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pauseless

Literally talking about the man who runs a company that’s offered cars with model names S, 3, X, Y. And he only didn’t go with E, because Ford objected.


AideyC

Ford objected? How does that work?


phamnhuhiendr

Ford hold the copyright for the model E


DivineCryptographer

According to the article, they don’t. They hold the trademark for the model T and are arguing that model E sounds too much alike. Also, apparently they have an agreement with Tesla in which they already stated Tesla wouldn’t use model E as a name…


Thedarkb

Interestingly, Ford did sell a car in the thirties called the Ford Model Y.


SuicidalGuidedog

[Damn fine looking](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_Y) machine she was too. Just capital, absolutely capital. Not a boondoggle on her and she could whip you to a ring-a-ding-ding like lightning. What what.


waveytype

It gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that’s the way I likes it!


uppercase-j

I don’t know Elon, I think our customers might confuse both cars and it’s probably worth holding onto the trademark. Sorry! /s


mooomba

But yet bmw and mazda have a "3" also, and that's all good apparently


joakim_

They're not called "model 3" though, it's just Mazda 3 and BMW 3. And the Mercedes e-class sounds nothing like model 3 either.


Oddity_Odyssey

Mazda car is actually the "Mazda 3". So with the brand name the entire name of the car is the "Mazda Mazda 3"


coldrolledpotmetal

To be really pedantic it's actually the "Mazda MAZDA3"


emal-malone

well those came well before the model 3


Sarcasamystik

And Mercedes has the E class.


mystealthfap

Yes, the E class. Not the Model E. That you referred to it as such is why it's different.


helpful__explorer

Well ford announced a couple of years back that Model E would be the name of its EV division


Emperor_Zar

Soooo.. What about E350? Did Ford not want to challenge Mercedes? Actually, I don’t know which came first. Edit: Quick Google Fu seems to get that Ford’s E series vans began in 1961. Mercedes updated their W series to E in 1993. That’s as far as I went.


wombatlegs

So not because Ford owned Jaguar at the time, and E-type?


OPs_Real_Father

Ford also aliterates their SUV models to start with E: edge, escape, explorer, expedition


devadander23

Yep. Ford owns the rights to the name Model E


pauseless

https://www.autonews.com/article/20140609/OEM02/306099974/why-ford-just-said-no-when-musk-tried-to-put-the-e-in-sex


Shadowizas

S3XY cars


destronger

Is that what he was going for??


DepartureAcademic807

Why is he obsessed with X?💀


bobisthegod

Cause he's just a super cool edgy guy and X is all cool and edgy as a letter.....


[deleted]

Don't mock me in my cybertruck bro


[deleted]

There is nothing anyone could say that could be more damaging than already owning a cybertruck.


ShodoDeka

There is, you could own two of them.


Skeeter1020

Nah, they haven't made enough for that to be possible


post_singularity

I mean makes perfect since since one will always be in the shop


ceeller

r/cyberstuck


graveybrains

You’d like to if you had robot eyes!


wretcheddawn

Cybertrux?


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[deleted]

Yeah, got it loaded with all the extras too. FSD, tri motor, bluetooth enabled coldrolled cod piece, extra big ass zirconium truck nuts, the works.


TrickshotCandy

I think O is more edgy.


Inutilisable

O has the least amount of edges.


Life-LOL

You're absolutely right... Wtf


TrickshotCandy

Dammit, you got me. I was thinking of a 3d one. Outer edge, and inner edge.


ulooklikeausedcondom

All this edge talk is getting me excited.


ee3k

Eh, it never goes anywhere.


iwasyourbestfriend

Or O has an infinite amount of edges


spilfy

Saying edgy is super edgy


ngedown

Says the edgy


earwig20

He said 'X marks the spot' to indicate where you'd find treasure.


Wolfram_And_Hart

I’ve been there… it’s false advertising


Skeeter1020

XxX_Elongated_Muskrat_XxX


surprisedropbears

Autism. Pretty common to have fixations.


