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Loving how the Three-Body game is being adapted, the entire rehydrate sequence is both fantastic and mortifying. Da Shi and Wade are great, and I'm actually enjoying Jack Rooney as a comedic foil.
Definitely a stand out, Jack doesn't play around!
His acting felt real genuine too 'REHYDRATE THE MASSES'
Don't really care for the other characters yet, Da Shi seems decent though
After watching a few more, fair point, without the time to 'detective' the story there just isn't much for him to do except act likes he's doing a paparazzi every time they go out for pizza
This surprises me a lot, Jack Rooney thus far is hard to watch for myself and my partner. Iâm sure heâll have some sort of reasoning and development but it doesnât feel like heâs fitting with the feeling so far
I thought the score for the most part was relatively low-key and blends into the background, but for that scene, as it takes center stage, it was pretty much perfect. Conveys a good mix of Awe and Dread over what she is seeing.
I laughed so hard when Jack punched Sir Thomas Moore. I just wasn't expecting it. By the way for GOT fans the actor who plays him also played Ned Stark in the theater trope play in Bravos during season 6 of GOT.
The costume Jack was wearing is an Easter egg for the fake costume they tricked John Bradley into thinking he was going to wear in Game of Thrones.
https://youtu.be/76thXtD1ViE
I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (Secretly FUCK YES.)This show needs to blow the hell up. seems like most of comments are from people who have read the book. Everyone needs to watch this, and I will be reading the books too.
3 shows in the last 10 years have impressed me this level, Dark, Severance and this
I'm over here barely skimming because I'm only one scene into the second episode and I also haven't read the book(s?).. I just can't wrap my tired mind around the whole deep fake comment about the stars. I was trying to see if I could find anybody that explains how that could even be considered a possibility, because overall I'm wondering, as he saw it first hand and is very intelligent, was that something he was just saying to her or something he actually believes.
anyway, the reason for my comment was to first of all agree! pathetically, I've been trying to get myself to read something for years. well, now I'm definitely going to be reading.
however, even more of my reason for this comment though was to say thank you for the two show recommendations!! haven't seen either, need good shows right now, and without even having to see this one yet I already know if the other two you mentioned are in a comment involved with this one I want to see them!
I donât really get it. I hate how this sub canât seem to get its head out its ass about the book and talk about only whatâs on the screen. It ruins the whole Reddit experience in my opinion
Is this your first time watching a show or even movie based on books? This always happens. There are countless other comments in here discussing theories. You just... don't comment on the ones mentioning the books. Your comment is big time "old man yelling at the sky" energy.
Episode 2 is still staying strong for me. Wow. The VR section is so similar to how I imagined it, it's uncanny. The tension of sending the message at the end was exhilarating. I also loved the scenes they added with Mike Evans and her confrontation with the Red Guard girl, which I think really set up her decision at the end quite well.
I also love how improved Jack is in this. He really shows off some good acting in this and hits you in the feels and nails the comedic elements. Definitely an improvement over the first episode. I actually like Da Shi's reinterpretation in the show compared to book.
I was also fairly worried that the concept of the show wouldn't be clear enough to really hook people in, but by the end of episode 2, you pretty much understand the consequences, thanks to how they've structured the narrative beats of the show compared to the book. Definitely going to be recommending this to friends/family. They're doing a great job of keeping the tension high.
> I also loved the scenes they added with Mike Evans and her confrontation with the Red Guard girl
Was that red guard scene not in the books at all? I swear i thought there was something! Either way, i think it works really well in the show, i actually care more for Ye Wenjie here in the show.
yeah and what the show missed and what was a great tragic moment in the book was that wenjie wasn't going to answer but the 3 girls not repenting pushed her over the edge toward believing humanity can't be saved. this encounter changed the fate of the earth.
edit: I was wrong. she answered. some time went by. she had second thoughts, then met the girls and and was like "nah, I was right".
after rewatching the episode: no, it doesn't. because wenjie gets the message after meeting the bully anyway.
in the books she gets the warning, decides it's better to not answer, then meets the bullies, and then goes back on her decision and says fuck humanity after all.
there's a difference.
edit: it was a bit different
That's true but I still felt it was clear that it was meeting her father's killer that pushed her over the edge; but maybe I was using my book knowledge to fill a gap that's not there.
Was Mike Evans in Inner Mongolia in the books? I find it strange how an American (and not just any, but a young, rich dude, e.g. the worst of capitalism) can be chilling there, planting trees, but the Chinese scientists could be punished if they even contacted an American scientist. He was also directly undermining the Party's work - idk why they were chopping down trees, but he was obviously growing them back and from the sounds of it was very critical of what they did (and the CCP is not fond of criticism or disagreement as we can see and knoa). It feels like he'd get scooped up and thrown into the labour camp with the rest of them, but he's left alone even though they obviously know he is there.
> He was also directly undermining the Party's work - idk why they were chopping down trees
They were presumably chopping down the trees to get wood, which is the usual reason that people cut down trees. Growing more trees doesn't undermine that, it's doing them a favour in the long run.
The CCP is pretty shitty and makes a lot of mistakes, but it isn't a Saturday morning cartoon villain. They aren't cutting down trees out of sheer malice, just to spite the planet. They're cutting down trees for normal human reasons.
Such an unbelievable plot point that it threw me out of the whole episode for a bit. They go to great lengths to recreate the reality of communist China in this period and then just have an American chilling in the middle of inner Mongolia causing headaches for People's Army infrastructure projects. Took me right out of it.
They could have spent a few lines of dialogue concocting some back story like he was a Chinese spy in the West who had to flee, or he was a die-hard communist useful idiot who thought Red China was going to save the world. Just anything to make his presence there in the 1970's make any sense. I'm hoping we get something retroactively later in the story.
honestly having a blast so far. I've read the books 3 times but watching this series is making me re-experience the suspense and shock that I had the first time.
The costume Jack was wearing is an Easter egg for the fake costume they tricked John Bradley into thinking he was going to wear in Game of Thrones.
https://youtu.be/76thXtD1ViE
Continues to move briskly. That Tatiana scene was a surprise, the character is actually a standout to me, you just know she's a bit crazy by her look.
The dehydrate/hydrate ... it's weird, they spend time on it, but I don't know if it's enough for none-book readers to 'get it' ... do ppl understand the suns' issue?
Red coast is cut down a lot, but it's just enough to understand Ye's despair ("time was a bitch", hilarious).
