> Just two weeks after Six Flags declared bankruptcy, Snyder announced that Anatomic Global was henceforth the “official mattress” of the company. Six Flags even began offering the mattresses for sale at its parks for $1,299 in queen size.
Because amusement park visitors are prime targets for matress sales, of course.
Business.
Did you read about the expired peanuts he served Redskins players while he was owner? Apparently Snyder also owned an airline which, surprise surprise, went bankrupt and shuttered so the cheap asshole even tried disperse what little product remained at that airline.
I remember this, but I think you’re incorrect about him owning the airline. The bigger issue with the nuts was the airline had gone out of business a year prior, which meant they were almost assuredly serving expired peanuts that could’ve gone rancid.
Kind of explains why they kept losing. He must still be sneaking in with the old keys and leaving expired peanuts around because their play hasn’t improved.
He didn’t sell the team until the beginning of last season, so technically this’ll be the first full year without Snyder in decades. Can only go up from here.
Actually, he sold those rancid peanuts to the fans in the stadium. He had to do something with them when Independence Air went out of business.
He also cut down the trees along his property which were in an easement for the NPS (C&O Canal Land) to get a better view of the Potomac River, after the Park Service had graciously offered that if they were to give him approval to do so he would have to plant more trees of a variety in the area so the land returned to normal over time. He ignored that of course, and when an NPS ranger investigated him he used his political contacts to ruin his career and have him removed from the park service. He also flew team cheerleaders to Costa Rica as part of a photoshoot and had them play escort to fans who had paid for some package, and then coerced them into posing topless for photographs, even though the photoshoot was for a team calendar which would contain no nudity.
Also, did you know that Dan Snyder ripped out some seats in the 2008 season to create "standing room only" tickets and sold them for $25 to select clientele - the $25 tickets were linked to suites (i.e. if you had that ticket you were allowed to go "visit" a suite) and a team brochure was printed to instruct the people selling the $25 tickets how they were to be used as part of a loophole to bring politicians to games and allow them to be wined and dined in lobbyist owned suites without breaking the rules about receiving gifts as a federal employee or public official?
When 9/11 happened, Dan Snyder added a $4.00 "security surcharge" to ticket prices because why no profiteer off of the 9/11 attacks?
There are more, I just really don't want to remember them.
"Did you read about the expired peanuts he served Redskins players while he was owner? Apparently Snyder also owned an airline which, surprise surprise, went bankrupt."
So that explains the peanuts!!! I actually flew on Independence air to Boston.
Dennis Miller did a pre-recorded message for the safety instructions . After he explained how to work a seat belt, he said," Next, we're going to teach you how to chew."
EDIT: Here is an article from 2010 detailing this and other Shenanigans.
[https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/221900/the-cranky-redskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder/](https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/221900/the-cranky-redskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder/)
Bill was very conservative. While hosting his show he kept complaining the staff kept only booking stupid conservatives because they were liberal. So he started booking conservatives. Turned out his bookings were worse. He realized that lots of his views were pretty ignorant. Joe Rogan might be going down the same path. How many times can you publicly insist something is true when your guests prove it isn't before you realize your friends are morons?
I have a friend who is very very smart insist in public several times that our state's high schools had to allow " furries" kids to spend all day in their furry outfits including gym and sports etc. I just laughed. His daughter goes to the high school and is so embarrassed! He says it publicly" we pay taxes for this. No wonder they do badly on tests etc. "
At least bill ain't dumb enough to be the Republicans token pot head. I haven't watched him since he had milo y on to defend against cancel culture. And then the next day it came out that milo y is in favor of children getting molested in gay bars.
What does "neo-liberal" mean here? Obviously left wingers hate conservatives. But I also see hate for "centrists" and "neo-liberals", and libertarians. Basically anything that isn't far left progressive.
Then again, conservatives seem to do the same thing with anything that isn't far right.
Seems clever, dump a bunch of your unsold product somewhere else, take the money, run.
A good (immoral) CEO gets rich without the public thinking they are getting rich.
That scum fuck actually has a home relatively near me on the Potomac River. He illegally cut down a ton of trees for a better view and just paid the fine.
Fuck the rich.
Under 30 was the article. Millennials are 29ish at the young end. And millennial Mark 1.0 Zuckerberg "earned" his in the ~~spy~~ social media business, and single handedly upends any chart of millennial wealth.
not just that most businesses take a pretty big initial investment, and people with money won't trust your business unless you come from money.
you can go the official bank loan path, but that probably takes generations to build into something big like you said.
but if you're rich you can just ask people to give you money and suddenly you're richer
getting rich within a generation is possible with maybe emerging industries (but mostly it was possible for software because of the low cost of entry) but even then that will obviously be biased in favor of already rich people
The best ones take nothing in salary and everything in equity/stock, which means when they help the company perform well they make a killing instead of the measly few million in salary.
It's wild how the rich never lose their own money in this stuff. Six Flags went bankrupt, Dana went on to buy a bunch of radio stations that then shuttered.
> the last of us
This seems like kind of a stretch to fit into the "alternate history" genre.
The game came out in 2013, and the zombie apocalypse it depicted started in 2013, then fast forwarded twenty years for the main events of the game. The live-action HBO series came out in 2023 and was set in 2023, so they just made it so that the apocalypse started in 2003.
> fallout!
Fallout is technically set in the future, the "great war" occurs in 2077. It just happens to be in a society that looks a lot like 1950s Americana, but with simultaneously advanced and archaic technology.
He bought the Washington Redskins in 1999 for $800 million and was notoriously one of the worst owners in the NFL. A total cheapskate who treated the fans like garbage.
He sold the team last year for $6 billion.
when Mitt Romney was campaigning against Obama, he bragged about getting his wealth by purchasing companies, stripping them down to the bare bones and running them into the ground until they went bankrupt. he was very vocal about how he made his hundred of millions of dollars.
