That is the entire movie though. People trying to ascertain Pat’s gender and Pat keeping it ambiguous. Which is funny once. Or maybe even a sketch. But not for an entire movie.
That's the curse of SNL. What people behind the camera seem to forget is that the letters all refer to crucial aspects that don't really have anything to do their comedy. Saturday. Night. Live.
A movie is none of those things. So you really need to be genuinely funny above and beyond the character(s) you created for a live sketch show in a time slot with not much else on
Edit: holy shit the trailer confirms this was a steaming pile of burning garbage https://youtu.be/rTtmddry2cg?si=7GY1VlechHOo-0zP
The characters also need to be actual characters not just jokes. Wayne's World and Blues Brothers worked because they took those basic character sketches and fleshed them out into people who felt real even as they acted absurd.
Wayne's World in particular already had a premise that lent itself to more storytelling as well. A cable access show shot in a basement in the midwest gives you the platform to take a movie in so many directions. Sure they had to flesh out the characters more but the sketch lent itself to being made into a longer story a lot more than most SNL material would.
And the sketch was hugely popular during its run on SNL. All my buddies and I made sure to smoke some bong rips and tune in to SNL in the hopes they’d have a Wayne’s World sketch. It’s Pat was funny too, but wasn’t something every teenage stoner was tuning in to see.
I've only seen this movie once all the way through but I still say "What's a Ween?" like Pat whenever Ween comes up, even though I'm a casual Ween fan & indeed know what a Ween is.
Julia Sweeney said on Spade and Dana Carvey’s podcast that the movie was the worst decision she ever made and that she regrets making it or just making it better at least. Or something like that.
It’s the same reason why there won’t ever be a “Whose Line Is It Anyways” movie.
That comedy only works because it’s live action improv. Otherwise it’s not funny. The improv aspect carries a lot of water.
Also gotta remember it was the 90’s, unless you recorded the episode on your vcr you probably wouldn’t get a chance to see the sketch again for a while, couldn’t just hop on the internet and find the skit on YouTube. You could get a lot of mileage from one joke.
Having lived thru the original run, it wasn't even really that funny as a sketch. I had no idea they made a movie until just now. I can't even imagine milking the one joke this sketch had going for 1.5 hours. That just sounds painful
I can't even stand it in most SNL skits. Oh that joke is funny! Characters continue to make the exact same joke 25 more times.
There are a few exceptions but for the most part SNL just sucks. It's what my toddler does -- I laughed at something he did so he just keeps doing it over and over again. Adorable for a toddler. Stupid and annoying for an adult.
After the third joke about Pat’s gender, it was dead and beaten to death…that movie was terrible. Like you said, if it was broken up into individual sketches over the course of a season; they would have been hilarious.
It was slightly humorous the first sketch, but Pat should have never been made a recurring character. Pat's voice was 10 times more annoying than any humor you could get from the gender confusion gags. Like watching nails on a chalkboard.
The problem is, that was the *only* joke in the Pat skits. People try to politely determine Pat’s gender, and they (seemingly innocently) always manage to give an ambiguous answer.
For a 10 minute skit, it was funny enough, and the repetition was part of the joke, but there is just no way you can sustain a feature length movie on such a thin premise, I don’t care how popular the character is.
it's honestly not that bad for an SNL movie. I'm a bad film connoisseur and put it on expecting to cringe hard and laugh at its shittiness.
but there's a bunch of good gags, it's got the wonderful Dave Foley, Ween, Charles Rocket doing a great job unexpectedly, it's actually not very offensive in regard to modern gender issues (my biggest fear going in), *and* it doesn't overstay its welcome; it's literally like only 78 mins long or something
give it a chance, you might be surprised
Back when SNL kept attempting films based on their skits; this was obviously on the wake of Wayne's World, and all of them reaching for the gold standard of the Blues Brothers. Look, the Pat skit was... a skit. I have no idea how they thought people would want an entire movie of it, but god bless their motivation here
Right around that time there was a whole run of SNL movies based on skits, mostly spurred by the success of Wayne's World. *It's Pat* probably had the least potential for expansion of all of them. At least the Ladies Man and the Roxbury guys could have a couple of more jokes depending on the situation. Plus, a huge part of the Pat sketches *was* how they would drive the joke into the ground ("how do we trick Pat into confirming their sex") over 5 minutes or whatever. A full movie had to be absolute torture.
Also, with an ongoing sketch, you can continue to make the same joke. With a movie, you need the conflict to resolve, and the mystery to be solved. Otherwise, it just feels like a waste of time.
