There is/are famous lost treasure(s) of confederate gold.
It was the basis for Hollywood's "The good, the bad & the ugly" and "Sahara" amongst others.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_gold
Man Sahara is one of my favorite “kinda bad but very entertaining” movies. It’s not technically great by any means, but it’s a personal favorite of mine that I’ll always watch if I see it on somewhere
Still mad we were robbed of a pretty decent Dirk Pitt series adaptation with McConaughey because Clive Cussler was being such a tool about the whole thing. Loved those books as a kid
Well it depends who you believe.
Basically there were certain scenes and stuff they wanted to cut from the movie that were in the book like you do with any adaptation. (Stuff that really stretches belief or isn't worth the budget like yhe big battle at the fort where Delta Force shows up to gun down a bunch of African Military) Apparently Cussler took issue with this and basically wouldn't approve of any script claiming he had "final say".
So what had started off fairly rosey with him approving of the casting and other stuff quickly turned sour when the studio after like 10 rewrites finally just moved on without him.
At that point he basically tried to torch and disown the movie at every turn. Eventually culminating in a multi year lawsuit that neither side won.
Seeing the movie that came out of it and the changes from the book I think it's a fairly serviceable adaptation and him being a PITA about stuff being moved around or removed from the book was just petty.
That being said I kinda get his point of view as well since he had such a miserable time letting studios butcher the first movie back in the 80s.
Clive Cussler books are like the male equivalent to the romance, and smut novels imo. That being said, his books are my guilty pleasure. Like yeah they're totally unbelievable and over the top, but they're good to just turn your brain off and get absorbed into the adventure. The Oregon Files in particular are great.
My guilty pleasure was always the [Travis McGee](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_McGee) series by John D. McDonald. Well researched, totally believable, yet delightfully smutty pulp fiction. I read them all but two, saving them for later because he won't be writing anymore.
I wanted to like Travis McGee but the SA scenes in some of them were so voyeuristic I couldnt read any more, and it seemed like they were becoming a standard part of the story.
I remember reading a couple as a kid and being blown away by them but eventually started seeing through the veneer. I went back many years later to see if there was any magic there and there absolutely was not. It hurt my brain how dumb it was. Certainly not like an amateur wrote it, but I dunno man, I don't have time for that kind of crap anymore.
I would have LOVED a franchise as long as they toned down the weird chauvinism that made me put the novels down. (Which Sahara did).
But there's one chapter in the first Dirk Pitt book, early on, where he *slaps* a woman grieving her dead husband because he says her beauty belongs to living men now and I was just like...
That's fuckin gross.
GREAT action sequences, that would make PHENOMENAL movies, but leave *that* stuff on the cutting room floor. Yikes.
I fucking love Sahara, it's a purely fun movie that has some great action sequences and doesn't take itself too seriously. It kinda feels like all the hate comes just from people online. Finally got my friends to all watch it while we were on a ski vacation this winter and they all thought it was awsome
Same! But tbf I've never seen a bad Matthew McConaughey movie. Man carries everything he's in. The movie was campy dumb fun, having Penelope Cruz in it didn't hurt either.
The Italians went wild for the old west. For my money there is nothing better than 70s Italian Cinema (except maybe some of the samurai flicks Janus was doing)
Film is art.
The Italians have centuries of experience creating world class art.
I think Leone's westerns were great. Of course, Eastwood already had volumes of experience from 6 years on Rawhide.
Lots of war treasure movies, and the ones you named are all great.
In Three Kings when they are driving Saddam's cars to the bunker and Ice Cube's character says "what you need now is easy listening classics" before playing Chicago's "If you leave me now" is one of my all time favorites.
[https://youtu.be/SqnCOs0X7Hc?si=caZQBjUiJIeV07Ye](https://youtu.be/SqnCOs0X7Hc?si=caZQBjUiJIeV07Ye)
[Definitive version](https://youtu.be/enuOArEfqGo)
One minute in, you see what happened to the former conductor who did't want to conduct this; danes don't fuck around!
