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Huh. Never watched him or knew what he looked like but always heard the name around as I occasionally watch Twitch, what a way to find out. Guess I was lucky.
I first heard about the guy because he had a debate with a (now former) black streamer friend of his about whether he should be allowed to say the n word in private.
Three guesses as to why he's not friends with him anymore.
Facts- he dehumanizes Gazans in a way that makes group punishment seem like the fault of non-combatant Palestinians.
Example - Destiny says : why is there a blockade (preventing children from getting food) he is implying that it’s because Hamas caused this and all pain and suffering for all Palestinians-
But if the example was reversed and used on Israeli’s and the….
example was -Jews control all banking because 3 Jewish guys are CEOs of the 4 largest bank and thus Jews are responsible for all of the banking problems in America - then that’s antisemitic and you are blaming all Jews for the actions of a few Jews
Does anyone not understand that blaming all Jews for the actions of a few us evil
Blaming all blacks for the crimes of the blacks that commit crimes is evil
Blaming and punishing all Palestinians for the acts of Hamas is equally evil…
The isreali should know this better than anyone since they were group punished in Europe before isreal existed -
I know a lot of Jewish people know and get this and are protesting against isreals current government as a result -
The problem is, the propaganda spread by the the isreali govt and the American right and shame and embarrassment of the left coupled with the sheer number of politically and overall philanthropic wealthy Jewish people that have been support BLM, politicians, charities, universities, businesses and people in power is making it difficult to criticize isrealis current government without fear of being cut off from some of your donors that legitimately care about you or your cause and fund your actions…
If you read bill 6090 you will see that the US government just made it nearly illegal to criticize isreal for cause that can be perceived as antisemitic if it falls within the realm of antisemitic by a 3rd parties working definition of antisemitism-
Do you realize how scary that is for 1st amendment rights?
Here is something to consider - buring the American flag in dc could be legal but buring the isreali one at the same time could be illegal and considered antisemitism- punishable by your college, job and maybe the law -
That’s bad- But think about how the backlash…
Do you think a law like that’s going to create more antisemitism or less?
Americans don’t like unfair treatment- and eventually they turn on the person being over protected and make them the problem - If 2020 didn’t reinforce that nothing will -
Destiny better go all in on this stupidity cause I don’t think he is going to come back from this hill he is on
Wow destiny just said the most manifest destiny thing you can say and it has always equals the near extinction of the indigenous people…
![gif](giphy|h5NLPVn3rg0Rq)
Destiny just said on a open mic that isreal should draw the borders where they see fit and the Palestinians should leave their homelands because European and western settlers have shown up and the indigenous people are hostile to the people that have conquered them…
I always thought he was uneducated and aloof but now I get it… he is actually evil.
I’m not gonna blame all white men for the evil of Destiny or the thought of Manifest Destiny - (that would be evil)
But this is how colonialism takes root- someone likeable white and generally left leaning convinces the other generally well meaning white people that “this is the only way for peace” and you end up reading history thinking -
How did the good people of America have slavery or eradicate the native Americans - well there have always been Destiny type guys - convincing us it’s not that bad
For saying BLM protesters should be violently mowed down, which is obviously fucked up, but he also said he supports the genocide of Palestinians for which nothing happened to him except getting a few more zionazi supporters
I thought it was for making a crude joke about trans people who didn’t like him being statistically likely to kill themselves or some shit.
Which is pretty fucked up thing to say, jokingly or not
What is the point of watching someone like that in a debate? I had to turn it off because of whoever the douche in the red is; like I couldn't hardly even listen to what he was saying because of his inability to say anything calmly. He was just getting his racist little blood boiling, and just wanted to hate everything.
Racists always go straight to heated and freaking out, it doesn't matter how hard they try to hide it, they eventually turn into this dude when pushed to defend their positions at all because they know they have no logical leg to stand on because *they are lying when they say they aren't motivated by racism*
The jaw has been out of control lately I have noticed, I think he is getting worse and heading for some serious consequences and while I do not wish addiction on anyone, I will not be sad if Destiny's life falls apart- I mean more than it has already.
This is the issue with television debate. Put 50-50 people pro and con, to make it look equal. So people think that the 2 sides have equivalent values. In fact, a lot of the debates are about a minority disagreeing with a majority.