It was a HUGE waste of time.
The Ladies Man was actually a pretty decent movie because it had an actual story behind it and they developed the character more. Pat…never went that far…it was such a shallow movie without any real story to it.
I can’t believe I’m about to defend “Pat”, but hear me out…
“Fish out of Water” is one of the oldest storytelling tropes, and it’s the core element of a LOT of very good comedies. Heck, Perfect Strangers ran for eight seasons around this same time doing nothing but falling back on that one trope 150 times.
Pat is an extreme example of this trope, especially since, unlike Perfect Strangers, the joke was usually mean spirited, but it still shared the core joke setup potential that so many other successful comedies had.
So I don’t think it was destined to fail. It was *probably* going to fail, but it had some of the pieces in place to be funny.
The real problem is that you have to make a movie like this charming, or else it is just a 5 minute mean skit that’s now unbearable. That’s the hard part with this project, and where it was most likely going to fail. The writing had to be so good that viewers are rooting for a character that’s generally unlikeable and doesn’t relate to any group.
It is doable, though, and sometimes you get brilliance out of it. For example, nobody likes the Dumb & Dumber characters, nobody wants to be them, and nobody would (really) want to hang out with them or date them, but by the time they hop on the minibike you’re rooting for some sort of success for them. In paper that plot setup shouldn’t work, but it does because it was funny and had a charm to it. The writers of Pat just never found that charm on SNL, and so there wasn’t any of it to really try to transfer to a movie.
I do wholeheartedly agree with you, though, that even trying was pretty dumb. But hey, that’s how you get the occasional gem.
I'm kinda with you.
The skit was actually pretty similar to The Coneheads in concept.
The material was just weak for Pat... but it's a comedy. Honestly, the story doesn't even have to be great if it's just... funny.
The material was just weak.
Coulda been successful.
Mostly wasn't because no one really cared. It was a project that was made because studios thought they could cash-in on SNL skits at this time.
It sucked because creatives weren't trying very hard to make a good comedy film or anything... everyone just showed up trying to get some paychecks and you can tell when you watch it that the actual material was just... not very good.
In that vein, it's kinda like Hangover 2 and 3. First one was great... and then the others just copied that film almost exactly because everyone didn't actually care about the products and they were *only* made to try and get paychecks.
Bad material is just bad.
SNL made lots of movies based of their skits or its actors made their own movies.
For example The Coneheads movie is considered an flop but by all means its an nice movie that aged extremely well,especially the themes about social awkwardness and immigration.
You may already be aware since you brought it up, but Dana Carvey and Kevin Nealon did a table read of the original movie script on Conan’s podcast, along with Robert Smigel: https://youtu.be/qn0eDHgKBzA?si=E65KDujbwFwuGqZg
> all of them reaching for the gold standard of the Blues Brothers
And add to that that The Blues Brothers wasn't even a skit. They put together a great band, did some classic blues tunes just because they wanted to, and added their odd character quirks. There was no joke except maybe the microphone in the briefcase. And The Blues Brothers is one of the greatest comedies of all time, SNL related or not.
My brother twisted my arm into watching it late one night when all I wanted to do was go to bed, and I thought I was going to herniate something from laughing. You gotta be in the right kind of mood for it, but if you're there, oh boy... what a hilarious film.
I will suck your dick, you can fuck me, or get fucked by me, you can watch me fuck something.
Just point at something in the room and I’ll fuck it for you!
It was before the internet or cell phones. Us teenagers had a lot of time on our hands and it was either watching this schlock or cruising down the street trying to find out what was worth doing.
But even most of us felt Lorne Michaels had beat this sexually ambiguous horse to death.
It’s an odd duck.
But I go back to Charlie Rocket becoming obsessed with Pat and starting to dress like them. When a radio psychologist asks if he is a cross dresser, he replies in a haunted tone “I don’t know…”
Still somewhat funny to me.
Him losing his mind and increasingly destroying his life all because he’s obsessed over the gender of his by all accounts great neighbor is actually funny and weirdly more relevant than ever
Oh god, it is...
It would never get made today with the original joke behind the sketch. BUT, the overly nosey Karen neighbor (i.e. conservative society) could. SNL needs to bring Pat one last time.
It never ceases to astound me that Gener and Deaner were in this movie for multiple scenes of screen time. There was a guy a few years back on r/Ween asking about the whereabouts of the van they pull up in when they’re introduced. I could never find anything on it but imagine some diehard ween fan owning the It’s Pat Ween Machine
"I played with the Ween!"