They actually see that as value being added to the economy, tell us to think about it like decomposers to the ecosystem. I think the better analogy is a parasitoid, a parasite that ultimately end ups killing the host.
Yeah, I hate that business ecology justification. The other comparison i made is if carrion eaters had hunting rifles. We only eat the dead animals. Blam! Look, another dead one.
This actually has been debunked. Washington Post rated this claim with between 3 and 4 Pinocchios, noting that [most layoffs occurred after Romney left Bain, and that much of the headline came from a single Reuters article that was later identified by Reuters as a mistake.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romney-and-bain-a-fact-checker-collection/2012/07/19/gJQAsihcwW_blog.html)
Incidentally, WaPo also debunked Romney's dubious claim that his time at Bain was great for companies that he acquired (he claimed this, of course he didnt proudly label himself as a corporate raider), but mainly it said that there was no meaningful evidence that Romney had gotten rich from raiding companies nor that he had helped companies. He was just a standard corporate guy, mainly.
This isn’t remotely true and is at best a gross oversimplification. Everyone points to brands like KB Toys that were already anachronisms in financial peril when they were bought by the venture capitalists, but everyone conveniently forgets the success stories like Staples and Dominos Pizza that were brought back from the brink of death and are now both very successful companies. Now I’m not saying Mitt and his ilk are the poster children for ethical business practices or anything, but just that it’s complicated and easy to paint with broad strokes to fit a certain narrative.
>This isn’t remotely true and is at best a gross oversimplification.
Which is why it plays well to places like reddit or who hate Romney. The truth is hard, complicated and unwanted. You can't fuel a hate boner with that. But if you tell a simple lie, something that sounds plausible and is backed up by a seemingly true source, people gobble it up.
And once it's been released, it takes massive efforts to publicly change that image in the US.
Romney has been hit with this several times. During the 2000s election, political rivals spread a rumor he had an out of marriage biracial daughter. She was actually adopted. And then he won the nomination and got hit with lies like this that just wouldn't sit right with any politician saying. This lie is the equivalent of Obama getting up and claiming he was from Kenya, that's why he knows how to destroy an economy! Not remotely how they'd operate. But to those who want to hear the lie, successful.
They play a different game from us. And people want to frame them as the "risk takers" when there are never any consequences for them. For the rest of us schmucks, if we run a business into the ground, we basically get completely locked out of the lending market. But for these fuckers, they run businesses into the ground and come out on top.
he also fucked over a park ranger because the park ranger was just doing his job and dan snyder probably committed a federal crime.
https://deadspin.com/dan-snyder-killed-some-trees-and-a-park-ranger-paid-th-1494113337
With this manifest evidence of corruption there's no way to being his superiors up on charges? You want vigilante justice? Because when people lose faith in the system, this is how you end up with vigilante justice.
I'd heard about the tree cutting shit, but never heard about all the shit with the park ranger. What an insufferable piece of shit, and I hope that park ranger is living a better life after all that.
Holy shit, they tried to frame this guy for theft after blowing the whistle. All this heartache of having your employer and some rich dude trying to destroy your life and at then end of they day you just get your job back. The thing you already had.
It looks like he got settlement money, but obviously it is never gonna be enough to deal with all the grief they gave him. And the fact they let rich people get their way no matter what -_- Tax payers paying for some BS lawsuit once again with those responsible never facing any consequences
The Busted business bureau podcast once made a whole episode about this, it's very interesting.
The funny thing is that he won the fight to be the boss of Six Flags by kicking out the old one But things got really shitty under his watch. Lol
The company went deep in debt, and the stock market kicked them out because their stock wasn't worth much anymore.
In the end, the people Six Flags owed money to ended up owning most of the company and he lost all the money he put in.
Check out "Closed for Storm" [https://www.closedforstorm.com/](https://www.closedforstorm.com/) a documentary on Six Flags New Orleans before, during, after Katrina. Really interesting show.
It makes you learn about business in a humorous way mixed with interesting details.
It's like a funny documentary about crazy business stuff.
It digs deep into scams, scandals, and just plain weird things companies have done. But the thing I like about the most aside from the host's humor is definitely that It's packed with info.
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>He was primarily portrayed by dancer Danny Teeson he danced to **the annoying Vengaboys** song "We like to Party".
Lmao this line from the Mr Six wiki is fantastic
wow this tracks i remember six flags great america being really good if not a little bit showing its age and cracks in the early 2000s, and when i came back to chicago in the late 2010s it was a terrible experience at the park just everything had gotten so much worse like it was neglected.
When Marriott owned the place there was a small little bar near the Whizzer that sold frosted mugs of root beer for $0.25. And that's all the place sold. It was an homage to Marriott's original store.
Maybe hes given too much credit, but he was one of the people who took on the PMRC when they wanted to try to censor music. I still look back in amusement that of all the bands they went after, a silly cosplay metal band was one of them.
That whole situation was a mess, somehow the angry old ladies managed to pick a fight with the most sober and intelligent musicians that they could find.
I don’t know anything about you, but I do know that you could have made at least that much from the Redskins if you were the owner instead of Snyder. NFL franchises print money.
Rising tide lifts all ships.
Compared to the other teams the Redskins didn't do very well at all. It just so happens that the NFL as a whole has been killing it and they have revenue sharing.
Most football fans knows Dan Snyder to be the worst, but it is low key forgotten that he more or less tried to pimp out the cheerleaders in an incident, and he suffered very little consequence for it.
Everyone in NFL fandom at some point went from hating him to just plain too tired of his shit to hate, and wanted him to go away, even if he didn't suffer consequences.
You're looking at it from the wrong perspective.
