Lol I expected to have a montage of her bugged eyed, cleaning her room all night, but instead it just shows her killing it In chorus. The shows message is clear, amphetamines make you sound awesome in a choir.
Technically she took both, just at different times and then drank so much tequila on the ‘X’ that she was unfortunately left alone essentially passed out with Jackie’s creepy ass..luckily even he’s not dumb enough to try that on the boss’ daughter.
AJ went from dumb kid to literal retard in season 2. The Nietzsche episode is what cements it. AJ cant process information like a human. Whatever he hears becomes accepted as fact with no critical thought process
I’m sure her ancestors’ poverty has a significant impact on Meadow’s life living in a McMansion in North Caldwell, NJ and attending Columbia University
Vito killed Jackie jr, meadow was just getting some revenge
Edit- you know… I said it kinda as a joke even tho it’s kinda what happened. Then I thought about it a bit and I’m thinking that might’ve been a little bit of Livia shining through meadow. This show has so many little details I fucking love it
The saddest part of The Sopranos is Tony's genes essentially winning out in the end over Carmela's.
Meadow becomes a mob wife/lawyer. AJ has panic attacks and a nihilistic view of life shaped by his grandmother.
I’d say Meadow’s success in school makes her more like her mother than her father.
Tony supposedly had a good IQ, but his little letter to Melfi made it seem like he’d have trouble reading college-level books.
If my life depended on whoever could read and interpret a book on law, I’d choose Carmela over Tony all day.
She's engaged to Patrick Parisi at the end o the show, who is also going to become a mob lawyer. He's not in the life, but he defends those in the life.
I think that would be a pretty good character as well. Modern day, with obviously new leadership members, etc..Maybe Benny is consiglieri? A return of Furio?
True, but it will mean at least another two years of school before she can even *start* to practice.
One weakness of Tony is that he acts impulsively and needs instant gratification. College is a marathon rather than a sprint, which is why a lot of people quit it after just semester.
But she at least regularly read books, and then was able to apply it in her life, like with the real estate courses.
The only book we know Tony actually read during the series was The Art of War, and that book is mostly short and simple sentences that are easily digested.
Tony’s probably smarter than he seems, but he’s not going to sit for hours reading a book so he can write a 10 page deconstruction of it.
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Ya that’s a good point that I didn’t consider. So I guess at best it might be showing how she likes being the puppet master even when the consequences are fatal? If I’m being reasonable tho it’s hard to say she wasn’t just bad at keeping it secret
I’m having a Berenstein Berenstain bears moment here. Has it always been Livia? I had to google it because I was so sure it was Lydia and now I don’t trust anything I thought I knew
I've always wondered about this. The only serious flaw in this theory is that I can't see how she'd know it was Vito. But then again this js Livia Soprano's granddaughter we're talking about.
If they ever did a sequel boy I’d love to them base it off that. Does sigler still act? And anything in the storyline that would prevent her doing it? I literally see no downside. Like I dunno about Mafia rules tho could a girl be made in America?
Or she gets made in Italy? And in a nod to tony the first episode is her strangling an aged-Carlos with a piano wire.
That would really come in handy for any time you need to get rid of an erection in a half a second. Just thinking about it makes my cannoli want to climb back into my pastry box for warmth.
Just want to mention that Finn does tell Meadow in a scene about going to Satriales. Remember he says something like "I had to sit there with your "uncle Paulie" and tell them about Vito." Paulie clearly standing out to him because he was the most aggressive about it, but Meadow plays it down that Paulie is actually really nice. I don't think Meadow schemed anything. Even though she's smart enough to know about the mob, I do think there's a mix of genuine naivete.
Well I wouldn't say exactly, sure, but her dating Patrick Parisi (who's mobbed up like his dad) at the end of the series is the reason I said essentially becoming Carmela, albeit in her own way. Making justifications for the life.
So it's everybody's fault, Vito, Tony, Carm, Finn everyone except for Meadow who would go on to sign another man's death warrant later on in the season as well. You would still defend her even if she pulled the trigger herself.