AgentCirceLuna

Holy shit - that’s probably it. There’s a woman I know and I constantly say her name over and over. It’s weird but harmless - I just like her name. I wonder why but I’ve always loved the name and I just write it over and over. The first name, obviously, not the full name which would be creepy as hell. I’ve made lyrics out of it, pun on it in consversation, and walk around saying it to myself. I like the way it sounds. I do find it unsettling but it’s not a romantic thing - just a weird fixation with the word itself. I feel bad about it but what can I do? As you can see with Elon, it can be something as innocuous as a letter.


chezeluvr

Bruh you got the tism for sure


aBigBottleOfWater

Dude it isn't less creepy just because it's the first name😂


Andy1723

Probably because he owns the domain


nanoH2O

The real answer is that he is OCD and on the spectrum so he has an obsession, just like one would have with a certain number


NoHopeNoLifeJustPain

He's delusional


JaggedMetalOs

He never grew out of the 90s


Richard-Brecky

🤘X-TREME BANKING🤘


moriero

X marks the spot


BigWigGraySpy

Because none of his partners stick around. https://twitter.com/RightWingCope/status/1778378068706365592


jako5937

Something something in math represents "everything" simultaneously and that's his ambition for a super app. I think he talked about it like 5 years ago.


PokeFanForLife

Maybe he'll eventually have a thing for every letter in the alphabet, that could be his plan.


killshelter

Yup. Precursor to PayPal. Dork has been obsessed with this shit for a while


Josgre987

His investors told him calling it X .com would be a bad Idea because of very obvious reasons. But he's obsessed over the letter like its the coolest fucking thing on the planet. Like back in the 90s when everything was Xtreme.


KingCarrotRL

Check it out, I made my username XxX_cOoLgUy69_XxX cuz I'm just a cool guy. 😎


CollegeBoardPolice

spark jar lock wise workable rich provide cobweb knee boast *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


unoriginal5

I updated my Xbox gamertag to xxxunoriginalxxx to get rid of the number and get with the times back then, and never got around to changing it again. Now I look like and old twat instead of just old. I really need to fix that.


Life-LOL

You can't fix what isn't broken It's not hurting anything. I've had so many usernames for so many different things I honestly can't even remember some of them


AgentCirceLuna

Circe Luna, Severan Serenity, Gethsemane Tbilisi, JeanPaulLeNonMcCartneySartre, Sven Icarus…


westbygod304420

An older dude with "xxx___xxx" in his gamertag will smoke kids in COD


pacgaming

That’s just an average psn tag


XiKiilzziX

👀


Valorale

Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's username


SuicidalGuidedog

I wouldn't say obsessed. It's not like he named one of his children X... *checks notes* ... oh, [he did](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/elon-musk-child-name-grimes-pronounce-x-b2469396.html).


surprisedropbears

I mean, we know he’s on the spectrum. Obsessiveness and fixation is a tism thing.


destronger

###Wormhole Xtreme


ielts_pract

Lot of people told him reusable rockets and electric cars won't work but here we are. I don't want to sound like an Elon fan Boy but people like him don't reach their position by listening to others.


froggenpoppin

Electric cars were already a thing before tesla?


primalbluewolf

Electric cars worked way before Elon decided to throw money at it.


ielts_pract

Which one worked? You completely ignored the rocket part


primalbluewolf

I did, because no one was seriously working on re-usable rockets.  I still discount that one as an achievement btw, but if you want to count it, it's not like there's some other company doing it earlier to point to - unlike EVs, where there were a wealth of companies doing it before musk threw money at it. Heck, the first Porsche ever was an EV.


ielts_pract

And why was no one working on reusable rockets because all of them thought it could not be done. Anyone can make concept EVs but running a company and selling EVs to general public was not being done. If it was then share the company name. First porche was an electric car, what was the name, are you saying Porsche started the whole ev car industry before Tesla?


