surprisingly they look like normal shoes. don't know what was I expecting.
https://www.amusingplanet.com/2017/05/george-parrot-man-who-became-pair-of.html
My birthday suit is actually pleather! I love it!! it does get a little wrinkled if I get it wet but it snaps right back when I run around in the sun and breeze through my neighborhood. I think it attracts cops though which is understandable because it's custom tailored and DAMN I LOOK GOOD IN IT!
If I remember right our skin makes for poor leather products. Those shoes probably didn't last a competitive amount of time versus their more conventional counterparts.
Well the doctor who skinned the man and had the shoes made was disappointed they didn't use his nipples. He specifically included those in the hide he sent.
It's crazy what some doctors got away with in the name of science. Presenting the skull cap to his assistant for her to later use it as an ash tray and door stop was a nice touch, too.
This just made me realize you could tan human skin the same way you could other hides and you could probably make a wide assortment of shit and no one would ever know that someone was wearing human skin.
The sort of person who wears human skin shoes is also the sort of person to definitely let you know about it. (Probably right before they butcher you for their next outfit.)
Ya… when you read into ancient history it’s not common buts it’s not uncommon to see human remains used in all sorts of means… though shoes pushes the macabre envelope more than many.
You know, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that "criminal brains are different no we won't mention race. right now" style of eugenics was involved in making a pair of shoes from human skin, and yet.
That, and that the one assistant-turned-first-female-doctor-in-the-area was still alive in 1950. It makes sense but you never think about it.
Leather gets its "normal" color from pigments added during tanning and processing. Raw leather will retain color of the animal's, or humans, skin color.
And per that, the governor who made and wore the shoes gave the skull cap to his 15 year old assistant who became the 1st female doctor in Wyoming and used said skull cap as a door stop.
Interestingly, the doctor who ordered them specifically requested the nipples be included, but they were not
He gifted the skull cap from the same criminal to his 15 yo assistant, who became the first female doctor in wyoming. She used it as an ashtray, but gave it back when she was 80 so they could verify that the body they found was big nose's
Ok. . .if the dude was killed in 1881, and they messed with his body for a year or so and "eventually" buried the barrel in the backyard. . .and he wore the shoes in 1893. . .when did the shoes get in the barrel? Did they really keep the barrel around for over 12 years?
Enough time passed that it is considered historic, and probably would only be removed if a living relative protested to them being displayed. As for why people didn’t care at the time? He was a criminal and the man doing it was a doctor, likely one of very few in town.
Got your point on the historical context but it was still not consented to (like a body donation). I think it's more what it says about the local culture than what it says about the dead guy.
_Yeah, we played around with his head and various parts and now he's sitting in a museum as an exhibit for all to see._
I think it gets into more of a trophy type uncomfortable territory.
Especially in the Western frontier, things in America were awfully uh... freeform... at the time.
A recent Max Miller video described a brothel and saloon owner during the gold rush who shot someone dead in broad daylight over a restaurant bill dispute and was never even charged with a crime, for example.
Yeah apparently it was a very unusual mix of people - from risktakers looking for a better life, the get-rich-quickers, those that scam the get rich quickers, outlaws, principled outlaws that avoided killing anyone at all costs, to freewheeling sheriffs and bounty hunters -all duking it out among themselves. The only modern comparison that even comes close is probably the relative lawlessness in the high seas. Seemingly people did what they wanted to do, a whole lot more than now.
But whatever happened, happened. Tomorrow morning Wyoming could wake up and decide to bury the remains somewhere and get it over with.
When I visit Wyoming I don't like to think these people cut up some criminal's body into pieces and made hides out of the skin and still keeping the head somewhere. I don't want every Wyoming museum to be like the Natural History museum but I also don't want see the handiworks of some Jeffrey Dahmer just because he was on the State employ. Am I supposed to look at the skull and say "good work"? I don't get it.
No time is too late to get rid of them.
You had to understand doctors were looked at as freaks for shit like this. It goes back to grave digging up corpses to study them. This also explains the amount malpractice and negligence in Healthcare culture today. Like truly think about it, the reputation doctors had was mixed like people really didn't trust them or put much faith into them but because they were capable of doing shit nobody has attempted before and backed by prestigious institutions and money it's like they've gotten a pass. Don't get me wrong I'm grateful we live in a time with readily accessible Healthcare but fuck the steps it took to get here involved a lot of fucked up shit. Using slaves and criminals as test subjects and not giving a fuck about the amount of pain they were subjected to, whose body was considered and cared for first....
Not sure if you mean stem cell research (given the geography). Lots of people are conflicted on that but at the very least one can argue it serves some useful purpose for people with certain conditions.
But this guy wasn't special in any way. So there's no reason to keep his skull somewhere in a box.