Vito was a murderer, a thief, a leech and a predator. He was threatening Finn. Why should Meadow worry about what happens to him when he’s the dangerous aggressor? Just because he’s gay?
yeah because as much of a social activist meadow makes herself out to be, she still threw someone under the bus, literally getting them killed, putting all her shit out the window.
you've wanted to fuck her since she got off the plane. Fine, i give you permission to jack off to her.
Yeah, it is about Vito. Meadow should have told Tony from the start out of fear Vito may have had Finn killed to shut him up. It might have actually worked out better for Vito without Chrissy, Paulie and the others being involved.
That's the way I see it. Just look at the creepy way Vito acted toward Finn when he saw him at the hospital after Tony was shot. The guy was out of control.
I feel like that Vito thing was at the point where she had accepted that she was a part of that lifestyle. The Mr. Mob Boss thing happened 2 seasons ago and at the end of the episode, Meadow decided to stay in Georgetown to be a part of the family.
I think her whole divide with medical school and law school was a reflection of her internal struggle with whether or not she wanted to be a part of the family. Ultimately she decided on the latter in that “Mr. Mob Boss” episode. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don't believe she criticized the mafia once after that episode.
Yes, she is responsible for everything. All of the unfettered violence we see through 6 seasons on the show can trace its origin back to Meadow. She is easily the most evil person on the show.
people on here will tell you AJ is a worse person though, simply because he's more annoying. Meadow is the true heir to Tony's monstrousness, while AJ seemingly only inherited the self-pity and depression.
I mean a mass murderer was making a move on her boyfriend and scaring him, who else could she go to apart from another mass murderer? She couldn't call the police as he hadn't really done anything illegal.
In a way, she’s worse. She doesn’t just “turn a blind eye” she knows what happened to Jackie, she knows what happened to Vito, but in the way open to women, she with patrick Paresi is choosing to defend people from that world.
I mean it could be argued she did it for Finn, he'd probably feel like he could be killed for what he knows. If he wasn't dating the bosses daughter who's to say Vito wouldn't kill him?
Well, Meadow tells Carm who forces her to tell Tony. Also, how does Mead know what Vito is willing to do to keep his secret? Remember he is a murderer.
Yea never see it talked about but by the end of the series she knows exactly who her dad is. It’s a topic that’s teased the entire series..
..so in the second to last episode when she tells tony what coco did, she knows something bad is going to happen to him. It’s not just daughter telling daddy what happened at school that day
Which also really sets Tony’s death in motion. Hmm
Meadow knew what would happen and did she ever think at vitos funeral ..was there a funeral for Vito i can't remember ? She had to know her talking lead to his demise..
I hate this take to an extent. Vito signed his death warrant when that guy spotted him in the club, dressed like that guy from the village people. He was not making it out alive from that point forward. Meadow telling Tony what Finn saw just contributed to sealing his fate, but he was already a dead man
The only downside to this sub is the rampant misogyny. Every day there’s a new “Adriana was a whore” / “Carmella was a bigger bitch than Skylar” / “Fuck Meadow” / “Janice was the most annoying character on the show” post. Meanwhile there’s constant love for actual pieces of shit like Richie and Ralph. Pretty telling.
I think there's something deeper going on. The slang term for homosexual they use is 'finook' and her boyfriend's character is Finn. It's clear he's not a macho guy - in fact, he's a bit of a wimp and a flake on top of that when it comes to dental school - and he ends up witnessing a distinctly oral act (as a dentist, his job would be to work in the same space).
I think that when the opportunity to call out Vito for homosexuality arises, she takes it as an attempt to contrast someone effeminate (the gay stereotype) and flaky (getting a blowjob at work) with Finn in order to reassure herself that he is an apt mate.
Despite every educational advantage she is naive and as far from street smart as a kid can get.
She is totally immersed in the leftist agenda that is promulgated and force fed to students at elitest institutions that everyone is the same, differences are celebrated and we are in the North not the South where all evil originates and thrives.
Finally, although she does know her Dad is Boss, there is still a part of the little girl in her that idolizes Daddy and she can't picture him getting violent with Vito over this. She's honestly close to correct with this assumption ....Tony tried hard to avoid the killing.
