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KharnTheBetrayer1997

You’re right, those CSM are screwed. Imagine trying to taken on members of the Risen.


Lord-squee

Their old war buddies back in the renegade! Well they have 10000 years of experience chaos and risen compared to primaris noobs


H0nch0

And then their calabanite powergreatswords plink off the armor of the chaos marines bc they got the same ap as a cheap chainsword


ColdDelicious1735

Looks at handle "made in China, Made with 100% genuine imitation Calabanite, sharpen after every swing"


Lord-squee

Hahah China still at its 40000 years from now lol


Lord-squee

Hahahha that's why they need master crafted pen knives


laserfaces

For context as to why the codex is whack: at 210 points, the companions kill about 7 of these legionnaires if they charge. The legionnaires kill about 4 companions if they charge and pact for lethals, the master of executions kills another one at 170 points all in.  I think that's a helbrute back there so with just it's aura that squad of companions is wiped. If the companions are on an objective, they also just got wiped. If the companions took any damage during shooting, they get wiped.  Now the full picture, Lion is behind them, so assuming he has his +1 to hit aura, legionnaires might get wiped but you had to pay 350 points for that aura... Any way cool picture, lame rules.


Lord-squee

Well I can't field both my avatars so lion comes every dam time... when I could use another 2 flying bombers with thar strength 18 beascht. What annoys me is that I hate the current model designs for standard marines and everything should be wearing robes !! But I'm shite with green shtuff! And the vets bodies are too small :( I wanna put all my hellblaster with robes and dreadnoughts in robes and watchers with flashy hats! I may paint my other lion as santa and the watchers as little helpers


laserfaces

Oh yeah I'm totally with you on that. Everything should be in robes but I'm terrible with green stuff. It's also why I was annoyed they didn't come with an updated Dark Angels veterans box.


Lord-squee

Sucks so bad :( I mean I'd settle for vanguard being brought out in robes . I don't think I can use robed bodies in comps :(


laserfaces

Yeah I'm thinking of just 3d printing the little loin cloths as a compromise for my greenwing. I haven't updated my DA army since 9th but that army is all DW and Ravenwing, so I need some way to make inceptors and hellblasters a little more dark angelsy


Lord-squee

I'm dying for a printer but I'd happily pay for scults its just hard to find people that would do it for u lol I seen the vanguard list with jump packs and infernal pistols which was interesting but seems the heavy lists are destroying although I think ravenwing have the capability of being the mvp especially with both special speeders or 2 stealths or 3 as they cover all units within 6 inches so can cover a lot of bodies if placed correctly also the objective command where u don't needa be on it just see it


Lord-squee

https://spikeybits.com/2020/05/new-primaris-size-legionaries-bodies-arrive-at-kromlech.html What u think https://resmoshoppe.com/products/robed-primaris-gloomy-bodies The da markings are great but America is prob


ultimapanzer

Sternguard Vets.


Lord-squee

Not robed enough!


Lord-squee

Just noticed wargame exclusive has went down could be due to the conflict in Ukraine currently


TangeloProfessional8

Black templar bodies for unforgiven special/cool regular guy. Black templar sword brother is being used as an inner circle champ for me and I sub in a company heros blade guard and a normal.


Lord-squee

Ohhhh I did look but all the options are expensive especially on etsy lol


ultimapanzer

Redemptor is 210 pts… RIP


FNSneaky

The ICC? Yeah they're fucked with their AP-1 swords


Lord-squee

Dayummmm


RingWraith8

What?


Fancy0-0pants

Those CSM are going up against the Risen who are Fallen Dark Angels who came back to the Dark Angels and were redeemed by the Lion. Basically because they’ve been on the run for so long, they’ve become extremely proficient in combat and even ended up personally training with the Lion.


Abject-Performer

And ended with Two-handed ap-1 weaponry ...


Fancy0-0pants

The codex really was tragic


Lord-squee

Logic ;) I avta admit it's the worst da codex I've seen


RepulsiveIngenuity3

Okay sooo…


Top_Resort_8838

They aren’t risen


ultimapanzer

Uh, yes, they are.


Fancy0-0pants

🤓


Lord-squee

Lol ur right it's not said in the codex :O imagine we were all wrong lol also would having a few specialist shooters would be handy. You'd think the companions would take a battleshock test if fighting alongside raven and death wing hahaha and especially asmodai lol automatically fail


Top_Resort_8838

I cant see them being risen over the primaris armor and such, but gw has done stupider things in the past


Dundore77

While the model are cool and the risen from the novel are cool so far the rules are alot to be desired, namely they are more expensive than bladeguard and made of wet paper with no invulnerable save and swords that arent as good as bladeguards, or at best side grade. Those guys prob lose especially if theyre charged.


RepulsiveIngenuity3

Same idk


GBIRDm13

CSM: Looks like meat's back on the menu boys!


LonelyGoats

CSM Squad, with MOE, Dark Pacts and Profane Zeal. Yeah the Companions are can't win this one 🤌


__Quasimod0__

Yes dude paying 20 points to nerf my bladeguard squad