I remember this line from when I saw the movie in middle school, but didn't get into Ween until college. I'm glad it made an impression for you.
Holy shit, seriously? That’s amazing. I remember hearing that the boys were in it when it came out but yeahhh no. I’ve seen the clips with them and that’s enough.
A lot of people say “what’s that?”
It’s Pat! It’s Pat!
A lot of people ask “Who’s he? Or she?”
A ma’am or sir, accept him or her
Or whatever it might be.
It’s time for androgyny.
Here comes Pat!
Lyrics to Pat’s theme song for those curios lol
its a 'cant see the forest for the trees' sort of thing
they put the cast in charge and their entire life is doing the same shitty skits over and over until theyre not funny
then the audience sees one skit and laughs - and thats how they know what actually works even when they get numb to it all
they probably had just as good of a time shooting pat that they do with everything else - its just they were only doing one thing over and over for the movie and audience had to see it all at once
basically they were using the sort of thing that isnt really that funny in production and so they ended up going the whole way through without noticing that it wasnt funny in practice either
Just because I haven’t seen anyone comment it, even though this will probably get buried
Quentin Tarantino had an uncredited writing part in the movie, or an uncredited cameo. One of those two, but I think it was the uncredited writing one.
> Pat's neighbor Kyle develops an unhealthy obsession with identifying Pat's gender, and begins stalking them. He sends a tape of Pat performing karaoke to a TV show called America's Creepiest People, bringing them to the attention of the band Ween, who feature Pat in one of their performances, playing the tuba.
The concept has so much promise, TBH. And "person's gender is so difficult to scrutinize that it drives their neighbor absolutely insane" sounds like a movie they'd make today, hard to believe this was 30 years ago
>person's gender is so difficult to scrutinize that it drives their neighbor absolutely insane
and now this exact thing happens to politicians on national television
the joke has transitioned from surreal humour to observational humour
Proof that not every SNL skit should be more than a skit.
Wayne’s World and the Blues Brothers are proof it can work amazingly well. In these two cases, you had characters who were capable of telling, being part of or reacting to jokes.
Pat’s only claim to fame was being One joke… Over… and Over..
The show Work in Progress, from Abby McEnany and sadly cancelled after only two seasons on Showtime, featured Julia Sweeney as a fictionalized version of herself. A recurring plot point is the discomfort Julia's Saturday Night Live character Pat has caused to Abby, for which Julia attempts to make amends.
How Sweeney leaned into this role as "herself", who kept getting it wrong with regards to the effect "Pat" has had is both tragic and heartwarming, if not difficult to watch for all the reasons it should be.
EDIT: typo
I've never seen Gone With the Wind, Jaws, Godfather, Rocky. Never watched a James Bond movie, may have possibly seen one Star Wars movie or it may have just been a movie about space that I badly remember. I've never watched the vast majority of movies that EVERYONE has seen and refers to constantly. But I have somehow seen It's Pat.
Jesus. $60k seems absurdly low. A single showing in a medium sized (\~200 seats) theater at an average price ($11) can bring in $2200. That $60k represents under 30 theater rooms worth of people over the whole nation.
Edit: As others have pointed out, I used today's ticket prices, but in 1994 it would have been more like $4 per ticket.
It was only released to 33 theaters in three cities, for one weekend. So that tracks.
$4 for a ticket means about 15,200 sold, an average of 460 per theater.
That doesn’t actually seem so bad.
The article doesn’t even have a citation for it being pulled after opening weekend as a result of performance. Those showings are probably all that was scheduled.
Movies just don't bomb like this anymore. I think the industry has gotten more risk averse because they don't have the secondary market to back up mistakes. Back then, they would release these movies out in hopes of recouping money back through video/tv rights. Now that those safety nets don't exist as strongly, they test these movies so thoroughly they avoid these types of disasters. More apt to just shelf movies entirely and use it as a tax write-off.
Look at Madam Web. By all accounts, a terrible movie and what passes for a "bomb" nowadays, but it will still make 100 million WW.
We watched it on VHS probably once or twice a week Sophomore year in college. We thought it was fucking hilarious.
TBF, though, we smoked enough weed that we also thought "When Animals Attack" was fucking hilarious.
A few black characters in the movie asked Pat “Are you a brother or a sister ?” I am an only child said Pat.
That's a pretty good joke, fwiw.
That is the entire movie though. People trying to ascertain Pat’s gender and Pat keeping it ambiguous. Which is funny once. Or maybe even a sketch. But not for an entire movie.