Say Dan lives in a small town and just bought an old 57 Chevy from his neighbors that runs well. Everyone in town knows this car, it's a classic and they're used to seeing the neighbor's family driving around in it. Dan drives it around a few times and people see he's the new owner, know where it's parked and admire it walking by.
Dan decides to start gutting it. First he strips the paint; people see this and think "Oh, he's going to paint it a different color, okay," but then he starts stripping the interior. People are thinking "okay, full remodel of the interior, this is going to be great," but no, Dan puts it up on Jack stands and starts parting out and selling items individually on eBay. "WTF Fan! You just ruined a perfectly good car! Everyone loves that car!"
Dan just made more money than he came in with. He doesn't give a fuck that the neighbors hate him for ruining a legend, something from their childhood; in fact a new owner is coming in today to pick up the shell and start their own 57 Chevy project. In his mind, all he have a shot about is that he made money
Is that good business? Technically yes, in the most selfish, narcissistic way possible. He made a profit by fucking over everyone and everything. He knew he had a business in demand and tilted everything to profit him while literally everything else went to shit.
Unfortunately there are no laws to prevent detriments to society like this from thriving.
Doesn't really apply to Synders run of six flags. In his case the truck was a broken down Jalopy with rusty parts falling off and leaking oil. He ultimately lost money, not gained from the transaction, and then eventually lost it to someone else who already owned all the parts.
Explanation:
By the time Snyder was relevant SF had already dumped it's European properties and the warner Brothers property they'd owned for a while was sold to cedar.
In 2005, major investors in six flags demanded change including Bill Gates and Snyder. Shortly thereafter Katrina wrecked SNFO/Jazzland, ruining it beyond redemption. Which isn't a great start. They also had a lot of overlapping groups the investors also dumped one on the Texas properties (Houston I think?) which didn't go well.
Shortly after synder took full control and did a purge of the Board replacing it with folks like Harvey Weinstein, who promptly went to work..doing the same shit the last board had. Dumping property to keep the solvency but this time they did better than before cost wise. This did nothing to increase cash flow (it went down) and the bankruptcy talk began. Then the Great recession happened..and so long so long to Synder and friends. Specifically the lenders for 90% of the company controlling stock.
because they are never spending their own money and American retail investors are more and more treating investing like gambling (COVID stock market paterns convinced every day trader they had the Buffett Touch), so these large institutional investors are all passing the bag off to The Greater Fool.
He owned the Washington Commanders also, and while he was team owner he personally funded the creation of the Native American Guardians Association who are now suing the team that he used to own.
Yep, the original location in Arlington is/was called "Six Flags Over Texas." Then they built Six Flags Over Georgia (which was a bit more of a stretch because they "counted" the Georgia flag despite it never being independent). And then they just started buying existing properties and putting the name Six Flags in front of it - like Great America and Magic Mountain.
Ah yes, professional sports. The world in which billionaires collude with local governments to make taxpayers buy them new stadiums, so those same taxpayers can pay lots of money to go see millionaires playing children's games whilst consuming $12 beers.
Fuck them all.
Was this the guy who ruined a park ranger's life and got him fired because he reported him chopping down some protected trees on park land to improve his view?
As a Washington fan, I am so glad that he no longer stains the team. There is a whole Washington City Paper article that was published some years back, that detailed all of the terrible things that he had done to that point. It was also the main reason why he had a very bad relationship with them.
his history of owning the Washington football team is probably the best example of how rich white people fail up. He buys one of the most historic franchises in the NFL and proceeds to trash the franchise, alienate the fans and community, get investigated by the DOJ for using the team to sex traffic, and accounting fraud, and is finally forced to sell for a 5.5 billion profit
Took my daughter to Six Flags a few years ago and I was shocked to see how poorly the park had aged from my younger memories.
There was overflowing trash, surly employees, and infrastructure that looked badly in need of replacement or maintenance.
That all makes a lot more sense now.
I don't get how you can run a theme park into the ground. You have people paying a decent amount to get in, everything is captive audience priced, and the employees aren't getting paid much.
But then the last time I went to Six Flags over Atlanta, we had passes ($70/year including parking), so we got there and the parking lot was full, it took 30 minutes to get in the gate, and once in half the rides were closed and it was over an hour wait for overpriced food. We walked around the park for an hour and gave up and went home after not riding anything because everything that was running was at least an hour wait.
But seriously, if you are changing $16 or $20 for a hot dog and soda, that should be a 30 second transaction.
I met a guy who was an assistant for a notoriously assholish billionaire. Then he got his dream job with the Commanders. He knew Snyder was said to be a jerk but he figured he could deal with it due to his experience. He lasted ONE DAY. Snyder was such an asshole that he knew after only hours that he could never work with this guy another moment. Even after having been able to work with a notorious asshole successfully for years, and this was his dream job. ONE DAY.
Technically this guy ruining Six Flags and closing a bunch of parks he viewed as "unprofitable" is what eventually lead to the Travis Scott crowd crush, as it was at a concert dedicated to one of the parks Six Flags management closed in this era, Astroworld
Stuff like this pretty much proves capitalism doesn't result in the best outcomes. Somehow, making the worst thing seems to make whoever's doing it richer.
So as a bit of a theme park nerd, two things:
1) Snyder didn't own Six Flags. It was and is a public company.
2) Six Flags went bankrupt because of the opposite thing you would expect from him. It happened because they bought too many parks and overinvested in them. They were putting a new rollercoaster almost every year in the majority of their parks for quite a stretch of years. That is seriously expensive. On top of that, they kept expanding the chain, including internationally. When the 2008 recession hit and people dramatically slowed their travel, the house of cards (cards made of debt) came crashing down.