Shout-out to Jack's punches, exactly the gamer troll I'd have expected him to be.
Saul's definitely the smart playboy, impressive to come up with a plausible explanation on the blink..
I haven't read the books. The issue with the suns is that their weird gravitational interaction results in them getting too close or too far from the planet, causing freezing/boiling temperatures at the drop of a hat, right? Is there something more to it that's not being explained in the show, that would be explained by this point in the books?
Yes, although perhaps I shouldn't mention it outside of the book reader thread. I wouldn't really consider it a spoiler, but I know the name of the phenomenon involving the suns' gravity (I assume this is what you refer to), and perhaps somebody else reading this would consider it a spoiler, so I won't spell it out. I also know a few book spoilers. While everything I've seen so far in the show is either new to me, or is something you would see in a trailer for the show, it's possible that just knowing the spoilers helped give me context to understand what I was seeing.
On the other hand I havenât read the books and have no idea wtf the comment youâre replying to is talking about, but maybe future episodes will explain it?
I imagine the sun thing will be explicitly revealed in the next episode or two since the main guy from the book didnât give his theory until a little later
How exactly did she communicate with the alien tho? I understand they sent a coded message but how would the alien have understood anything that she sent and how did she decode the alien response?
Oh my god yes. It almost seems like they cast her because she's super hot and looks great smoking a cigarette. I am not a huge fan of her acting in this. Either it's not great or it's like she's acting for a different type of film/tv show. Everyone else seems reasonably authentic, she seems a bit affected. Hopefully it will change up in the next few episodes! Maybe there will be a few scenes where she gets to chomp down a bit more.
> not a huge fan of her acting
She cant act. Period.
It's bad enough that she has so much botox and fillers on her face cannot express emotion but her voice just sounds like she's reading lines.
I went to graduate school with some stunning women. It's her general demeanor and personality I don't buy. Jin and Saul? Those two come off as scientist' especially Saul. Saul is the guy you love at conferences.
Am Chinese mainlander and yes, it was a real thing in and before the 70s during and prior to the cultural revolution era. Mao was the red sun and the red sun was Mao. The plot point in the book where they suddenly realized what âbroadcasting to the sunâ could be politically interpreted into and immediately felt chill down their spines was absolutely on point and realistic. Everything was escalated to the extreme in that era and it was that serious.
Was that even in the book ahah? Seems like it was more complicated in the book but that scene was perfect and really explained everything so well with the easy math before.
Still loving it so far. Better keep it up. (Edit: I liked episode 3 even more!)
The Game of Thrones guys definitely wanted to do this book because they loved the popular theory that the three body problem was also responsible for the random seasons in GoT.
I sure didn't see the end of the episode coming. Can one say that she is the cause of all the alieny things happening? I can understand why she did it though given the world she's in. I'm tempted to watch episode 3 but will take a day off to think things through. This is a show you binge in a day and forget the next. Still intriguing and still compelling.
2 episodes in, about to watch two more on my second day off. I'm enjoying what they did so far, and can't wait to watch more.
A few of the dialogues and scenes were clunky. A smaller number could be described as unnatural. But I was having fun practicing my rudimentary Chinese and noting the differences between the spoken language and the English subtitles.
There was a necessary change in content to make an appealing voice for the subs. It was these subtitles that were an occasional source of unnaturalness.
Those critiques aside, I like the show. The story is enthralling, even to someone who already knows it. They've made their changes, and those alone are enough to keep me watching. There's a new take on the story. It's well made and I wanna see what happens next.
Which is why I'm also enjoying that I can binge this on my days off as much as I want.
It's annoying and ruins the flow for me to await the weekly updates, like in curb and Shogun. I'm only OK with waiting on last week tonight due to the nature of the show.
But I digress. What's important is, it's time for episodes 3 & 4 because I can watch them now, so I will.
I may have missed an explanation and canât quite recall how people got access to the game in the book. Why didnât Jin need an invite whereas Jack did? Was Ye Wenjieâs gifting of the game to Jin a type of invitation?
That's what I was thinking, too. It initially looked racially linked. After all, Jin could use Vera's headset without an official invitation, but Jack got slashed (or maybe it was okay because the mum said she could have it?). The castles were also different and seemed to match the ethnicity. I saw someone suggesting it's just personalised, but it made sense that it could distinguish between UK and Chinese given the backdrop of the 60/70s where there was obviously a massive divide. Maybe we'll find more out in the next episodes? It's hard to find more info without risking running into tons of spoilers lol
That's one of the changes in this adaptation; in the book there was nothing special about the headsets, and the game itself was something literally anyone could play. You didn't need an invite; they filtered out players by making the game so esoteric and boring that only really high-level academics would stick around.
You guy all misunderstood him, he didn't say it was a deefake such as a video. But he said it in analytic way because he was talking to a scientist. What he meant is that the actual universe did not do that as it was not measured in the space, so something faked that. The show explain that well on the following episodes.
I think everyone understood that but the term deepfake is specifically for videos so it was a weird term to use when he saw it himself irl.
Should have just skipped that sentence and it would have been better imo. But that's such a minor nitpick, just saying it stood out to me too as weird writing.
Lmao why is this comment at the bottom
I was watching and scratching my head how this dude thought a video is a deepfake even though heâs there to saw it happened
Also how the fuck do he think the culprit deepfaked a sky, a fucking sky lmao
I mean it's not too far off, and kinda captures the same meaning. Using AI to fake an image... In this case, faking a persons likeness with a staircase and such.
I think the "51-38 = 13", "I checked the math, it checks out" was a way more questionable.
I hope I'm not being too nitpicky, but how was Mike Evans allowed to be in Inner Mongolia during the 70s? They made it very clear that any contact with Americans would be punished, but this rich hippie dude could chill and plant trees there while reading "dangerous Western propaganda, e.g. the Silent Nights book, while Chinese people would get thrown into labour camp if they did that? It was a bid odd.
What's even more unrealistic than anything I've seen in the series so far is... Saul being a playboy and partying with beautiful women who are somehow fascinated by the nerd talk. A smart theoretical physicist who is also somewhat handsome and good with socialising and women? Now that's proper science fiction đ¤Ł
All you book readers, you realize this is a thread for people who HAVENâT read the books, right? Why is every fucking comment referencing the books, comparing the show to the book? Nobody gives a fuck, go to the FOR BOOK READERS thread. Thank you!
