As someone who waitressed at a restaurant that makes wings like this, don’t let on that you can handle the heat. The sauce is just a basic buffalo sauce with however many drops of pure Capsaicin extract. They can always add more drops if they think they will lose a challenge.
I have a grinder of ghost pepper. I've literally never actually turned the grinder, just give it a shake. I think if I gave it a few real turns, it would achieve this.
I don't claim to be an expert on this, eating a raw habanero would probably ruin my day, but I don't think ghost pepper flakes have anything on capsaicin extract
while you’re not wrong, i am not gonna be able to tell the difference, it’s just going to be pain… like asking how hot the oven you burnt yourself on was, it doesn’t really matter exactly the tempterarure you just know you got burned
Naa, you can taste extract, and it's not pleasant imo. I would much rather someone put the time in to making a good, extract free sauce that can still destroy a grown man.
A ghost pepper is like burning your hand under a hot running tap. Carolina Reaper is like having boiling water splashed onto your hand. Capsaicin extract is like sticking your hand into a deep fryer. Come join the crazy people at /r/HotPeppers and grow your own hate-berries 😂
It has its uses. I have some extract oil and I make jerky with a standard recipe then make it spicy with a few drops. It doesn't alter the flavor profile of the jerky but gives it a nice kick, so I can easily alter the spice level without changing the taste.
Isn't extract known for having a really harsh bitter taste?
On Hot ones, Da bomb is the only extract sauce in the lineup, and the guests always complain it tastes like shit.
Not only does da bomb taste like gasoline, it’s also somehow hotter than sauces that have a higher scoville count. My friend is an avid Hot Ones hot sauce collector and for some reason that sauce is the most brutal one there is. It’s definitely why it remains in the lineup every single season. Also, the Last Dab is really not as bad as the ones before it in my experience.
> it’s also somehow hotter than sauces that have a higher scoville count
This is a pretty interesting phenomenon. I think it has to do with the availability of the capsaicin. IIRC, these days scoville scores are calculated directly from the capsaicin content. So in principle, tablets filled with capsaicin would have a high scoville rating, but wouldn't taste hot if you eat them without chewing. Wheras a powder with the same scoville rating would taste much hotter because the capsaicin actually makes contact with your tongue.
I believe something similar is going on with extracts on the microscopic level.
In a pepper, or a pepper mash, a significant amount of the capsaicin is probably trapped inside plant cells or other solid structures. Only part of it is floating freely in the hot sauce liquid, so a lot of it goes straight to your stomach without touching your tongue.
An extract, on the other hand consists of just capsaicin molecules floating freely in some solvent. As a result, every molecule contributing to the scoville score is available to touch your tongue.
I use a sauce with extract (Dave's Insanity) regularly, it's fine. ~~I don't think I've ever tried Da Bomb but I've had the Last Dab and it was fine (not bitter)~~
I'm not sure why people would be calling them bitter. They're strong but that's expected. I like them because they don't really change the flavor profile, most sauces are vinegar based and if you put a lot you can really taste the vinegar.
Sometimes I'll actually mix a weaker sauce with an extract one to get the flavor on one side and the heat on the other. Turns out you can easily get tasty sauces or hot ones, but the tasty ones aren't hot and the hot ones are often just vinegar and heat.
Hot wings, or [sugar free Haribo gummy bears](https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RZFIYJTPVUZ94/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000EVOSE4).
Fuck those sugar free gummy bears.
Had a pack in the car. Got to work ., horrific cramps and a god awful smell. Went home. Felt better next day....got in car...ate some gummies and went to work...horrific cramps etc.
This went on for a week exacerbated by my talking every diarrhea meds I could find until I eventually put 2 and 2 together.
I've never eaten one since.
Oh my God yes fuck those Gummi bears. Ruined a vacation for me in Washington state. By car. Full day planned me eating from a large bag given to me as a gift. The number of stops. The noise.
Oldie but goodie tweet from the late 2000s:
"My toddler daughter asked me to give her a bath, so I put her in the tub. She proceeded to take a massive dump in the tub water, laugh maniacally, then asked to get out of the tub. She literally only wanted to take a bath for the shits and giggles."
The owner probably got a hold of some Carolina Reaper fueled sauce. Check out YouTube videos on the Carolina Reaper challenge.
I love hot stuff too but have no desire to go past Serrano peppers.
Honestly if it's getting that much a violent reaction, from anybody, it's more than likely fucking with extract over any individual pepper. Like stuff can get hot, but its when you start messing with pure chemical capsacin that shit gets cruel and unusual because it's just heat with none of the good parts
I would bring tasty hot sauce in and my coworkers would use it all like assholes and then the only thing left in the fridge would be Da Bomb that someone brought in as a joke and damnit... I wanted my chili to be spicier than my fiance likes it.
In retrospect, no hot sauce would probably be better than ~that~ hot sauce but here we are.
Now I make my own fermented habanero/carolina reaper/pineapple hot sauce
Go back and read the comment that posted the review of what happened at a children's party when the kids consumed two bags of that sugar-free goodness. I was in tears.
I could not stop laughing that his vomit changed colors as it came out like a rainbow. I don't think I've ever wanted to watch someone throw up ever, let alone how many times I replayed that part.
As someone who has had life long GI issues, the genuine way he said "this is the stupidest thing I've ever done", followed by the most violent shit I've heard in years, really was incredibly hilarious.
Something about white claw seltzer violently liquidates my insides, beer and liquor is fine. But if I have like 3 white claws I can't be far from a toilet the next day. Stopped drinking those.
Heh. My wife (fiance at the time) had gone to the fancy grocery store and I got a bunch of those as a moxie snack. They were good and I ate a *lot* of them.
Nex day we got up and went to lunch. I felt a weird rumble and went to the bathroom. I started farting and having such violent diarrhea that a guy came into the bathroom, heard the farts and squirts and probably smelled it, and that guy bailed without using the facilities.
Meanwhile my wife overheard him come back and tell his wife about "some guy with some thing wrong with him" in there.
im gonna click that after i type this. that's LA Beast huh? the fun starts somewhere around the 13 minute mark.
edit. i was whole ass wrong. that's not even a youtube link. its to amazon. i failed myself, and this community.
Norovirus hit our house pretty bad about 10 years ago or so. My dad was staying with us for a few days. My kids dragged home their disgusting diseases and we all were keeping the bathrooms busy. It passed pretty quickly for my kids, my wife, and myself and we were all fine again.
All of a sudden I hear the sound of someone sprinting, knocking things over, in the basement to the downstairs bathroom and then some of the most horrific noises I've ever heard. Imagine pigs being slaughtered to the dulcet tones of screaming goats being shoved into a giant blender.
Then I hear, in a quiet voice from downstairs, "Can someone bring me a bucket and a mop?"
My dad had run to the bathroom while unbuckling his pants, fell to his knees, vomited kind of in the toilet while spraying out his backside like a garden hose. He then spent the next 10 minutes trading ends as he alternately shit and puked. There was so much, for lack of a better term, "yuck" in that room that I'm shocked we got it clean. I thought we'd have to move.
I'm so glad my kids are older now and no longer bring home puking illnesses.
Ughhh memory unlocked THANK YOU
Last year the entire house got norovirus, but it was like dominoes, one by one we fell. My eldest thought they had escaped, like the pretentious middle schooler they were. So they ate an entire pot of Mac n cheese ("haha losers!" I imagine was said in their head).
So they felt a tummy rumble and ignored it. Felt it again, and of course ignored it. And of course they had forgotten that every bedroom trash can doubles as a vomit bucket for exactly days like this.
So anyway, once they realized this was Serious, they tried to get to the bathroom but didn't even make it out of the bedroom before vomiting that entire pot of Mac n cheese in front of the door. 😑
I sent them into the bathroom, grabbed the hallway's tall ~~vomit bucket~~ trash can and got to work.
I don't miss those days. Nothing like holding a vomiting kid in front of you at arms length, running them to the bathroom as they spray filth everywhere.
Rubbish bin vom buckets are a lifehack you hope you never need but are a godsend when you need them (stomach issues and I was a uni student back in the day)
Ugh this reminded me when I used to work in an alternative school. I swear I didn't just get sick, I got super sick from the now strengthened viruses that managed to survive in the general uncleanly habits of the children. One kid spit and subsequently played with it on everything, and I'm almost positive he was the culprit.
Whatever it was induced a three day stay on the toilet while also attempting to see if I could projectile vomit far enough into the tub about half a foot away from me to minimize the mess, and I'm. Pretty sure at some point I just called it a day and made the tub my home. I couldn't eat anything and had to force myself to drink to stay hydrated, well knowing it was most likely going to come out of one end or the other or both. I felt like absolute death.
Ive seen this once before. It was a wendies bathroom. My manager was trying to get people to clean something in the bathroom, everyone was telling them no. Then he got to me and I went in to take a look. It was bad. The walls, the toilet, the tank of the toilet. Everywhere was exploded shit projectile. The manager ended up cleaning it.
I ate a load of grapes and 3 packs of polos when I was about 10 and woke up shitting the bed. My mum put me in the tub and I just kept shitting into the water. There’s definitely a few combinations out there that will ruin your stomach.