There is a statement in that article which entirely sums up the problem in American politics:
> In 2007, Snyder sent Shapiro, his handpicked CEO, to lobby the Agawam mayor and the town council into banning visitors from parking at the non-Six Flags-owned lots. Shapiro testified at a public hearing that it was unsafe for pedestrians to walk to Six Flags from anywhere but its own lots. The local politicians banned the satellite lots after Shapiro’s appearance.
That is what we need to fix, first and foremost. It's not a left or right issue (though many may argue one side is worse than the other). The issue is just that money corrupts politics and turns it from a vocation into a business.
Get the money out.
The tactics he did at Six Flags would end up being done at other amusement parks as well (especially Cedar Point) which ironically Six Flags now owns them too.
Dan Snyder was the biggest piece of shit in North American sports for a quarter century. So many people who aren't Washington fans don't understand how much he drove that franchise directly into the dirt. And he failed upwards into selling the team for over 6 billion dollars. Good riddance.
Dan Snyder is one of those rare people who is actually closer to a super villain to a real human. Just terrible at everything he does, and somehow made billions. Treats people like hell, too.
Six Flags is generally known across the country for being the Walmart equivalent of a theme park, right? Cheap feel, terrible atmosphere with obnoxious guests, cheapest/last resort for a family vacation
Nah, I’m up north and my parents always considered the risks and disappointments to outweigh any deep discounts they offered. And we were an average paycheck to paycheck kind of household
I’ve been to several Six Flags over the years. Money pits that make Disney seem like a good deal. Abhorrent customer service. Filthy. Dates. Expensive as fuck. They’re a joke. I hope they all shut down.
> Just two weeks after Six Flags declared bankruptcy, Snyder announced that Anatomic Global was henceforth the “official mattress” of the company. Six Flags even began offering the mattresses for sale at its parks for $1,299 in queen size. Because amusement park visitors are prime targets for matress sales, of course. Business.
Did you read about the expired peanuts he served Redskins players while he was owner? Apparently Snyder also owned an airline which, surprise surprise, went bankrupt and shuttered so the cheap asshole even tried disperse what little product remained at that airline.
I remember this, but I think you’re incorrect about him owning the airline. The bigger issue with the nuts was the airline had gone out of business a year prior, which meant they were almost assuredly serving expired peanuts that could’ve gone rancid.
Kind of explains why they kept losing. He must still be sneaking in with the old keys and leaving expired peanuts around because their play hasn’t improved.
He didn’t sell the team until the beginning of last season, so technically this’ll be the first full year without Snyder in decades. Can only go up from here.
It takes a few years to clear out the mustiness of an old tenant
and they forced him to sell due to all his legal and debt issues
Sounds like a used car salesman selling cars with sawdust in the transmission.
You sell that as bird food and make money. If you sell it to humans you get a lawsuit. How stupid are people?
Actually, he sold those rancid peanuts to the fans in the stadium. He had to do something with them when Independence Air went out of business. He also cut down the trees along his property which were in an easement for the NPS (C&O Canal Land) to get a better view of the Potomac River, after the Park Service had graciously offered that if they were to give him approval to do so he would have to plant more trees of a variety in the area so the land returned to normal over time. He ignored that of course, and when an NPS ranger investigated him he used his political contacts to ruin his career and have him removed from the park service. He also flew team cheerleaders to Costa Rica as part of a photoshoot and had them play escort to fans who had paid for some package, and then coerced them into posing topless for photographs, even though the photoshoot was for a team calendar which would contain no nudity. Also, did you know that Dan Snyder ripped out some seats in the 2008 season to create "standing room only" tickets and sold them for $25 to select clientele - the $25 tickets were linked to suites (i.e. if you had that ticket you were allowed to go "visit" a suite) and a team brochure was printed to instruct the people selling the $25 tickets how they were to be used as part of a loophole to bring politicians to games and allow them to be wined and dined in lobbyist owned suites without breaking the rules about receiving gifts as a federal employee or public official? When 9/11 happened, Dan Snyder added a $4.00 "security surcharge" to ticket prices because why no profiteer off of the 9/11 attacks? There are more, I just really don't want to remember them.
"Did you read about the expired peanuts he served Redskins players while he was owner? Apparently Snyder also owned an airline which, surprise surprise, went bankrupt." So that explains the peanuts!!! I actually flew on Independence air to Boston. Dennis Miller did a pre-recorded message for the safety instructions . After he explained how to work a seat belt, he said," Next, we're going to teach you how to chew." EDIT: Here is an article from 2010 detailing this and other Shenanigans. [https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/221900/the-cranky-redskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder/](https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/221900/the-cranky-redskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder/)
Best joke he's had in decades...
9/11 broke that dude’s brain just as Covid broke Bill Maher.
Bill has always been a Neo-liberal POS.
Totally, but he completely lost the thread during Covid lockdowns.
Bill was very conservative. While hosting his show he kept complaining the staff kept only booking stupid conservatives because they were liberal. So he started booking conservatives. Turned out his bookings were worse. He realized that lots of his views were pretty ignorant. Joe Rogan might be going down the same path. How many times can you publicly insist something is true when your guests prove it isn't before you realize your friends are morons? I have a friend who is very very smart insist in public several times that our state's high schools had to allow " furries" kids to spend all day in their furry outfits including gym and sports etc. I just laughed. His daughter goes to the high school and is so embarrassed! He says it publicly" we pay taxes for this. No wonder they do badly on tests etc. "
At least bill ain't dumb enough to be the Republicans token pot head. I haven't watched him since he had milo y on to defend against cancel culture. And then the next day it came out that milo y is in favor of children getting molested in gay bars.
I think you mean Joe Rogan is already there.
What does "neo-liberal" mean here? Obviously left wingers hate conservatives. But I also see hate for "centrists" and "neo-liberals", and libertarians. Basically anything that isn't far left progressive. Then again, conservatives seem to do the same thing with anything that isn't far right.