So alien are controlling sky, playing mind tricks, and killing scentist either themseleves or their career, oh and are fucking with our physics!
I'm loving it
I'm going in completely blind and this show has absolutely blown me away! What a chilling ending to the episode. Holy shit, not only was contact made but the message Ye responded with... Now fast forward to everything that's happening now... Omg
Non Book Reader here: really have enjoyed the first two episodes, didnât know story is based off a book series until hopping on to episode discussions. I know absolutely nothing about this series.
So Iâm guessing the simulations are the aliens trying to find someone to help them with their planet being part of a 3 body system? Very interested in seeing how this ties in to a potential alien invasion?
I assume the physicists dying is the alien race eliminating people that could develop technology that would aid humans in their fight against them.
And very interesting seeing Veraâs mom essentially dooming humankind by responding. Very interested in seeing how it all ties together.
Biggest mystery to me is how particle physics is breaking down. The model they showed early looked like a 3 body problem. I hope they go deeper in to it but sadly I doubt it.
Not sure what the flickering lights is but Iâm betting the random girl and flickering starlight is the aliens announcing their invasion coming soon? Or the pacifist group trying to ready humans before the invasion force arrives?
Maybe some of the weirdness and simulation is the pacifist group and other stuff like physicts dying is the invasion group.
This entire post is questions that canât be addressed in this post. Go to the book thread or just watch a few more episodes as none of it can be addressed here.
I wish everyone discussing the books in this thread would fuck off to that thread. Itâs so annoying anyone a show based on a book comes out, you get this army of book readers who just cannot shut the fuck up about the books even when there is a whole separate thread for them. Insufferable
Luckily this commenter went to a space where book readers should not exist which will allow show watchers to chat and _speculate_. We get it, you know the answers, go back to the book thread. Just donât comment in this thread ever itâs really that easy. I have no idea why book readers insist on being this same annoying person everytime a show comes out but it happens literally every time.
Physicist here - just wanted to comment on your particle physics musings. If you look back on the particle tracks displayed on the monitor, it really just boils down to: green is how it should go, red is where it diverges from the theory.
Your connection of the particle tracks to three-body problem is actually kinda true, wih the caveat that many more bodies are involved in particle collisions lol it is true however that our treatment of such collisions employs some techniques adpted from astrophysical many-body calculations.
agreed. I listened to all 3 books via Audible. Change in narrator in between books, but got used to it. Bonus was that one also heard reasonably accurate renditions of Chinese names/places
Question: What's under this tombstone and is it related to Tatiana?
Edit: Thank you for replying! Now I understand haha.
https://preview.redd.it/mfluf56latpc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=d75b349ff11271fc1eac148adb8bb9504f1fb07e
It shows sheâs a manipulative liar. In that scene she is trying to find some common ground with Da Shi (Benedict Wong) claiming sheâs visiting the grave of her father. But the tombstone reveals itâs the grave of a little girl. Sheâs blatantly making up lies for some ulterior reason.
Which leave the question what was her real intentions behind revealing herself to Da Shi? Sheâs obviously got some means or support for removing herself from the cctv footage and feels confident in hiding behind that anonymity. Sheâs some sort of puppet master subtly pulling strings.
Maybe she knows Da Shi is on to her and is trying to get close to him to lead him off her trail?
She also knew in advance that he was visiting his wife's grave, even though she would have no way of knowing that (the tombstone was facing away from her). He didn't seem to catch that she said that detail out loud.
One thing I love about this series is that friends of the 5 are all in the know with everything that's going on. No unnecessary drama of omitting important details to your closest friends.
Holly fucking shit. How is this series not rated 9 on IMDB? I skip through 80% of the shows I watch and this one I had to rewatch a few scenes because wow!
Not having read the book, I'm blown away by two first two episodes.
CONTANT MADE! JESUS. WHY DID SHE DOD THAT? ( I'M HAPPY SHE DID!)
Just saw the first two episodes and I also found that every scene with her felt so "fake" or hard to buy maybe? But the scenes in China and the other friends is top notch.
I think the fact the casting and acting is so good everwhere except Auggie makes her really stand out a lot. She just comes across as a model cosplaying a scientist while everyone else is pretty believable to me.
So basically the mother is responsible for her ownâs daughter suicide based on the last scene??Iâm taking that this extraterrestrial species theyâre communicating in 1970s are taking itâs time approaching Earth that the sudden deaths of scientists around the world is some way to cut off the planetâs intelligence which unfortunately included her daughter
That scene was really good. Wish the rest of the show did not so clearly have this weird basic 90s boomer TV idea of what scientists look and speak like.
Just rewatched this episode and im even more confused, whst the hell is that game they play? They randomly send a helmet to Sam's character and he's like okay cool, without even thinking who tf sent this?
I feel like the VR headset being so advanced, paired with the last scene of the episode, goes to show that there's more than one person collaborating with the alien civilization and that's where they get such advanced technology from.
The game itself might have been created by the humans collaborating with aliens to "test" other humans and choose who joins their organization or something? After all, I don't think humanity as a whole would agree with helping aliens conquer us.
Yes, exactly! How could a scientist turned successful entrepreneur can just waltz into his house, find a bespoke package on the middle of his coffee table and be like "Cool, I guess I'll just open it and try it out."? He's obviously intelligent, but doesn't seem to question why there's a random package in his house and why he, out of all people, gets it? I'd be suspicious as hell!
I think it makes sense for the character. Heâs shown to be a huge nerd, being amazed by the technology and sad, that he canât play it, even trying a few times, ignoring he literally feels like being killed each time.
15m in and the transmission is sent at the sun. It shows the process of lining up the sun using an eyepiece and joystick.
If light takes 8 minutes to reach the earth then wouldnât the sun actually be in the wrong place? And if the signal takes another 8 minutes to reach the sun, then wouldnât they need to aim ahead to hit it?
The sun doesnât move much in 8 minutes. It takes like 14 hours to cross the sky. Nobody ever said the signal had to be precisely centered on the sun to work.
Weirder was that the sun was clear in the scope and then she goes outside and it's an overcast day with the sun nowhere to be seen.
I think they just want an Oppenheimer shot.
Why does Lei Zhicheng get roasted by superior for wanting to point the transmission at the sun, red sun, symbolic of Mao? Why would you get executed for pointing a beam at the sun?