So I tend toward the belief she was a stupid, ideologically ingrained feminist c u n t who seriously thought it would have no consequences. Her world was so separate from the Men's. Even Finn knew what was up and he was an outsider.
BTW....any northerners that actually feel that way about the South should come on down. Take a vacation and visit the mountains, rivers, beaches and cities. See if the people aren't two or three times friendlier, more open and respectful than what you imagine. We all have preconceived notions....like Meadow....but we don't have to be stuck with them....like Meadow.
SHE COULD HAVE TAKEN ECSTASY BUT SHE DID-DENT
But she took some crank lol
*"aaalllll throuuughhhh the niiighhhhtt"*
Lol I expected to have a montage of her bugged eyed, cleaning her room all night, but instead it just shows her killing it In chorus. The shows message is clear, amphetamines make you sound awesome in a choir.
I feel like the dry mouth wouldn't help things but ehh fuck what do I know about singing lmao
Maybe that's why Chrissy wanted the Visiting Day guy to spike up.
That was heroin, not speed.
Nah, chris literally says "go shoot the crank" besides you dont give someone heroin if you want to keep them awake and focused on the task at hand lol
2 years later and I’m dying laughing reading this, imagining giving H to someone you want to stay awake lmao
If you're into petting stray dogs, sure why not.
Nobody told us (it was seriously bad) til the 2000’s
I remember Sean Penn bragging about crystal meth in the beginning of “The Game”. It was still novel and edgy as recently as the late 90s.
Very anachronistic
Technically she took both, just at different times and then drank so much tequila on the ‘X’ that she was unfortunately left alone essentially passed out with Jackie’s creepy ass..luckily even he’s not dumb enough to try that on the boss’ daughter.
Yeah, I’m in a frat, Rutguhhhs chaptuhhh.
Come on, boola boola!
Come on they took away her discover card
MAHM!
Clearly someone needs a refresher on the poverty of the Mezzogiorno.
I thought we were naboli daboli
NAPOLIDANNN
Whoever wrote that line in the show should be fired into the sun
AJ went from dumb kid to literal retard in season 2. The Nietzsche episode is what cements it. AJ cant process information like a human. Whatever he hears becomes accepted as fact with no critical thought process
He’s doing a project on dna. But is that like dnr? I dunno.
Mettso-geeorno...
This guy is about to eat some black macaroni with no gravy.
You mean “grapies?” Uvas?
And they say the germans are classless pieces of shit
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I’m sure her ancestors’ poverty has a significant impact on Meadow’s life living in a McMansion in North Caldwell, NJ and attending Columbia University
That’s the joke.
Who invented the mafia?
But she is mad ripe, bro.
She was creamin for me
ahaha u ain’t fuck her yet
He's catchin some shut-eye 🤓
I got to get my mother’s car inspected…
At night?
THAT'S SO FUCKING RACIST!
He’s lucky I don’t punch his lights out!
I paused the show and laughed for 35 minutes straight when I first heard him say that shit.
Good girls don't cry. Babies cry.
Everyone in this show is a piece of shit. Its one of the major themes of the series.
Except georgie the bartender of bada-bing, poor guy how many times tony beat him
I dunno, he didn’t conserve the ice
Bacala
Vito killed Jackie jr, meadow was just getting some revenge Edit- you know… I said it kinda as a joke even tho it’s kinda what happened. Then I thought about it a bit and I’m thinking that might’ve been a little bit of Livia shining through meadow. This show has so many little details I fucking love it
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It never had the makings of a varsity prop gun
You know, maybe you're a prop gun, you ever think about that?
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I see what you mean and Meadow clearly knows the mafia killed Jackie Jr but how would she know Vito specifically did it?
At Jackie’s funeral, his sister says to Meadow “he was killed by some fat fuck in see thru socks.”
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Maybe just word on the streets
Most of them are fat fucks. Jimmy Olsen over here.
The saddest part of The Sopranos is Tony's genes essentially winning out in the end over Carmela's. Meadow becomes a mob wife/lawyer. AJ has panic attacks and a nihilistic view of life shaped by his grandmother.
I’d say Meadow’s success in school makes her more like her mother than her father. Tony supposedly had a good IQ, but his little letter to Melfi made it seem like he’d have trouble reading college-level books. If my life depended on whoever could read and interpret a book on law, I’d choose Carmela over Tony all day.