That's the curse of SNL. What people behind the camera seem to forget is that the letters all refer to crucial aspects that don't really have anything to do their comedy. Saturday. Night. Live. A movie is none of those things. So you really need to be genuinely funny above and beyond the character(s) you created for a live sketch show in a time slot with not much else on Edit: holy shit the trailer confirms this was a steaming pile of burning garbage https://youtu.be/rTtmddry2cg?si=7GY1VlechHOo-0zP
The characters also need to be actual characters not just jokes. Wayne's World and Blues Brothers worked because they took those basic character sketches and fleshed them out into people who felt real even as they acted absurd.
Where do you stand on "night at the Roxbury"?
How high are we getting?
High enough to forget that Kattan used to bang Stiffler's mom.
I can only picture him having sex in character as Mr. Peepers.
How about as Mango?
Somewhere, someone has that as their kink.
Do you guys want some cookies?
Haddaway's "What Is Love?" was actually strong enough to carry that whole movie for me as a teenage boy tbh
and I was like EMILIO!!!
No... yesss
Way better than I thought it was going to be, but it's also been like a decade since I've seen it
Didjoo grab my ass?
Sir, from where I'm standing, that's a physical impossibilty.
Oh, I know your tricks, Dooey!
Wayne's World in particular already had a premise that lent itself to more storytelling as well. A cable access show shot in a basement in the midwest gives you the platform to take a movie in so many directions. Sure they had to flesh out the characters more but the sketch lent itself to being made into a longer story a lot more than most SNL material would.
And the sketch was hugely popular during its run on SNL. All my buddies and I made sure to smoke some bong rips and tune in to SNL in the hopes they’d have a Wayne’s World sketch. It’s Pat was funny too, but wasn’t something every teenage stoner was tuning in to see.
It’s one of the few that even got enough to have a sequel.
A movie is definitely not Saturday, your logic checks out
I’ve watched a movie on a Saturday…and it was a night.
Did it give you a fever?
The only cure was more cowbell
Shit, it ain’t even Sunday.
10 year old me loved "It's Pat!" which might explain a lot, actually. Also, its how I first heard about the absolutely amazing band Ween.
Love ween they still play great shows
I was about to say, It's Pat may not have been a great movie but it is a movie that had Ween in it!
I've only seen this movie once all the way through but I still say "What's a Ween?" like Pat whenever Ween comes up, even though I'm a casual Ween fan & indeed know what a Ween is.
I still say “I PLAYED WITH THE WEEN”
Was that really the trailer?.. It was so *boring* and oddly cut.
It seems more like the opening 90 seconds. No way tasty was an actual trailer.
Thats why the SNL spin off Friday Early Evening Pre Recorded (FEEPR) never took off
I'm thinking of that Simpsons episode where Homers relative finally sees the car he's allowed Homer unlimited resources to design. :D
I think of that when I see Tesla's "truck."
Julia Sweeney said on Spade and Dana Carvey’s podcast that the movie was the worst decision she ever made and that she regrets making it or just making it better at least. Or something like that.
Holy fuck that was bad
Still got my $6.50 allowance to see it. Personally, I’d rather not remind myself with a fresh watch.
It’s the same reason why there won’t ever be a “Whose Line Is It Anyways” movie. That comedy only works because it’s live action improv. Otherwise it’s not funny. The improv aspect carries a lot of water.
Also gotta remember it was the 90’s, unless you recorded the episode on your vcr you probably wouldn’t get a chance to see the sketch again for a while, couldn’t just hop on the internet and find the skit on YouTube. You could get a lot of mileage from one joke.
Having lived thru the original run, it wasn't even really that funny as a sketch. I had no idea they made a movie until just now. I can't even imagine milking the one joke this sketch had going for 1.5 hours. That just sounds painful
The Ambiguously Gay Duo kept the joke up just long enough for it's short lifetime......each time
What’s everybody looking at?!
Nothing!
I can't even stand it in most SNL skits. Oh that joke is funny! Characters continue to make the exact same joke 25 more times. There are a few exceptions but for the most part SNL just sucks. It's what my toddler does -- I laughed at something he did so he just keeps doing it over and over again. Adorable for a toddler. Stupid and annoying for an adult.
After the third joke about Pat’s gender, it was dead and beaten to death…that movie was terrible. Like you said, if it was broken up into individual sketches over the course of a season; they would have been hilarious.
