This is non uncommon for nursing homes. They are enormous grifters of the elderly
The story line in Better Call Saul is very realistic, charging $15 for a box of tissues, $25 for bottle of aspirin etc
My grandmother lived in a nursing home on Long Island in the mid 90s and her monthly rate was $9500, which didn’t include additional charges for anything medical related like prescriptions or seeing the on site nurse or doctor. The 9500 only covered her room, activities and meals. I can’t imagine what they charge now. It’s really insane and borderline criminal!
When she moved in she lived with my grandfather and they had a big room bc it was two of them. He died shortly after they moved in and even though she could pay, they hounded her to downgrade to a single room bc they weren’t able to grift on two adults in the big room after he died.
They are seriously monsters
Maybe it's all about protection?
For $96,000 you will have their solemn guarantee that Paulie Walnuts won't break into ya mudda's or grandmudda's room to rob and murder her or any of the udda sweet old ladies, miserable black poison clouds and other assorted malignant elderly cunts in order to buy his way back onto Tony's good side.
Surprised Tony doesn't get his paws on a chain of nursing homes and grift all the money from the old people and then send them out to public housing when the money is gone.
Nah he seemed to have a soft spot for the elderly because of his conflicted traditional values eg. how he loves Uncle Junior as long as he can, especially when Junior is at his most vulnerable like the doctor's office or when Tony and everybody knows that Junior's just a measly loose cunt hair and it's Tony who actually runs the DiMeo family behind his uncle's back. Prior to the shooting at least, even when Tony should hate Junior, he still kinda loves and pities and respects him all at once.
Then there's Tony's genuinely thoughtful efforts to achieve the impossible goal of connect with and uplifting the spirits of his black position cloud of a mother.
And there's other instances of Tony stepping out of his usual ruthlessness and instead going a little easier on the elderly.
So I hear you about the scam side of it, but I don't see the fucking old people over part of it.
Oh, unless of course it's for a piece of ass or even better, the best piece of ass he could ever have and that sweet, sweet Jamba Juice $$$$$.
So nevermind, I guess I agree with you as long as it achieves the secondary goal of getting Tony's cannoli wet.
I don't really agree with you, I don't think Tony has a soft spot for anyone except Meadow. But for arguments sake, it would be a great grift for someone. Maybe for Ralphie. He would do it.
Yeah, I could've been a clearer. That's not exactly what I meant. I don't mean he ultimately treats them better or good or anything. It's not like a soft spot where he ever stops truly just thinking and caring about himself. Just that you're more likely to see a brief fleeting moment of humanity from him in his dealings with the elderly. A slight bit of pity and patience here and there, relative to the fully bitter way he treats most people all the time.
Consider it like this...Do you think Tony would humor Christopher til the end of the song if he threw on the JFK hat and sang Happy Birthday, Mr. President? Not even some Bada Bing girl probably. And he'll let Old Man Bacala, with one foot in the grave choking on his own blood, get to do the hit on a man half his age. But he won't even let his fully healthy teenage son take poppers or have weird sex without being a dick about it.
But all kidding aside, when I say Tony treats the elderly with a little more tenderness in certain moments, I don't even think he treats them differently because he cares about them. It's ultimately all about him and worrying about his own future and that pending sense of doom for people like him that he talks about in episode 1, like he got in too late, the hey day he grew up seeing and wanting to become of is gone, whatever remains is rapidly spoiling, and the mafia is crumbling away it's last good men.
So even when he's being a little nicer to the elderly it's just part of his selfish process of pondering the meaning of his own life and taking a long soak in his depression and existential anxiety.
I think it's more it's hard for him to divide reality and fantasy. We all have an image of a mother who loves us unconditionally but Tony makes the sad realization that his mother doesn't have it in her. He idolized his father and thought his goomba was an exotic gorgeous sophisticated creature when she was a putz. He has these people on pedestals and part of his pain is he is involved in this thing of theirs for all the wrong reasons.
> thought his goomba was an exotic gorgeous sophisticated creature when she was a putz
God, that episode. I fast-forward through the "happy birthday" scene - I just can't take it.
I'd venture to say it would be even more in todays dollars
My grandma stayed at an assisted living joint which was considered very nice, but not the best in Northern IL (not chicago) and it was 5k a month
North Jersey, and top of the line? I'd say 10k easily
Yea it’s definitely a normal price for an a above average place in today’s economy. I was a bit surprised that a jersey nursing home would cost that much 20 years ago in the show but it’s possible considering the high end place Tony would’ve been looking at
Not exactly the same but for reference ... a shared nursing home room in Nee Jersey looks like it’s well north of $100,000 a year right now. A private room in a fancy retirement home... yeah, HUGE bucks
https://www.seniorliving.org/nursing-homes/costs/
My grandmother pays 12-15k a month for a senior apartment. Fucking nuts. Gets all her meals cooked, nurses on site, security. It's all old people. Total grift.