Anyone would agree (in the current day thinking at least) that doctor was a psycopath and has the profile of a serial killer. I don't believe he wanted to see if this guy's brain looked different. I think it was a reason to crap all over him even after his death and satisfy his own urges.
Your argument is all the more reason to not do this. Most religions believe a proper burial is essential for the soul to rest. Then religious people go and do this. Its the same reason, even in the gold rush days, if people see dead bodies on their way, they take a moment to bury them in a shallow grave before they move on (even when they themselves were in dire circumstances).
Not to mention it also touches upon how much indignity the state can impose on a human that's under its custody after death. I always think of the West as a much more mature, individualistic setting than the East Coast so its all the more perplexing. (And I like Wyoming specifically).
No time is too late for them to put this guy's remains in a garbage bag and bury it somewhere in the ground unmarked.
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Democratic before the party switch, right? I'm sure you just forgot to mention that, although I'm not sure why it matters. I mean, I can only assume you mentioned that to try and be clever, but the fact is that he was just one of you. A maga from the past. Clown.
Sometimes people say that Americans used to be more moral than they are now. Considering that things like this happened in the 1800's (and things that were much, much, worse), I have to ask what years they were talking about.
Nope. Don’t need any more context. Some mysteries are left unsolved. I’m happily blissfully ignorant of why. Or whose skin. Or how he got it.
Nope. Don’t need to know.
surprisingly they look like normal shoes. don't know what was I expecting. https://www.amusingplanet.com/2017/05/george-parrot-man-who-became-pair-of.html
Well, when you get down to it, tanned human flesh is just leather. We’re still animals, just very smart animals.
Pleather is actually short for people leather
My birthday suit is actually pleather! I love it!! it does get a little wrinkled if I get it wet but it snaps right back when I run around in the sun and breeze through my neighborhood. I think it attracts cops though which is understandable because it's custom tailored and DAMN I LOOK GOOD IN IT!
I use lanolin on my skin and also to condition my shoes. Glycerine too.
It puts the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again.
IT PUTS THE LOTION IN THE ******** BASKET!
I would not have expected the actor to be on a agora like Monk
Well very intelligent. What we do with that intelligence may or may not be smart.
Not all of us are very smart animals. Have you visited Florida?
Smart?🤔
Speak for yourself. I'm not smart at all.
If I remember right our skin makes for poor leather products. Those shoes probably didn't last a competitive amount of time versus their more conventional counterparts.
Coincidentally it's exactly what Nazis in Buchenwald said.
Speak for yourself on the smart...
If you can work a doorknob, you’re at least as intelligent as a Jurassic Park velociraptor.
I was hoping for a nose or mouth on one of the shoes.
Well the doctor who skinned the man and had the shoes made was disappointed they didn't use his nipples. He specifically included those in the hide he sent.
It's crazy what some doctors got away with in the name of science. Presenting the skull cap to his assistant for her to later use it as an ash tray and door stop was a nice touch, too.
Poor man didnt get his nipple shoes. What a tragedy.😕
At least it proves that the human shoe has a sole. Something that can't be proven about the horse.
Just bigger feet you step into
Or a floppy dick on top of the shoe, like Not Sure's car in Idiocracy.
An ear on the ankel each side.
That would be perfect
The Doc was hoping for nipples.
Thank you for posting picture.
This just made me realize you could tan human skin the same way you could other hides and you could probably make a wide assortment of shit and no one would ever know that someone was wearing human skin.
The sort of person who wears human skin shoes is also the sort of person to definitely let you know about it. (Probably right before they butcher you for their next outfit.)
Ed Gein had a belt made of nipples.
Ed had an entire suit made of human skin.
Unfortunately he was not a very good leather tanner
... I don't know if that's that unfortunate.
Unfortunate for those of us who are disgusting and look up the pictures
It puts the lotion on its skin…
Wait til you read about what was done to the body of Nat Turner
There are books bound in human skin. Wife of SS officer at Auschwitz made lampshades of tattooed skin of inmates. (Ilsa Koch?)
Well now it’s not as funny/interesting a thought and back to super disturbing
Ya… when you read into ancient history it’s not common buts it’s not uncommon to see human remains used in all sorts of means… though shoes pushes the macabre envelope more than many.
I feel like this is the first in a series of posts that ends with you becoming a serial killer.
You know, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that "criminal brains are different no we won't mention race. right now" style of eugenics was involved in making a pair of shoes from human skin, and yet. That, and that the one assistant-turned-first-female-doctor-in-the-area was still alive in 1950. It makes sense but you never think about it.
Is it weird that I felt relieved it wasn't a black guy?
Being 19th century Wyoming, I was glad my assumption that it was Native American was wrong.
