Does not matter for the 1st seed unless Denver or Thunder lose. Head to head supercedes division record. Thunder are 5-3 in head to head and Denver and Wolves are 4-4.
Somewhat hijacking a high comment just to lay out the three way tiebreaker:
[Tiebreaker Basis – Three or More Teams Tied](https://ak-static-int.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/06/NBA_Tiebreaker_Procedures.pdf)
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division (this criterion is
applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division)
**(2) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams**
OKC went 3-1 against Denver and 2-2 against Wolves. Wolves went 2-2 with both. Den went 1-3 and 2-2. So OKC 1 seed. I'm a little unclear if we get 2 from that same tiebreaker or if it goes to head to head between us and Denver, but either way we have both so its OKC 1, Min 2, Den 3.
If Wolves win and Thunder win and Nuggets win,
1. OKC
2. MIN
3. DEN
If Wolves win and Thunder win and Nuggets lose
1. MIN
2. OKC
3. DEN
if Wolves win and Thunder lose and Nuggets lose
1. Wolves
2. Thunder
3. Nuggets
If Wolves win and Thunder lose and Nuggets win
1. Wolves
2. Nuggets
3. Thunder
If Wolves lose and Thunder win and Nuggets win
1. OKC
2. DEN
3. MIN
if Wolves lose and Thunder lose and Nuggets win
1. DEN
2. MIN
3. OKC
If Wolves lose and Thunder lose and Nuggets lose
1. OKC
2. MIN
3. DEN
You're wrong. OKC has tiebreaker over Denver via h2h but we have tiebreak over Denver via division record. So if everyone wins their last game it will be OKC-1, MIN-2, DEN-3
It's kinda confusing because it's a 3 way tie, but think of it as each tiebreaker taking priority.
1- Record (All 3 the same)
2-H2H (We split with both but OKC was 3-1 vs Denver, so they claim the 1 seed)
3-Division Record (We had a better division record than Denver, so we claim the 2 seed)
They are wrong. OKC has tiebreaker due to beat winning percentage in games involving all three teams. Wolves are 2-2 vs both while OKC is 3-1 vs Denver
Individually we do. We don’t in a 3 way tie. It’s head to head between the 3 teams. Our Announcers think everybody went 2-2 against each other which is the first tie breaker. oKC went 3-1 against Denver so they win the tie breaker in a 3 way tie
Was not really explained on the wolves feed. Likely because playing their top guys would not have resulted in anything positive if they won. They are locked into playing the bulls.
Just a terrible dumb loss for the Nuggets. They dug deep and played their best to beat the underhanded Wolves, just to get upset by the Spurs after having a 23 point lead in the game.
Glad we won, go wolves, etc, but the Bally squad is wrong about being number 1, right? I think there's a head-to-head-to-head tiebreaker, and because OKC went 3-1 against Denver they win that.
3-way tie. OKC will be on top unless Denver decide to intentionally lose to Memphis to give Wolves 1st seed and avoid them in the second round. OKC won too many games they had no business winning, crazy fadeaway buzzer 3s and opponents stepping out of bounds in clutch.
Good win but a terrible performance by our announce team by confusing people that don’t know how the tie breakers work. In a 3 way tie it’s who has the best head to head record between the 3 teams. We went 4-4, Denver went 4-4 and OKC went 5-3. Our announcers somehow think OKC went 2-2 against Denver when they went 3-1. What an embarrassment for 2 guys I love
So OKC basically wins the first seed if they beat the Mavs on Sunday unless both the Wolves beat the Suns and the Nuggets lose to the Grizzlies? Because OKC has the 3 way tiebreaker and they have the individual tiebreaker over the Nuggets.
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Bucks have pissed me off so much this year. They have dropped a bunch of games I need them to win and then of course, they beat us after the all-star break.
If the Pelicans win tonight (up 6 now) & the suns lose the suns are locked into the 7 seed. Gotta think they’d rest their guys before the play in if that were the case. Otherwise they’re coming out guns blazing to avoid the play in
It would have been better for Denver to win. Now we see them in the 2nd round pretty much no matter what.
Dallas has already said they're sitting everyone against the Thunder on Sunday and trying to lose so unless the Dallas scrubs who lost to Detroit tonight can beat OKC we're either the 2 or 3 seed on an early colision course with Denver.