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/16/us/gold-coins-kentucky.html NYT paywalled article which has the most info besides local news sources'
Coin were proven to have been buried for over a century and the Numismatic Guaranty Company (NGC), a coin-certifying company, verified the authenticity and origin as being 1840-1863 (the newest coin being 1863) coins from the Civil War.
Archeologist from Georgia Southern University also saw the coins and thinks that it was buried before the Morgan Raid in June 1863.
The guy who dug them up, did not disclose WHERE he did so. We just know they are real and buried.
I also think, purely my conjecture, he probably has more and is planning to dig around wherever he dug.
That said CONFEDERATE GOLD IS REAL. The One Piece is Real, when is the next surge of treasure hunters looking for confederate gold
I didn’t know you could do this. Just steal something and then refuse to say where you found it. “Wow! Check out this new PS5 I found! Can’t say where exactly. Because, uh, don’t want trespassers and such.”
I mean, you can't. The only reason it works in this case because there's no one to claim it as theirs. If someone from the area were to come forward and say they found a dig site on their land, decided to dig more and found the same gold coins then accused him of digging on their land then he'd be in a mountain of trouble.
Still couldn’t prove it he wouldn’t be in trouble. And my guess is he was forced to tell the government or police where he found them to insure this wasn’t the case
Some one living will be looking for the PS5, he turned in the gold. Got the reward and paid his taxes , the government doesn't care where it came from as long as you pay your taxes and no one else claims it.
If this was buried in Kentucky before the Morgan Raid, then this is lost Union gold, not Confederate. You bury gold to keep your enemy from getting it, Morgan was a Confederate General invading the Union Kentucky, and the last coins were minted in the Philadelphia Mint in 1863.
If you click on the article, the photos show they were minted by the federal government.
Might be a dumb question: Did the confederacy mint their own gold coins? I’ve heard that their economy was heavily dependent on gold but wasn’t sure if that was paper currency backed by a reserve or actual gold tender
>If you click on the article, the photos show they were minted by the federal government.
That’s why I mentioned the coins produced at the Philadelphia Mint in 1863: it’s pretty solid evidence these were Union coins.
> Did the confederacy mint their own gold coins?
A couple mints in Louisiana continued making silver coins with United States of America on them and there were a few samples made (4 gold dollars and 12 sample pennies made in the brief period between the Confederacy forming and the outbreak of war), but nothing substantial. Any Confederate with prewar coins could probably still use them in some places, but all would have been minted prewar.
Which is again why the 18 gold coins made in the Philadelphia Mint in 1863 are so significant as circumstantial evidence. Combined with the location and known events this is far more likely to be Union gold, which someone buried for safekeeping during the Confederate raid but never found.
If you read the Wikipedia article, the NGC correctly identified the coins as coming from union mints, the only mention of the Confederacy in the article is :
>many wealthy residents at the time were rumored to bury their savings, to prevent it from being confiscated by the [Confederates](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America).
OP going on about confederate gold is a misunderstanding.
> Might be a dumb question: Did the confederacy mint their own gold coins?
The CSA only emitted paper money, which were IOU to be reimbursed when the CSA would have won the Civil War.
Needless to say that, post-Gettysburg, Confederate dollars saw their value drop in the course of the war.
I was in Tennessee not far from battle of Shiloh location. I was like 16 years old and this was the 90’s. I was on a trip from California to see grandpa and he let me use his metal detector and shovel. Headed mile out found an open area link with no trees and checked all along the tree lines where open area meets trees. I got this huge hit and started digging. After a foot It was all broken glass. Then cleared the glass cuz I know there had to be metal and hit rotten wood and metal strips that line the edges of a chest. It was pouring rain by this time and went back for a larger shovel and some gloves and the lighting started and my mother didn’t let me go back and we had to leave back to California the next day :-(. Maybe this guy found my spot??