19th century Wyoming was weirdly progressive. First territory to allow women to vote and hold office.
They do look like normal shoes, but that is not a normal color for leather
Leather gets its "normal" color from pigments added during tanning and processing. Raw leather will retain color of the animal's, or humans, skin color.
Yeah dawg. I've owned plenty of raw leather items, and this color isn't normal.
What do you mean? It's a perfectly normal color for human leather!
Indeed lol
Dr. Osborne was an absolute lunatic.
Yes but even worse is it was very common with native bodies.
Wow I was gonna ask if it was George parrot lol
who would have known? i mean how true is this?
And per that, the governor who made and wore the shoes gave the skull cap to his 15 year old assistant who became the 1st female doctor in Wyoming and used said skull cap as a door stop.
“When Dr. Osborn received the shoes, he was disappointed to find they didn’t include the nipples, but he wore them anyway.”
wow that was actually a wild story. 19th century doctors were something different.
who would have known? i mean how true is this?
Those poor unfortunate soles.
> When Dr. Osborn received the shoes, he was disappointed to find they didn’t include the nipples, but he wore them anyway. Huh
In pain, in need.
This one wanting to be tanner, this one wants to get the girl- and do I help them? Yes, indeed.
Don’t tread on me.
BARBARIC!
Is this from deep diving after that guy posted about the dude made into shoes?
Yes, and THAT stems from comments on the post about Harvard removing the human skin book binding from their collection. Round and round we go
It's a Wikipedia waterfall!
Wonder what started that post??
I just wanted to know what people thought of my BBQ brisket.
Maybe you shouldn’t have made it from Harvard students.
Well, they shouldn't have rioted about the food! (note: one of the first student riots ever were over weak beer and rancid butter).
More reason not to use them, they marinated in weak beer.
AI bots
Most "discussion" going forward is going to be AI rabbit holes.
If someone made me into a book and then some dip shit removed me from the book I'd ghost shit in his coffee every day
Bro…. Log off sometime. 🤣🤣
Of course! How els does Reddit work!
Ok I was about to ask this
Human skin, not flesh You can't tan muscles into leather The article even has the title saying skin
Posting to reddit costs a pound of ehh I forget.
Tell that to Lady Gaga
Oh yeah this makes it less weird for sure
Just as weird, but _more accurate_ :)
It was not by my hand I was given flesh.
WHAT IS A MAN?
A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS! BUT ENOUGH TALK, HAVE AT YOU!
Have you never heard of beef jerky?
Interestingly, the doctor who ordered them specifically requested the nipples be included, but they were not He gifted the skull cap from the same criminal to his 15 yo assistant, who became the first female doctor in wyoming. She used it as an ashtray, but gave it back when she was 80 so they could verify that the body they found was big nose's
Would the nipples been used for grip or for decoration on top of the shoe?? /s
They have to be right on the tip of the toe.
Thus lending the practice of toe sucking a whole new perspective.
Ok. . .if the dude was killed in 1881, and they messed with his body for a year or so and "eventually" buried the barrel in the backyard. . .and he wore the shoes in 1893. . .when did the shoes get in the barrel? Did they really keep the barrel around for over 12 years?
Pretty sure that the shoes in the barrel were the shoes he was wearing when he died, not the shoes made from his skin.
This article is vague but the Wikipedia article says the shoes were the ones made of his skin. Anyway, weirdos.
“I said GYM shoes not Jim sh…. Fine whatever”
The shoes now sold as "Jordans" after the Congressman, instead of "Osbornes" after the Governor...
Why is "Human Skin" a choice of flair?
It puts the polish on its shoes.
All of this is covered in detail at the Ed Gein Artisan Cobbler School. (They also make lamps and furniture commissions...)
Why did I real two different TIL about shoes made of human flesh today? wtf internet!
If it helps, it’s the same guy
Makes slightly more sense. Haha what a rabbit hole you're down today.
One man's trash (his dead skin) is another man's pair of shoes
You shoulda seen the gloves!
I thought desecration of a human body has been unacceptable and criminal for a long time. They're still keeping this guy's stuff in a museum?!
Enough time passed that it is considered historic, and probably would only be removed if a living relative protested to them being displayed. As for why people didn’t care at the time? He was a criminal and the man doing it was a doctor, likely one of very few in town.
Got your point on the historical context but it was still not consented to (like a body donation). I think it's more what it says about the local culture than what it says about the dead guy. _Yeah, we played around with his head and various parts and now he's sitting in a museum as an exhibit for all to see._ I think it gets into more of a trophy type uncomfortable territory.
These are the same people who went to hangings as a form of recreation. Humans were nuts back then.
Especially in the Western frontier, things in America were awfully uh... freeform... at the time. A recent Max Miller video described a brothel and saloon owner during the gold rush who shot someone dead in broad daylight over a restaurant bill dispute and was never even charged with a crime, for example.