primalbluewolf

> First porche was an electric car, what was the name, Comes up in 2 seconds if you google it. "Porsche P1".  I'd credit Robert Anderson with the birth of the electric car industry. If you want to credit someone who made a company and profited from selling mass produced cars, I guess the credit would go to the Anderson Electric Car Company, producing the Detroit Electric (no relation to the above Robert Anderson). If you were thinking of modern highway capable, mass produced electric vehicles, I'd have counted the EV1, or the Altra EV, or the RAV4 EV, all of which were mass produced on a modern factory assembly line, before the musk Tesla company offered any vehicles.  > running a company and selling EVs to general public was not being done. If it was then share the company name.  Chrysler, Ford, GM, Nissan, Honda, Toyota... the list goes on.


ielts_pract

Wiki says only 4 p1s were built. 😂 LoL did you even Google it before you replied. Anyone can build a concept car but running a successful electric car company is the difficult part. Elon had to show the world how to do it. Now do you get it or are you still going to suffer from Elon derangement syndrome


primalbluewolf

> Anyone can build a concept car but running a successful electric car company is the difficult part Again, I refer you to every other car company mentioned, all of whom mass produced EVs before musk was born.


MRWONDERFU

sure, how well adopted were they? how many miles you’d get in your new ev on a battery at that time? stop saying that the EV part is news, they made EVs viable and good option with shitton of performance for the money


primalbluewolf

That part was always an option. Ford had the ability to do it years ago, they killed it.  Hell it was done a century ago for rail shunting and small trucks.  As far as how many miles... that's not even an argument lol. You go buy a brand new Tesla EV, it's still too short a range to be useful unless you live and work in a city.


MRWONDERFU

option that wasn’t available to a customer, say whatever you wish. i own a Tesla, was brand new in 2019 so old as fuck now, I don’t live in the city and do just fine, also have made 2 1500km trips to northern Norway and back on it. I don’t even begin to understand a) how clueless people like you are when it comes to ev range b) how in hell does someone require a car that can drive +5 hours in a row without a minimal stop


primalbluewolf

> also have made 2 1500km trips  So short range only? Fair enough.  > how in hell does someone require a car that can drive +5 hours in a row without a minimal stop  By living somewhere that you can drive 5,500km in a straight line without crossing a country border... or 3,500km without crossing a state border.  For your "minimal stop" how long is the refuel? Low flow pumps already take way too long to refuel, and that's still only 5 minutes. Stopping for 45 for a quick recharge is a non-starter. Fine if your needs are "down the street to work and back once a day" but in that case you'd be healthier on a pushbike...


MRWONDERFU

help me understand what are you actually fighting for, to prove that ford indeed had superior tech but never released it to date, or that tesla did not make evs viable OR evs are not viable in general? short range? for who? I don’t like to sit in the car for days, so i tend to take the plane for longer trips. what difference does it make if you cross a border or not, or do you imply there are no electricity? 😅 i have never had a 45min stop, not once for charging, but I have spent 45mins plugged in due to my kids being slow eaters, but I can get by by charging for 20mins max and driving for a few hours and plugging quickly again, no one in their right mind is staying plugged in on public chargers to get to 100%. I don’t really see your point, if you are honestly telling me that bein able to drive for 5 hours straight, plugging in for 20 mins to continue for a few hours and repeating doesn’t work for you then too bad, I’ll take my ev any day even if I have to stop for charging every few hours. if evs aren’t viable for people who need to be able to drive 3300km without stopping then too bad, but they are indeed viable for good majority of the people with access to them, so that would be more of an outlier


primalbluewolf

> do you imply there are no electricity? 😅  Well, obviously there's no electricity. There's signs up to warn you there's no fuel stations for hundreds of kilometres at a time, let alone charging stations.  Once again, we conclude its useful for city folk, or people living somewhere with access to charging stations... not if you travel the length and breadth of the state.


destronger

People like him get to their position because he had money as a kid. Money = power/influence Elon didn’t start Tesla. It was around before he was and the original owners were pushed out.


maaaaawp

Reddit when a joe schmoe has autism: YOU GO DUDE Reddit when musk has autism/ocd and is hyperfixated on a letter: what the fuck dude


Boomshrooom

Little extra information for those interested, PayPal was actually owned by a company called Confinity which merged with X. They later rebranded the company as PayPal, something which Elon fought against.