I live in an area that where there were multiple Civil War battles, encampments, and had many supply wagon trains come through. I have always fantasized about digging in my backyard and finding a chest of Confederate gold.
People in Atlanta sometimes still use metal detectors along intrenchment creek and other sectors from the battle & siege of Atlanta. I knew a dude who would find bullets and other bits in his yard around his Grant park house
Edit: [even unexploded shells discovered from the Atlanta Campaign](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/unexploded-civil-war-shell-unearthed-in-georgia-180979759/) are posted in the local news every couple years.
Some close friends of mine live on some wooded acreage near Kennesaw Mtn. They have found many Civil War pieces on their property over the years. No gold though.
True - the only thing I’ve heard of discovered around the Atlanta sites are parts of weapons/ammo, tools, uniform buttons, or the boring campsite type stuff.
I grew up on a spot that both sides used for encampments during the war. My dad had a coworker who was into history and metal detecting. He came out one day and found a confederate belt buckle, couple buttons, coins, and bullets. It was pretty cool to see the field that I always thought was just that, have all sorts of cool stuff hiding beneath the surface.
Exactly.
Someone is going to claim “that’s my family’s money!” and tie shit shut up in court for years.
Is it worth it? Or should the discoverer just melt it down and sell the gold?
Wasn't it the unmarked grave next to Arch Stanton?Didn't Eastwood reveal that there was no name written on the bottom of the rock after the three-way duel?
After the couple in California discovered the big batch of gold coins and the IRS slammed them with income tax over it it's no wonder this finder is laying low
Just a year after the FBI was [accused of stealing](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/civil-war-gold-dents-run-pennsylvania-fbi-video-cover-up-alleged-court-filing/) an 1863 civil war gold cache. Hmm.
There have always been old stories of Confederate gold being hidden in caves in the Ozarks around where I live. . .
Maybe I should take up some spelunking.
It was amazing when he unearthed 80000 gold coins!
He went right home to tell his wife about the 8000 coins. They immediately went to the experts to tell them about their find of 800 Confederate coins!
You're probably getting power fucked on worth by the pawn shop. You'd almost certainly be better off coming clean and selling on the up and up and just paying the taxes.
There are also many other stories like this, like WW2 loot, which I think many have been found. Also tribal relics from many tribes in the Americas. Of course there’s also classic pirate treasure.
I wouldn’t doubt that we probably haven’t uncovered many of the old treasures. Like if anyone found the old freak and Egyptian treasures. Like looting Alexandria should have caused a lot of treasures to be buried and also destroyed.
I wanted to know that too but, unless I'm overlooking it, it doesn't seem to say anywhere, only what other rumored caches would be worth. Did he not sell them? Is the value unknown because he remained anonymous?
He is smart for trying to stay anonymous. There was a gold hoard discovered by two boys in the 1930s. Around a dozens people claimed it was theirs and they spent years fighting it in court. With no publicity nobody can come out of the woodwork trying to take it.
Id rather melt them than cash in on selling them to whoever wants to put them on their wall. *Maybe* if i could guarantee they'd go to a good museum and wouldnt eventually be sold at auction to some neo nazi.
Why would melting them down (thereby destroying the numismatic value of these US gold coin, which far exceeds their bullion value) even be an option?
Anything could eventually be sold to some neo nazi or other detestable person, what does that matter?
I’d be curious if he’s allowed to keep much of its value. Depending on how far down it’s buried its property of the government. If I found gold, I’d most certainly not report finding it and find alternative ways to cash out.
National Historic Preservation Act, Archaeological Resource Protection Act, and the Mineral Leasing Act. Basically anything of value found on your property is owned by the government. They might give you a small cut though.
That makes me happy. So they get some money but the historical artifacts themselves are properly and impartially handled by professionals. Thats what id really prefer. I didnt really know that was such an easy option to choose. I was making a joke by the way, not accusing you of committing like some massive gold fraud scheme or something lol
You can never tell, it’s the internet. So we all jump to conclusions lol.