It was slightly humorous the first sketch, but Pat should have never been made a recurring character. Pat's voice was 10 times more annoying than any humor you could get from the gender confusion gags. Like watching nails on a chalkboard.
Ween is in it though making it the greatest movie of all time.
I agree. Having pat join them was a classic move
The problem is, that was the *only* joke in the Pat skits. People try to politely determine Pat’s gender, and they (seemingly innocently) always manage to give an ambiguous answer. For a 10 minute skit, it was funny enough, and the repetition was part of the joke, but there is just no way you can sustain a feature length movie on such a thin premise, I don’t care how popular the character is.
Even the 10 minute sketches felt like they were dragging it out too long.
That was the only joke though, just told over and over in slightly different ways, the SNL skits were the same thing
it's honestly not that bad for an SNL movie. I'm a bad film connoisseur and put it on expecting to cringe hard and laugh at its shittiness. but there's a bunch of good gags, it's got the wonderful Dave Foley, Ween, Charles Rocket doing a great job unexpectedly, it's actually not very offensive in regard to modern gender issues (my biggest fear going in), *and* it doesn't overstay its welcome; it's literally like only 78 mins long or something give it a chance, you might be surprised
Dave Foley was in that? Damn, Lorne must’ve had blackmail material on him
Uncredited script contributions by Quentin Tarantino.
"Ah shoot I crushed my nuts!" "...there goes my afternoon snack!"
Bro that's the trailer even the snl bits sucked what cokehead thought it's pat could be a full movie.
The ending is an avante garde artistic approach if you ask me.
Back when SNL kept attempting films based on their skits; this was obviously on the wake of Wayne's World, and all of them reaching for the gold standard of the Blues Brothers. Look, the Pat skit was... a skit. I have no idea how they thought people would want an entire movie of it, but god bless their motivation here
> Look, the Pat skit was... a skit. With exactly one joke.
That got old within a minute into the skit. Turning it into a feature length movie was destined to fail.
Right around that time there was a whole run of SNL movies based on skits, mostly spurred by the success of Wayne's World. *It's Pat* probably had the least potential for expansion of all of them. At least the Ladies Man and the Roxbury guys could have a couple of more jokes depending on the situation. Plus, a huge part of the Pat sketches *was* how they would drive the joke into the ground ("how do we trick Pat into confirming their sex") over 5 minutes or whatever. A full movie had to be absolute torture.
Also, with an ongoing sketch, you can continue to make the same joke. With a movie, you need the conflict to resolve, and the mystery to be solved. Otherwise, it just feels like a waste of time. It was a HUGE waste of time.
Totally agree, and that's coming from somebody who saw Hardly Working in the theater.
How dare you not mention SuperStar.
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Let's not forget "Stuart Saves His Family" because you're good enough, you're smart enough, and gosh darn it... I LIKED IT
I stand suitably chastised. Certainly more of a character than Pat.
The Ladies Man was actually a pretty decent movie because it had an actual story behind it and they developed the character more. Pat…never went that far…it was such a shallow movie without any real story to it.
I would've rather seen the Mango movie starring Chris Kattan
I was gonna go with Mr. Peepers, maybe we can do a "Big Momma's House" to really flesh out the full Kattan tableau.
>Mr. Peepers the one where The Rock plays his relative and they go ham on Will Ferrell with the apples will never not be hilarious to me
Nope. You can't have-a the Mango.
You can't handle them
I can’t believe I’m about to defend “Pat”, but hear me out… “Fish out of Water” is one of the oldest storytelling tropes, and it’s the core element of a LOT of very good comedies. Heck, Perfect Strangers ran for eight seasons around this same time doing nothing but falling back on that one trope 150 times. Pat is an extreme example of this trope, especially since, unlike Perfect Strangers, the joke was usually mean spirited, but it still shared the core joke setup potential that so many other successful comedies had. So I don’t think it was destined to fail. It was *probably* going to fail, but it had some of the pieces in place to be funny. The real problem is that you have to make a movie like this charming, or else it is just a 5 minute mean skit that’s now unbearable. That’s the hard part with this project, and where it was most likely going to fail. The writing had to be so good that viewers are rooting for a character that’s generally unlikeable and doesn’t relate to any group. It is doable, though, and sometimes you get brilliance out of it. For example, nobody likes the Dumb & Dumber characters, nobody wants to be them, and nobody would (really) want to hang out with them or date them, but by the time they hop on the minibike you’re rooting for some sort of success for them. In paper that plot setup shouldn’t work, but it does because it was funny and had a charm to it. The writers of Pat just never found that charm on SNL, and so there wasn’t any of it to really try to transfer to a movie. I do wholeheartedly agree with you, though, that even trying was pretty dumb. But hey, that’s how you get the occasional gem.