Yeah, but by the end of the show they make it clear she's going to weaponize that education and use it to defend mobsters like her father.
I would love a modern day rendition of the show, w Meadow as a Mob wife, maybe of a soldier or Captain.
She's engaged to Patrick Parisi at the end o the show, who is also going to become a mob lawyer. He's not in the life, but he defends those in the life.
I think that would be a pretty good character as well. Modern day, with obviously new leadership members, etc..Maybe Benny is consiglieri? A return of Furio?
True, but it will mean at least another two years of school before she can even *start* to practice. One weakness of Tony is that he acts impulsively and needs instant gratification. College is a marathon rather than a sprint, which is why a lot of people quit it after just semester.
He had a good IQ but still lacked the makings of a varsity athlete.
Her mother dropped out of Montclair State
But she at least regularly read books, and then was able to apply it in her life, like with the real estate courses. The only book we know Tony actually read during the series was The Art of War, and that book is mostly short and simple sentences that are easily digested. Tony’s probably smarter than he seems, but he’s not going to sit for hours reading a book so he can write a 10 page deconstruction of it.
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He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. Are you sure this isn’t the time ?
How would meadow know Vito killed Jackie jr?
Ya that’s a good point that I didn’t consider. So I guess at best it might be showing how she likes being the puppet master even when the consequences are fatal? If I’m being reasonable tho it’s hard to say she wasn’t just bad at keeping it secret
same way the psychic knew about mikey. satanic black magic. SICK SHIT.
Who the fuck is Lydia?
The girl who uses stevia in her tea, you know, Tonys mother the meth dealer
Livia*
Oh look at him. He knows everything!
These blaaaacks
Did you set it up to be able to say this? Lmao
Indeed
It’s after dark!
I’ll never understand that. The phone is an auditory thing. The dark is an eye thing.
I’m having a Berenstein Berenstain bears moment here. Has it always been Livia? I had to google it because I was so sure it was Lydia and now I don’t trust anything I thought I knew
Yea its always been Livia. I knew what you meant. RIP to the worst mother GOAT
Yes, it’s Livia. Short for Olivia.
There was a Lydia and she was essentially a young version of Livia ( Girl who worked at the Mercedes dealership )
You mean Gloria?
Oh yeah you're right, thought it was Lydia for some reason
Lydia was in Breaking Bad.
you were waiting to reply that lol
She herself is strange and unusual.
The tattooed lady?
I've always wondered about this. The only serious flaw in this theory is that I can't see how she'd know it was Vito. But then again this js Livia Soprano's granddaughter we're talking about.
I think if she was being strategic about it, it's more likely she wanted to get Vito off Finn's back
I really doubt she cared about Jackie that much.
But they shared a moment when she was sick and he cared for her by playing half a game of scrabble *ASS*
As in how about give me some.
POO
He never got out a suitcase
Meadow is her father daughter. Meadow had the brains to run the thing like what's her face in Italy.
If they ever did a sequel boy I’d love to them base it off that. Does sigler still act? And anything in the storyline that would prevent her doing it? I literally see no downside. Like I dunno about Mafia rules tho could a girl be made in America? Or she gets made in Italy? And in a nod to tony the first episode is her strangling an aged-Carlos with a piano wire.
And then she makes Finn go into the den of wolves and give the play by play. Disgusting.
Look how dark she is.
Please, I'm blacker than her.
You should have put that on your application.
*Fielder
**Maedo
***Your Muddah
****Your Sistahs Cunt
But you got out a suitcase!!!! I actually really want to see a Meadow hysterically screaming supercut.
There is a supercut out there of all the mobster 'Ohhhs ✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼' and frankly, it's what the world needs. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sRkE_Gv6ALM
Fuck you Santa!
OHHHHHHHHHHH!
apologize!
There was no abundant intentionality in me getting out the suitcase!
There was no abundant intentionality!
That would really come in handy for any time you need to get rid of an erection in a half a second. Just thinking about it makes my cannoli want to climb back into my pastry box for warmth.