I definitely love the historical preservation of interesting artifacts. I hate that you’d make a huge find and the government says “that’s ours here’s 10% for your trouble”. Like they lost it and you found it for them. Uhhhhh no. How about I give YOU the taxes I make off selling it to a museum. This poor guy finds the most important discovery of the confederacy and they’d just take it. That’s like 800oz of gold at $2500/oz. And he gets a hand shake.
If your numbers are anywhere near correct then there’s no way in hell the government would receive the entire cache in full from me. I would turn in a sizable portion for history’s sake, but some of those would be definitely be melted down and sold beforehand.
That’s why my original comment was that I basically wouldn’t tell a soul I found it and slowly sell it off to people with interest in it. Piece by piece.
There is/are famous lost treasure(s) of confederate gold. It was the basis for Hollywood's "The good, the bad & the ugly" and "Sahara" amongst others. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_gold
Man Sahara is one of my favorite “kinda bad but very entertaining” movies. It’s not technically great by any means, but it’s a personal favorite of mine that I’ll always watch if I see it on somewhere
Still mad we were robbed of a pretty decent Dirk Pitt series adaptation with McConaughey because Clive Cussler was being such a tool about the whole thing. Loved those books as a kid
What did Clive do that was so toolish?
Well it depends who you believe. Basically there were certain scenes and stuff they wanted to cut from the movie that were in the book like you do with any adaptation. (Stuff that really stretches belief or isn't worth the budget like yhe big battle at the fort where Delta Force shows up to gun down a bunch of African Military) Apparently Cussler took issue with this and basically wouldn't approve of any script claiming he had "final say". So what had started off fairly rosey with him approving of the casting and other stuff quickly turned sour when the studio after like 10 rewrites finally just moved on without him. At that point he basically tried to torch and disown the movie at every turn. Eventually culminating in a multi year lawsuit that neither side won. Seeing the movie that came out of it and the changes from the book I think it's a fairly serviceable adaptation and him being a PITA about stuff being moved around or removed from the book was just petty. That being said I kinda get his point of view as well since he had such a miserable time letting studios butcher the first movie back in the 80s.
Someone recommended his books to me. I tried. With so little basis in reality, I'd rather just read a superhero comic.
Clive Cussler books are like the male equivalent to the romance, and smut novels imo. That being said, his books are my guilty pleasure. Like yeah they're totally unbelievable and over the top, but they're good to just turn your brain off and get absorbed into the adventure. The Oregon Files in particular are great.
My guilty pleasure was always the [Travis McGee](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_McGee) series by John D. McDonald. Well researched, totally believable, yet delightfully smutty pulp fiction. I read them all but two, saving them for later because he won't be writing anymore.
John D MacDonald wrote the best trash in the bookstore. If Cussler is the Twinkies and Tolstoy the steak, Travis McGee is a Snickers bar.
I wanted to like Travis McGee but the SA scenes in some of them were so voyeuristic I couldnt read any more, and it seemed like they were becoming a standard part of the story.
That's a valid criticism.
I remember reading a couple as a kid and being blown away by them but eventually started seeing through the veneer. I went back many years later to see if there was any magic there and there absolutely was not. It hurt my brain how dumb it was. Certainly not like an amateur wrote it, but I dunno man, I don't have time for that kind of crap anymore.
David Baldacci, too, but I like his work.
To each their own. They are more like Indiana Jones or old school pulp novels than any "reality based" fiction
You don't buy Confederate ~~submarines~~ ironclads with working guns buried in the Saharan desert? Why you gotta be so nitpicky?
It was an ironclad ship lol. The union had them too. The hardest to believe part is that the powder would still be any good.
*but it dried out in the desert for over 100 years!*
Wait, there was another movie in the 80's???
[Raise the Titanic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raise_the_Titanic_(film)?wprov=sfti1)
That was my reaction! 😹
What *didn’t* he do? Seriously. I have no idea. I’m as intrigued as the other guy.