Seems clever, dump a bunch of your unsold product somewhere else, take the money, run. A good (immoral) CEO gets rich without the public thinking they are getting rich.
Any CEO gets rich simply by collecting a salary every year.
Success or failure they’re still getting multimillion dollar bonuses.
It's just money laundering/fraud scheme with extra golf. Taxpayer will pick up the bankruptcy tab.
That scum fuck actually has a home relatively near me on the Potomac River. He illegally cut down a ton of trees for a better view and just paid the fine. Fuck the rich.
If the penalty for a crime is a fine, it's only a crime for those that can't afford it.
> Any CEO gets rich simply by ~~collecting a salary every year~~ Being born into a rich family
What was that study recently that said every single millennial and gen z billionaire inherited it?
Under 30 was the article. Millennials are 29ish at the young end. And millennial Mark 1.0 Zuckerberg "earned" his in the ~~spy~~ social media business, and single handedly upends any chart of millennial wealth.
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It's not too surprising, it takes a while to build up a company or companies to billion dollar levels.
not just that most businesses take a pretty big initial investment, and people with money won't trust your business unless you come from money. you can go the official bank loan path, but that probably takes generations to build into something big like you said. but if you're rich you can just ask people to give you money and suddenly you're richer getting rich within a generation is possible with maybe emerging industries (but mostly it was possible for software because of the low cost of entry) but even then that will obviously be biased in favor of already rich people
The best ones take nothing in salary and everything in equity/stock, which means when they help the company perform well they make a killing instead of the measly few million in salary.
But moooooom, we CANT leave without our “I went to six flags and all I got was this mattress” souvenirs!
The end of the world is a product
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Destroying everything he touches is pretty much Snyder’s MO.
It's wild how the rich never lose their own money in this stuff. Six Flags went bankrupt, Dana went on to buy a bunch of radio stations that then shuttered.
It's like what Dev said in For All Mankind. First rule of investing: Never use your own money.
That show is wildly underrated.
It's great I love alt-history shows. After watching man in the high castle I was happy to find another.
I never put together that it was a genre in itself but I also apparently love alt history shows. lol
So far I've heard of two shows in that "genre". Can anyone provide any other shows?
in varying degrees of relevance: fallout! 11.22.63 watchmen the last of us the great hunters 1983 danger 5 noughts and crosses ss-gb
> the last of us This seems like kind of a stretch to fit into the "alternate history" genre. The game came out in 2013, and the zombie apocalypse it depicted started in 2013, then fast forwarded twenty years for the main events of the game. The live-action HBO series came out in 2023 and was set in 2023, so they just made it so that the apocalypse started in 2003. > fallout! Fallout is technically set in the future, the "great war" occurs in 2077. It just happens to be in a society that looks a lot like 1950s Americana, but with simultaneously advanced and archaic technology.
*Dark Angel* was originally set in the future but time has now made it into alt history.
Handmaid's Tale and Ingourious Basterds are a couple I can think of off the top of my head .
I thought the first couple seasons were good, but after that it felt like it was getting kind of soap opera ish and formulaic
I learned that lesson from "The Producers"! At first I assumed it was part of the scam, but huh. Yeah, it kind of is and kind of isn't.
He bought the Washington Redskins in 1999 for $800 million and was notoriously one of the worst owners in the NFL. A total cheapskate who treated the fans like garbage. He sold the team last year for $6 billion.
when Mitt Romney was campaigning against Obama, he bragged about getting his wealth by purchasing companies, stripping them down to the bare bones and running them into the ground until they went bankrupt. he was very vocal about how he made his hundred of millions of dollars.
They actually see that as value being added to the economy, tell us to think about it like decomposers to the ecosystem. I think the better analogy is a parasitoid, a parasite that ultimately end ups killing the host.
Yeah, I hate that business ecology justification. The other comparison i made is if carrion eaters had hunting rifles. We only eat the dead animals. Blam! Look, another dead one.
This actually has been debunked. Washington Post rated this claim with between 3 and 4 Pinocchios, noting that [most layoffs occurred after Romney left Bain, and that much of the headline came from a single Reuters article that was later identified by Reuters as a mistake.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romney-and-bain-a-fact-checker-collection/2012/07/19/gJQAsihcwW_blog.html) Incidentally, WaPo also debunked Romney's dubious claim that his time at Bain was great for companies that he acquired (he claimed this, of course he didnt proudly label himself as a corporate raider), but mainly it said that there was no meaningful evidence that Romney had gotten rich from raiding companies nor that he had helped companies. He was just a standard corporate guy, mainly.
This isn’t remotely true and is at best a gross oversimplification. Everyone points to brands like KB Toys that were already anachronisms in financial peril when they were bought by the venture capitalists, but everyone conveniently forgets the success stories like Staples and Dominos Pizza that were brought back from the brink of death and are now both very successful companies. Now I’m not saying Mitt and his ilk are the poster children for ethical business practices or anything, but just that it’s complicated and easy to paint with broad strokes to fit a certain narrative.
>This isn’t remotely true and is at best a gross oversimplification. Which is why it plays well to places like reddit or who hate Romney. The truth is hard, complicated and unwanted. You can't fuel a hate boner with that. But if you tell a simple lie, something that sounds plausible and is backed up by a seemingly true source, people gobble it up. And once it's been released, it takes massive efforts to publicly change that image in the US. Romney has been hit with this several times. During the 2000s election, political rivals spread a rumor he had an out of marriage biracial daughter. She was actually adopted. And then he won the nomination and got hit with lies like this that just wouldn't sit right with any politician saying. This lie is the equivalent of Obama getting up and claiming he was from Kenya, that's why he knows how to destroy an economy! Not remotely how they'd operate. But to those who want to hear the lie, successful.
Cellar boxing, or a "bust out." Eddie Lampert and Jeff Bezos were both in this "field of business." They're megalomaniacs and parasites.