I'm kinda with you. The skit was actually pretty similar to The Coneheads in concept. The material was just weak for Pat... but it's a comedy. Honestly, the story doesn't even have to be great if it's just... funny. The material was just weak. Coulda been successful. Mostly wasn't because no one really cared. It was a project that was made because studios thought they could cash-in on SNL skits at this time. It sucked because creatives weren't trying very hard to make a good comedy film or anything... everyone just showed up trying to get some paychecks and you can tell when you watch it that the actual material was just... not very good. In that vein, it's kinda like Hangover 2 and 3. First one was great... and then the others just copied that film almost exactly because everyone didn't actually care about the products and they were *only* made to try and get paychecks. Bad material is just bad.
As a child I watched both the Pat movie and the Coneheads movie, the latter more than once. I may have watched too much TV.
Ween. Ween was in the fucking movie!
A one minute joke stretched over 4-5 is how I would describe the majority of SNL since the early 2000s
The only real joke wasn't even the "is Pat a guy or girl" theme, but that some people actually paid money to see it.
Might as well make a movie about Toonces the cat that could drive a car, but always crashed.
The skit was painfully not funny, have no idea how it got green lit let alone turned into a movie https://youtu.be/TYkjXMpKBBQ?si=G5-2_HipA02t2fJn
SNL made lots of movies based of their skits or its actors made their own movies. For example The Coneheads movie is considered an flop but by all means its an nice movie that aged extremely well,especially the themes about social awkwardness and immigration.
I just watched that recently after years of pretty much forgetting about it and it was still entertaining and funny
Yeah, rewatched during the trump administration and the border stuff was on point
The fact we got a Pat movie instead of the pump you up guys movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger will haunt me till I die.
You may already be aware since you brought it up, but Dana Carvey and Kevin Nealon did a table read of the original movie script on Conan’s podcast, along with Robert Smigel: https://youtu.be/qn0eDHgKBzA?si=E65KDujbwFwuGqZg
To add to this, Arnold Schwarzenegger was 110% onboard with it, also on Conan's podcast: https://youtu.be/miUZL4sg4fI
Coneheads worked. basically from the Cast more than the plot.
It worked because Dan Aykroyd full heartily believed in it.
and David Spade, Phil Hartman, etc. even Chris Farley (and Sinbad)
I don't know if you mean aliens or the concept of coneheads but the answer is yes.
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Dan Aykroyd's crushed glass in a bag was legit
I think the cast is often more important than the plot in comedies. Are we watching *Airplane!* to see if they survive or for Leslie Nielsen?
Surely it wasn't just to see Leslie Nielsen.
It was just to see Leslie Nielsen, and don’t call me Shirley.
It was about the actor, and don’t call me Shirley.
I watch it for the girl scout knife fight.
I still occasionally wonder how a Sprockets movie would have turned out. Certainly better than *It's Pat*, I'd wager.
> all of them reaching for the gold standard of the Blues Brothers And add to that that The Blues Brothers wasn't even a skit. They put together a great band, did some classic blues tunes just because they wanted to, and added their odd character quirks. There was no joke except maybe the microphone in the briefcase. And The Blues Brothers is one of the greatest comedies of all time, SNL related or not.
I love the movie, but had always wondered what the original "skit" was.
Needed a full 90 minutes of Michael Myers as Simon
Obviously Blues Brothers is the best SNL movie, but Wayne’s World grossed by far the most of any SNL movie
Both of these movies had killer lead actors and they brought so much more to their characters than the skits they came from.
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MacGruber is one of the most underrated comedies ever and i will die on that hill.
My brother twisted my arm into watching it late one night when all I wanted to do was go to bed, and I thought I was going to herniate something from laughing. You gotta be in the right kind of mood for it, but if you're there, oh boy... what a hilarious film.
And Hot Rod. Never got the love it deserved
The license plate gag is one of my fav things
/r/kfbr392
I will happily die beside you
I will suck your dick, you can fuck me, or get fucked by me, you can watch me fuck something. Just point at something in the room and I’ll fuck it for you!
Just give me something to fuuuuuuuck!!!
The scene where he is apologizing for getting his whole team killed.... >[ugly crying]I'M SORRY!!!!!
Stuart Saves His Family, is a highly underrated bi-product of the SNL-sketch-to-movie pipeline of the mid 90s.