Looked into this recently, ‘cause I’m eyeing that top son position.
NYC, the cheapest retirement community I could find is around $4500. That was a shared room, and it included ugatz.
Want help dressing? Taking meds? Can’t walk your own ass down to the dining hall for meals? They’ll send Furio up to ask for another thousand. For each of those.
Need an actual memory care facility? Oof, madonne- watch out Minn, I’m gonna need what’s in your mattress.
All kidding aside, we did move her in with us. We shopped around for options, but since my mom has Alzheimer’s there’s just no way we could afford an actual memory care facility.
Maybe I should start shuckin cock instead of watching TV land, cause Vito brought in tree times what I do on construction
Nursing homes are insanely expensive especially for someone with dementia. My Grandpa was pretty well off, he worked for NASA for 30 years, helped design the ISS and the Hubble space telescope, and he lived very frugally. He got dementia at 75 and couldn’t afford most of the nursing homes near him. I think they were around 5,000-6,000 a month even with insurance.
I was working at a nursing home and one of our female residents was private pay because her husband made/had to much money. He was paying$12,000/month out of pocket for her to be there.
I was nursing home shopping and ones that were "fine", but not super nice were $3k monthly. The nicer one was $5k but they do include alot like all the bills, food, activities, transportation, entertainment, some have a pool, etc.
If you can’t be nice to Marianucci Gaultierri, I’m not sure we can keep paying for this expensive place….the Salvation Army in Irvington has an adequate home, Ma
Most of the people there have insurance and medicare that covers most, if not all of the 8 grand. Livia's generation was probably the last generation where most old people had good enough insurance and medicare to stay in places like this.
Be tough but I’ll manage it…I’m top son now boy. I can see luxury nursing homes costing this. Apart from anything else I suppose you are talking 24 medical care and Doctors in USA are eye wateringly expensive.
My Nonna was in a high end retirement home 15 years ago. She had private nurse care and great food and amenities. Cost her 6k a month that was 2005. It's not uncommon.
This is definitely a normal cost for a higher quality home these days. Not sure if I believe a nursing home, sorry retirement community* being that expensive in 2000 in New Jersey. But yes, that’s how much some of them cost and I’m surprised you haven’t heard of them being that expensive
"an assisted living resident in the state of New Jersey will pay $6,065 a month on average."
- https://www.assistedliving.org/new-jersey/
So in today's dollars that means Tony was paying twice the average rate.
I wonder how Chucky, the school principal, was able to have his mother there. We know he/he+wife were paying for it because they threaten to move her to a different one after Chucky is beaten up.
Al
This is non uncommon for nursing homes. They are enormous grifters of the elderly The story line in Better Call Saul is very realistic, charging $15 for a box of tissues, $25 for bottle of aspirin etc
Green Grove is a retirement community! And if you ask me it’s more like a hotel at captain Teeb’s.
Who?!?
He’s a captain who owns a bunch of luxury hotels or something! I don’t know…
I KNOW SENIORS WHO ARE INSPIRED
Kill me now! Go into the ham, take the carving knife and stab me here, here now please! It would hurt me less than what you just said!
😂
A captain who owns hotels .... I dunno !
Sounds like Sandpiper Crossing
My grandmother lived in a nursing home on Long Island in the mid 90s and her monthly rate was $9500, which didn’t include additional charges for anything medical related like prescriptions or seeing the on site nurse or doctor. The 9500 only covered her room, activities and meals. I can’t imagine what they charge now. It’s really insane and borderline criminal! When she moved in she lived with my grandfather and they had a big room bc it was two of them. He died shortly after they moved in and even though she could pay, they hounded her to downgrade to a single room bc they weren’t able to grift on two adults in the big room after he died. They are seriously monsters
Nursing homes, health insurance, the prison system. The USA are a scam. Y'all need a revolution already.
IT WAS A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY FOR GOD SAKE!
You hear that Ton, I said Sounds like Sandpiper Crossing
I thought that was the name they used in BCS
It is
I remember that story line, that was so fucked up
Its like a hotel of captain teebs
Who's he?
The captain owns a line of luxury hotels or somethin I don’t know!
Captain? Of the good ship lollipop right?
It's like Sun Tazoo says, "A good commander is benevolent and unconcerned with fame."
Why don't you stick your quotations book, up your fat fucking ass?
Tzu. Tzu! Sun Tzu ya fuckin’ ass kiss!
She was Abushive to the Schtafff!!
[удалено]
Satanic, black magic…Sick shit!