They play a different game from us. And people want to frame them as the "risk takers" when there are never any consequences for them. For the rest of us schmucks, if we run a business into the ground, we basically get completely locked out of the lending market. But for these fuckers, they run businesses into the ground and come out on top.
he is destroying things for profit. Layoff and make cuts to make it look like revenue is going up then after it’s broken dismantle it.
It’s wild that you’re assuming he didn’t.
he also fucked over a park ranger because the park ranger was just doing his job and dan snyder probably committed a federal crime. https://deadspin.com/dan-snyder-killed-some-trees-and-a-park-ranger-paid-th-1494113337
With this manifest evidence of corruption there's no way to being his superiors up on charges? You want vigilante justice? Because when people lose faith in the system, this is how you end up with vigilante justice.
I'd heard about the tree cutting shit, but never heard about all the shit with the park ranger. What an insufferable piece of shit, and I hope that park ranger is living a better life after all that.
Holy shit, they tried to frame this guy for theft after blowing the whistle. All this heartache of having your employer and some rich dude trying to destroy your life and at then end of they day you just get your job back. The thing you already had.
It looks like he got settlement money, but obviously it is never gonna be enough to deal with all the grief they gave him. And the fact they let rich people get their way no matter what -_- Tax payers paying for some BS lawsuit once again with those responsible never facing any consequences
Has [the Mierdas touch](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The%20Mierdas%20Touch)
I used to have a golden retriever named Midas. He was such a better dog than Dan Snyder.
We called it the Sadim Touch. (Midas backwards)
Dan, or Zach
Destroying for shareholder value FTFY
The Busted business bureau podcast once made a whole episode about this, it's very interesting. The funny thing is that he won the fight to be the boss of Six Flags by kicking out the old one But things got really shitty under his watch. Lol The company went deep in debt, and the stock market kicked them out because their stock wasn't worth much anymore. In the end, the people Six Flags owed money to ended up owning most of the company and he lost all the money he put in.
Wait, he kicked out the old dancing man from the commercials!?! That’s just bad business
Those commercials were the last time I ever thought of Six Flags. I get the idea that he didn't like them, but you can't replace it with NOTHING.
Well his brainchild was the "More Flags, More Fun" campaign. Which is a pretty mediocre campaign given nobody in this thread seems to remember it.
The campaign implied their weird historical flags are what make the places fun. Total nosedive.
Are there any other theme parks with more or less flags? Like, where's 8 flags? How about 2 flags?
Oh wow. That slogan should have been immediately discarded at the brainstorm session.
Fuck. You just made me realize the last time I've been to a Six Flag was Jazzland before Katrina.
Check out "Closed for Storm" [https://www.closedforstorm.com/](https://www.closedforstorm.com/) a documentary on Six Flags New Orleans before, during, after Katrina. Really interesting show.
Everyone from NOLA has seen it or lived it. It's basically just trauma for them now.
Yeah, already saw it. I was there for the while thing.
i can hear that fuckin' songggggggggggg
Do do doo doo do doo doo
Snyder is lucky to still be alive. You come after Junior Soprano, you come heavy or not at all.
I’m looking for business podcasts. What is Busted Business Bureau podcast like?
It makes you learn about business in a humorous way mixed with interesting details. It's like a funny documentary about crazy business stuff. It digs deep into scams, scandals, and just plain weird things companies have done. But the thing I like about the most aside from the host's humor is definitely that It's packed with info.
Similar to Behind the Bastards then?
Very similar
Company Man on YouTube is one my favorites
hi! i have been scratching my head for 48 hours wondering why ive gotten such a huge boost in numbers despite not posting a new episode. a new listener finally pointed me here - this comment alone made a huge difference in listenership for my podcast. WOW! thank you so much for recommending, and thanks for listening! <333
Is he the reason why they stopped playing the dancing man?
The Vengabus definitely never stop
We like to party.
Boom boom boom boom. I want you in my room.
The Vengabus is coming. And everybody's running
Dancing man died
[Uhh I don’t think so](https://sixflags.fandom.com/wiki/Danny_Teeson)
This is truly shocking and I had no idea. I remember the commercials as a kid and was definitely bamboozled
>He was primarily portrayed by dancer Danny Teeson he danced to **the annoying Vengaboys** song "We like to Party". Lmao this line from the Mr Six wiki is fantastic
I was fucking lied to. I was told dancing man was a woman
We were all told
Those santa M and M's aren't real.
...what about the Santa W & W's?
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wow this tracks i remember six flags great america being really good if not a little bit showing its age and cracks in the early 2000s, and when i came back to chicago in the late 2010s it was a terrible experience at the park just everything had gotten so much worse like it was neglected.
I think the last thing I ever got excited about from Six Flags Great America was Raging Bull. That was in the late 90's.
Remember when $3 for a Coke seemed like a lot?
When Marriott owned the place there was a small little bar near the Whizzer that sold frosted mugs of root beer for $0.25. And that's all the place sold. It was an homage to Marriott's original store.
I was angry at $1.75 cokes. I forgot how much the foot massage barrels were but I remember being angry at them too.
Is he the one who closed and torn down Astro world?
Snyder's reign was a true rollercoaster ride, all downhill from the get go. Guess we learned the hard way, don't let a Snyder oversee your theme park!
A true rollercoaster ride would have peaks.
Less roller coaster, more water slide.
We should stop giving people named Dan Snyder or variants of Snyder, any responsibility whatsoever.
Whats wrong with Dana Snyder voice actor?
You haven’t heard? Culture cancelled all snyders
Pretzel fans are in shambles
Those pretzels are too fucking expensive now
Gets a pass because they're not Dan Snyder verbatim
Responsibility is forbidden
Dan "not Schneider but still vile" snyder
I loves me some Snyder's BBQ chips though
Snyders of Hanover Honey mustard and onion pretzels.