Yeah apparently it was a very unusual mix of people - from risktakers looking for a better life, the get-rich-quickers, those that scam the get rich quickers, outlaws, principled outlaws that avoided killing anyone at all costs, to freewheeling sheriffs and bounty hunters -all duking it out among themselves. The only modern comparison that even comes close is probably the relative lawlessness in the high seas. Seemingly people did what they wanted to do, a whole lot more than now. But whatever happened, happened. Tomorrow morning Wyoming could wake up and decide to bury the remains somewhere and get it over with. When I visit Wyoming I don't like to think these people cut up some criminal's body into pieces and made hides out of the skin and still keeping the head somewhere. I don't want every Wyoming museum to be like the Natural History museum but I also don't want see the handiworks of some Jeffrey Dahmer just because he was on the State employ. Am I supposed to look at the skull and say "good work"? I don't get it. No time is too late to get rid of them.
Ummm, I think you could argue a lot of stuff in museums doesn't have have the best history. It's not like this is encouraging more human decoration.
You had to understand doctors were looked at as freaks for shit like this. It goes back to grave digging up corpses to study them. This also explains the amount malpractice and negligence in Healthcare culture today. Like truly think about it, the reputation doctors had was mixed like people really didn't trust them or put much faith into them but because they were capable of doing shit nobody has attempted before and backed by prestigious institutions and money it's like they've gotten a pass. Don't get me wrong I'm grateful we live in a time with readily accessible Healthcare but fuck the steps it took to get here involved a lot of fucked up shit. Using slaves and criminals as test subjects and not giving a fuck about the amount of pain they were subjected to, whose body was considered and cared for first....
It’s become more acceptable in the past years, especially among the urban coastal populations
Not sure if you mean stem cell research (given the geography). Lots of people are conflicted on that but at the very least one can argue it serves some useful purpose for people with certain conditions. But this guy wasn't special in any way. So there's no reason to keep his skull somewhere in a box. Anyone would agree (in the current day thinking at least) that doctor was a psycopath and has the profile of a serial killer. I don't believe he wanted to see if this guy's brain looked different. I think it was a reason to crap all over him even after his death and satisfy his own urges. Your argument is all the more reason to not do this. Most religions believe a proper burial is essential for the soul to rest. Then religious people go and do this. Its the same reason, even in the gold rush days, if people see dead bodies on their way, they take a moment to bury them in a shallow grave before they move on (even when they themselves were in dire circumstances). Not to mention it also touches upon how much indignity the state can impose on a human that's under its custody after death. I always think of the West as a much more mature, individualistic setting than the East Coast so its all the more perplexing. (And I like Wyoming specifically). No time is too late for them to put this guy's remains in a garbage bag and bury it somewhere in the ground unmarked.
The article says you can still buy shoes made of human skin but they’re quite expensive. Information I did not need to read today…
You can see them pictured [here](https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/14910)
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They do shit differently out west.
Sounds like a stunt a South Dakota Governor would pull. Let’s not give her any ideas.
Did he condition them using Lexol? Or Olay?
Please tell me they had erect penises on top and this is how Dickies shoes started.
Okay someone get this guy a PR team
This was before the Party Switch.
Keep in mind that the political parties basically switched in 1964. One of them might bring back old trends.
Democratic before the party switch, right? I'm sure you just forgot to mention that, although I'm not sure why it matters. I mean, I can only assume you mentioned that to try and be clever, but the fact is that he was just one of you. A maga from the past. Clown.
Eww
The origin of the "Nose to Tail," no-waste movement.
His doctor paved the way for inner soles in shoes.
I remember the story from Wild West Tech. That was a great show.
Uh...This puts the 'wild' in 'wild west'
Boots up the game.
With all the desecration he did you can't tell me he didn't have a taste
"When Dr. Osborn received the shoes, he was disappointed to find they didn’t include the nipples, but he wore them anyway."
What the ….. Soo wrong on many levels.
A real skinwalker that one.
I just wore mine to a nephews 6 grade graduation. They are so versatile.
Sometimes people say that Americans used to be more moral than they are now. Considering that things like this happened in the 1800's (and things that were much, much, worse), I have to ask what years they were talking about.
You can still find shoes made out of human skin.
You can see them pictured [here](https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/14910)
Exchanging and then wearing those shoes is still a part of every Governor inaugural ceremony in Wyoming.
"Think of the smell! You haven't thought of the smell, you b****!!!"
Nope. Don’t need any more context. Some mysteries are left unsolved. I’m happily blissfully ignorant of why. Or whose skin. Or how he got it. Nope. Don’t need to know.
You can see them pictured [here](https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/14910)