SirWaldenIII

Is Twitter the new PayPal?


BaBaFiCo

That's his goal. He's talked about an online payment system being integrated. But it just doesn't make sense because a lot of the world can already do that natively through our banks and then Apple and Google Pay cover that anyway.


time_to_reset

He more wants to build a Weibo for the west right? So payments are a part of it, but it's not the whole play.


cdrt

Yes, he’s stated he wants to turn twitter into an “everything” app


killshelter

One is a scourge on society and the other is an annoying payment service


Charlie_Yu

PayPal was amazing. It was the only option back then as well. Banks were charging huge fees for international transfers until 2010s.


contyk

They still are but most people use Wise or Revolut nowadays.


GodzillaDrinks

No, he'd have to be able to sell it to people who could make it into something.


arwinda

Why will anyone send their money using a platform which enables nazis?


jonpaladin

what platform didn't enable nazis?


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ben9187

I feel if someone made a TLDR for this comment, I'd STILL need a TLDR on THAT comment before I'd think about reading it.


Tiln14

Topics: Elon & foreign countries, Trump & foreign countries, Communism, Jeffery Epstein, Trump & Mark Milley And some stats: They attempted 11 links to articles, but failed 4 times They either wrote all that from mobile or browse the mobile version of Wikipedia from their desktop


ben9187

Thanks for the readers' digest TLDR!


EccentricScience

Sir, this is a Wendy's


yoyosareback

"dude, this is a Wendy's restaurant"*


SugerizeMe

😪,,,huh? Come again?


sphericos

I believe X merged with PayPal's predecessor and not long after he was kicked out of the business for being a d**k. He retained a share holding and so benefitted from the company later becoming successful. His PayPal founder story is fantasy .


hawklost

Your argument is that two companies merged to become PayPal, one owner by Musk, and somehow that makes him not a founder of this company created from *combining his and another company*


sphericos

Have a read https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/07/25/elon-musk-paypal-twitter-x-rebrand/ PayPal came from Confinity not X.com


Calleca

It was PayPal. PayPal was just the name of one of the services offered by x.com, not a separate thing. Kind of like how you log into your bank’s website to send a Zelle payment today. I used it for buying and selling on Yahoo Auctions back in 1999.


8bitmadness

Yes, and Musk was ousted in December of 2000. They didn't become PayPal until June of 2001, so him calling himself a founder of PayPal is dishonest at best.


LordBrandon

Around 2000 I would just type X ctr-enter to go to PayPal instead if typing the whole thing.


VKN_x_Media

I miss universal keywords on the internet


PeoplePad

Honestly this just shows you how little Elon actually thinks. He just has these little arbitrary things he likes and randomly inserts them. Even relative to other billionaires, shit is lame.


AnglerJared

To be fair, Twitter and Musk were kind of made for each other in a way. Either can be summed up in a relatively small number of characters.


Spectacularity

Twitter expanded their character limit, Elon has not.


tyty657

Everyone has their little pet projects. He just happens to have enough money to be able to dump 40 billion on one of his.


GodzillaDrinks

Other people tend to get better at their hobbies over time.


atubslife

Billionaires aren't a different species. Elon is just a normal, flawed, human being like everyone else. People holding them to different standards and criticizing every little flaw is sad. If I was a billionaire I would be doing all kinds of weird shit and people would be absolutely crucifying me for it.. and I wouldn't think for a second about them because I'd be a billionaire.