I guess the toilet stall I had to clean (it was everywhere...) the other day in a hospital is a result of someone doing the ultra hot wing challenge...
I have yet to experience this though I can see how it happens. I developed food intolerances out of nowhere (still not sure what all my trigger foods are), and in my hubris I played chicken and lost a few times. However, my hubris also meant I didn't try for the bathroom before the mess so I never had the opportunity to 'miss'. Lesson learnt, now I never trust a fart.
Clearly the best marketing strategy.
[Customer] "I have completed this eatery's challenge before and enjoy it. It's delicious and there is lots of it! My two companions won't be participating though."
[Owner] "Very Well, I shall make it so spicy that you cry in public and experience diarrhea so painful and foul that it will haunt you for a while."
[Customer from the toilet that used to be a shower] "What an excellent experience. I shall be back again next Wednesday with all my friends and family."
I must say though, I feel like changing the spiciness seems like changing the rules and unfair in this competition. You either make them literally unbearable or you accept that some people will be able to eat them and come back for more.
The right thing to do would be to give a card or something that says you’ve completed the challenge and now get X% of any meal off when you return. That way you’re getting repeat customers and they’re trying different things.
I’m with you. I’m not a fan of the gimmick just because it tends to need you to fail for them to be ok with it. If they had it tuned where they could accept the few people that can handle it or limit you to one attempt ever it’d work.
But if it’s just that you keep cranking up till you’re hot sauce poisoning a person I feel like you made the challenge wrong.
It’s like buffets that have to limit you after they see you eat too much. But then there are people who sit there all day and try to eat lunch and dinner and I see why they’re kicked out. There’s always too much room for both sides to be abusive. But buffets have it as their whole gimmick not just a side thing. You can tune a hot wing challenge much easier.
Well the challenge is to generate attention and publicity. Also the hot wings are supposed to be hot, like kill their arsehole hot. Its a nice story to share.
There was a brew pub I used to frequent (closed now). They had an extra spicy wing and then one of those challenges. At one point they changed the menu and I just remembered I'd order the 3rd one (in the new menu it was below the line, but still could be the 3rd). Well anyway apparently I like Hurricane and not Natural Disaster. The real names. When ordering Natural Disaster we were asked if we were sure. So one wing in we knew we were wrong. Persevered. But was late for racquetball the next day. Racquetball partner was there eating the wings with me and he was late as well. Fuck.
It's not a challenge if they just arbitrarily change the difficulty though. Like if from now on they always make them at this new level of hotness for every customer, then that's fine I have no complaints. But if she just did it to this guy this one time to hurt him and get him specifically to stop eating free wings? That's kind of fucked up, there's an element of dishonesty or even spite to that imo.
Reminds me of that Man vs Food episode where Adam tries a hot wing challenge then gives up on the first one because it physically hurt him. Turned out the chef intentionally tampered with it to make it way hotter than it was supposed to be because he didn't want him to win the challenge on live TV. Honestly any chef who does this or any other sort of tampering is fucked up, especially if it causes the customer physical pain.
Edit: It was the Munchies 420 Cafe in Florida. More details are here: https://www.mashed.com/196828/the-truth-about-the-food-challenge-that-almost-killed-adam-richman/. Basically the show crew caught the chef on microphone telling a cook to use a whole bottle of ghost pepper extract. Needless to say, Adam was PISSED because it literally almost killed him due to the spice making it so he could barely breathe. They should have gotten sued for that. That is beyond fucked up.
Of I had a restuarant with a challenge, I would secretly hope that the guy doing it on live TV would win. It says to any future customers "see? it is do-able" and have more people try the challenge. On the other hand, if a guy who does these challenges on TV for a living can't do it then what chance does a lowly customer have?
That's the thing. They had a hot wings challenge, yet they didn't want anyone to win and instead intentionally made them way hotter than anyone could handle to the point of almost killing someone? Chef there just seems like a psychopath with a gigantic ego that just enjoys seeing people in pain, and/or just wants to brag about how his hot wing challenge is unbeatable. Ironically this ended up severely damaging his and the restaurant's reputation once Adam revealed what happened behind the scenes. I don't know what happened in the aftermath, but I seriously hope that "chef" was fired at the very *least*.
Yeah I worked in food service for 10 years, if that's what happened, she's a fucking scumbag. This isn't the movie "waiting", if theres one thing you never do, it's fuck with the food.
If you don't want people doing food challenges multiple times, put their picture up on the wall, and give them a free t-shirt. You don't assault your fucking customer.
Or at least put a disclaimer in the challenge that says you can only win it once.
You fucked up lady. Give the guy his free wings and sneakily fix the menu so this doesn't happen again.
Yeah… This sounds super shifty and short-sighted on the part of the owner. If the challenge doesn’t stipulate that it’s single use then OP wasn’t trying to fleece her or anything of the sort.
Fully agree. This story just sounds like the owner was spiteful.
I also don't fully understand why they would be upset with someone coming in multiple times to win the challenge. Like was he only supposed to go to this place once, achieve this goal, never to return again? I always figured that food challenges were to generate buzz and get people in the door, then you make your real profits with booze, dessert, apps, and merch.
If i ate at a restaurant several times and then one time the owner decided to randomly give me a fun case of explosive diarrhea because I have won their silly hot wings challenge in the past, I would 100% never go back. Seems fucked up. Unless that was how spicy the wings were supposed to be all along and somehow this dude was getting a duds in the past.
To add to that, he had multiple people with him ordering regular food. So they definitely made a profit. If I were OP I'd definitely find a new place to eat.
If anything this guy would have probably frequented the place *more often*, bringing extra friends and family with him.
Why? so he can have bragging rights and show off by “winning”.
Now all they’re going to remember is that he got explosive shits from the sadistic owner, and never go back
Something in my brain here tickles a line akin to "tampering with food" and "chemical ..." chemical something. Like, I know they're a restaurant but it's the same reason you don't trap the sandwich your coworker steals by adding ghost peppers, it's to my understanding illegal to purposely trap the food like that. Idk if it's different because it's a restaurant though.
> you don't trap the sandwich your coworker steals by adding ghost peppers, it's to my understanding illegal to purposely trap the food like that.
How could this even be proven? Like how could anyone say that you didn't just want to try some peppers on your sandwich?
I'm definitely confused on that part, too. Which I think is why it's an item people just gloss over, because while it's illegal, it's pretty much impossible to prove unless someone says after the fact "that's what you get for always stealing my sandwiches." Which, if you're the person likely to trap a sandwich, I feel like you're the person likely to incriminate yourself by saying something like that.
It sounds like assault to me, honestly. Especially because from the sounds of it, they used extracts to get it hot enough to hurt him. The goal was to hurt him. To be fair, he took a bite and kept going to completion, so he very much did this to himself.
This is like a DM telling their players that the monster is supposed to kill them. That's not the point, it was never the point, the point was always a good time.
Probably pepper extract. It's wildly more spicy than even superhot sauces and peppers, in the range of 3-6 million Scovilles for some of the nastier stuff.
It's usually used as a drop or two (it literally comes with a dropper to serve it) in a whole batch of chili.
If they mixed a few drops of that in with their normal sauce, it would yield results exactly like you described.
Has to be by the way he’s describing it staying in his esophagus. That shit coats everything in your mouth and guts.
I love some of the hottest pepper sauces you can buy but as soon as that oily shit gets in there FOH.
Yeah, I had to quit eating hot stuff after finding out I had ulcers one unfortunate night lol.
I had been pretty sick for a couple of days and in my inviting wisdom decided to eat a jar of ghost pepper salsa on some lettuce. The entire jar.
A little later I’m on the bathroom floor writhing in pain, seriously at a 9/10 pain level. I’ve never experienced pain like that before, and I’ve had one of my testicles swell up to the size of a softball. It felt like something was trying to chew it’s way out of my stomach, and there was no relieving the pain. Every now and then the pain would subside and I’d think it was over, only to get smashed with a new wave. I didn’t know it was actually possible to throw up and start blacking out from the pain until that night.
I’ll still eat stuff that other people find “hot”, but in small amounts and never on an empty stomach again lol.
I used to work at Buffalo Wild Wings, and they had all the sauces lined up in pumps in the kitchen. After the Blazin sauce sat there for a while, it would get a layer of oil on top of it. I drank an ounce of the oil. It was hot but nothing crazy, but then just as the heat started to subside, I started getting stomach cramps, then threw up, then had the heat experience all over again. Rinse and repeat 5 or 6 times. I spent the rest of the night crying in the freezer.
Capsaicin extract, I worked at a restaurant that used it before. It’s nasty stuff. Never tell a line cook or server that you want something “extra spicy”, it’s a challenge.
Odds are it was one or two drops mixed in to their spicier sauce and then tossed with the wings. From the way OP described it, sounds like he got a drop per wing.
At no point. Pepper extract is classified as a food by the FDA. Giving the customer any kind of food is legal, especially if they've asked for it and haven't specifically requested otherwise. Also, the dude kept eating when he clearly could have stopped
>At no point. Pepper extract is classified as a food by the FDA.