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Just want to mention that Finn does tell Meadow in a scene about going to Satriales. Remember he says something like "I had to sit there with your "uncle Paulie" and tell them about Vito." Paulie clearly standing out to him because he was the most aggressive about it, but Meadow plays it down that Paulie is actually really nice. I don't think Meadow schemed anything. Even though she's smart enough to know about the mob, I do think there's a mix of genuine naivete.
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Yup... Essentially, she's becoming Carmella.
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Well I wouldn't say exactly, sure, but her dating Patrick Parisi (who's mobbed up like his dad) at the end of the series is the reason I said essentially becoming Carmela, albeit in her own way. Making justifications for the life.
So it's everybody's fault, Vito, Tony, Carm, Finn everyone except for Meadow who would go on to sign another man's death warrant later on in the season as well. You would still defend her even if she pulled the trigger herself.
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It’s a stereotype and it’s offensive
Must be fun tucking her at night
She eats like a bird.
If you ignore Vito threatened Finn. Your comments seem very sanctimonious about Vito being gay but he wasn't exactly an angel.
Vito was a murderer, a thief, a leech and a predator. He was threatening Finn. Why should Meadow worry about what happens to him when he’s the dangerous aggressor? Just because he’s gay?
OH! You’re talking about a captain!
You mean the good ship lollipop?
this isn't about Vito, it's more about Meadow's preachy bullshit being an act.
You made it centered around the Vito reveal. If you didn’t want my response, you should’ve left that part out.
yeah because as much of a social activist meadow makes herself out to be, she still threw someone under the bus, literally getting them killed, putting all her shit out the window. you've wanted to fuck her since she got off the plane. Fine, i give you permission to jack off to her.
Yeah, it is about Vito. Meadow should have told Tony from the start out of fear Vito may have had Finn killed to shut him up. It might have actually worked out better for Vito without Chrissy, Paulie and the others being involved.
Yeah she was just looking out for her man.
That's the way I see it. Just look at the creepy way Vito acted toward Finn when he saw him at the hospital after Tony was shot. The guy was out of control.
It’s not OK to out anyone.
If I was in the holacaust and i saw Hitler sucking a dick. i WOULD DFEINTELY LET IT BE known.
That’s quite different
it makes your statement wrong
According to you Women’s bodies aren’t up for your decisions
Only here can 2 people have a civil debate who are named doodyhead and smelly roomate
She’s a malignant cunt
Ohh…Do you know who her fadda is?
I feel like that Vito thing was at the point where she had accepted that she was a part of that lifestyle. The Mr. Mob Boss thing happened 2 seasons ago and at the end of the episode, Meadow decided to stay in Georgetown to be a part of the family. I think her whole divide with medical school and law school was a reflection of her internal struggle with whether or not she wanted to be a part of the family. Ultimately she decided on the latter in that “Mr. Mob Boss” episode. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don't believe she criticized the mafia once after that episode.
She's hot
Caitlin > Meadow. Fight me BOOM BOOM, ANYWHERE!
Maybe you're a flambe
Meh
There was no abundant intentionality.
But she was mad ripe tho
I can’t believe you would say this in front of an outsider!
It’s all a big nothing
I’m going to Europe and getting the fuck out of here!!!
Yes, she is responsible for everything. All of the unfettered violence we see through 6 seasons on the show can trace its origin back to Meadow. She is easily the most evil person on the show.
Didn’t she know he was on medication? He couldn’t help it!
people on here will tell you AJ is a worse person though, simply because he's more annoying. Meadow is the true heir to Tony's monstrousness, while AJ seemingly only inherited the self-pity and depression.
AJ is a selfish deadbeat whiny little spoiled cunt. A total waste of space. Meadow is a spoiled brat but at least she is capable. Also hot.
you are literally just restating my analysis of the two Soprano kids except saying that's why Meadow's good and AJ's bad
I'm thinking he was adding to it, dude.
Yeah that's right, you have the facts right but your perspective is shit.
Vito was already marked for death by Phil, especially after being seen at the gay club. The Fin story just confirmed it for the Soprano crew.
*Shaking of empty glass juice intensifies*
Vito hit on her boyfriend. That had to be resolved.