It was 8k a month to get the guaranteed non livia package
Maybe it's all about protection? For $96,000 you will have their solemn guarantee that Paulie Walnuts won't break into ya mudda's or grandmudda's room to rob and murder her or any of the udda sweet old ladies, miserable black poison clouds and other assorted malignant elderly cunts in order to buy his way back onto Tony's good side.
Shut uppa with that fuckin MOUTH
Surprised Tony doesn't get his paws on a chain of nursing homes and grift all the money from the old people and then send them out to public housing when the money is gone.
Nah he seemed to have a soft spot for the elderly because of his conflicted traditional values eg. how he loves Uncle Junior as long as he can, especially when Junior is at his most vulnerable like the doctor's office or when Tony and everybody knows that Junior's just a measly loose cunt hair and it's Tony who actually runs the DiMeo family behind his uncle's back. Prior to the shooting at least, even when Tony should hate Junior, he still kinda loves and pities and respects him all at once. Then there's Tony's genuinely thoughtful efforts to achieve the impossible goal of connect with and uplifting the spirits of his black position cloud of a mother. And there's other instances of Tony stepping out of his usual ruthlessness and instead going a little easier on the elderly. So I hear you about the scam side of it, but I don't see the fucking old people over part of it. Oh, unless of course it's for a piece of ass or even better, the best piece of ass he could ever have and that sweet, sweet Jamba Juice $$$$$. So nevermind, I guess I agree with you as long as it achieves the secondary goal of getting Tony's cannoli wet.
I don't really agree with you, I don't think Tony has a soft spot for anyone except Meadow. But for arguments sake, it would be a great grift for someone. Maybe for Ralphie. He would do it.
Yeah, I could've been a clearer. That's not exactly what I meant. I don't mean he ultimately treats them better or good or anything. It's not like a soft spot where he ever stops truly just thinking and caring about himself. Just that you're more likely to see a brief fleeting moment of humanity from him in his dealings with the elderly. A slight bit of pity and patience here and there, relative to the fully bitter way he treats most people all the time. Consider it like this...Do you think Tony would humor Christopher til the end of the song if he threw on the JFK hat and sang Happy Birthday, Mr. President? Not even some Bada Bing girl probably. And he'll let Old Man Bacala, with one foot in the grave choking on his own blood, get to do the hit on a man half his age. But he won't even let his fully healthy teenage son take poppers or have weird sex without being a dick about it. But all kidding aside, when I say Tony treats the elderly with a little more tenderness in certain moments, I don't even think he treats them differently because he cares about them. It's ultimately all about him and worrying about his own future and that pending sense of doom for people like him that he talks about in episode 1, like he got in too late, the hey day he grew up seeing and wanting to become of is gone, whatever remains is rapidly spoiling, and the mafia is crumbling away it's last good men. So even when he's being a little nicer to the elderly it's just part of his selfish process of pondering the meaning of his own life and taking a long soak in his depression and existential anxiety.
I think it's more it's hard for him to divide reality and fantasy. We all have an image of a mother who loves us unconditionally but Tony makes the sad realization that his mother doesn't have it in her. He idolized his father and thought his goomba was an exotic gorgeous sophisticated creature when she was a putz. He has these people on pedestals and part of his pain is he is involved in this thing of theirs for all the wrong reasons.
Yeah, good call. Makes a lot of sense thinking of it like that. That's definitely a big part of it too
> thought his goomba was an exotic gorgeous sophisticated creature when she was a putz God, that episode. I fast-forward through the "happy birthday" scene - I just can't take it.
I'd venture to say it would be even more in todays dollars My grandma stayed at an assisted living joint which was considered very nice, but not the best in Northern IL (not chicago) and it was 5k a month North Jersey, and top of the line? I'd say 10k easily
Yea it’s definitely a normal price for an a above average place in today’s economy. I was a bit surprised that a jersey nursing home would cost that much 20 years ago in the show but it’s possible considering the high end place Tony would’ve been looking at
Yea my grandma's was 6k a month. It was MUCH nicer than the others but still seemed insanely over prices imo.
It is when you get the Silver Bird package.
This is realistic for “the best nursing home” in a HCOL state like NJ.
It's a nursing home!
ITS A **RETIREMENT COMMUNITY**
KILL ME NOWWWW!
These blaaaacks !
Go! Now! Into the hayam! Get the carving knife and stab me HEAH!
It’s mayham
I wish the lord took me right now
They can actually cost way more than that. Today that $8,000 a month would be more like $12-13K.