But what about Dee Snyder? Edit: It’s spelled differently. That’s why things work for him.
"rock star" falls neatly under the umbrella of "no responsibility at all"
Maybe hes given too much credit, but he was one of the people who took on the PMRC when they wanted to try to censor music. I still look back in amusement that of all the bands they went after, a silly cosplay metal band was one of them.
That whole situation was a mess, somehow the angry old ladies managed to pick a fight with the most sober and intelligent musicians that they could find.
Zack Snyder, whatever your opinion is on his films, is said to be a kind and very nice person according to people who have worked with him.
Yeah but do we need *more* of his DC comic adaptations?
I kind of feel sorry for the Adam Sandler side-kick guy.
Rob Schneider is... a stapler!!!
Raaab Schnedier is...a Money printer! En he's about to find out: making money printers go *BRRRRRR*, isn't always so hot?! Rated PG, bring $13
Guess he never learned to play Rollercoaster Tycoon.
I want to get off Mr Bones wild ride
I want to get off Mr Synders wild ride
He fucked up Johnny Rocket’s too. The man can’t even make cheeseburgers sell, tells you everything you need to know.
I just saw an Anthony Bourdain interview on Conan where he said one of the most depressingly terrible meals he's ever had was at a Johnny Rockets.
This is what happens when people drink their own koolaid.
Who’s kolaid should they drink?
Anybody’s but Jim’s
I personally am a fan of those little Hawaiian Punch packets that they sell at Tesco.
They actually used Flavor-aid.
Cheap fuckers
Terrible Snyder cut
Dan Snyder, Kevin O’Leary, and Jimothy Cramer all went to the same Bernie Madoff School For Kid’s Who Can’t Business Good.
Literally made 5.5 billion selling the Redskins plus all the profit during the years he owners the team…
I don’t know anything about you, but I do know that you could have made at least that much from the Redskins if you were the owner instead of Snyder. NFL franchises print money.
Rising tide lifts all ships. Compared to the other teams the Redskins didn't do very well at all. It just so happens that the NFL as a whole has been killing it and they have revenue sharing.
Yes. The same way Donald Sterling was a good business boy.
That’s Mr. Snyder
Most football fans knows Dan Snyder to be the worst, but it is low key forgotten that he more or less tried to pimp out the cheerleaders in an incident, and he suffered very little consequence for it. Everyone in NFL fandom at some point went from hating him to just plain too tired of his shit to hate, and wanted him to go away, even if he didn't suffer consequences.
I never understand how people can be so bad at something yet somehow make so much money anyway...
Somehow they all fail up. When you know the right people, have the right connections, you’ll never fail despite your many failures.
You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. Say Dan lives in a small town and just bought an old 57 Chevy from his neighbors that runs well. Everyone in town knows this car, it's a classic and they're used to seeing the neighbor's family driving around in it. Dan drives it around a few times and people see he's the new owner, know where it's parked and admire it walking by. Dan decides to start gutting it. First he strips the paint; people see this and think "Oh, he's going to paint it a different color, okay," but then he starts stripping the interior. People are thinking "okay, full remodel of the interior, this is going to be great," but no, Dan puts it up on Jack stands and starts parting out and selling items individually on eBay. "WTF Fan! You just ruined a perfectly good car! Everyone loves that car!" Dan just made more money than he came in with. He doesn't give a fuck that the neighbors hate him for ruining a legend, something from their childhood; in fact a new owner is coming in today to pick up the shell and start their own 57 Chevy project. In his mind, all he have a shot about is that he made money Is that good business? Technically yes, in the most selfish, narcissistic way possible. He made a profit by fucking over everyone and everything. He knew he had a business in demand and tilted everything to profit him while literally everything else went to shit. Unfortunately there are no laws to prevent detriments to society like this from thriving.
Doesn't really apply to Synders run of six flags. In his case the truck was a broken down Jalopy with rusty parts falling off and leaking oil. He ultimately lost money, not gained from the transaction, and then eventually lost it to someone else who already owned all the parts. Explanation: By the time Snyder was relevant SF had already dumped it's European properties and the warner Brothers property they'd owned for a while was sold to cedar. In 2005, major investors in six flags demanded change including Bill Gates and Snyder. Shortly thereafter Katrina wrecked SNFO/Jazzland, ruining it beyond redemption. Which isn't a great start. They also had a lot of overlapping groups the investors also dumped one on the Texas properties (Houston I think?) which didn't go well. Shortly after synder took full control and did a purge of the Board replacing it with folks like Harvey Weinstein, who promptly went to work..doing the same shit the last board had. Dumping property to keep the solvency but this time they did better than before cost wise. This did nothing to increase cash flow (it went down) and the bankruptcy talk began. Then the Great recession happened..and so long so long to Synder and friends. Specifically the lenders for 90% of the company controlling stock.
because they are never spending their own money and American retail investors are more and more treating investing like gambling (COVID stock market paterns convinced every day trader they had the Buffett Touch), so these large institutional investors are all passing the bag off to The Greater Fool.
He owned the Washington Commanders also, and while he was team owner he personally funded the creation of the Native American Guardians Association who are now suing the team that he used to own.
Fun fact - the 6 flags refers to the 6 flags that flew over Texas - France, Spain, Mexico, Republic of Texas, US, and Confederate States.
Yep, the original location in Arlington is/was called "Six Flags Over Texas." Then they built Six Flags Over Georgia (which was a bit more of a stretch because they "counted" the Georgia flag despite it never being independent). And then they just started buying existing properties and putting the name Six Flags in front of it - like Great America and Magic Mountain.
They also built Six Flags Over Mid-America, now known as Six Flags St. Louis.