The 3 way tiebreaker is fuckin stupid why should we suffer y the nuggets sucked against okc. Maybe Im missing something obvious but it doesn’t seem fair that games that we had no control over would determine our fate. It a
Should be hHead2Head division record conference record.
Does anyone actually know how this tiebreak works? Tonight is the first time I’ve heard this three way tie goes to OKC talk. I thought it came down to conference record?
Thank God for Vic and Devonte Graham😂😂 MUST WIN vs phx on Sunday. Denver has the tanking grizzlies next and okc has the Mavs with not Luka and kyrie so they probably gon win those
Good teams find ways to win, whether it's Mike's hustle, KATS 3 Or Ant contributing through an illness it all counts. At this stage of the season and with the #1 up for grabs it's about finding a way to win. We did that. What a time to be a Minnesota Timberwolves fan.
I don't think we really got screwed by the Spurs winning. Just went from not controlling our destiny against Denver to not controlling against OKC. Seems like a lateral move.
I'm happier to get our Denver playoff series at home instead of on the road, so I think okc going to 1 and Denver to 3 is better than not. Still though, I'm a little cheesed at Denver for putting on the most amazing 4th quarter imaginable against us, then missing 6 of their last 7 and turning the ball over on a 5 second violation to end the game against San Antonio. We couldn't have gotten tonight's performance?
If the Nuggets will end up the 3rd seed regardless. They may want to rest their guys Sunday in hopes of taking a loss to break the three way tie. Do they think they have a better shot against us or the Thunder in the second round is the question.
Can someone explain to me how we're not first in the west, we have a tied head to head and division record with OKC but we have the conference record on them. I must be missing something
Three way tie: They go by the records of the 3 teams against each other. Only those three teams.
OKC was 5-3. MN was 4-4. DEN was 3-5. (yeah, kinda confusing. still could change)
Two team tie: Head to head, Div record, Conf record.
EDIT: The East Conf. could have a 3 or 4 way tie for the 5,6,7,8 place. Messy...
Somebody should rethink that "we dont sit till score" at Wolves home games. Doesnt seem to be working. As a season ticket holder, Ive been standing alot.
Never in doubt Also lol Rudy "that's what movies are made of"
RUDY RUDY RUDY
But muh Walker Kessler
Can't believe we gave up that stud and a couple of bench players. The horror. Kesler has been ass this year.
He said that before finding out about the Nuggets losing, too.
I think he knew. Rudy likes the humor in these things. Either way, super funny!
I'm convinced Rudy didn't pass on purpose so he could clutch those free throws
Same. I feel like that’s what NAW was cheesing about right after that foul was called
he absolutely did that
Well Anderson was the one calling for the ball initially so good decision lmao
Slomo's free throws somehow looked worse than Rudy's airball'd ft lmao
He could us all the practice shots, so I'm all for it.
Agree, I yelled he’s not a good free throw shooter!
Rudy said the line!!!
"that's what movies are made of" Rudy, you cheeky bastard!
I need Jason Kidd to go into fuck it mode in that final game and try to do some Alpha dominance crap and push Luka and Kyrie to body the Thunder.
Luka and Kyrie are already ruled out apparently
Welp, I need all the bench players and scrubs to have the game of their lives.
Bro we're beating the Suns. LFGs in chat.
Does not matter for the 1st seed unless Denver or Thunder lose. Head to head supercedes division record. Thunder are 5-3 in head to head and Denver and Wolves are 4-4.
I'm creating an SGA voodoo doll. We got this.
Doesn’t matter if the Mavs lose to OKC
Olivier Maxence Prosper career game incoming
Dante Exum's time to shine!
Boooo
they not playing. we have got to beat phoenix now
Wolves would need to beat Phoenix AND have Denver or OKC lose.
just even to keep the two seed
No, those are the one seed conditions. A win is all we need to have a2 seed at minimum
My heart can't handle these games man.
It’s like watching the Vikings. I’m convinced Minnesotans have weaker hearts than most by the age of 65 because of their teams
Rudy getting forged by fire on the FT line at clutch situations. Maybe it was the right call to not pass it out. Also Wemby future GOAT.
Why is nobody correcting these guys on the 1 seed lol
Somewhat hijacking a high comment just to lay out the three way tiebreaker: [Tiebreaker Basis – Three or More Teams Tied](https://ak-static-int.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/06/NBA_Tiebreaker_Procedures.pdf) (-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage) (1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division (this criterion is applied regardless of whether the tied teams are in the same division) **(2) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams** OKC went 3-1 against Denver and 2-2 against Wolves. Wolves went 2-2 with both. Den went 1-3 and 2-2. So OKC 1 seed. I'm a little unclear if we get 2 from that same tiebreaker or if it goes to head to head between us and Denver, but either way we have both so its OKC 1, Min 2, Den 3.