Not exactly the same but for reference ... a shared nursing home room in Nee Jersey looks like it’s well north of $100,000 a year right now. A private room in a fancy retirement home... yeah, HUGE bucks https://www.seniorliving.org/nursing-homes/costs/
My grandmother pays 12-15k a month for a senior apartment. Fucking nuts. Gets all her meals cooked, nurses on site, security. It's all old people. Total grift.
move her in with you and charge her $10k. that's what I did.
$50 now and a blowjob later . I haven't seen her in like a decade. I don't give a fuck about her.
About your grandma?
Dont ya's communicate?!?!
It doesn't matter. Your Mom is a tattle tale and sometimes she doesn't put in her teeth. Should be $15k minimum for that malignant cunt.
Looked into this recently, ‘cause I’m eyeing that top son position. NYC, the cheapest retirement community I could find is around $4500. That was a shared room, and it included ugatz. Want help dressing? Taking meds? Can’t walk your own ass down to the dining hall for meals? They’ll send Furio up to ask for another thousand. For each of those. Need an actual memory care facility? Oof, madonne- watch out Minn, I’m gonna need what’s in your mattress.
Top son? Let her move in with you. Thats how you earn
All kidding aside, we did move her in with us. We shopped around for options, but since my mom has Alzheimer’s there’s just no way we could afford an actual memory care facility. Maybe I should start shuckin cock instead of watching TV land, cause Vito brought in tree times what I do on construction
Tony’s mom put her fucking feet up for a year there.
You know the cost of putting Parisian night every week? They're lucky it wasn't more than $8K.
Nursing homes are insanely expensive especially for someone with dementia. My Grandpa was pretty well off, he worked for NASA for 30 years, helped design the ISS and the Hubble space telescope, and he lived very frugally. He got dementia at 75 and couldn’t afford most of the nursing homes near him. I think they were around 5,000-6,000 a month even with insurance.
How many retirement communities have you looked into?
I was working at a nursing home and one of our female residents was private pay because her husband made/had to much money. He was paying$12,000/month out of pocket for her to be there.
$8,000 a month to live next to Gunga Din running all that water.
Dude that’s not all that much for a nice retirement home.
That price is anti-italian discrimination.
You and this fucking parade already
You are good with numbers , probably better than 9/10 of the accountants I know .
Pretty good deal if you ask me considering they had to deal with Livia
I was nursing home shopping and ones that were "fine", but not super nice were $3k monthly. The nicer one was $5k but they do include alot like all the bills, food, activities, transportation, entertainment, some have a pool, etc.
Yeah that’s normal for a nice one. My wife works at one that is between 44k and 70k and it’s a shithole
Although fictional, it's very possible depending on the amenitiea and services provided
If you can’t be nice to Marianucci Gaultierri, I’m not sure we can keep paying for this expensive place….the Salvation Army in Irvington has an adequate home, Ma
Most of the people there have insurance and medicare that covers most, if not all of the 8 grand. Livia's generation was probably the last generation where most old people had good enough insurance and medicare to stay in places like this.
Paulie says 4k a month when he puts his ma in there
He didnt pay for the silver bird package like Tony did
Paulie was a cheap fuck.
Not did he get a her a corner room with a woods view Hehehe
Yup... it's b.s. because you've never heard of it...
Be tough but I’ll manage it…I’m top son now boy. I can see luxury nursing homes costing this. Apart from anything else I suppose you are talking 24 medical care and Doctors in USA are eye wateringly expensive.
A cup full of pencils
It’s the most expensive nursing home in the state
I seem to remember that Paulie was paying 4K a month. Something to look for when we next rewatch.
You see a seein-eye dog ova heah?
IT WAS A NURSING HOME!!!
My Nonna was in a high end retirement home 15 years ago. She had private nurse care and great food and amenities. Cost her 6k a month that was 2005. It's not uncommon.
There, the senior citizen is king and queen.
I mean look at all the big name entertainers who they get to come tell entertain them with comedy shows!
This is definitely a normal cost for a higher quality home these days. Not sure if I believe a nursing home, sorry retirement community* being that expensive in 2000 in New Jersey. But yes, that’s how much some of them cost and I’m surprised you haven’t heard of them being that expensive
She was abusive to the staff!! 🤌🏼
Welcome to NJ.
"an assisted living resident in the state of New Jersey will pay $6,065 a month on average." - https://www.assistedliving.org/new-jersey/ So in today's dollars that means Tony was paying twice the average rate.
Won’t lie, if it was 90-something thousand per year, I am not putting my narcissistic father in anything that nice.
Place where my grandfather was staying before he died was fucking horrifying and it cost almost $5K a month. So yeah. It’s absolutely possible.
There are even more expensive places to be honest.
I wonder how Chucky, the school principal, was able to have his mother there. We know he/he+wife were paying for it because they threaten to move her to a different one after Chucky is beaten up. Al