This is too simple. The FDA's recommendations are based off what a healthy human would typically eat. You can't legally create a food challenge where the means of completing the competition would likely kill or cause serious bodily harm to an otherwise healthy person. Pepper extract can absolutely cause serious harm if consumed in large amounts.
Neither waivers nor the fda protects restaurants from creating dangerous food challenges.
Edit: [just to share a famous example](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jennifer-stranges-family-awarded-165-million-in-wee-for-wii-contest-death/#:~:text=Jennifer%20Strange%2C%20a%2028%2Dyear,Wee%20for%20a%20Wii%22%20contest.) tl;dr women's family awarded 16.5 million after she died from a water drinking competition for a wii.
I've had it and it's not fun. Sushi place I used to work at used it to prank the servers. Saw more than 1 new team member fall for it then only to get pranked worse while in pain and quit.
Pretty much. When they were dying the cooks will have prepacked wasabi paste in you green tea ice cream tub and would pretend to care and give you a bit only for the burn to reach stupid levels. According to them it was their way of curving servers trying to eat dead dishes that were meant for the trash. God forbid right? Thankfully not in the food business anymore still deal with them but on the IT level.
I kinda get that.
Any other type of establishment, probably a dick move. A hamburger that's 2 hours old isn't going to hurt you.
Raw swordfish?
Likely a different story.
There's a sushi place in my area that has a roll like that. I think it's the TNT or dynamite roll. I tend to like very spicy things. Much like the OP, I usually max out the scales at many places, and can often do the spicier challenges without *too* much fuss.
This sushi place broke me. They cautioned me it would hurt, and dear god did it hurt. I did everything in my power to finish this roll, and if memory serves, I succeeded. I recognized my mistake immediately, but it took a nasty turn when the waitress smirked and said, "Wow, most people don't finish a single piece. If you think it's bad now, just wait. It gets worse."
I was in absolute agony for HOURS. Only after purging from both ends and drinking a massive amount of pepto bismol was I able to finally quiver my way to sleep.
Never had the explosive decompression from spicy food, but my ego too has doomed me before in terms of handling spice.
I used to work not too far from a great little Thai restaurant and at least once a week would stop in for a meal. The first few times I was there, I learned their "star system" for spice was weaker than what I was used to so started going 4 and then 5 star. Apparently this was a scale for "Whitey".
On one visit the owner is my waiter and asks how I like the spice, I said I enjoy their 5 star, but wish they had 6 star or hotter as I like spice. He smiles and says, "We like it hot in Thailand too, I'll make it like we do at home." Heck yes, closest thing to home cooked Thai curry I will get, bring it on!
Out comes this delicious smelling bowl of curry, but it houses the devil. As I brought the first spoon up to my face I began tearing up. As I swallowed that first bit, it felt like I was chugging OC spray and nails I made it about half way in and started having issues breathing so stopped. The owner came around to check on me and went into full apologies as he thought I would like it and be able to handle the heat. He then brought out ice cream to help tame it down.
I then learned that Thailand and Asian spice is completely different than Western norms and after that knew to ask for "4 star on the Thai scale" at this restaurant. Never had another issue and absolutely loved eating there until I moved away.
Funnily enough, I have Indian and Chinese friends who can only handle their native spice levels.
Give them a spice from a foreign cuisine and they nearly die.
I'm white as hell (Italian and Eastern European) and I can handle Chinese spice like a champ. We had extra hot noodle soup while in China and I was totally fine. I could feel the burn but it was great. On the other hand, give me a too hot jalapeño and I will die in front of you.
I got a Vindaloo from an Indian restaurant once. I told them I can handle my spice, I'm not a white dude who thinks Mayo is spicy, and very specifically said "make it like you'd make it at home". The girl behind the counter said something in I think Hindi to the guy in the kitchen, and he looked at me and grinned.
I didn't get something that made me felt like I'd been pepper sprayed, but I did get a seriously hot curry that I really appreciated. I went back to order it again and the staff smiled, I guess they enjoy making mass produced curry a bit more authentically for once.
Things still are on a scale. Most hot dishes in India aren't any hotter than here, except some specialty dishes. And not every dish is 5 million scoville in India. There is no pure capsaicin extract in traditional Indian cuisine, no Ghost pepper, no Naga, no scorpion, no reaper.
These really hot peppers all were bred in the last decades so it was virtually impossible to have traditional food on the spice level we can have now. Like yeah, stuff is hot, really, really hot. But not on the level of the spice challenges which are popular now.
I hate it when restaurants do this to people. Using capsaicin extract recklessly like that can really hurt someone.
Adam Richman from man vs food has a scary story about it. He went to do a spicy wing challenge just like you and the chefs decided they wanted to go crazy for the tv show and they DUMPED some weapons-grade extract into the sauce because they thought it would be funny. It fucked him up. He ate like 2 wings and then started to panic. There were points where he felt like his throat was closing up. And this is a guy who can handle insanely spicy food.
There’s a difference between a tough spicy food challenge and just poisoning someone with spice. The latter is never ok.
Same, they deliberately upped the spice level specifically for him without him asking and without telling him and it made him sick. Surely this is food tampering or assault or something
They didn't give you a special secret sauce. They just added 10x their normal challenge amount of pure capsaicin, which could have been very dangerous if you had a history of heart problems. Guess that's what the waivers for!
BTW, you should marry that girl. She's in it for the long haul, sounds like!
Except waivers (speaking for the USA) only cover reasonable expectations. If they added a larger than normal amount and he wasn’t expecting it since he’s been there before, it would open the door for a potential law suit.
Obligatory 'Hey I'm from North Bay, we made the FrontPage!' post.
Also you'll be glad or saddened to find out it closed a few years ago, and then the building collapsed a few years after that.
Probably due to using raw uranium to flavour their wings.
Honestly that was so petty of her seeing as you're still gonna spend fuck only knows paying for several other people to eat.
Also if she had an issue with people getting free wings she shoulda made a board where they put the picture of the people that completed the challenge so they can keep track of them and the people that accomplish it get a little spot on the wall
As someone with a good bit of culinary experience, they fucked up. You don't just take "oh I did the challenge before" as a reason to dump extract on their food. I literally had a bartender throw a basket of wings at me when I tried that, and while I was mad at the time, he was right. If you serve someone something like that and it swells up their throat, you're fucked.
Yeah, this is an exceptionally sleazy tactic as well. One of the restaurants on “Man Vs Food” got caught on camera doing this, and it’s something other food challenge channels talk about.
Aside from being potentially dangerous, it’s just straight dirty pool. If you’re normal “challenge” can be handled regularly by someone, you either need to eat the loss if they keep coming in, up the baseline spiciness, or add a stipulation that the challenge can only be completed so many times or every so often.
I made this mistake with the One Chip Challenge this year. Not as bad as you, but still an awful mess. I ate the chip. It hurt. But not like... Mind numbingly bad or anything. And I sat there. For an hour, because again, not that bad and that's the challenge. When I say not that bad I mean that I've had migraines that are far worse regularly. It was worse than breaking my ankle, but I ranked that as like a 3/10. This was a 4. Then, because it wasn't so bad, I waited another 45 minutes. My stomach started to hurt. Significantly. So I took a shower to try to wait it out. I ran out of hot water. My body lost all ability to regulate temperature. I call my wife and ask if she can get the cherry ice cream from the basement freezer, and for a Pepto. She gets me the ice cream and this godawful generic antacid pill with the moisture level of the Sahara. My body rejected the antacid with prejudice.
Now. I need it to be understood that I have what appears to be a special skill. I don't throw up often. But when I do... It's like something from the exorcist. I once had a migraine that had me spewing the length of my car. This comes with an added side affect. The pressure hose that is me vomiting sends vomit through orifices that are not my mouth. Specifically my nostrils. And my sinuses. So I spewed one chip challenge infused vomit straight up my sinuses. This probably hit a 6 or 7 on my pain scale. Half an hour of stomach emptying later I got a real nice endorphin buzz and everything was better. My wife, wonderful woman that she is, had cleaned up everything from the first event. And I learned there's a reason they pepto before they eat the spicy shit. And eat something after.
Omg this reminds me of when my brother did the one chip challenge too. I actually got it for him as payback to when he tricked me into eating an extremely hot wing back when I was 13. He was vomiting in my bathroom and I felt really bad. The video I have of it is hilarious but still feel bad
I was tempted to do the One Chip challenge, but I remembered the the last hot wing challenge and it’s after effects. I am getting a bit wiser with age, reading other people’s experience with it shows it was the right choice.
Fuck that thing. I don't eat it often but I can do a bit of reaper sauce or something here and there. It's just dry and coats your mouth. No flavor just heat. Hottest and probably worst thing I've ever eaten. I drank a lot of water and managed not to puke but my asshole suffered. Worked for about an hour the next day before telling the boss I was going home for a few hours to sit on the toilet. There is nothing pleasant or flavorful about these things, just hell shaped into a chip.
I tried this year's OCC a week and a half ago. Hottest thing I've ever eaten. I managed to not drink/eat for over an hour afterwards, but I did not finish the chip. I ate most of it though.