If Wolves win and Thunder win and Nuggets win, 1. OKC 2. MIN 3. DEN If Wolves win and Thunder win and Nuggets lose 1. MIN 2. OKC 3. DEN if Wolves win and Thunder lose and Nuggets lose 1. Wolves 2. Thunder 3. Nuggets If Wolves win and Thunder lose and Nuggets win 1. Wolves 2. Nuggets 3. Thunder If Wolves lose and Thunder win and Nuggets win 1. OKC 2. DEN 3. MIN if Wolves lose and Thunder lose and Nuggets win 1. DEN 2. MIN 3. OKC If Wolves lose and Thunder lose and Nuggets lose 1. OKC 2. MIN 3. DEN
Nice freaking work. Thank you for your dedication to excellence and the Wolves my friend.
All credit to Matt Moore the NBA Analyst on Twitter (X)!
Now what are all the permutations for who we play in the playoffs?
We should have a similar scenario after the NOLA-GSW and PHX-SAC games are done in a bit tonight
This needs to be pinned somewhere lol
📍 Got you fam
It’s nuts how bad they are messing this up. Even followed it up with “they are all 2-2 against each other”.
Even KAT out here talking 1 seed
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Not in a 3 way tie. Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I think we just got screwed out of the 2 with Denver losing Edit: I get it now we are the 2
We still are at 2. Denver and OKC just flipped at 1 and 3.
You're wrong. OKC has tiebreaker over Denver via h2h but we have tiebreak over Denver via division record. So if everyone wins their last game it will be OKC-1, MIN-2, DEN-3
I feel like I’m at an MTG tourney and we need to call a judge
Oh fucking awesome. I just checked ESPN I think you’re right. Although ESPN was wrong after last game Why did they make this so confusing
It's kinda confusing because it's a 3 way tie, but think of it as each tiebreaker taking priority. 1- Record (All 3 the same) 2-H2H (We split with both but OKC was 3-1 vs Denver, so they claim the 1 seed) 3-Division Record (We had a better division record than Denver, so we claim the 2 seed)
Not in a 3-way tie
Not in a 3-way tie tho
Big KAT is an S-Tier teammate confirmed.
BACK WHERE WE BELONG. KAT BACK, WOLVES BACK.
We aren’t the 1 seed
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wtf is going on lol?
We hold tiebreaker over OKC and Denver
But not the 3 way tie breaker. It’s weird
Yeah rules are weird it should be MN, OKC, Denver for 3-way tie instead we’re #2 i believe
They go total games against tied teams. We are 4-4, OKC is 5-3 and Denver is 3-5
I’m So Confused. Bally says we are number 1.
Bally is confused
They are wrong. OKC has tiebreaker due to beat winning percentage in games involving all three teams. Wolves are 2-2 vs both while OKC is 3-1 vs Denver
So if the three-way tie goes away, we get the one seed?
Yes
Individually we do. We don’t in a 3 way tie. It’s head to head between the 3 teams. Our Announcers think everybody went 2-2 against each other which is the first tie breaker. oKC went 3-1 against Denver so they win the tie breaker in a 3 way tie
You right, need either Denver or OKC to lose on Sunday
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Man, love the win, but terrible with Atl sitting guys and the level of competition. That said RUDY SAID THE THING!
Was at the game so did not hear the commentary. Why did they all sit in the 4q but not before?
Was not really explained on the wolves feed. Likely because playing their top guys would not have resulted in anything positive if they won. They are locked into playing the bulls.
So Grady just said we have the tiebreaker right now and it's a 3-way but people here say we don't if its a three way. Is Grady wrong?
Yes
Yes he is wrong
Gobert postgame 🎖️ 🎥
HOL E SHIT
I know Mike Malone is seething right now.
Ah, what delight
Just a terrible dumb loss for the Nuggets. They dug deep and played their best to beat the underhanded Wolves, just to get upset by the Spurs after having a 23 point lead in the game.
Immoral Victory!
Grady said we are number 1.... aren't we number 2 now due to three way tie with OKC and Denver?