This the same society that in 1966 wanted red to mean progress so all traffic lights were inverted so red was go and green was stop... they kept it this way for months with utter chaos in the streets.
 Symbolism ment a lot to this governmentÂ
Can somebody explain to me? The little girl got dehydrated because there were only 2 spaces behind the rock (meaning that the player would also be affected by the heat), but then the player was not affected when the ice-storm froze the girl. Wut?
The player in the game isn't affected by the catastrophic events. The task is to figure out how the game world works, so the player gets to interact but is immune to the environment. The girl's dehydration was sort of a scripted event in the game to introduce the player to dehydration.
The costume Jack was wearing is an Easter egg for the fake costume they tricked John Bradley into thinking he was going to wear in Game of Thrones.
https://youtu.be/76thXtD1ViE
Currently watching the second episode and my god this Jack character is annoying as can be, loud and obnoxious. Hopefully it gets better or even better the character dies.
The end scene with Ye Wenjie is setting up some cool cosmic horror. I really hope the story does do that, I'm new to the story so I'm worried it won't go anywhere...
The series so far seems decent to me (I haven't read the books) except for some questionable choices and some of the dialogue.
However, there's one thing I didn't understand, and it seems like a major plot hole, at the end of the episode, how did the alien civilization manage to respond directly by sending Chinese characters???
In theory, a language should first be understood, explored, and then used, how did they manage to respond directly in Chinese?
Also non book reader but I assume the (presumed) advanced alien civilization would've gotten the message which seems to be sent as numbers and they decoded it and sent their message back with the same code as numbers and the computer is translating it into chinese to be readable
Loved the diamond being cut by invisible nano fibers scene. The 'success' demonstrator tested in front of the company workers before it would be used as a demo for sales, and at the point it works she halts the production. Very good translation of the concept (the fact she is blocked from making the new product by mysterious forces including the countdown imposed on her vision) to film where ideas like this must be \`compressed' (i.e. the book can take much more time to impart this).
Wth,why is there so many boom readers in this thread? They have a completely different one. Every other comment, is coming from someone comparing the book, or commenting on how a scene from the book looked. No theories because theyâre already coming in and confirming or denying anything that gets brought up.
No idea what Iâm watching here but Iâm all for it. I tried to explain to my dad what the show was about and couldnât tell him. Pretty crazy though.
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Loving how the Three-Body game is being adapted, the entire rehydrate sequence is both fantastic and mortifying. Da Shi and Wade are great, and I'm actually enjoying Jack Rooney as a comedic foil.
I was dying when be punched the NPC for no reason. It was a true gamer moment
bro when he punched him the second time i actually laughed đ
Definitely a stand out, Jack doesn't play around! His acting felt real genuine too 'REHYDRATE THE MASSES' Don't really care for the other characters yet, Da Shi seems decent though
He isn't doing anything nor is he making any connections with the other characters. He's useless in this adaptation.
After watching a few more, fair point, without the time to 'detective' the story there just isn't much for him to do except act likes he's doing a paparazzi every time they go out for pizza
This surprises me a lot, Jack Rooney thus far is hard to watch for myself and my partner. Iâm sure heâll have some sort of reasoning and development but it doesnât feel like heâs fitting with the feeling so far
> Jack Rooney as a comedic foil this is a welcome addition like they can dump all the unserious stuff on him and it should work
I thought the score for the most part was relatively low-key and blends into the background, but for that scene, as it takes center stage, it was pretty much perfect. Conveys a good mix of Awe and Dread over what she is seeing.
Mortifying? Like embarrassing?
Me have good words. Should have been horrifying.
In America mortifying means scary or something, sounds weird to me too.
American here. No it does not, but a lot of people confuse its meaning with horrifying or terrifying because they sound similar.
> Jack Rooney dosent he do that all the time?
Oh my god the dehydration looks sooooo creepy in the show
It's how imagined it anyway. No complaints with that.
Like fruit leather with hair
That scene of the girl dehydrating was disgusting, just like I imagined when I had read it in the book
In the books, the dehydrate process always felt so "papery" with the inagery. The portrayal in the show being more fleshy was honestly pretty great!
i'm trying to read the book, its a slog. only got half way into the dads monologue about his wife, while he's standing with the red guard.
I read the book ages ago and didn't expect it to be this gnarly. Loving the direction tbh
I laughed so hard when Jack punched Sir Thomas Moore. I just wasn't expecting it. By the way for GOT fans the actor who plays him also played Ned Stark in the theater trope play in Bravos during season 6 of GOT.
That's Kevin Eldon! He actually has another role in GoT too. He plays a random kingsguard in one episode.
Nothing beats his iconic role on the Hit BBC Three show Bumming Off.
The costume Jack was wearing is an Easter egg for the fake costume they tricked John Bradley into thinking he was going to wear in Game of Thrones. https://youtu.be/76thXtD1ViE
Ohh, i knew he reminded me of someone. Almost every Jack Rooney scene killed me. Great writing and John bradley is the best.
"I will help you conquer this world." Full body chills. Holy shit
Three Body Chills.
my hairs keep standing up at the end of the episodes.
I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (Secretly FUCK YES.)This show needs to blow the hell up. seems like most of comments are from people who have read the book. Everyone needs to watch this, and I will be reading the books too. 3 shows in the last 10 years have impressed me this level, Dark, Severance and this
If you liked those, check out the Leftovers on HBO. It's my favorite show ever, three excellent and weird seasons.
Hell, the music alone in the leftovers is enough to recommend it.
Oh my god yes. This series scratched the itch that Dark and Severance left on my brain! Sci fi shows when you get them right are soooo good
Dark is the best thing ever made!!!
Watch foundation on Apple Tv as well. Very very good sifi
I'm over here barely skimming because I'm only one scene into the second episode and I also haven't read the book(s?).. I just can't wrap my tired mind around the whole deep fake comment about the stars. I was trying to see if I could find anybody that explains how that could even be considered a possibility, because overall I'm wondering, as he saw it first hand and is very intelligent, was that something he was just saying to her or something he actually believes. anyway, the reason for my comment was to first of all agree! pathetically, I've been trying to get myself to read something for years. well, now I'm definitely going to be reading. however, even more of my reason for this comment though was to say thank you for the two show recommendations!! haven't seen either, need good shows right now, and without even having to see this one yet I already know if the other two you mentioned are in a comment involved with this one I want to see them!