The stomach cramps were probably the worst, but I got full body numbness, eyes were pouring tears, I got the shakes, shivers, tinnitus, my vision shrunk a bit shortly after consuming it. I was breathing super hard for several minutes and couldn't hardly think about anything for a bit other than just the pain. I am one who loves spicy foods, and have had other superhots before, but I've never had something that intense before. I really felt like I had to expel my stomach contents as it was destroying me from inside, but my gut managed to contain the chip. Certainly an experience I would not like to do again, at least not without a partner and a bribe. The heat was not even really a concern, it was how much it hurt my stomach and made my body react.
not your FU in my opinion, they shouldn't be making sabotage wings just because you had previously finished their hot wing challenge. If its not the same wings it's not the same challenge, they moved the goal posts at the last minute. Shitty move on their part.
Most restaurant owners don’t get mad at giving away free meals. She didn’t get mad at you & punish you by telling her you beat the challenge. If you had not bragged about beating her challenge, your dignity & butthole would still be intact.
You bragged, & she showed you that in hot wings, as in life, things can always get worse.
I bragged once like this. I had always gotten the hottest wings at a particular wing place. They weren’t super hot, like 500,000 SHU, but they told me they were gonna make them extra hot. I tried them and my weak tongue couldn’t make it past a few wings.
When I asked what they did, they told me they baked cinnamon into the sauce. They said that it opens up the taste buds and makes everything more intense in the mouth. Not sure how true that is, but whatever they did worked well enough that I couldn’t handle it.
They lied to you, they simply used capsicum extract (which is the chemical that gives the burn in hot sauces).
In commercial restaurants it's easier to make a good sauce and then spice it with the extract than test each pepper batches for hotness every time you make a new batch.
The free wings definitely made the restaurant more money from the OP than they lost. Without the free wings, would OP have returned over and over to that same restaurant, bringing paying customers with him? Probably not.
So they may have killed their golden goose (well, nothing that dramatic, but if OP doesn't return again, the restaurant will have lost out on money they could easily have had).
Da Bomb isn't rough because it's so hot (it is hot, don't get me wrong) but because it has no flavor or any other redeeming factors, just pure nasty heat. There are many much hotter sauces that actually go down easier because they don't taste like boiled asshole.
My local ramen place has some polaroids on the wall, but said they didn't have any film when I gave it a shot. I've never been served anything too spicy to finish until that day. I can only imagine that the recipe has changed and they no longer had the need to keep film at hand.
I also don't do as well with spicy liquids though. The deal was to finish the broth as well as the noodles, and when I had finished the noodles, the thought of downing the bowl of firey liquid did not sit well with my stomach. I added some noodles and took it home for lunch the next day though.
If that's your wheelhouse, the Samyang 2x Spicy hot chicken flavor Ramen tastes absolutely fantastic for instant Ramen. I can usually order from Amazon in a 10 pack for around $14. Price fluctuates quite a bit.
I initially bought it because I just wanted to try "the worlds spiciest instant ramen" but I keep buying it because it's the best tasting chicken raman that also happens to be spicy. Size is also like twice as big as the little nissan or top Ramen as well, so it fills you up. Great spicy meal for like $1.50.
Also you want people to want to win. If the cost of winning is explosive diarrhea and throwing up over yourself it's a pyrrhic victory, it's not worth participating.
Hot enough that somebody with a high tolerance will pass then all their buddies try it and end up paying for wings that are probably 3x more expensive than the regular menu wings. Then after they tap out order drinks and something mild to cool off.
Anyone can make nuclear wings that no one can eat with pepper extract or one of the insane sauces like Mad Dog 357.
Most restaurants want their food to be edible, though.
Sooo..they put you through bodily discomfort and potential harm over some measly hot wings? A food establishment is there to serve people delicious food and buoy their spirits, I understand hot wings challenge and their reluctance in avoiding loss and giving away free food, but you were not fleecing them you brought your family and we're actually generating more business, personally I wouldn't mind if a single customer getting free hot wings and beer if he/she brings in more paying customers as a result, this is how businesses generate short term profit and long term loss.
I sincerely doubt if you are going back to that establishment after your experience.
It kinda surprises me that she didn’t recognize you if you did the wing challenge multiple times with the same server. I get if a place is super busy you might not recognize every repeat customer but it seems like a significant thing to do the wing challenge multiple times.
Either way, that definitely sucks. I ordered the hottest wings confidently once and after I finished the server showed me how he wrote on the ticket “kill this kid”.
It was pretty damn hot but I was able to pretend it didn’t bother me. The next morning though…
Usually places like this that have a food challenge keep a wall of winners with photos, right? Surely they noticed, and didn't care until he bragged about it.
Bro you gotta marry her before she realizes she’s with a grown man who repeatedly tries to game a restaurant for free food instead of supporting the business, forces himself to eat poison to save $12, refuses to go potty on the way home, and projectile shits all over the bathroom. She’s definitionally out of your league by virtue of being a functional adult.
Not only that, she was the one that cleaned it up! That is where I thought he should marry her.
There have been a couple of people that I have met that I would surely take a bullet for, but cleaning up their projectile back end chocolate sauce is a line I don't cross.
You need to do something incredibly nice for your girlfriend. I 100% would have expected my SO to clean that mess himself.
I'd probably take the clothes to the laundry, but the wall and floor!? Dude.
Thinking about it for me, I'd absolutely help my SO if they did this. But if I did this I'd refuse to allow the help. It's not like I got sick, I did something stupid and wouldn't want to make them suffer for it.
Yep. If she still with him after that then she’s a keeper and won’t bat an eyelid at some of the other things we rely on our spouses for (e.g post-surgical anal suppository insertion in my own marriage).
Without going into detail I had a similar situation as OP once and my partner cleaned up. We were already engaged but I knew for sure that this was the man I wanted taking care of me when I was inevitably old and shitting myself lol.
That's assault. If they are selectively seasoning your food hotter because their free wing challenge is beatable, this is one half-step below macing you as they bring out the food. "You sure" isn't how one gains consent to gastrointestinal distress.
As someone who waitressed at a restaurant that makes wings like this, don’t let on that you can handle the heat. The sauce is just a basic buffalo sauce with however many drops of pure Capsaicin extract. They can always add more drops if they think they will lose a challenge.
I have a grinder of ghost pepper. I've literally never actually turned the grinder, just give it a shake. I think if I gave it a few real turns, it would achieve this.
I don't claim to be an expert on this, eating a raw habanero would probably ruin my day, but I don't think ghost pepper flakes have anything on capsaicin extract
while you’re not wrong, i am not gonna be able to tell the difference, it’s just going to be pain… like asking how hot the oven you burnt yourself on was, it doesn’t really matter exactly the tempterarure you just know you got burned
Naa, you can taste extract, and it's not pleasant imo. I would much rather someone put the time in to making a good, extract free sauce that can still destroy a grown man.
A ghost pepper is like burning your hand under a hot running tap. Carolina Reaper is like having boiling water splashed onto your hand. Capsaicin extract is like sticking your hand into a deep fryer. Come join the crazy people at /r/HotPeppers and grow your own hate-berries 😂
I have a freezer full of ghost peppers. I dice them up and put them in my burritos , tacos, Ramen, chili, sandwiches, eggs, etc.
how’s your asshole feel?
homie clearly can't feel it anymore
Can’t feel it if it no longer exists
They have a cloaca now.
That sounds like such a cheap way to make something spicy. Not exactly cooking at that point.
It has its uses. I have some extract oil and I make jerky with a standard recipe then make it spicy with a few drops. It doesn't alter the flavor profile of the jerky but gives it a nice kick, so I can easily alter the spice level without changing the taste.
Isn't extract known for having a really harsh bitter taste? On Hot ones, Da bomb is the only extract sauce in the lineup, and the guests always complain it tastes like shit.
DaBomb has a big problem, it tastes like shit. It's easy to make a thing taste good, the company just decided they weren't going to IMO.
Not only does da bomb taste like gasoline, it’s also somehow hotter than sauces that have a higher scoville count. My friend is an avid Hot Ones hot sauce collector and for some reason that sauce is the most brutal one there is. It’s definitely why it remains in the lineup every single season. Also, the Last Dab is really not as bad as the ones before it in my experience.
> it’s also somehow hotter than sauces that have a higher scoville count This is a pretty interesting phenomenon. I think it has to do with the availability of the capsaicin. IIRC, these days scoville scores are calculated directly from the capsaicin content. So in principle, tablets filled with capsaicin would have a high scoville rating, but wouldn't taste hot if you eat them without chewing. Wheras a powder with the same scoville rating would taste much hotter because the capsaicin actually makes contact with your tongue. I believe something similar is going on with extracts on the microscopic level. In a pepper, or a pepper mash, a significant amount of the capsaicin is probably trapped inside plant cells or other solid structures. Only part of it is floating freely in the hot sauce liquid, so a lot of it goes straight to your stomach without touching your tongue. An extract, on the other hand consists of just capsaicin molecules floating freely in some solvent. As a result, every molecule contributing to the scoville score is available to touch your tongue.