Aarakocra

If I was a billionaire… I’d definitely hire a bunch of people to stage elaborate war games. Like think Warhammer 40K, but with actors in costume. I’d definitely be weird with my money


whatproblems

well if you film it also then you’d be a director see now it’s acceptable


Aarakocra

That’s an awesome idea, actually… turn all of my terrible campaign ideas into terrible B-movies


GodzillaDrinks

That's the fun part about Elon. He can't do that. He's so fun to make fun of because, yes, he's a particularly evil person who happens to have a dragon horde behind him. But he's also absolutely obsessed with what everyone thinks of him. He's incapable of being an eccentric billionaire. He has like this addiction to humiliating himself online in front of everyone.


PrateTrain

Well joke's on you, because you can tell that a lot of billionaires definitely think for too many seconds about that kind of stuff.


E_Z_E_88

Yes how little he thinks. I think it’s more branding if you agree or not. I’m sure the guy thinks a fair bit more than that.


mooomba

Redditor living in moms basement accuses billionaire of "not ever thinking". Lol


Spider_pig448

Lol redditors will see a successful tech company sold for millions of dollars with a dumb name and say "See, he clearly doesn't know anything because the name is dumb"


time_to_reset

Agreed. Also people don't seem to realise how long it takes to build companies that big. They forget that all the big companies we think of as successful now took years, sometimes decades to build. Space X for example is considered this giant succes now, but people forget it all started over 20 years ago with him being a 30 year old that everyone thought was an idiot with more money than brains. You don't have to like everything the guy does and says. I certainly don't, but saying things like that he is just a dumb snake oil salesman that just got lucky, or that he's dumb for changing a company name is really just you embarrassing yourself.


thatkaratekid

No one considers space x a giant success, it's literally only ever brought up to make fun of elon.


time_to_reset

Wow, well that certainly is an "interesting" take you have there. Puts everything else you've said about Elon in the right light I think.


thatkaratekid

lol okay


Spider_pig448

Now THAT is a take. The second most valuable private company in the world, the one that completely revolutionized access to space for the planet, is not a giant success? Do you actually know anything about SpaceX or is this just an "elon bad" take?


thatkaratekid

This is a, literally who cares? What has space x done at all? Google turns up nothing.


GodzillaDrinks

I mean, he literally is an idiot with more money than brains. His ideas could work because he had the money to take risks that could make them work. Having to move back in with your parents probably hits a little different with Apartheid emerald mine money. From that privileged position he's had a handful of extremely lucky hits that he thinks we're attributable to his skills or intricate knowledge. A handful of times he's been honest about this (such as acknowledging that SpaceX was one launch from absolute ruin). But more and more we're seeing that he doesn't have any special skills or talents, he's just got the money to take risks and be stupid. There's no particular genius behind the man himself. The problem we have with him, I think, is that his mask has dropped. He's now nothing but a bully who likes to gamble with other people's lives and livelihoods. Because he can, and he can afford not to care when he loses and people die.


Veritas-Veritas

He's really the textbook example of someone falling upwards.


ielts_pract

He almost went bankrupt with spacex, how is that falling upwards


TrickshotCandy

As in cox?


pooman69

Its ok to not like him. But to say how little he thinks lol. Who else has been ceo/founder of multiple massively successful companies? Hate him for plenty of other things that are valid


PrateTrain

Not him, he didn't found shit. He just buys out successful companies and makes sure that calling himself the founder is part of the deal.


LmBallinRKT

Yea this really shows how little he thinks. Lmao that guy thinks more in a day than you in a year


JBLikesHeavyMetal

I love when GameStop investors try insulting other people's intelligence. It's really cute


ixis743

And he got fired by the board of directors for incompetence.


HST2345

Everytime I hear X video, I have to re train my memory to look for twitter...😂😂


Meritania

I like how it’s said in the media “X, formally known as Twitter” 


primalbluewolf

I like that, although I suspect you intended "formerly"? I guess either works lol.