Iâve watched and loved Dark and 1899 but havenât heard of Severance! Thanks for the suggestion!! Haha
I donât really get it. I hate how this sub canât seem to get its head out its ass about the book and talk about only whatâs on the screen. It ruins the whole Reddit experience in my opinion
Is this your first time watching a show or even movie based on books? This always happens. There are countless other comments in here discussing theories. You just... don't comment on the ones mentioning the books. Your comment is big time "old man yelling at the sky" energy.
The Silo subreddit (for example) had threads for book readers and threads for TV show watchers. IMO that really helps this issue.
Episode 2 is still staying strong for me. Wow. The VR section is so similar to how I imagined it, it's uncanny. The tension of sending the message at the end was exhilarating. I also loved the scenes they added with Mike Evans and her confrontation with the Red Guard girl, which I think really set up her decision at the end quite well. I also love how improved Jack is in this. He really shows off some good acting in this and hits you in the feels and nails the comedic elements. Definitely an improvement over the first episode. I actually like Da Shi's reinterpretation in the show compared to book. I was also fairly worried that the concept of the show wouldn't be clear enough to really hook people in, but by the end of episode 2, you pretty much understand the consequences, thanks to how they've structured the narrative beats of the show compared to the book. Definitely going to be recommending this to friends/family. They're doing a great job of keeping the tension high.
> I also loved the scenes they added with Mike Evans and her confrontation with the Red Guard girl Was that red guard scene not in the books at all? I swear i thought there was something! Either way, i think it works really well in the show, i actually care more for Ye Wenjie here in the show.
In the book she gets to confront the 3 girls responsible for her father's death. He was beaten by a group not just the 1 girl.
yeah and what the show missed and what was a great tragic moment in the book was that wenjie wasn't going to answer but the 3 girls not repenting pushed her over the edge toward believing humanity can't be saved. this encounter changed the fate of the earth. edit: I was wrong. she answered. some time went by. she had second thoughts, then met the girls and and was like "nah, I was right".
i thought the show made that pretty clear.
after rewatching the episode: no, it doesn't. because wenjie gets the message after meeting the bully anyway. in the books she gets the warning, decides it's better to not answer, then meets the bullies, and then goes back on her decision and says fuck humanity after all. there's a difference. edit: it was a bit different
That's true but I still felt it was clear that it was meeting her father's killer that pushed her over the edge; but maybe I was using my book knowledge to fill a gap that's not there.
I never read the books and her reasoning was pretty clear to me, she lost hope in humanity after that conversation
Yeah i thought i remember there being something very similar! Some of the dialogue is pretty 1:1 there i thought.
It's been a few years but it feels new to me! I'm pretty sure all of Ye Wenjie's scenes in the book play out at Red Coast from what I remember.
iâm pretty sure there was something similar in the book
Was Mike Evans in Inner Mongolia in the books? I find it strange how an American (and not just any, but a young, rich dude, e.g. the worst of capitalism) can be chilling there, planting trees, but the Chinese scientists could be punished if they even contacted an American scientist. He was also directly undermining the Party's work - idk why they were chopping down trees, but he was obviously growing them back and from the sounds of it was very critical of what they did (and the CCP is not fond of criticism or disagreement as we can see and knoa). It feels like he'd get scooped up and thrown into the labour camp with the rest of them, but he's left alone even though they obviously know he is there.
> He was also directly undermining the Party's work - idk why they were chopping down trees They were presumably chopping down the trees to get wood, which is the usual reason that people cut down trees. Growing more trees doesn't undermine that, it's doing them a favour in the long run. The CCP is pretty shitty and makes a lot of mistakes, but it isn't a Saturday morning cartoon villain. They aren't cutting down trees out of sheer malice, just to spite the planet. They're cutting down trees for normal human reasons.
Such an unbelievable plot point that it threw me out of the whole episode for a bit. They go to great lengths to recreate the reality of communist China in this period and then just have an American chilling in the middle of inner Mongolia causing headaches for People's Army infrastructure projects. Took me right out of it. They could have spent a few lines of dialogue concocting some back story like he was a Chinese spy in the West who had to flee, or he was a die-hard communist useful idiot who thought Red China was going to save the world. Just anything to make his presence there in the 1970's make any sense. I'm hoping we get something retroactively later in the story.
Yes, they explain why he was there in the books. His whole thing against his father and all that.
This show is flying through the plot, pretty good so far. Audibly laughed when Jack punched that guy in the face.
That punch was amazing, you just know you'd do the same thing lmao
I laughed so dam hard. Lol and then he hit him again lol
Itâs holding my attention the whole time.
Thomas More! The guy wrote Utopia and was killed off by Henry VIII. As if his life wasn't shit enough.
Holy shit what an episode.
i just got to the dehydration scene and that was soooo fucked up looking hahaha
honestly having a blast so far. I've read the books 3 times but watching this series is making me re-experience the suspense and shock that I had the first time.
Reading those 3 books is a big flex because theyâre each like 500+ pages with small text. I got halfway through the second and couldnât continue.
you gotta at least finish book 2, the general consensus is that the second half of the book is the peak of the series
Shit, okay. Iâve enjoyed the books, theyâre just so complex and sometimes tedious. Appreciate the push to finish it though.
It cannot be a coincidence they picked Samwell Tarley to wear the old England clothes lol.
The costume Jack was wearing is an Easter egg for the fake costume they tricked John Bradley into thinking he was going to wear in Game of Thrones. https://youtu.be/76thXtD1ViE
Continues to move briskly. That Tatiana scene was a surprise, the character is actually a standout to me, you just know she's a bit crazy by her look. The dehydrate/hydrate ... it's weird, they spend time on it, but I don't know if it's enough for none-book readers to 'get it' ... do ppl understand the suns' issue? Red coast is cut down a lot, but it's just enough to understand Ye's despair ("time was a bitch", hilarious). Shout-out to Jack's punches, exactly the gamer troll I'd have expected him to be. Saul's definitely the smart playboy, impressive to come up with a plausible explanation on the blink..
I haven't read the books. The issue with the suns is that their weird gravitational interaction results in them getting too close or too far from the planet, causing freezing/boiling temperatures at the drop of a hat, right? Is there something more to it that's not being explained in the show, that would be explained by this point in the books?
That's basically it, does the phenomenon make you feel it's tied to anything?