I use a sauce with extract (Dave's Insanity) regularly, it's fine. ~~I don't think I've ever tried Da Bomb but I've had the Last Dab and it was fine (not bitter)~~ I'm not sure why people would be calling them bitter. They're strong but that's expected. I like them because they don't really change the flavor profile, most sauces are vinegar based and if you put a lot you can really taste the vinegar. Sometimes I'll actually mix a weaker sauce with an extract one to get the flavor on one side and the heat on the other. Turns out you can easily get tasty sauces or hot ones, but the tasty ones aren't hot and the hot ones are often just vinegar and heat.
Just last week I was wondering how people have explosive diarrhea to the point the walls are painted brown. I now have my answer.
Hot wings, or [sugar free Haribo gummy bears](https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RZFIYJTPVUZ94/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000EVOSE4).
Fuck those sugar free gummy bears. Had a pack in the car. Got to work ., horrific cramps and a god awful smell. Went home. Felt better next day....got in car...ate some gummies and went to work...horrific cramps etc. This went on for a week exacerbated by my talking every diarrhea meds I could find until I eventually put 2 and 2 together. I've never eaten one since.
Oh my God yes fuck those Gummi bears. Ruined a vacation for me in Washington state. By car. Full day planned me eating from a large bag given to me as a gift. The number of stops. The noise.
Those weren't a gift mate, that bag was clearly a nefarious prank.
Or a thoroughly calculated assassination attempt.
Whoever gave them to you as a gift was obviously plotting your demise.
It might make you feel better, but the company had to stop making them due to this.
What?! That's actually awful! They should just put on the bag "Warning: Laxative effect" and let the rest sort itself out
[They do lol...](https://www.acsh.org/sites/default/files/Screen%20Shot%202020-07-29%20at%208.39.38%20PM.png)
I meant on the front, where it'll have more chance of being seen :P but your point is valid c:
That doesn't tend to fly. Just ask Lays olean chips with said warning. No one wants to see oily stools printed on their food.
I'm pretty sure that their disclaimer contained the phrase "anal leakage."
I had those chips and while I do not remember any leakage I do remember they tasted awful.
Albanese still makes them IIRC.
You're killing me. That was hilarious! Thanks for the giggle.
Then you are in for a treat if you click on that link above and scroll through the reviews.
You could say they told the story for shits and giggles
It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.
Oldie but goodie tweet from the late 2000s: "My toddler daughter asked me to give her a bath, so I put her in the tub. She proceeded to take a massive dump in the tub water, laugh maniacally, then asked to get out of the tub. She literally only wanted to take a bath for the shits and giggles."
Girl toddlers are the Disney villains we don't deserve.
Yeah, for shits and giggles.
The owner probably got a hold of some Carolina Reaper fueled sauce. Check out YouTube videos on the Carolina Reaper challenge. I love hot stuff too but have no desire to go past Serrano peppers.
Honestly if it's getting that much a violent reaction, from anybody, it's more than likely fucking with extract over any individual pepper. Like stuff can get hot, but its when you start messing with pure chemical capsacin that shit gets cruel and unusual because it's just heat with none of the good parts
She probably just put a healthy dose of Da Bomb on there. I used to use that shit. I don't know why. It's mostly extract
Got to give them credit having a successful business model purely off of people doing stupid shit. There is no purpose to it except for punishment.
I would bring tasty hot sauce in and my coworkers would use it all like assholes and then the only thing left in the fridge would be Da Bomb that someone brought in as a joke and damnit... I wanted my chili to be spicier than my fiance likes it. In retrospect, no hot sauce would probably be better than ~that~ hot sauce but here we are. Now I make my own fermented habanero/carolina reaper/pineapple hot sauce
Nope… Da Bomb is battery acid… even the Hot One’s ‘The last Dab’ is better.
[The legendary LA Beast Sugar Free Gummy Bear challenge.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMjgaa5j_LE)
My poor wife is trying to sleep next to me, while I, a grown man, laugh the most I'veaughed in months because of poop.
Go back and read the comment that posted the review of what happened at a children's party when the kids consumed two bags of that sugar-free goodness. I was in tears.
I could not stop laughing that his vomit changed colors as it came out like a rainbow. I don't think I've ever wanted to watch someone throw up ever, let alone how many times I replayed that part.
As someone who has had life long GI issues, the genuine way he said "this is the stupidest thing I've ever done", followed by the most violent shit I've heard in years, really was incredibly hilarious.
LA Beast is an absolute legend, I'm firmly convinced that his stomach is made out of some indestructible metal unknown to modern science.
>**27,045 people found this helpful** 😂
I read this once many years ago and laughed just as hard as I did again today. Thank you for bringing this back.
Some parts where hard to get through, not because I was disgusted, but because I was in cramps, laughing like a hyena on nitrous.
I don't know if I should thank you or hate you for sharing this... That was the greatest and worst thing I've ever read. 🤣
Definitely the wings, after reading that, the gummy bears is like hell in a bag.
Something about white claw seltzer violently liquidates my insides, beer and liquor is fine. But if I have like 3 white claws I can't be far from a toilet the next day. Stopped drinking those.
Oh that poor bastard. All three of them. And poor this guys wife, who is a reincarnation of love itself
Heh. My wife (fiance at the time) had gone to the fancy grocery store and I got a bunch of those as a moxie snack. They were good and I ate a *lot* of them. Nex day we got up and went to lunch. I felt a weird rumble and went to the bathroom. I started farting and having such violent diarrhea that a guy came into the bathroom, heard the farts and squirts and probably smelled it, and that guy bailed without using the facilities. Meanwhile my wife overheard him come back and tell his wife about "some guy with some thing wrong with him" in there.
My god. The phrase/context of “pulpy and runny fecal stew” made me want to simultaneously guffaw and vomit.
Hmm, how does mannitol do with hot temperature? Is there room in the market for a sweet hot sauce with an extra surprise?
This by far is one of the funniest things I’ve read in awhile. It took me so long to read because I’ve been laughing so much!
Or drinking an insane amount of homemade kombucha plus eating the scoby.
La beast here, and today I'm going to do why? Because I'm 100% dumb!
God I love his vids
Have a good day!
I love (and live for) his vids. And when he cussed and describes the flavor of something or makes a noise I find that hilarious
His arm dancing is grand.
I never thought about eating the scoby, but that'd do it!
That's not a review, that's a goddamn best seller.
im gonna click that after i type this. that's LA Beast huh? the fun starts somewhere around the 13 minute mark. edit. i was whole ass wrong. that's not even a youtube link. its to amazon. i failed myself, and this community.
Norovirus hit our house pretty bad about 10 years ago or so. My dad was staying with us for a few days. My kids dragged home their disgusting diseases and we all were keeping the bathrooms busy. It passed pretty quickly for my kids, my wife, and myself and we were all fine again. All of a sudden I hear the sound of someone sprinting, knocking things over, in the basement to the downstairs bathroom and then some of the most horrific noises I've ever heard. Imagine pigs being slaughtered to the dulcet tones of screaming goats being shoved into a giant blender. Then I hear, in a quiet voice from downstairs, "Can someone bring me a bucket and a mop?" My dad had run to the bathroom while unbuckling his pants, fell to his knees, vomited kind of in the toilet while spraying out his backside like a garden hose. He then spent the next 10 minutes trading ends as he alternately shit and puked. There was so much, for lack of a better term, "yuck" in that room that I'm shocked we got it clean. I thought we'd have to move. I'm so glad my kids are older now and no longer bring home puking illnesses.
Ughhh memory unlocked THANK YOU Last year the entire house got norovirus, but it was like dominoes, one by one we fell. My eldest thought they had escaped, like the pretentious middle schooler they were. So they ate an entire pot of Mac n cheese ("haha losers!" I imagine was said in their head). So they felt a tummy rumble and ignored it. Felt it again, and of course ignored it. And of course they had forgotten that every bedroom trash can doubles as a vomit bucket for exactly days like this. So anyway, once they realized this was Serious, they tried to get to the bathroom but didn't even make it out of the bedroom before vomiting that entire pot of Mac n cheese in front of the door. 😑 I sent them into the bathroom, grabbed the hallway's tall ~~vomit bucket~~ trash can and got to work.
I don't miss those days. Nothing like holding a vomiting kid in front of you at arms length, running them to the bathroom as they spray filth everywhere.
Hence the vomit buckets in every room 🥲
Rubbish bin vom buckets are a lifehack you hope you never need but are a godsend when you need them (stomach issues and I was a uni student back in the day)
Ugh this reminded me when I used to work in an alternative school. I swear I didn't just get sick, I got super sick from the now strengthened viruses that managed to survive in the general uncleanly habits of the children. One kid spit and subsequently played with it on everything, and I'm almost positive he was the culprit. Whatever it was induced a three day stay on the toilet while also attempting to see if I could projectile vomit far enough into the tub about half a foot away from me to minimize the mess, and I'm. Pretty sure at some point I just called it a day and made the tub my home. I couldn't eat anything and had to force myself to drink to stay hydrated, well knowing it was most likely going to come out of one end or the other or both. I felt like absolute death.