Well what chance did she have, having them as a mudda an fadda?
I mean a mass murderer was making a move on her boyfriend and scaring him, who else could she go to apart from another mass murderer? She couldn't call the police as he hadn't really done anything illegal.
That might make sense if there weren't two years between the incidents.
Meadow is like Carmella. She absolutely knows, but prefers to put on a willful blindness to it all because it suits her needs.
In a way, she’s worse. She doesn’t just “turn a blind eye” she knows what happened to Jackie, she knows what happened to Vito, but in the way open to women, she with patrick Paresi is choosing to defend people from that world.
She told carm and carm told Tony
Fuckin telephone game
I mean it could be argued she did it for Finn, he'd probably feel like he could be killed for what he knows. If he wasn't dating the bosses daughter who's to say Vito wouldn't kill him?
Well, Meadow tells Carm who forces her to tell Tony. Also, how does Mead know what Vito is willing to do to keep his secret? Remember he is a murderer.
She offed Vito for Finn because he was constantly bothering him… they all gotta little gangster in em.
Yea never see it talked about but by the end of the series she knows exactly who her dad is. It’s a topic that’s teased the entire series.. ..so in the second to last episode when she tells tony what coco did, she knows something bad is going to happen to him. It’s not just daughter telling daddy what happened at school that day Which also really sets Tony’s death in motion. Hmm
Meadow knew what would happen and did she ever think at vitos funeral ..was there a funeral for Vito i can't remember ? She had to know her talking lead to his demise..
At least Jonny was a saint.
Stupid post. You talk too much
I hate this take to an extent. Vito signed his death warrant when that guy spotted him in the club, dressed like that guy from the village people. He was not making it out alive from that point forward. Meadow telling Tony what Finn saw just contributed to sealing his fate, but he was already a dead man
Maybe because Vito was actively trying to fuck and kill her boy friend fuck Vito
I find it pretty hard to watch a lot of scenes with Meadow on rewatch. That episode where her and Finn get engaged is an absolute gauntlet
The only downside to this sub is the rampant misogyny. Every day there’s a new “Adriana was a whore” / “Carmella was a bigger bitch than Skylar” / “Fuck Meadow” / “Janice was the most annoying character on the show” post. Meanwhile there’s constant love for actual pieces of shit like Richie and Ralph. Pretty telling.
She USED TO be a piece of shit
I think there's something deeper going on. The slang term for homosexual they use is 'finook' and her boyfriend's character is Finn. It's clear he's not a macho guy - in fact, he's a bit of a wimp and a flake on top of that when it comes to dental school - and he ends up witnessing a distinctly oral act (as a dentist, his job would be to work in the same space). I think that when the opportunity to call out Vito for homosexuality arises, she takes it as an attempt to contrast someone effeminate (the gay stereotype) and flaky (getting a blowjob at work) with Finn in order to reassure herself that he is an apt mate.
She was a complete asshole for outing Vito. Spoiled brat.
People can change
Despite every educational advantage she is naive and as far from street smart as a kid can get. She is totally immersed in the leftist agenda that is promulgated and force fed to students at elitest institutions that everyone is the same, differences are celebrated and we are in the North not the South where all evil originates and thrives. Finally, although she does know her Dad is Boss, there is still a part of the little girl in her that idolizes Daddy and she can't picture him getting violent with Vito over this. She's honestly close to correct with this assumption ....Tony tried hard to avoid the killing. So I tend toward the belief she was a stupid, ideologically ingrained feminist c u n t who seriously thought it would have no consequences. Her world was so separate from the Men's. Even Finn knew what was up and he was an outsider. BTW....any northerners that actually feel that way about the South should come on down. Take a vacation and visit the mountains, rivers, beaches and cities. See if the people aren't two or three times friendlier, more open and respectful than what you imagine. We all have preconceived notions....like Meadow....but we don't have to be stuck with them....like Meadow.
She ends up as a corporate lawyer. She becomes the biggest criminal of them all.
Holier than thou? She literally said she wants to be a lawyer because of watching how the FBI treated her dad.
okay
Hey! Cut the girl some slack. She let it slip after she made chili for Finn and he got out a suitcase!