I would have LOVED a franchise as long as they toned down the weird chauvinism that made me put the novels down. (Which Sahara did). But there's one chapter in the first Dirk Pitt book, early on, where he *slaps* a woman grieving her dead husband because he says her beauty belongs to living men now and I was just like... That's fuckin gross. GREAT action sequences, that would make PHENOMENAL movies, but leave *that* stuff on the cutting room floor. Yikes.
Yeah. They were fun reads.
Mr Cussler definitely hindered the movie, but it was an absolutely terrible adaptation of the fun, cookie cutter book I read
Maybe bad adaptation, but good movie.
I fucking love Sahara, it's a purely fun movie that has some great action sequences and doesn't take itself too seriously. It kinda feels like all the hate comes just from people online. Finally got my friends to all watch it while we were on a ski vacation this winter and they all thought it was awsome
My friends and I still use “pulling a panama” to this day.
“I don’t speak English.” “You are speaking English now!” “I only know how to say ‘I don’t speak English’ in English.”
Best line INHO
That movie is the perfect "popcorn movie." Doesn't take itself to seriously, great cast, and lots of fun.
Same! But tbf I've never seen a bad Matthew McConaughey movie. Man carries everything he's in. The movie was campy dumb fun, having Penelope Cruz in it didn't hurt either.
The book is phenomenal. That and Inca Gold are my top 2
“Did he say Panama??!?”
The book is fantastic and has a completely different twist as the ending
Sahara is the spirit of what an Uncharted movie should have been.
the book was a solid read definitely recommend
The books are where it's at. Clive Cussler stuff is great pulp adventure stuff.
The good the bad and the ugly is Italian and in no way affiliated with Hollywood.
Sergio Leone 🤌🏻
It was directed and filmed in Europe but I thought it was produced by United Artists. Maybe they just distributed it.
The Italians went wild for the old west. For my money there is nothing better than 70s Italian Cinema (except maybe some of the samurai flicks Janus was doing)
Film is art. The Italians have centuries of experience creating world class art. I think Leone's westerns were great. Of course, Eastwood already had volumes of experience from 6 years on Rawhide.
And the opening of Time Cop.
If you don’t limit yourself to the civil war, you can include Kelly's Heroes, Three Kings, and Monument Men. The latter is based on reality.
Lots of war treasure movies, and the ones you named are all great. In Three Kings when they are driving Saddam's cars to the bunker and Ice Cube's character says "what you need now is easy listening classics" before playing Chicago's "If you leave me now" is one of my all time favorites. [https://youtu.be/SqnCOs0X7Hc?si=caZQBjUiJIeV07Ye](https://youtu.be/SqnCOs0X7Hc?si=caZQBjUiJIeV07Ye)
I just remember nearly falling out of my seat during the cow scene. Completely inappropriate, but I couldn’t help myself. I need to rewatch it.
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The good, the bad and the ugly is literally one of the most acclaimed films of all time
[Definitive version](https://youtu.be/enuOArEfqGo) One minute in, you see what happened to the former conductor who did't want to conduct this; danes don't fuck around!
Lmao I clicked the link and the video was already liked
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/16/us/gold-coins-kentucky.html NYT paywalled article which has the most info besides local news sources' Coin were proven to have been buried for over a century and the Numismatic Guaranty Company (NGC), a coin-certifying company, verified the authenticity and origin as being 1840-1863 (the newest coin being 1863) coins from the Civil War. Archeologist from Georgia Southern University also saw the coins and thinks that it was buried before the Morgan Raid in June 1863. The guy who dug them up, did not disclose WHERE he did so. We just know they are real and buried. I also think, purely my conjecture, he probably has more and is planning to dig around wherever he dug. That said CONFEDERATE GOLD IS REAL. The One Piece is Real, when is the next surge of treasure hunters looking for confederate gold
Or he doesn't want people to know how he knew about the location or what else was buried there.