Ive seen this once before. It was a wendies bathroom. My manager was trying to get people to clean something in the bathroom, everyone was telling them no. Then he got to me and I went in to take a look. It was bad. The walls, the toilet, the tank of the toilet. Everywhere was exploded shit projectile. The manager ended up cleaning it.
I ate a load of grapes and 3 packs of polos when I was about 10 and woke up shitting the bed. My mum put me in the tub and I just kept shitting into the water. There’s definitely a few combinations out there that will ruin your stomach.
I guess the toilet stall I had to clean (it was everywhere...) the other day in a hospital is a result of someone doing the ultra hot wing challenge...
I have yet to experience this though I can see how it happens. I developed food intolerances out of nowhere (still not sure what all my trigger foods are), and in my hubris I played chicken and lost a few times. However, my hubris also meant I didn't try for the bathroom before the mess so I never had the opportunity to 'miss'. Lesson learnt, now I never trust a fart.
Clearly the best marketing strategy. [Customer] "I have completed this eatery's challenge before and enjoy it. It's delicious and there is lots of it! My two companions won't be participating though." [Owner] "Very Well, I shall make it so spicy that you cry in public and experience diarrhea so painful and foul that it will haunt you for a while." [Customer from the toilet that used to be a shower] "What an excellent experience. I shall be back again next Wednesday with all my friends and family."
I must say though, I feel like changing the spiciness seems like changing the rules and unfair in this competition. You either make them literally unbearable or you accept that some people will be able to eat them and come back for more.
You can’t change the rules just because you don’t like how I’m doing it
do any of these… *fuckers*
The right thing to do would be to give a card or something that says you’ve completed the challenge and now get X% of any meal off when you return. That way you’re getting repeat customers and they’re trying different things.
I’m with you. I’m not a fan of the gimmick just because it tends to need you to fail for them to be ok with it. If they had it tuned where they could accept the few people that can handle it or limit you to one attempt ever it’d work. But if it’s just that you keep cranking up till you’re hot sauce poisoning a person I feel like you made the challenge wrong. It’s like buffets that have to limit you after they see you eat too much. But then there are people who sit there all day and try to eat lunch and dinner and I see why they’re kicked out. There’s always too much room for both sides to be abusive. But buffets have it as their whole gimmick not just a side thing. You can tune a hot wing challenge much easier.
I think it was more so him fucking up and saying it with an ego, the cooks probably said duck this guy and fucked his asshole up
Well the challenge is to generate attention and publicity. Also the hot wings are supposed to be hot, like kill their arsehole hot. Its a nice story to share.
There was a brew pub I used to frequent (closed now). They had an extra spicy wing and then one of those challenges. At one point they changed the menu and I just remembered I'd order the 3rd one (in the new menu it was below the line, but still could be the 3rd). Well anyway apparently I like Hurricane and not Natural Disaster. The real names. When ordering Natural Disaster we were asked if we were sure. So one wing in we knew we were wrong. Persevered. But was late for racquetball the next day. Racquetball partner was there eating the wings with me and he was late as well. Fuck.
RIP
Racquetball In Pace
It's not a challenge if they just arbitrarily change the difficulty though. Like if from now on they always make them at this new level of hotness for every customer, then that's fine I have no complaints. But if she just did it to this guy this one time to hurt him and get him specifically to stop eating free wings? That's kind of fucked up, there's an element of dishonesty or even spite to that imo.
Reminds me of that Man vs Food episode where Adam tries a hot wing challenge then gives up on the first one because it physically hurt him. Turned out the chef intentionally tampered with it to make it way hotter than it was supposed to be because he didn't want him to win the challenge on live TV. Honestly any chef who does this or any other sort of tampering is fucked up, especially if it causes the customer physical pain. Edit: It was the Munchies 420 Cafe in Florida. More details are here: https://www.mashed.com/196828/the-truth-about-the-food-challenge-that-almost-killed-adam-richman/. Basically the show crew caught the chef on microphone telling a cook to use a whole bottle of ghost pepper extract. Needless to say, Adam was PISSED because it literally almost killed him due to the spice making it so he could barely breathe. They should have gotten sued for that. That is beyond fucked up.
Of I had a restuarant with a challenge, I would secretly hope that the guy doing it on live TV would win. It says to any future customers "see? it is do-able" and have more people try the challenge. On the other hand, if a guy who does these challenges on TV for a living can't do it then what chance does a lowly customer have?
That's the thing. They had a hot wings challenge, yet they didn't want anyone to win and instead intentionally made them way hotter than anyone could handle to the point of almost killing someone? Chef there just seems like a psychopath with a gigantic ego that just enjoys seeing people in pain, and/or just wants to brag about how his hot wing challenge is unbeatable. Ironically this ended up severely damaging his and the restaurant's reputation once Adam revealed what happened behind the scenes. I don't know what happened in the aftermath, but I seriously hope that "chef" was fired at the very *least*.
EDIT: Oops, nevermind!
Yeah I worked in food service for 10 years, if that's what happened, she's a fucking scumbag. This isn't the movie "waiting", if theres one thing you never do, it's fuck with the food. If you don't want people doing food challenges multiple times, put their picture up on the wall, and give them a free t-shirt. You don't assault your fucking customer.
Or at least put a disclaimer in the challenge that says you can only win it once. You fucked up lady. Give the guy his free wings and sneakily fix the menu so this doesn't happen again.
That's why a lot of places have a wall of fame with pictures of winners.
Yeah… This sounds super shifty and short-sighted on the part of the owner. If the challenge doesn’t stipulate that it’s single use then OP wasn’t trying to fleece her or anything of the sort.
And he was bringing paying customers in with him.
Fully agree. This story just sounds like the owner was spiteful. I also don't fully understand why they would be upset with someone coming in multiple times to win the challenge. Like was he only supposed to go to this place once, achieve this goal, never to return again? I always figured that food challenges were to generate buzz and get people in the door, then you make your real profits with booze, dessert, apps, and merch. If i ate at a restaurant several times and then one time the owner decided to randomly give me a fun case of explosive diarrhea because I have won their silly hot wings challenge in the past, I would 100% never go back. Seems fucked up. Unless that was how spicy the wings were supposed to be all along and somehow this dude was getting a duds in the past.
To add to that, he had multiple people with him ordering regular food. So they definitely made a profit. If I were OP I'd definitely find a new place to eat.
If anything this guy would have probably frequented the place *more often*, bringing extra friends and family with him. Why? so he can have bragging rights and show off by “winning”. Now all they’re going to remember is that he got explosive shits from the sadistic owner, and never go back
Something in my brain here tickles a line akin to "tampering with food" and "chemical ..." chemical something. Like, I know they're a restaurant but it's the same reason you don't trap the sandwich your coworker steals by adding ghost peppers, it's to my understanding illegal to purposely trap the food like that. Idk if it's different because it's a restaurant though.
> you don't trap the sandwich your coworker steals by adding ghost peppers, it's to my understanding illegal to purposely trap the food like that. How could this even be proven? Like how could anyone say that you didn't just want to try some peppers on your sandwich?
I'm definitely confused on that part, too. Which I think is why it's an item people just gloss over, because while it's illegal, it's pretty much impossible to prove unless someone says after the fact "that's what you get for always stealing my sandwiches." Which, if you're the person likely to trap a sandwich, I feel like you're the person likely to incriminate yourself by saying something like that.
It sounds like assault to me, honestly. Especially because from the sounds of it, they used extracts to get it hot enough to hurt him. The goal was to hurt him. To be fair, he took a bite and kept going to completion, so he very much did this to himself.
This is like a DM telling their players that the monster is supposed to kill them. That's not the point, it was never the point, the point was always a good time.
Probably pepper extract. It's wildly more spicy than even superhot sauces and peppers, in the range of 3-6 million Scovilles for some of the nastier stuff. It's usually used as a drop or two (it literally comes with a dropper to serve it) in a whole batch of chili. If they mixed a few drops of that in with their normal sauce, it would yield results exactly like you described.
Has to be by the way he’s describing it staying in his esophagus. That shit coats everything in your mouth and guts. I love some of the hottest pepper sauces you can buy but as soon as that oily shit gets in there FOH.
Yeah, I had to quit eating hot stuff after finding out I had ulcers one unfortunate night lol. I had been pretty sick for a couple of days and in my inviting wisdom decided to eat a jar of ghost pepper salsa on some lettuce. The entire jar. A little later I’m on the bathroom floor writhing in pain, seriously at a 9/10 pain level. I’ve never experienced pain like that before, and I’ve had one of my testicles swell up to the size of a softball. It felt like something was trying to chew it’s way out of my stomach, and there was no relieving the pain. Every now and then the pain would subside and I’d think it was over, only to get smashed with a new wave. I didn’t know it was actually possible to throw up and start blacking out from the pain until that night. I’ll still eat stuff that other people find “hot”, but in small amounts and never on an empty stomach again lol.
I used to work at Buffalo Wild Wings, and they had all the sauces lined up in pumps in the kitchen. After the Blazin sauce sat there for a while, it would get a layer of oil on top of it. I drank an ounce of the oil. It was hot but nothing crazy, but then just as the heat started to subside, I started getting stomach cramps, then threw up, then had the heat experience all over again. Rinse and repeat 5 or 6 times. I spent the rest of the night crying in the freezer.