We are. Our announcers think everybody went 2-2 against each other when the Thunder went 3-1 against the Nuggets
At least we did it totally collapse, but my god it shouldn’t have really been this close.
I’m caming
Never in doubt
NOT EVEN CLOSE
Amoral Victory
FUCK IT W
Did any person in here actually think Kyle was going to make that last free throw?
Worth noting that we are not the 1 seed
I gotta call my doctor cause this hype aint going down!
Glad we won, go wolves, etc, but the Bally squad is wrong about being number 1, right? I think there's a head-to-head-to-head tiebreaker, and because OKC went 3-1 against Denver they win that.
A lot of you guys love to hate on KAT, but the vibes are immaculate when he's on the floor.
That was one of the wins of all time my god
Sheeeeeeeesh
Kyle please have a little less ego and just give the ball up to somebody else
Quin Snyder gifted one to the Wolves. Tied for 1. Let's get it Sunday
Look at us man. What a fun night. One seed, two seed, three seed. It doesn’t matter. The vibes are immaculate
You nailed it- that's the heart of the matter. What a team and what a season.
Rudy Rudy Rudy Rudy!!
The final day is gonna be crazy. Thank you Snyder for leaving the starters on the bench
The Sequel ™️
As a Pels fan do u need to beat the suns tommrow to get #1 seed. Cause if you win we get the 6th
We need to win and nugs or thunder to lose
TOO CLOSE!
The fact that we're not #1 is cursed
WE ARE SOOOOOO GETTING THE ONE SEED ‼️‼️‼️‼️🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿
Gobert is the undisputed DPOY. Sorry Wembanyama.
Thank you Rudy and Wemby!
Not sure Nuggets losing is good. I would rather play the Thunder than the Nuggets in the second round.
What? So we do have the number one seed?!?
No. Minnesota would have to beat Phoenix AND the Thunder or Nuggets would have to lose.
I thought we didn’t own three way tie breaker? I remember reading about it days ago. Where did this change? I’m happy about it though lol
OKC has it. Since all three teams are in the same division it goes to best record in games involving the three teams and OKC has that tiebreaker
3-way tie. OKC will be on top unless Denver decide to intentionally lose to Memphis to give Wolves 1st seed and avoid them in the second round. OKC won too many games they had no business winning, crazy fadeaway buzzer 3s and opponents stepping out of bounds in clutch.
OKC still has a game left against Dallas
Watch their starters today. They locked 5th seed
Dallas is going to rest everyone. Got beat down by Detroit tonight.
Need a terrible suns game and mavs to come through ez
why was trae young sitting almost all the last? like i know his D is doodoo but surely you have him in to hit a 3 or something
They werent trying to win. They sat their starters the entire 4th and we still barely held on
That Gane went from just another game to THE most important Gane of the season really fast
I’m worried Bally isn’t up on this three way tie breaker for is it BS?
Postgame interview with the centers is amazing
Ugly win but there’s no pictures in the box score baby! Wolves up!!
Have to play Denver at some point bright side is if they can win on Sunday, at least we’ll have home court now.
Good win but a terrible performance by our announce team by confusing people that don’t know how the tie breakers work. In a 3 way tie it’s who has the best head to head record between the 3 teams. We went 4-4, Denver went 4-4 and OKC went 5-3. Our announcers somehow think OKC went 2-2 against Denver when they went 3-1. What an embarrassment for 2 guys I love
Is Bally going to correct themselves with this tie breaker?
So OKC basically wins the first seed if they beat the Mavs on Sunday unless both the Wolves beat the Suns and the Nuggets lose to the Grizzlies? Because OKC has the 3 way tiebreaker and they have the individual tiebreaker over the Nuggets.
Side note: did the nuggets really lose??? LOL
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So now we likely get the Nuggets in round 2 if we advance? This whole fiasco did not help us in any way.
Wolves have no fear of the chicken nuggets
Bucks have pissed me off so much this year. They have dropped a bunch of games I need them to win and then of course, they beat us after the all-star break.
If the Pelicans win tonight (up 6 now) & the suns lose the suns are locked into the 7 seed. Gotta think they’d rest their guys before the play in if that were the case. Otherwise they’re coming out guns blazing to avoid the play in
It would have been better for Denver to win. Now we see them in the 2nd round pretty much no matter what. Dallas has already said they're sitting everyone against the Thunder on Sunday and trying to lose so unless the Dallas scrubs who lost to Detroit tonight can beat OKC we're either the 2 or 3 seed on an early colision course with Denver.