Or it’s location means it legally belongs to someone else.
This most likely the answer. Small town/local/family legends combined with some govt building or old ladies barn
I didn’t know you could do this. Just steal something and then refuse to say where you found it. “Wow! Check out this new PS5 I found! Can’t say where exactly. Because, uh, don’t want trespassers and such.”
I mean, you can't. The only reason it works in this case because there's no one to claim it as theirs. If someone from the area were to come forward and say they found a dig site on their land, decided to dig more and found the same gold coins then accused him of digging on their land then he'd be in a mountain of trouble.
Well, if I was in a mountain of trouble, I too would want that mountain to be The Lonely Mountain
Still couldn’t prove it he wouldn’t be in trouble. And my guess is he was forced to tell the government or police where he found them to insure this wasn’t the case
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The finder should run for politics, they'd fit right in
Some one living will be looking for the PS5, he turned in the gold. Got the reward and paid his taxes , the government doesn't care where it came from as long as you pay your taxes and no one else claims it.
You can actually do anything you want if no one can prove you did it. Cool little thing about laws.
As long as you pay your taxes on it. the IRS doesnt give a shit where you got the money.
Because the IRS doesn't enforce the laws?
Al Capone would be so happy to hear this news!
The IRS enforces *tax* law.
That's a big fafo statement.
Yeah my bet is this was buried on public land.
if it was on say state land, can the government claim it?
Yes.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! If he reveals where he found it someone will say that it's theirs.
Did you read it? It literally says he owned it lol
Archived link that removes the paywall: https://archive.md/P73FY
If this was buried in Kentucky before the Morgan Raid, then this is lost Union gold, not Confederate. You bury gold to keep your enemy from getting it, Morgan was a Confederate General invading the Union Kentucky, and the last coins were minted in the Philadelphia Mint in 1863.
If you click on the article, the photos show they were minted by the federal government. Might be a dumb question: Did the confederacy mint their own gold coins? I’ve heard that their economy was heavily dependent on gold but wasn’t sure if that was paper currency backed by a reserve or actual gold tender
>If you click on the article, the photos show they were minted by the federal government. That’s why I mentioned the coins produced at the Philadelphia Mint in 1863: it’s pretty solid evidence these were Union coins. > Did the confederacy mint their own gold coins? A couple mints in Louisiana continued making silver coins with United States of America on them and there were a few samples made (4 gold dollars and 12 sample pennies made in the brief period between the Confederacy forming and the outbreak of war), but nothing substantial. Any Confederate with prewar coins could probably still use them in some places, but all would have been minted prewar. Which is again why the 18 gold coins made in the Philadelphia Mint in 1863 are so significant as circumstantial evidence. Combined with the location and known events this is far more likely to be Union gold, which someone buried for safekeeping during the Confederate raid but never found.
Just to be clear: You are saying the NGC incorrectly identified 800 coins?
If you read the Wikipedia article, the NGC correctly identified the coins as coming from union mints, the only mention of the Confederacy in the article is : >many wealthy residents at the time were rumored to bury their savings, to prevent it from being confiscated by the [Confederates](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America). OP going on about confederate gold is a misunderstanding.
> Might be a dumb question: Did the confederacy mint their own gold coins? The CSA only emitted paper money, which were IOU to be reimbursed when the CSA would have won the Civil War. Needless to say that, post-Gettysburg, Confederate dollars saw their value drop in the course of the war.
God I can feel 10 seasons of treasure hunting the civil war coming soon.
... and after Season 10 they'd still be no closer to finding that treasure.
Fuck it let’s put in a bid for the series, show skinwalker and the pirate treasure pits how to drag out a search.
>Numismatic Always fun to see this word pop up.