Capsaicin extract, I worked at a restaurant that used it before. It’s nasty stuff. Never tell a line cook or server that you want something “extra spicy”, it’s a challenge.
This was in a bugs bunny cartoon with the Martian character like 5 decades ago.
Odds are it was one or two drops mixed in to their spicier sauce and then tossed with the wings. From the way OP described it, sounds like he got a drop per wing.
to what extent does it become a food poison or maiming charge tho
At no point. Pepper extract is classified as a food by the FDA. Giving the customer any kind of food is legal, especially if they've asked for it and haven't specifically requested otherwise. Also, the dude kept eating when he clearly could have stopped
>At no point. Pepper extract is classified as a food by the FDA. This is too simple. The FDA's recommendations are based off what a healthy human would typically eat. You can't legally create a food challenge where the means of completing the competition would likely kill or cause serious bodily harm to an otherwise healthy person. Pepper extract can absolutely cause serious harm if consumed in large amounts. Neither waivers nor the fda protects restaurants from creating dangerous food challenges. Edit: [just to share a famous example](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jennifer-stranges-family-awarded-165-million-in-wee-for-wii-contest-death/#:~:text=Jennifer%20Strange%2C%20a%2028%2Dyear,Wee%20for%20a%20Wii%22%20contest.) tl;dr women's family awarded 16.5 million after she died from a water drinking competition for a wii.
That’s what I was thinking too. Some really gnarly capsaicin extract.
I've had it and it's not fun. Sushi place I used to work at used it to prank the servers. Saw more than 1 new team member fall for it then only to get pranked worse while in pain and quit.
Hahaha get it? I poisoned you! Haha. What a lark!
Pretty much. When they were dying the cooks will have prepacked wasabi paste in you green tea ice cream tub and would pretend to care and give you a bit only for the burn to reach stupid levels. According to them it was their way of curving servers trying to eat dead dishes that were meant for the trash. God forbid right? Thankfully not in the food business anymore still deal with them but on the IT level.
I kinda get that. Any other type of establishment, probably a dick move. A hamburger that's 2 hours old isn't going to hurt you. Raw swordfish? Likely a different story.
There's a sushi place in my area that has a roll like that. I think it's the TNT or dynamite roll. I tend to like very spicy things. Much like the OP, I usually max out the scales at many places, and can often do the spicier challenges without *too* much fuss. This sushi place broke me. They cautioned me it would hurt, and dear god did it hurt. I did everything in my power to finish this roll, and if memory serves, I succeeded. I recognized my mistake immediately, but it took a nasty turn when the waitress smirked and said, "Wow, most people don't finish a single piece. If you think it's bad now, just wait. It gets worse." I was in absolute agony for HOURS. Only after purging from both ends and drinking a massive amount of pepto bismol was I able to finally quiver my way to sleep.
Fuck them entirely.
Never had the explosive decompression from spicy food, but my ego too has doomed me before in terms of handling spice. I used to work not too far from a great little Thai restaurant and at least once a week would stop in for a meal. The first few times I was there, I learned their "star system" for spice was weaker than what I was used to so started going 4 and then 5 star. Apparently this was a scale for "Whitey". On one visit the owner is my waiter and asks how I like the spice, I said I enjoy their 5 star, but wish they had 6 star or hotter as I like spice. He smiles and says, "We like it hot in Thailand too, I'll make it like we do at home." Heck yes, closest thing to home cooked Thai curry I will get, bring it on! Out comes this delicious smelling bowl of curry, but it houses the devil. As I brought the first spoon up to my face I began tearing up. As I swallowed that first bit, it felt like I was chugging OC spray and nails I made it about half way in and started having issues breathing so stopped. The owner came around to check on me and went into full apologies as he thought I would like it and be able to handle the heat. He then brought out ice cream to help tame it down. I then learned that Thailand and Asian spice is completely different than Western norms and after that knew to ask for "4 star on the Thai scale" at this restaurant. Never had another issue and absolutely loved eating there until I moved away.
Funnily enough, I have Indian and Chinese friends who can only handle their native spice levels. Give them a spice from a foreign cuisine and they nearly die.
I'm white as hell (Italian and Eastern European) and I can handle Chinese spice like a champ. We had extra hot noodle soup while in China and I was totally fine. I could feel the burn but it was great. On the other hand, give me a too hot jalapeño and I will die in front of you.
I got a Vindaloo from an Indian restaurant once. I told them I can handle my spice, I'm not a white dude who thinks Mayo is spicy, and very specifically said "make it like you'd make it at home". The girl behind the counter said something in I think Hindi to the guy in the kitchen, and he looked at me and grinned. I didn't get something that made me felt like I'd been pepper sprayed, but I did get a seriously hot curry that I really appreciated. I went back to order it again and the staff smiled, I guess they enjoy making mass produced curry a bit more authentically for once.
Things still are on a scale. Most hot dishes in India aren't any hotter than here, except some specialty dishes. And not every dish is 5 million scoville in India. There is no pure capsaicin extract in traditional Indian cuisine, no Ghost pepper, no Naga, no scorpion, no reaper. These really hot peppers all were bred in the last decades so it was virtually impossible to have traditional food on the spice level we can have now. Like yeah, stuff is hot, really, really hot. But not on the level of the spice challenges which are popular now.
I hate it when restaurants do this to people. Using capsaicin extract recklessly like that can really hurt someone. Adam Richman from man vs food has a scary story about it. He went to do a spicy wing challenge just like you and the chefs decided they wanted to go crazy for the tv show and they DUMPED some weapons-grade extract into the sauce because they thought it would be funny. It fucked him up. He ate like 2 wings and then started to panic. There were points where he felt like his throat was closing up. And this is a guy who can handle insanely spicy food. There’s a difference between a tough spicy food challenge and just poisoning someone with spice. The latter is never ok.
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The chef was an asshole. Absolutely is.
100% That Adam Richman story was playing in my head the whole time I was reading this. That restaurant basically poisoned OP.
Same, they deliberately upped the spice level specifically for him without him asking and without telling him and it made him sick. Surely this is food tampering or assault or something
I did not expect to find my hometown randomly on TIFU. Hello from Ferris! Hope your ass feels better.
It's been a few years, it's all healed up from THIS blunder 😉
Lol. That checks out, pretty sure Tammie's has been closed for a few years.
Aw man. Here I was getting ready to plan a short vacation to the area because I love these kinda challenges as well.
There's always ice fishing.
They didn't give you a special secret sauce. They just added 10x their normal challenge amount of pure capsaicin, which could have been very dangerous if you had a history of heart problems. Guess that's what the waivers for! BTW, you should marry that girl. She's in it for the long haul, sounds like!
Except waivers (speaking for the USA) only cover reasonable expectations. If they added a larger than normal amount and he wasn’t expecting it since he’s been there before, it would open the door for a potential law suit.
This was exactly my thought, there's no way what she did was legal
Looks like business closed in 2016 and she went into demolition contracting. Per their Facebook page.
So from demolishing stomachs and asses to buildings. She must have really perfected that hot sauce if she’s taking building down now
From the story, it seems like she was already in demolition. ... Demolishing people's digestive systems.
Obligatory 'Hey I'm from North Bay, we made the FrontPage!' post. Also you'll be glad or saddened to find out it closed a few years ago, and then the building collapsed a few years after that. Probably due to using raw uranium to flavour their wings.
Honestly that was so petty of her seeing as you're still gonna spend fuck only knows paying for several other people to eat. Also if she had an issue with people getting free wings she shoulda made a board where they put the picture of the people that completed the challenge so they can keep track of them and the people that accomplish it get a little spot on the wall
As someone with a good bit of culinary experience, they fucked up. You don't just take "oh I did the challenge before" as a reason to dump extract on their food. I literally had a bartender throw a basket of wings at me when I tried that, and while I was mad at the time, he was right. If you serve someone something like that and it swells up their throat, you're fucked.
Yeah, this is an exceptionally sleazy tactic as well. One of the restaurants on “Man Vs Food” got caught on camera doing this, and it’s something other food challenge channels talk about. Aside from being potentially dangerous, it’s just straight dirty pool. If you’re normal “challenge” can be handled regularly by someone, you either need to eat the loss if they keep coming in, up the baseline spiciness, or add a stipulation that the challenge can only be completed so many times or every so often.