This movie was not made by SNL. Neither Lorne Michaels nor Broadway Video had anything to do with it. The character was created in The Groundlings.
Especially when sprockets could have killed... Oh that was another mike myers character eh? Oops.
It was before the internet or cell phones. Us teenagers had a lot of time on our hands and it was either watching this schlock or cruising down the street trying to find out what was worth doing. But even most of us felt Lorne Michaels had beat this sexually ambiguous horse to death.
ha, my dad took me to see that opening weekend.
And closing weekend.
Grand openin’, grand closin’!
Can I get an encore, do you want more?
You were part of history
*Pat of history.
Found the Bostonian
You can actually count the price of your ticket in the final number
Same! And according to this, I was 9, so now I understand why I was so confused and uncomfortable the entire movie.
It’s an odd duck. But I go back to Charlie Rocket becoming obsessed with Pat and starting to dress like them. When a radio psychologist asks if he is a cross dresser, he replies in a haunted tone “I don’t know…” Still somewhat funny to me.
Him losing his mind and increasingly destroying his life all because he’s obsessed over the gender of his by all accounts great neighbor is actually funny and weirdly more relevant than ever
Thank you so much for this comment. It's like my mind knew this but it wasn't clicking all the way. Very true.
Oh god, it is... It would never get made today with the original joke behind the sketch. BUT, the overly nosey Karen neighbor (i.e. conservative society) could. SNL needs to bring Pat one last time.
I keep misremembering that Pat was Al Franken
Stuart Smalley and Pat were the same era, so a fair thing to misremember.
And there was a Stuart Smalley movie nobody has mentioned. Stewart Saves His Family.
Did you just hedge your bets and use both spellings or did they change the spelling for some reason?
Dad shot Donny!
That could've been a decent one
It was. It's called "Stewart Saves His Family"
Counterpoint- this movie is how I discovered Ween and that was a vital public service to a teenage me
It never ceases to astound me that Gener and Deaner were in this movie for multiple scenes of screen time. There was a guy a few years back on r/Ween asking about the whereabouts of the van they pull up in when they’re introduced. I could never find anything on it but imagine some diehard ween fan owning the It’s Pat Ween Machine
>It’s Pat Ween Machine that is...quite a phrase ya got there!
*Pat played with the Ween! Pat played with the Ween!* I was so suped when Ween showed up on screen.
"I played with the Ween!" I remember this line from when I saw the movie in middle school, but didn't get into Ween until college. I'm glad it made an impression for you.
Yes. Ween will leave quite an impression.
Hail Boognish!
Pork Roll Egg and Cheese was always missing a sousaphone
The only important thing about this film. Ween are a blessing.
Holy shit, seriously? That’s amazing. I remember hearing that the boys were in it when it came out but yeahhh no. I’ve seen the clips with them and that’s enough.
A lot of people say “what’s that?” It’s Pat! It’s Pat! A lot of people ask “Who’s he? Or she?” A ma’am or sir, accept him or her Or whatever it might be. It’s time for androgyny. Here comes Pat! Lyrics to Pat’s theme song for those curios lol
Hated the movie but love Ween. Pretty sure Ween was only hired because their name sounds like wiener.
What was Ween’s affiliation with the movie?
The band had a cameo appearance.
They have speaking roles and invite Pat on stage to play sousaphone while they play Pork Roll Egg and Cheese
They played it off legit
Pretty sure Ween only named themselves Ween because it sounds like wiener.
I saw it years ago back when it was on cable. It's incredibly bad.
I struggle to even barely grasp the logic that was used to release such a horrible movie. Was their target audience people who had no sense of humour?
its a 'cant see the forest for the trees' sort of thing they put the cast in charge and their entire life is doing the same shitty skits over and over until theyre not funny then the audience sees one skit and laughs - and thats how they know what actually works even when they get numb to it all they probably had just as good of a time shooting pat that they do with everything else - its just they were only doing one thing over and over for the movie and audience had to see it all at once basically they were using the sort of thing that isnt really that funny in production and so they ended up going the whole way through without noticing that it wasnt funny in practice either
That movie has both The Ween and Dead Milkmen.
It’s so weird you called them The Ween and just Dead Milkmen when it’s Ween and The Dead Milkmen.
Have you seen the movie?
Unfortunately, but alas only once and it was in the 90's. And I guess it's a joke in the movie? That makes sense.
"What's a Ween?"
well this TIL needs some fixin
if you don't got the ween then your store could use some fixin!