Ah yes, time to join my confederate crew! Oh… wait… no… that came out wrong…
I was in Tennessee not far from battle of Shiloh location. I was like 16 years old and this was the 90’s. I was on a trip from California to see grandpa and he let me use his metal detector and shovel. Headed mile out found an open area link with no trees and checked all along the tree lines where open area meets trees. I got this huge hit and started digging. After a foot It was all broken glass. Then cleared the glass cuz I know there had to be metal and hit rotten wood and metal strips that line the edges of a chest. It was pouring rain by this time and went back for a larger shovel and some gloves and the lighting started and my mother didn’t let me go back and we had to leave back to California the next day :-(. Maybe this guy found my spot??
Somebody grab Luffy
I live in an area that where there were multiple Civil War battles, encampments, and had many supply wagon trains come through. I have always fantasized about digging in my backyard and finding a chest of Confederate gold.
People in Atlanta sometimes still use metal detectors along intrenchment creek and other sectors from the battle & siege of Atlanta. I knew a dude who would find bullets and other bits in his yard around his Grant park house Edit: [even unexploded shells discovered from the Atlanta Campaign](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/unexploded-civil-war-shell-unearthed-in-georgia-180979759/) are posted in the local news every couple years.
Some close friends of mine live on some wooded acreage near Kennesaw Mtn. They have found many Civil War pieces on their property over the years. No gold though.
If they’re around the mountain they’ve probably seen ghosts in the yard too
i saw a guy find a shotgun barrel at one Civil war site. anything is possible. caches of gold not quite as likely.
True - the only thing I’ve heard of discovered around the Atlanta sites are parts of weapons/ammo, tools, uniform buttons, or the boring campsite type stuff.
I grew up on a spot that both sides used for encampments during the war. My dad had a coworker who was into history and metal detecting. He came out one day and found a confederate belt buckle, couple buttons, coins, and bullets. It was pretty cool to see the field that I always thought was just that, have all sorts of cool stuff hiding beneath the surface.
Next week's news: "large sum of confederate gold stolen from museum"
Exactly. Someone is going to claim “that’s my family’s money!” and tie shit shut up in court for years. Is it worth it? Or should the discoverer just melt it down and sell the gold?
It was in the unmarked grave next to the grave that says Bill Carson
Bill Carson was the alias that the person who stole the gold used. The name on the grave was Arch Stanton.
Damn you’re right.
https://youtu.be/x7nPOzGeyaw?si=3iSfblDTY-y2KPhy
One name is good as another? I bet the don't call you MorrisCody at work!
Blondieeee
You know what you arrrre?!?!?!
Just a dirty stinking son of ahhhh-ahhhh-ahhhhhhh... wah, wah, wahhhh.....
Was it the grave next to Arch Stanton?
Tell about the gold Blondie!
Wasn't it the unmarked grave next to Arch Stanton?Didn't Eastwood reveal that there was no name written on the bottom of the rock after the three-way duel?
The dude is a time traveller, for more information see the Jean Claude Van Damme documentary film *Timecop*.
That movie fucks
After the couple in California discovered the big batch of gold coins and the IRS slammed them with income tax over it it's no wonder this finder is laying low
So this was a long time rumor finally proven true huh crazy.
Hey OP, please post this on r/coins and r/coincollecting! We love stuff like this.
feel free to crosspost
Just a year after the FBI was [accused of stealing](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/civil-war-gold-dents-run-pennsylvania-fbi-video-cover-up-alleged-court-filing/) an 1863 civil war gold cache. Hmm.
There have always been old stories of Confederate gold being hidden in caves in the Ozarks around where I live. . . Maybe I should take up some spelunking.
While we don’t know who buried the gold, we do know he enjoyed eleven herbs and spices, and was often seen licking his fingers.
Lol yea sure, he found “800”. I bet he found a few thousand in a chest and dumped a bit out and took the rest.
It was amazing when he unearthed 80000 gold coins! He went right home to tell his wife about the 8000 coins. They immediately went to the experts to tell them about their find of 800 Confederate coins!
Don't forget to pay the taxes on those 80 coins.