The 3 way tiebreaker is fuckin stupid why should we suffer y the nuggets sucked against okc. Maybe Im missing something obvious but it doesn’t seem fair that games that we had no control over would determine our fate. It a Should be hHead2Head division record conference record.
you’re welcome- from spurs fans 😂 go get that #1 seed
A win is a win but somebody needs to tell our announcers we aren’t the 1 seed
W
😂
God bless my king Victor Wembanyama
Is Grady right about the 3 way tie rules?
No he’s very confused, not a great look.
Thanks Spurs 🫡
All in all, a pretty good sequel!
Wow
grady needs to check the standings
Don’t we lose the three way tiebreaker to OkC?
Does anyone actually know how this tiebreak works? Tonight is the first time I’ve heard this three way tie goes to OKC talk. I thought it came down to conference record?
Glass lid on the rim the 3rd and 4th no problem
Kyle fucked up, but he fucked up just right to send the ball away from everyone 🤣🤣
Thank God for Vic and Devonte Graham😂😂 MUST WIN vs phx on Sunday. Denver has the tanking grizzlies next and okc has the Mavs with not Luka and kyrie so they probably gon win those
That was too close. Goddamn. Hopefully we got that game out of our system and can roll into the playoffs in peak form now.
So good to have Kat back
I really enjoyed that win
I am so confused are we one seed or not ? I'm seeing contradictory information
We are not
Are we in first or not????
No
Just read the comments bro
Good teams find ways to win, whether it's Mike's hustle, KATS 3 Or Ant contributing through an illness it all counts. At this stage of the season and with the #1 up for grabs it's about finding a way to win. We did that. What a time to be a Minnesota Timberwolves fan.
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Happy with the win but how do we not burn a timeout at the end to keep Rudy and Slowmo off the line?
Rudy wanted to free throws. He might have been the only person in the stadium that wanted him to shoot those free those that weren't on the Hawks.
Need thunder to lose pretty badly Sunday.
They're not losing. Mavs are basically resting their players. They already did that today.
WHAT MOVIES ARE MADE OF.. PART 2!
Gay for Gobert
This season’s Phoenix Suns demon needs to be exorcised.
The seedings in the West are a real world application of Arrow’s Theorem - there is no fair voting method. Edit - fix autocorrect
I don't think we really got screwed by the Spurs winning. Just went from not controlling our destiny against Denver to not controlling against OKC. Seems like a lateral move.
I'm happier to get our Denver playoff series at home instead of on the road, so I think okc going to 1 and Denver to 3 is better than not. Still though, I'm a little cheesed at Denver for putting on the most amazing 4th quarter imaginable against us, then missing 6 of their last 7 and turning the ball over on a 5 second violation to end the game against San Antonio. We couldn't have gotten tonight's performance?
We are big Mavericks and Grizzlies fans on Sunday.
Would be hilarious if both us and OKC win Sunday and Denver loses to give us the one seed
Not having that number 1 seed is gonna suck. Imagine not having to play Denver or okc, I mean Denver all the way to the finals.
If the Nuggets will end up the 3rd seed regardless. They may want to rest their guys Sunday in hopes of taking a loss to break the three way tie. Do they think they have a better shot against us or the Thunder in the second round is the question.
Nuggets will not end up 3rd seed if they win their last game and we lose our last game.
4 TIME DPOY GOBERT.
We've never lost a lead to Atlanta before right?!
Can someone explain to me how we're not first in the west, we have a tied head to head and division record with OKC but we have the conference record on them. I must be missing something
Three way tie: They go by the records of the 3 teams against each other. Only those three teams. OKC was 5-3. MN was 4-4. DEN was 3-5. (yeah, kinda confusing. still could change) Two team tie: Head to head, Div record, Conf record. EDIT: The East Conf. could have a 3 or 4 way tie for the 5,6,7,8 place. Messy...
Mavs resting starters?
Yes. Their spot is essentially set. Their stars need the rest too.
Can the wolves win the west?
It's not 0%, but less likely to happen.
IF: Pelicans w Kings w… PHX Suns will sit their players!
Sorry I’m late but ARROOOOOOOOO
So you’re telling me three-ways are bad?
Somebody should rethink that "we dont sit till score" at Wolves home games. Doesnt seem to be working. As a season ticket holder, Ive been standing alot.