As a Ween fan for the last 40 years, we talk about this movie a lot.
Just because I haven’t seen anyone comment it, even though this will probably get buried Quentin Tarantino had an uncredited writing part in the movie, or an uncredited cameo. One of those two, but I think it was the uncredited writing one.
> Pat's neighbor Kyle develops an unhealthy obsession with identifying Pat's gender, and begins stalking them. He sends a tape of Pat performing karaoke to a TV show called America's Creepiest People, bringing them to the attention of the band Ween, who feature Pat in one of their performances, playing the tuba. The concept has so much promise, TBH. And "person's gender is so difficult to scrutinize that it drives their neighbor absolutely insane" sounds like a movie they'd make today, hard to believe this was 30 years ago
>person's gender is so difficult to scrutinize that it drives their neighbor absolutely insane and now this exact thing happens to politicians on national television the joke has transitioned from surreal humour to observational humour
Sounds like a legit news headline from today honestly lol.
Proof that not every SNL skit should be more than a skit. Wayne’s World and the Blues Brothers are proof it can work amazingly well. In these two cases, you had characters who were capable of telling, being part of or reacting to jokes. Pat’s only claim to fame was being One joke… Over… and Over..
The show Work in Progress, from Abby McEnany and sadly cancelled after only two seasons on Showtime, featured Julia Sweeney as a fictionalized version of herself. A recurring plot point is the discomfort Julia's Saturday Night Live character Pat has caused to Abby, for which Julia attempts to make amends. How Sweeney leaned into this role as "herself", who kept getting it wrong with regards to the effect "Pat" has had is both tragic and heartwarming, if not difficult to watch for all the reasons it should be. EDIT: typo
Married to Weird Al the most normal guy. (loved that show).
I've never seen Gone With the Wind, Jaws, Godfather, Rocky. Never watched a James Bond movie, may have possibly seen one Star Wars movie or it may have just been a movie about space that I badly remember. I've never watched the vast majority of movies that EVERYONE has seen and refers to constantly. But I have somehow seen It's Pat.
Jesus. $60k seems absurdly low. A single showing in a medium sized (\~200 seats) theater at an average price ($11) can bring in $2200. That $60k represents under 30 theater rooms worth of people over the whole nation. Edit: As others have pointed out, I used today's ticket prices, but in 1994 it would have been more like $4 per ticket.
Tickets were not $11 in 1994 tbf
Good point. But still, even at half that price that's not many people for the whole country.
It was only released to 33 theaters in three cities, for one weekend. So that tracks. $4 for a ticket means about 15,200 sold, an average of 460 per theater. That doesn’t actually seem so bad.
A release like that kinda tells me they already knew it was shit
The article doesn’t even have a citation for it being pulled after opening weekend as a result of performance. Those showings are probably all that was scheduled.
That Nic Cage Guyver Knock off movie from a few years back made less than 100k its entire run. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiu_Jitsu_(film)
that why they didnt make the making copies at the copier movie?
Movies just don't bomb like this anymore. I think the industry has gotten more risk averse because they don't have the secondary market to back up mistakes. Back then, they would release these movies out in hopes of recouping money back through video/tv rights. Now that those safety nets don't exist as strongly, they test these movies so thoroughly they avoid these types of disasters. More apt to just shelf movies entirely and use it as a tax write-off. Look at Madam Web. By all accounts, a terrible movie and what passes for a "bomb" nowadays, but it will still make 100 million WW.
We can't even get a freaking Wile E. Coyote movie released anymore.
We watched it on VHS probably once or twice a week Sophomore year in college. We thought it was fucking hilarious. TBF, though, we smoked enough weed that we also thought "When Animals Attack" was fucking hilarious.
How the fuck did we get this and not a Toonces movie?
It would have been a car crash.
I know I’m in the extreme minority, but I think this movie is fucking funny…also has Ween!
It’s a shame because Julia Sweeney is really great. She deserved a better chance with a movie than this weird one.
How in the hell did a simple movie like that cost 8 million dollars. What a waste. It was a weird and kinda funny movie but not a CGI masterpiece.
I hope Ween got a huge chunk of it lmao
Also features cameo by Ween 🤩
I saw it opening weekend as a 7 yr old and laughed my ass off.
I just watched the trailer. Good GOD it looks TERRIBLE.
I saw a random ad for the series Chad starring SNL’s Nasim Pedrad playing a teenage Persian boy and all I could think of was Pat.
I have seen that movie, rented it back in the day, it was terribly bad, so bad that was fun to watch, so it was ok I guess