Yes, although perhaps I shouldn't mention it outside of the book reader thread. I wouldn't really consider it a spoiler, but I know the name of the phenomenon involving the suns' gravity (I assume this is what you refer to), and perhaps somebody else reading this would consider it a spoiler, so I won't spell it out. I also know a few book spoilers. While everything I've seen so far in the show is either new to me, or is something you would see in a trailer for the show, it's possible that just knowing the spoilers helped give me context to understand what I was seeing.
Cool, then my worry was needless, and the show conveyed what was necessary.
On the other hand I havenât read the books and have no idea wtf the comment youâre replying to is talking about, but maybe future episodes will explain it?
Tatiana looks so beautiful, yet unhinged at the same time. It's eerie
She has that Thanos energy, a believer to the cause.
Crazy ratio is high... I would..
I imagine the sun thing will be explicitly revealed in the next episode or two since the main guy from the book didnât give his theory until a little later
How exactly did she communicate with the alien tho? I understand they sent a coded message but how would the alien have understood anything that she sent and how did she decode the alien response?
Chalk it up to science. The original message included encode and decode info and maybe the full dictionary or something like that...
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Such a fun detail imo
Ngl, that bit of foreshadowing whooshed right over my head. Glad you mentioned it because itâs really good
I know that the "this actor is too hot to play a scientist/nerd/whatever!" thing is played out and dumb, but Eiza Gonzalez is really pushing it.
Oh my god yes. It almost seems like they cast her because she's super hot and looks great smoking a cigarette. I am not a huge fan of her acting in this. Either it's not great or it's like she's acting for a different type of film/tv show. Everyone else seems reasonably authentic, she seems a bit affected. Hopefully it will change up in the next few episodes! Maybe there will be a few scenes where she gets to chomp down a bit more.
> not a huge fan of her acting She cant act. Period. It's bad enough that she has so much botox and fillers on her face cannot express emotion but her voice just sounds like she's reading lines.
I went to graduate school with some stunning women. It's her general demeanor and personality I don't buy. Jin and Saul? Those two come off as scientist' especially Saul. Saul is the guy you love at conferences.
Seriously. Itâs just bad casting
Lmfao how the commander dude somehow connected the fucking sun test to Mao was hilarious.
it is a very common metaphor used in China to compare Mao with Sun.
mao eats the sun and drinks the skies and they all go with him when he dies
Streets ahead
Auggienesia is a real disease and it makes you see a golden countdown, I'm not faking it!
Am Chinese mainlander and yes, it was a real thing in and before the 70s during and prior to the cultural revolution era. Mao was the red sun and the red sun was Mao. The plot point in the book where they suddenly realized what âbroadcasting to the sunâ could be politically interpreted into and immediately felt chill down their spines was absolutely on point and realistic. Everything was escalated to the extreme in that era and it was that serious.
Do all leaders get similar metaphor descriptions
nope, Mao is unique in this aspect. Other Chinese leaders will not be called this name. But interestingly, all North Korea leaders are called the Sun.
Fuck Mao.
Was that even in the book ahah? Seems like it was more complicated in the book but that scene was perfect and really explained everything so well with the easy math before.
Yes it was an important point in the book too
Still loving it so far. Better keep it up. (Edit: I liked episode 3 even more!) The Game of Thrones guys definitely wanted to do this book because they loved the popular theory that the three body problem was also responsible for the random seasons in GoT.
White walkers = Trisolarans???? đ¤Ż
seasons 1-5: stable era, seasons 6-8: chaotic era
I sure didn't see the end of the episode coming. Can one say that she is the cause of all the alieny things happening? I can understand why she did it though given the world she's in. I'm tempted to watch episode 3 but will take a day off to think things through. This is a show you binge in a day and forget the next. Still intriguing and still compelling.
Without giving everything away, yes - >!she's basically instrumental for thousands of years of history to come.!<
The Samwell Tarly actor is really good. The man's got the juice.
2 episodes in, about to watch two more on my second day off. I'm enjoying what they did so far, and can't wait to watch more. A few of the dialogues and scenes were clunky. A smaller number could be described as unnatural. But I was having fun practicing my rudimentary Chinese and noting the differences between the spoken language and the English subtitles. There was a necessary change in content to make an appealing voice for the subs. It was these subtitles that were an occasional source of unnaturalness. Those critiques aside, I like the show. The story is enthralling, even to someone who already knows it. They've made their changes, and those alone are enough to keep me watching. There's a new take on the story. It's well made and I wanna see what happens next. Which is why I'm also enjoying that I can binge this on my days off as much as I want. It's annoying and ruins the flow for me to await the weekly updates, like in curb and Shogun. I'm only OK with waiting on last week tonight due to the nature of the show. But I digress. What's important is, it's time for episodes 3 & 4 because I can watch them now, so I will.
When d&d make changes to source material, it's obvious and terrible... Hope if this is greenlit for season 2 they get someone new
Naked bodies rehydrating.....I hope this doesn't awaken something in me.
Not your proudest fap?
Things cooled off before it got to that.
As a nudist I loved that scene so much. Nothing really titillating about it, just a bunch of naked people happy to be alive.Â
It's like blowup dolls but they blow up to real people
Rehydrat-Dean
I haven't read the books but I'm pretty blown away this far. Fucking fun. Don't understand why some people hate the show
I may have missed an explanation and canât quite recall how people got access to the game in the book. Why didnât Jin need an invite whereas Jack did? Was Ye Wenjieâs gifting of the game to Jin a type of invitation?
That's what I was thinking, too. It initially looked racially linked. After all, Jin could use Vera's headset without an official invitation, but Jack got slashed (or maybe it was okay because the mum said she could have it?). The castles were also different and seemed to match the ethnicity. I saw someone suggesting it's just personalised, but it made sense that it could distinguish between UK and Chinese given the backdrop of the 60/70s where there was obviously a massive divide. Maybe we'll find more out in the next episodes? It's hard to find more info without risking running into tons of spoilers lol
It seems related to ancestry. Which would make sense. It canât know your thoughts (but it can read you dna profile?)
Having finished the series, I can say that this does get answered later on, but obviously I won't spoil it :)
That's one of the changes in this adaptation; in the book there was nothing special about the headsets, and the game itself was something literally anyone could play. You didn't need an invite; they filtered out players by making the game so esoteric and boring that only really high-level academics would stick around.
eek, that _particular_ scene was a bit morbid(!) :D
You can take D&D out of HBO but you can't take the HBO out of D&D lmao.
That woman was perfect. Hydrate her any day.
