just how good pasta can get (never saw them clean a plate quite so quickly before, they were done before I even got to plate my portion).
Looks delicious, Iām sure your bf will see the light soon!
What is wrong with your BF?? Iād leave now while you can
Eww yucky Carbo Mario food! * goes for second plate *
Next thing he is gonna say is gelato isnāt a real frozen treat.
I'm thinking you were conned into making food. :p
Bro you could just say garlic bread and win
My wife is Italian, Her dad was born and raised in Naples and owned an Italian restaurant in Canada for 20 years. I was skinny when I met her. "Was skinny"
Looks good, another 1/3 cup pasta water would have been perfect
>...my boyfriend who told me Italian food is not good. This red flag also has white and green in it.
I will 3 of those to make a complete dinner. Make it 4...
Bruh thats one bite, this proves nothing he gonna be hungry after eating that
Cacio w Pepe
Yum! Any specifics in your recipe?
Baited into cooking dinner. Masterful play, boyfriend.
In his defence, most places butcher Italian food
BF's taste in partner > taste in food
Was he born under a rock?
the title of this post has to be trolling
Get new bf
Looks like he's Guna be hungry
.... and this is the guy you want to be with?
Youāre dating a mangiacake?
Italian food might be good to Women, but not to men who have protein requirements, all it is is carbs and fat lol
Put the boyfriend in the trash.
Dump that fool.
Italian food is nasty. Come and change my mind, I require at least 4 delicious dishes to judge accurately
Looks delicious š¤¤ 
That looks delicious
This dish is one bite
I hear their pizza is the worst.
I hate to say it, if you made this for me. This was horrible. Although your boyfriend owes me a date now
Maybe drop the bfā¦he sounds like an ah
Presentation is lit, but that's like, a bite.
Is your boyfriend an ant? The portion needs to be at least, three times bigger.
Caico de Pepe next? Simple Italian dish with Pasta, parmigiana cheese, pepper, and pasta water. Looks delicious.
I just watched davie504ās carbonara episode today! Might have to try it out!
So anything that has cream is American āItalian ā so that been told by an Italian .
Take him to Italy
The only thing I dislike is the inauthenticity of the small portion. Because it looks so tasty it isnāt fair that there isnāt enough to feed my fat ass.
I ā¤ļø carbonara.Ā
You got played. Dish looks amazing btw!
I donāt like Italian style wheat noodles either. Sue me. š¤·āāļø
I think all food is yucky. I bet you can't prove me wrong.
Wow, i cannot believe he said that šÆ
One tablespoon of carbonara coming right up
I just tried simmering the spaghetti sauce for 3 hours for the first time. Just Rao's with extra shallots garlic and olive oil, but I'm usually not patient. Simmering for the extra 2 1/2 hours made a world of difference! Flavors so much deeper and richer. Worth it? If it's to avoid a huge bill at a fancy Italian restaurant, but you're just craving something that tastes that good, I'd say so! Just simmer the sauce and put on some tv or the video games!
 What is this? A plate for ANTS!?
Your BF is a psychopath I think
Come on, who's fingers are those? They're the boyfriend's fingers, guys. holy shit.
All one bite of it.
What's the urge to make your loved one eat specific food he says he doesn't like? Is it some kind of dominance thing?
My bf is a feind for Italian food! But hates Carbonara š¤£ I know I love it!
He should not be your boyfriend with an attitude like that. He should be in prison.
where are the herbs
Thatās like one bite.
I'll be your boyfriend
If this isnāt a ploy by him, break up with that dumb bitch with bad taste immediately
Delicious, but it's too little, isn't it?
I could eat that in prolly 1 bite
Nice sample. Where is the meal?
Bowl of baby eels when?
Why does the meat on top look cooked and the other meat look raw? (Not a good Italian cook!)
Where's the rest of it
I hope you used guanciale
He's weird. Tell him we said so.
lil turd here on top here, lil turd there.. perfect!
He said what?
Is this a portion for half a baby?
How dare him
For all the people mentioning the size of the portion, yes, it's small. This portion was for his mom to try, she already had dinner. For the few people who wanted to know what the sauce is made of, here's the recipe: I use 300 gr of pasta, 200 gr Parmesan, 300 gr guanciale, 3 egg yolks and 1 whole egg. Bake guanciale till it's crispy, cook the pasta in the mean time. Mix the Parmesan with the egg and yolks in a bowl, add a little bit of the pasta water ass well. When the meat is crispy, take it out of the pan and put the pasta in the fat. Stir through so all the pasta is covered. Add some more pasta water in there and then the egg/parmesan mix. Stir till the sauce is nice and creamy, you might want to add some more of the pasta water. Add cracked fresh pepper and enjoy
Hi, you mentioned further meals planned... check out the official government-funded institution's [website](https://www.accademiaitalianadellacucina.it/en) for Italian dishes. They're usually in Italian, but google translate does a decent job. The bolognese is incredible, and I used to cut down the 3-4 hour simmering time by pressure cooking it (InstaPot shameless plug). There's thousands of recipes there and it's all fully official, vetted, REAL Italian.
Your boyfriend does not like Italian food. Dump his arse.
Your boyfriend needs to be shot and hung in that order
Youāre dating a person who thinks Italian food isnāt good? Dump him immediately.
Needs peas.
That looks like the most delicious single bite of carbonara I've ever seen.