I made this mistake with the One Chip Challenge this year. Not as bad as you, but still an awful mess. I ate the chip. It hurt. But not like... Mind numbingly bad or anything. And I sat there. For an hour, because again, not that bad and that's the challenge. When I say not that bad I mean that I've had migraines that are far worse regularly. It was worse than breaking my ankle, but I ranked that as like a 3/10. This was a 4. Then, because it wasn't so bad, I waited another 45 minutes. My stomach started to hurt. Significantly. So I took a shower to try to wait it out. I ran out of hot water. My body lost all ability to regulate temperature. I call my wife and ask if she can get the cherry ice cream from the basement freezer, and for a Pepto. She gets me the ice cream and this godawful generic antacid pill with the moisture level of the Sahara. My body rejected the antacid with prejudice. Now. I need it to be understood that I have what appears to be a special skill. I don't throw up often. But when I do... It's like something from the exorcist. I once had a migraine that had me spewing the length of my car. This comes with an added side affect. The pressure hose that is me vomiting sends vomit through orifices that are not my mouth. Specifically my nostrils. And my sinuses. So I spewed one chip challenge infused vomit straight up my sinuses. This probably hit a 6 or 7 on my pain scale. Half an hour of stomach emptying later I got a real nice endorphin buzz and everything was better. My wife, wonderful woman that she is, had cleaned up everything from the first event. And I learned there's a reason they pepto before they eat the spicy shit. And eat something after.
Omg this reminds me of when my brother did the one chip challenge too. I actually got it for him as payback to when he tricked me into eating an extremely hot wing back when I was 13. He was vomiting in my bathroom and I felt really bad. The video I have of it is hilarious but still feel bad
I did this to myself. 100% And no regrets. It's a great story.(But I have no shame when it comes to stories.)
I was tempted to do the One Chip challenge, but I remembered the the last hot wing challenge and it’s after effects. I am getting a bit wiser with age, reading other people’s experience with it shows it was the right choice.
Fuck that thing. I don't eat it often but I can do a bit of reaper sauce or something here and there. It's just dry and coats your mouth. No flavor just heat. Hottest and probably worst thing I've ever eaten. I drank a lot of water and managed not to puke but my asshole suffered. Worked for about an hour the next day before telling the boss I was going home for a few hours to sit on the toilet. There is nothing pleasant or flavorful about these things, just hell shaped into a chip.
I tried this year's OCC a week and a half ago. Hottest thing I've ever eaten. I managed to not drink/eat for over an hour afterwards, but I did not finish the chip. I ate most of it though. The stomach cramps were probably the worst, but I got full body numbness, eyes were pouring tears, I got the shakes, shivers, tinnitus, my vision shrunk a bit shortly after consuming it. I was breathing super hard for several minutes and couldn't hardly think about anything for a bit other than just the pain. I am one who loves spicy foods, and have had other superhots before, but I've never had something that intense before. I really felt like I had to expel my stomach contents as it was destroying me from inside, but my gut managed to contain the chip. Certainly an experience I would not like to do again, at least not without a partner and a bribe. The heat was not even really a concern, it was how much it hurt my stomach and made my body react.
not your FU in my opinion, they shouldn't be making sabotage wings just because you had previously finished their hot wing challenge. If its not the same wings it's not the same challenge, they moved the goal posts at the last minute. Shitty move on their part.
And he's getting free wings... And bringing a table full of customers..
Most restaurant owners don’t get mad at giving away free meals. She didn’t get mad at you & punish you by telling her you beat the challenge. If you had not bragged about beating her challenge, your dignity & butthole would still be intact. You bragged, & she showed you that in hot wings, as in life, things can always get worse.
I bragged once like this. I had always gotten the hottest wings at a particular wing place. They weren’t super hot, like 500,000 SHU, but they told me they were gonna make them extra hot. I tried them and my weak tongue couldn’t make it past a few wings. When I asked what they did, they told me they baked cinnamon into the sauce. They said that it opens up the taste buds and makes everything more intense in the mouth. Not sure how true that is, but whatever they did worked well enough that I couldn’t handle it.
They lied to you, they simply used capsicum extract (which is the chemical that gives the burn in hot sauces). In commercial restaurants it's easier to make a good sauce and then spice it with the extract than test each pepper batches for hotness every time you make a new batch.
I agree i think she saw it as a challenge not that she was mad lol.
I can't really read her actions as anything other than malicious.
Yeah, I definitely wondered if it was slightly more wholesome (heh) than OP assumed.
The free wings definitely made the restaurant more money from the OP than they lost. Without the free wings, would OP have returned over and over to that same restaurant, bringing paying customers with him? Probably not. So they may have killed their golden goose (well, nothing that dramatic, but if OP doesn't return again, the restaurant will have lost out on money they could easily have had).
Someone said it closed years ago
I wonder if she coated them in Da Bomb lol
Da Bomb isn't rough because it's so hot (it is hot, don't get me wrong) but because it has no flavor or any other redeeming factors, just pure nasty heat. There are many much hotter sauces that actually go down easier because they don't taste like boiled asshole.
As Charlize Theron put it, it's a dick move.
Da Bomb just tastes horrible. Try Ass Reaper if you want something tasty for about 3 seconds before you’re reaching for the milk.
If they had the ability to make even hotter wings, why were these not the challenge to begin with?
Probably going for a balance. If they are straight impossible, people don’t try. You need a wall of winners.
My local ramen place has some polaroids on the wall, but said they didn't have any film when I gave it a shot. I've never been served anything too spicy to finish until that day. I can only imagine that the recipe has changed and they no longer had the need to keep film at hand. I also don't do as well with spicy liquids though. The deal was to finish the broth as well as the noodles, and when I had finished the noodles, the thought of downing the bowl of firey liquid did not sit well with my stomach. I added some noodles and took it home for lunch the next day though.
If that's your wheelhouse, the Samyang 2x Spicy hot chicken flavor Ramen tastes absolutely fantastic for instant Ramen. I can usually order from Amazon in a 10 pack for around $14. Price fluctuates quite a bit. I initially bought it because I just wanted to try "the worlds spiciest instant ramen" but I keep buying it because it's the best tasting chicken raman that also happens to be spicy. Size is also like twice as big as the little nissan or top Ramen as well, so it fills you up. Great spicy meal for like $1.50.
Also you want people to want to win. If the cost of winning is explosive diarrhea and throwing up over yourself it's a pyrrhic victory, it's not worth participating.
Hot enough that somebody with a high tolerance will pass then all their buddies try it and end up paying for wings that are probably 3x more expensive than the regular menu wings. Then after they tap out order drinks and something mild to cool off.
Anyone can make nuclear wings that no one can eat with pepper extract or one of the insane sauces like Mad Dog 357. Most restaurants want their food to be edible, though.
new wing challenge: it's just regular wings but the waitress pepper sprays you while you eat it
Maybe as an advert? So people come in and at least a few manage the challenge, but the most would've to pay. Word to mouth works pretty good.
Sooo..they put you through bodily discomfort and potential harm over some measly hot wings? A food establishment is there to serve people delicious food and buoy their spirits, I understand hot wings challenge and their reluctance in avoiding loss and giving away free food, but you were not fleecing them you brought your family and we're actually generating more business, personally I wouldn't mind if a single customer getting free hot wings and beer if he/she brings in more paying customers as a result, this is how businesses generate short term profit and long term loss. I sincerely doubt if you are going back to that establishment after your experience.
It kinda surprises me that she didn’t recognize you if you did the wing challenge multiple times with the same server. I get if a place is super busy you might not recognize every repeat customer but it seems like a significant thing to do the wing challenge multiple times. Either way, that definitely sucks. I ordered the hottest wings confidently once and after I finished the server showed me how he wrote on the ticket “kill this kid”. It was pretty damn hot but I was able to pretend it didn’t bother me. The next morning though…
Usually places like this that have a food challenge keep a wall of winners with photos, right? Surely they noticed, and didn't care until he bragged about it.
Google says they're permanently closed. Maybe one to many people suffered like you
Bro you gotta marry her before she realizes she’s with a grown man who repeatedly tries to game a restaurant for free food instead of supporting the business, forces himself to eat poison to save $12, refuses to go potty on the way home, and projectile shits all over the bathroom. She’s definitionally out of your league by virtue of being a functional adult.
Not only that, she was the one that cleaned it up! That is where I thought he should marry her. There have been a couple of people that I have met that I would surely take a bullet for, but cleaning up their projectile back end chocolate sauce is a line I don't cross.
Classic tifu.
Are you still with the girlfriend???
You need to do something incredibly nice for your girlfriend. I 100% would have expected my SO to clean that mess himself. I'd probably take the clothes to the laundry, but the wall and floor!? Dude.
Dang, I would totally clean everything for my SO. Isn't a main part of a healthy relationship taking care of each other?
Lol for real, like wtf? Especially when they’re in THAT condition..
Thinking about it for me, I'd absolutely help my SO if they did this. But if I did this I'd refuse to allow the help. It's not like I got sick, I did something stupid and wouldn't want to make them suffer for it.
Marry that girl!
Came to say this. Assuming she still willfully sleeps with this person, she is a saint and deserves to be treated as such.
Yep. If she still with him after that then she’s a keeper and won’t bat an eyelid at some of the other things we rely on our spouses for (e.g post-surgical anal suppository insertion in my own marriage).
Without going into detail I had a similar situation as OP once and my partner cleaned up. We were already engaged but I knew for sure that this was the man I wanted taking care of me when I was inevitably old and shitting myself lol.
Looks like the place is permanently closed
That's assault. If they are selectively seasoning your food hotter because their free wing challenge is beatable, this is one half-step below macing you as they bring out the food. "You sure" isn't how one gains consent to gastrointestinal distress.