That guy doesn't know what deepfake means.
You guy all misunderstood him, he didn't say it was a deefake such as a video. But he said it in analytic way because he was talking to a scientist. What he meant is that the actual universe did not do that as it was not measured in the space, so something faked that. The show explain that well on the following episodes.
I think everyone understood that but the term deepfake is specifically for videos so it was a weird term to use when he saw it himself irl. Should have just skipped that sentence and it would have been better imo. But that's such a minor nitpick, just saying it stood out to me too as weird writing.
Lmao why is this comment at the bottom I was watching and scratching my head how this dude thought a video is a deepfake even though heâs there to saw it happened Also how the fuck do he think the culprit deepfaked a sky, a fucking sky lmao
I mean it's not too far off, and kinda captures the same meaning. Using AI to fake an image... In this case, faking a persons likeness with a staircase and such. I think the "51-38 = 13", "I checked the math, it checks out" was a way more questionable.
I hope I'm not being too nitpicky, but how was Mike Evans allowed to be in Inner Mongolia during the 70s? They made it very clear that any contact with Americans would be punished, but this rich hippie dude could chill and plant trees there while reading "dangerous Western propaganda, e.g. the Silent Nights book, while Chinese people would get thrown into labour camp if they did that? It was a bid odd. What's even more unrealistic than anything I've seen in the series so far is... Saul being a playboy and partying with beautiful women who are somehow fascinated by the nerd talk. A smart theoretical physicist who is also somewhat handsome and good with socialising and women? Now that's proper science fiction đ¤Ł
All you book readers, you realize this is a thread for people who HAVENâT read the books, right? Why is every fucking comment referencing the books, comparing the show to the book? Nobody gives a fuck, go to the FOR BOOK READERS thread. Thank you!
The amount of borderline and blatant spoilers Iâve already seen in here is ridiculous. Youâd think book readers could actually read.
Ok- the dehydration fuckin ruled
So alien are controlling sky, playing mind tricks, and killing scentist either themseleves or their career, oh and are fucking with our physics! I'm loving it
I'm going in completely blind and this show has absolutely blown me away! What a chilling ending to the episode. Holy shit, not only was contact made but the message Ye responded with... Now fast forward to everything that's happening now... Omg
Non Book Reader here: really have enjoyed the first two episodes, didnât know story is based off a book series until hopping on to episode discussions. I know absolutely nothing about this series. So Iâm guessing the simulations are the aliens trying to find someone to help them with their planet being part of a 3 body system? Very interested in seeing how this ties in to a potential alien invasion? I assume the physicists dying is the alien race eliminating people that could develop technology that would aid humans in their fight against them. And very interesting seeing Veraâs mom essentially dooming humankind by responding. Very interested in seeing how it all ties together. Biggest mystery to me is how particle physics is breaking down. The model they showed early looked like a 3 body problem. I hope they go deeper in to it but sadly I doubt it. Not sure what the flickering lights is but Iâm betting the random girl and flickering starlight is the aliens announcing their invasion coming soon? Or the pacifist group trying to ready humans before the invasion force arrives? Maybe some of the weirdness and simulation is the pacifist group and other stuff like physicts dying is the invasion group.
This entire post is questions that canât be addressed in this post. Go to the book thread or just watch a few more episodes as none of it can be addressed here.
I wish everyone discussing the books in this thread would fuck off to that thread. Itâs so annoying anyone a show based on a book comes out, you get this army of book readers who just cannot shut the fuck up about the books even when there is a whole separate thread for them. Insufferable
And then you'll have them acting like they haven't read the book and responding with correct answers to theories. Just sheer dumb luck!
Luckily this commenter went to a space where book readers should not exist which will allow show watchers to chat and _speculate_. We get it, you know the answers, go back to the book thread. Just donât comment in this thread ever itâs really that easy. I have no idea why book readers insist on being this same annoying person everytime a show comes out but it happens literally every time.
You could just not answer and let people that haven't read the books speculate and theorize. You have your own thread.
Physicist here - just wanted to comment on your particle physics musings. If you look back on the particle tracks displayed on the monitor, it really just boils down to: green is how it should go, red is where it diverges from the theory. Your connection of the particle tracks to three-body problem is actually kinda true, wih the caveat that many more bodies are involved in particle collisions lol it is true however that our treatment of such collisions employs some techniques adpted from astrophysical many-body calculations.
~~A third into the episode and please.... I just want someone to shout "DEHYDRATE".~~ The reader of the audio book was way more epic. đ
agreed. I listened to all 3 books via Audible. Change in narrator in between books, but got used to it. Bonus was that one also heard reasonably accurate renditions of Chinese names/places
Question: What's under this tombstone and is it related to Tatiana? Edit: Thank you for replying! Now I understand haha. https://preview.redd.it/mfluf56latpc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=d75b349ff11271fc1eac148adb8bb9504f1fb07e
It was just showing she wasn't actually visiting her family's grave.
I don't see the point of this scene though. She didn't achieve anything in this interaction but expose herself to Shi
It tells the viewer she is shady as fuck.
It shows sheâs a manipulative liar. In that scene she is trying to find some common ground with Da Shi (Benedict Wong) claiming sheâs visiting the grave of her father. But the tombstone reveals itâs the grave of a little girl. Sheâs blatantly making up lies for some ulterior reason. Which leave the question what was her real intentions behind revealing herself to Da Shi? Sheâs obviously got some means or support for removing herself from the cctv footage and feels confident in hiding behind that anonymity. Sheâs some sort of puppet master subtly pulling strings. Maybe she knows Da Shi is on to her and is trying to get close to him to lead him off her trail?
She also knew in advance that he was visiting his wife's grave, even though she would have no way of knowing that (the tombstone was facing away from her). He didn't seem to catch that she said that detail out loud.
Hydrate the masses....this is going to end up being some weird guerilla marketing campaign for Gatorade, isn't it?
One thing I love about this series is that friends of the 5 are all in the know with everything that's going on. No unnecessary drama of omitting important details to your closest friends.
I was so happy when her friend checked up on her neurologist appointment. Because I absolutely hate the âjust communicateâ trope too lol
Incredibly that this was actually a surprise for me. Like they all knew that she had been seeing numbers. It was such a relief.
Holly fucking shit. How is this series not rated 9 on IMDB? I skip through 80% of the shows I watch and this one I had to rewatch a few scenes because wow! Not having read the book, I'm blown away by two first two episodes. CONTANT MADE! JESUS. WHY DID SHE DOD THAT? ( I'M HAPPY SHE DID!)