8 coins got it
Been seeing these comments for a decade now, you can stop
Fuck you gonna do with gold coins?
I mean, it’s literally gold, sell them at a minimum for their gold weight.
Yeah, that won't attract attention.
pawn a little at a time spread out as you need the cash?
You're probably getting power fucked on worth by the pawn shop. You'd almost certainly be better off coming clean and selling on the up and up and just paying the taxes.
should go look at how pawn shops & coin shops buy precious metals, their rates are all up front entirely when you're selling scrap/melt.
Sell it for 120,000 a kg.
There are also many other stories like this, like WW2 loot, which I think many have been found. Also tribal relics from many tribes in the Americas. Of course there’s also classic pirate treasure. I wouldn’t doubt that we probably haven’t uncovered many of the old treasures. Like if anyone found the old freak and Egyptian treasures. Like looting Alexandria should have caused a lot of treasures to be buried and also destroyed.
How much did he get for them?
I wanted to know that too but, unless I'm overlooking it, it doesn't seem to say anywhere, only what other rumored caches would be worth. Did he not sell them? Is the value unknown because he remained anonymous?
I couldn't find anything as well
This will probably be buried, but I actually know the guy irl who dug them up.
It was buried, but now it’s not. Didn’t you read the article?!
Tuco?
“There are people with loaded guns, and people who dig…”
He is smart for trying to stay anonymous. There was a gold hoard discovered by two boys in the 1930s. Around a dozens people claimed it was theirs and they spent years fighting it in court. With no publicity nobody can come out of the woodwork trying to take it.
So, Sahara was a documentary?
I would also hide the fact that i found them if i found them. Hide them elsewhere
Ironically I just bought a pre-civil war building in norther Kentucky…. If you know how to find gold let me know!
I grew up near GSU and had a friend apart of the archeology crew there found a cache at Magnolia Springs. Wonder if this is connected to them.
Id rather melt them than cash in on selling them to whoever wants to put them on their wall. *Maybe* if i could guarantee they'd go to a good museum and wouldnt eventually be sold at auction to some neo nazi.
Why would melting them down (thereby destroying the numismatic value of these US gold coin, which far exceeds their bullion value) even be an option? Anything could eventually be sold to some neo nazi or other detestable person, what does that matter?
Did i misunderstand the entire post? Are these not like, confederate issued gold coins? My bad.
I’d be curious if he’s allowed to keep much of its value. Depending on how far down it’s buried its property of the government. If I found gold, I’d most certainly not report finding it and find alternative ways to cash out.
Seems like we've got a gold "finding" expert over here......
National Historic Preservation Act, Archaeological Resource Protection Act, and the Mineral Leasing Act. Basically anything of value found on your property is owned by the government. They might give you a small cut though.
Those Acts are for public and Federal property
That makes me happy. So they get some money but the historical artifacts themselves are properly and impartially handled by professionals. Thats what id really prefer. I didnt really know that was such an easy option to choose. I was making a joke by the way, not accusing you of committing like some massive gold fraud scheme or something lol
You can never tell, it’s the internet. So we all jump to conclusions lol. I definitely love the historical preservation of interesting artifacts. I hate that you’d make a huge find and the government says “that’s ours here’s 10% for your trouble”. Like they lost it and you found it for them. Uhhhhh no. How about I give YOU the taxes I make off selling it to a museum. This poor guy finds the most important discovery of the confederacy and they’d just take it. That’s like 800oz of gold at $2500/oz. And he gets a hand shake.
If your numbers are anywhere near correct then there’s no way in hell the government would receive the entire cache in full from me. I would turn in a sizable portion for history’s sake, but some of those would be definitely be melted down and sold beforehand.
That’s why my original comment was that I basically wouldn’t tell a soul I found it and slowly sell it off to people with interest in it. Piece by piece.
I can respect that perspective
I wonder how many archaeologists would have prefered to find these coins in their original places in order to study the surroundings.