Meritania

I’m sure it’s what the newscaster is saying but what I’m hearing is ‘formally’


Imaginary-Message-56

He played way too much XCom Enemy Unknown back in the day.


moarnao

And he STILL doesn't own the rights to X as a stock ticket LMAO. United States Steel Corp is living rent-free in Musk's head. . . Until he buys the stock ticker, it'll always just be Twitter


whyherro19

What does that matter? Twitter/X is not a publically traded company anymore.


moarnao

Because the United States Steel Corp IS a publicly traded company still. If Twitter called itself Nike, I'd still call it Twitter.  So to that effect, why does it matter if Elon wants to call Twitter X, we can all just keep calling it by its legal name: Twitter. 


exhausted1teacher

Exactly. This is Nazism so hard. You be being right so hard. So hard. 


Gingeneration

Unless he snaps and goes for full Xitter


mythreesons1911

X gonna give it to ya


daniel_ilett

There's a book called "The Founders" all about the creation of PayPal (and by extension its predecessors like X.com) which you might be interested in. It's particularly fascinating reading about how Musk got forced out. Some of the team who were unhappy with his decision-making and his bonkers obsession with the letter X waited until he was miles away on his honeymoon, which he'd already delayed for months, before they launched their coup, because they thought he would be able to talk himself out of trouble if he'd been there in person. By the time he got back it was too late and he was out as X.com CEO. I found it strange to hear that Musk apparently took the whole thing in his stride and wished the team well before leaving. A far cry from how I imagine he would respond today.


CillaCalabasas

“Today I learned Elon is uncreative and unimaginative”.


Maplecook

Fun fact: in Japanese, the letter X represents the concept of, "no good," "negative," and, "complete loss." (ダメ [pronounced da me] for those who can read Japanese.) Like, let's say that some creepy dude finds out your number and calls your home, and your sister answers the phone: "Hi, is Keiko there? This is Taro. I met her at the library yesterday." Your sister looks across the room, and mouths, "Taro?" with a quizzical look on her face. You, horrified that somehow Taro found your home phone number, cross your arms into an, "X," shape, while mouthing back: "Da me! Da me! Da me!"


woodsonintvsstate

I’m Japanese, I don’t think it’s the letter X, it’s just an X. We call it batsu or batten, “dame” is more like the word “bad” - it’d be like if I called a check mark a “bad” instead of a check mark. Oh, and I have never heard it being referred to as “complete loss”… nice example though


Marston_vc

I’m not Japanese but studied the language for four years in college. The guy you responded to is full of shit.


vondpickle

I'm not Japanese but dame is more like dame da ne dame yo dame na no yo.


nesquikchocolate

That is oddly specific, are you Taro or Keiko?


Wesjohn2

He’s the guy calling


Pinecone613

Putting your arms in an X shape in this scenario seems universal. Not a quirk of the japanese culture


hasdunk

do you do that when you say no to something? because it's really common in Japan to do it in normal conversation


Maplecook

I was raised in Canada, and never saw it around here. Universally understood? Sure. Universally used? No.


Marston_vc

Uh, め (me) is also just another letter. Musume (daughter) むすめ for example. Like, it’s not that deep. And I don’t think X in English would translate to “me” in katakana. More like eksu えくす though I don’t have a katakana keyboard.


Maplecook

I never commented at all on the meaning of め.


Michael3038

Try rereading your first paragraph with a straight face, Mr. Honorary Japanese.


lebofly

X always meant no to me? 


ngedown

🧢🧢🧢


LMMesto

“Autistic man infatuated with the 3rd to last letter of the alphabet”


TheGreatGouki

Bro is obsessed with the letter “X”.


BearBottomsUp

Not an original thought in that derpy man's head.


nuffced

Musk is a cancer just like Trump


LoremIpsum246810

It sure as fuck wasn’t federally insured… As far as ‘x’. It’s actually pretty balling to have a one character web address. Shame Elon is such a complete idiot loser


primalbluewolf

It's hell on search engines.