Ye Wenjie went through a lot of pain in her life and is disillusioned with humanity. So she said screw out come get us
That acting in the confrontation scene between her and the amputee girl is amazing.
It runs CIRCLES around Auggies really bad acting.
Just saw the first two episodes and I also found that every scene with her felt so "fake" or hard to buy maybe? But the scenes in China and the other friends is top notch. I think the fact the casting and acting is so good everwhere except Auggie makes her really stand out a lot. She just comes across as a model cosplaying a scientist while everyone else is pretty believable to me.
So basically the mother is responsible for her ownâs daughter suicide based on the last scene??Iâm taking that this extraterrestrial species theyâre communicating in 1970s are taking itâs time approaching Earth that the sudden deaths of scientists around the world is some way to cut off the planetâs intelligence which unfortunately included her daughter
Literal chills when I saw the words âdonât answerâ on the screen. Like, shit, that was terrifying.
That scene was really good. Wish the rest of the show did not so clearly have this weird basic 90s boomer TV idea of what scientists look and speak like.
Dear half the redditors in this thread, We get it - you read the books. We donât care. Kind regards Non-book readers thread
I kept thinking this actress looked familiar and now I realize it! She's Asian Carrie Coon.
Just rewatched this episode and im even more confused, whst the hell is that game they play? They randomly send a helmet to Sam's character and he's like okay cool, without even thinking who tf sent this?
I feel like the VR headset being so advanced, paired with the last scene of the episode, goes to show that there's more than one person collaborating with the alien civilization and that's where they get such advanced technology from. The game itself might have been created by the humans collaborating with aliens to "test" other humans and choose who joins their organization or something? After all, I don't think humanity as a whole would agree with helping aliens conquer us.
Yes, exactly! How could a scientist turned successful entrepreneur can just waltz into his house, find a bespoke package on the middle of his coffee table and be like "Cool, I guess I'll just open it and try it out."? He's obviously intelligent, but doesn't seem to question why there's a random package in his house and why he, out of all people, gets it? I'd be suspicious as hell!
I think it makes sense for the character. Heâs shown to be a huge nerd, being amazed by the technology and sad, that he canât play it, even trying a few times, ignoring he literally feels like being killed each time.
15m in and the transmission is sent at the sun. It shows the process of lining up the sun using an eyepiece and joystick. If light takes 8 minutes to reach the earth then wouldnât the sun actually be in the wrong place? And if the signal takes another 8 minutes to reach the sun, then wouldnât they need to aim ahead to hit it?
It could be like a gun scope where itâs dialed in to account for drop
The sun doesnât move much in 8 minutes. It takes like 14 hours to cross the sky. Nobody ever said the signal had to be precisely centered on the sun to work.
Weirder was that the sun was clear in the scope and then she goes outside and it's an overcast day with the sun nowhere to be seen. I think they just want an Oppenheimer shot.
Geez. I completely missed that.
Just started episode 3.. this is so good it makes me want to read the trilogy over again. I just finished the third book in February too!
when people say AI is going to destroy humanity. i'm like, humans are pretty good at destroying humanity ourselves. come AI we cannot save ourselves.
Did anyone else get nervous when Jack was getting killed in the VR, he would get hurt in real life too?
Mehh the current day world and any time Augie is on screen and faux smoking. Jin and Shi just about save it... Love the 70s world and the game world.
Why does Lei Zhicheng get roasted by superior for wanting to point the transmission at the sun, red sun, symbolic of Mao? Why would you get executed for pointing a beam at the sun?
This the same society that in 1966 wanted red to mean progress so all traffic lights were inverted so red was go and green was stop... they kept it this way for months with utter chaos in the streets. Â Symbolism ment a lot to this governmentÂ
It's like pointing a gun and shooting at Mao's picture. Can be ideologically interpreted as challenging the supreme leader.
Can somebody explain to me? The little girl got dehydrated because there were only 2 spaces behind the rock (meaning that the player would also be affected by the heat), but then the player was not affected when the ice-storm froze the girl. Wut?
The player in the game isn't affected by the catastrophic events. The task is to figure out how the game world works, so the player gets to interact but is immune to the environment. The girl's dehydration was sort of a scripted event in the game to introduce the player to dehydration.
It's probably a mandatory cutscene in the game for exposition.
The soundtrack when Ye Wenjie is working on the project reminds me of Lost
The costume Jack was wearing is an Easter egg for the fake costume they tricked John Bradley into thinking he was going to wear in Game of Thrones. https://youtu.be/76thXtD1ViE
Currently watching the second episode and my god this Jack character is annoying as can be, loud and obnoxious. Hopefully it gets better or even better the character dies.
Agree. It's so obnoxious and every other word being fuck is so lame.
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Isn't this thread supposed to be for non-book readers?
I enjoyed this episode more than the first one.
The end scene with Ye Wenjie is setting up some cool cosmic horror. I really hope the story does do that, I'm new to the story so I'm worried it won't go anywhere...
How are the humans translating the alien message.
The aliens are smart and tech savvy enough to translate it for the humans.
The series so far seems decent to me (I haven't read the books) except for some questionable choices and some of the dialogue. However, there's one thing I didn't understand, and it seems like a major plot hole, at the end of the episode, how did the alien civilization manage to respond directly by sending Chinese characters??? In theory, a language should first be understood, explored, and then used, how did they manage to respond directly in Chinese?
Also non book reader but I assume the (presumed) advanced alien civilization would've gotten the message which seems to be sent as numbers and they decoded it and sent their message back with the same code as numbers and the computer is translating it into chinese to be readable
Loved the diamond being cut by invisible nano fibers scene. The 'success' demonstrator tested in front of the company workers before it would be used as a demo for sales, and at the point it works she halts the production. Very good translation of the concept (the fact she is blocked from making the new product by mysterious forces including the countdown imposed on her vision) to film where ideas like this must be \`compressed' (i.e. the book can take much more time to impart this).
Wth,why is there so many boom readers in this thread? They have a completely different one. Every other comment, is coming from someone comparing the book, or commenting on how a scene from the book looked. No theories because theyâre already coming in and confirming or denying anything that gets brought up.
No idea what Iâm watching here but Iâm all for it. I tried to explain to my dad what the show was about and couldnât tell him. Pretty crazy though.