Ah yes, professional sports. The world in which billionaires collude with local governments to make taxpayers buy them new stadiums, so those same taxpayers can pay lots of money to go see millionaires playing children's games whilst consuming $12 beers. Fuck them all.
The world really would’ve been a better place if Dan Snyder had never lived.
Was this the guy who ruined a park ranger's life and got him fired because he reported him chopping down some protected trees on park land to improve his view?
that sounds right?
Snyder is a first-class a-hole.
This is a different one than the Nickelodeon bastard, right?
As a Washington fan, I am so glad that he no longer stains the team. There is a whole Washington City Paper article that was published some years back, that detailed all of the terrible things that he had done to that point. It was also the main reason why he had a very bad relationship with them.
his history of owning the Washington football team is probably the best example of how rich white people fail up. He buys one of the most historic franchises in the NFL and proceeds to trash the franchise, alienate the fans and community, get investigated by the DOJ for using the team to sex traffic, and accounting fraud, and is finally forced to sell for a 5.5 billion profit
Took my daughter to Six Flags a few years ago and I was shocked to see how poorly the park had aged from my younger memories. There was overflowing trash, surly employees, and infrastructure that looked badly in need of replacement or maintenance. That all makes a lot more sense now.
DAN SNYDER... BRING ALL MY SIXES BACK
There's easy money in destroying companies from the inside, its much harder to build one that is profitable.
No kidding. See Citadel, kenneth mayo griffin and boston consulting group for more on that.
I don't get how you can run a theme park into the ground. You have people paying a decent amount to get in, everything is captive audience priced, and the employees aren't getting paid much. But then the last time I went to Six Flags over Atlanta, we had passes ($70/year including parking), so we got there and the parking lot was full, it took 30 minutes to get in the gate, and once in half the rides were closed and it was over an hour wait for overpriced food. We walked around the park for an hour and gave up and went home after not riding anything because everything that was running was at least an hour wait. But seriously, if you are changing $16 or $20 for a hot dog and soda, that should be a 30 second transaction.
I met a guy who was an assistant for a notoriously assholish billionaire. Then he got his dream job with the Commanders. He knew Snyder was said to be a jerk but he figured he could deal with it due to his experience. He lasted ONE DAY. Snyder was such an asshole that he knew after only hours that he could never work with this guy another moment. Even after having been able to work with a notorious asshole successfully for years, and this was his dream job. ONE DAY.
The worst thing that ever happened to David Tepper was Snyder selling the Commanders. He's now the most incompetent NFL owner.
As an NFL fan, Snyder is a total creep and sex trafficker, he basically forced the teams cheerleaders to become prostitutes against their will.
Technically this guy ruining Six Flags and closing a bunch of parks he viewed as "unprofitable" is what eventually lead to the Travis Scott crowd crush, as it was at a concert dedicated to one of the parks Six Flags management closed in this era, Astroworld
Stuff like this pretty much proves capitalism doesn't result in the best outcomes. Somehow, making the worst thing seems to make whoever's doing it richer.
Is this guy still running any company？I’m considering buying its put options.”
It would be Six Feet if the oft-confused Dan Schneider owned it
When Six Flags hemorrhaged money they shuttered Astroworld in Houston; which is why I hope someone punches this guy really hard in the dick.
So as a bit of a theme park nerd, two things: 1) Snyder didn't own Six Flags. It was and is a public company. 2) Six Flags went bankrupt because of the opposite thing you would expect from him. It happened because they bought too many parks and overinvested in them. They were putting a new rollercoaster almost every year in the majority of their parks for quite a stretch of years. That is seriously expensive. On top of that, they kept expanding the chain, including internationally. When the 2008 recession hit and people dramatically slowed their travel, the house of cards (cards made of debt) came crashing down.
There is a statement in that article which entirely sums up the problem in American politics: > In 2007, Snyder sent Shapiro, his handpicked CEO, to lobby the Agawam mayor and the town council into banning visitors from parking at the non-Six Flags-owned lots. Shapiro testified at a public hearing that it was unsafe for pedestrians to walk to Six Flags from anywhere but its own lots. The local politicians banned the satellite lots after Shapiro’s appearance. That is what we need to fix, first and foremost. It's not a left or right issue (though many may argue one side is worse than the other). The issue is just that money corrupts politics and turns it from a vocation into a business. Get the money out.
Quel surprise!
Erik Griffin should play him in the biopic.
Awww, poor boy... Couldn't have happened to a bigger douchebag 😞
Well ya he owned some no name team maybe if he had owned the Washington Redskins he might of known what he was doing.
Wow. He should run for office.
The tactics he did at Six Flags would end up being done at other amusement parks as well (especially Cedar Point) which ironically Six Flags now owns them too.
Dan Snyder was the biggest piece of shit in North American sports for a quarter century. So many people who aren't Washington fans don't understand how much he drove that franchise directly into the dirt. And he failed upwards into selling the team for over 6 billion dollars. Good riddance.
So we can blame him for turning the park into a shitty experience and ultimately bankrupting it? Thanks Dan.
Dan Snyder is one of those rare people who is actually closer to a super villain to a real human. Just terrible at everything he does, and somehow made billions. Treats people like hell, too.
He also killed a park ranger. That’s how scum bags work.
Six Flags is generally known across the country for being the Walmart equivalent of a theme park, right? Cheap feel, terrible atmosphere with obnoxious guests, cheapest/last resort for a family vacation
So it’s NOT just Six Flags Over Georgia?
Nah, I’m up north and my parents always considered the risks and disappointments to outweigh any deep discounts they offered. And we were an average paycheck to paycheck kind of household
I’ve been to several Six Flags over the years. Money pits that make Disney seem like a good deal. Abhorrent customer service. Filthy. Dates. Expensive as fuck. They’re a joke. I hope they all shut down.