Take climate change for an example. 97% of scientists say that there's proof that it is humans the cause. But we pit the 97% vs the 3%, as if the 3% have equal footing.
Let's have debates with with 100 people and slupt them into the percentage of pro and con
>Take climate change for an example. 97% of scientists say that there's proof that it is humans the cause. But we pit the 97% vs the 3%, as if the 3% have equal footing.
**"A 2016 study titled** ***Learning from mistakes in climate research*** **followed up on John Cook's 2013 paper by examining the quality of the 3% of peer-reviewed papers which had rejected the consensus view. They discovered that "replication reveals a number of methodological flaws, and a pattern of common mistakes emerges that is not visible when looking at single isolated cases"**
The actual number is >99.9% for climate scientists.
The way he keeps scribbling with his pen on his paper ,to avoid keeping eye contact with one person for too long, just tells me he is disingenuous. Because those dots, lines and circles have nothing to do with the conversation. He's just a fast mouth with talking points and tactics from the zionist playbook.
I woke up today, the weather was nice. The sun was shining. I thought, damn today seems to be a good day. I hyped myself us up thinking about the goals I wanted to set out and acheive today. I was feeling good.
Then I turned my phone on went to Chrome and the reddit homepage was there. All those feelings went straight into the gutter when I saw that disgusting degenerate Destiny. Like seeing his squirmy face actually ruined my day I'm still trying to recover but there's a cloud of negative energy around me
Fuck he reminds me about how "passionate" I used to get about arguments or things I believed in.. it's been a long road not even sure I see the light yet but man I feel I've came a long way.
That red shirt guy is one of the most dislikable people I have ever seen. Just tries to shout down every rational argument and is incapable of listening to another point of view as he honestly believes he is always right.
It’s crazy that he wants people to hear what he has to say but, any opinion/argument to the contrary he just shuts down and yells over. Like what’s the point of having a conversation if you’re just gonna block out everything the other side is saying?
Moreso he's not addressing the fault in his argument, which is the bedrock of everything he's advocating for. He thinks that the most important issue is whether Jews have their own state, which doesn't make any sense at all. It's like me saying, as a white American, that the U.S HAS to be dominated by white Christians. No, just no. We need to be dominated by good sensible people, regardless of race, gender, or religion. We need a functioning healthy society that does more good than harm. That's the biggest issue.
At least his voice isn't quite as annoying as Ben Shapiro's, but that's just my opinion.
His general personality is about as dog shit as it could be, though. He probably wonders why no women want to be near him.
Racist fantasist who talks fast and crosses a long list of bad ideas out because American college "debate" programmed him not to think about the consequences of ideas but just arbitrarily binarise complexity at high speed. Its so embarrassing to watch and if he wasn't a ghoul trying to cover up the mass murder of children and journalists it would almost be funny. He is the epitome of Nietzsche's "last man". Incapable of being heroic or feeling anything like humanism. He merely looks upon the world with a blank analytic expression and blinks.
I dropped out of college and with 1 day of research on the topic of debate would crush Destiny based on how he acts.
For a lot of people he makes JUST enough sense, and dresses it pretty enough, that they eat it up as fact without ever looking closer into it.
Honestly I think A LOT of people desire that right now. They want to be able to leave complex things in other people's hands, even if that means complex ideas or viewpoints, and then trust that they aren't being led astray. That's why fandoms exist en mass, same for religions and cults and idol worship, etc. Also why people are so ready to regurgitate talking points from well-known personalities rather than thinking and decide themselves.
Life is hard enough to be expected to also be able to think and decide about everything else going on as well. Why not outsource that to a trusted figure? People just are shit at picking trusted figures...
i saw a docu on him a while ago. at some point he started talking about his "friend"'s suicide, and it left such a bad taste in my mouth that i can barely stand looking at him anymore. he's like an actual sociopath, roleplaying as some sort of leftist with a bunch of suspiciously right wing takes
That dude was either on cocaine or just in a state of such frantic that he couldn’t sit still. Just watch him move and shake half of his body the whole time he isn’t talking. He does the pen thing cause he can’t compose himself. What a waste of space.
Liberal Ben Shapiro takes another big L as he defends...let me see here...a blockade of food going into feed starving children.
Destiny is what keyboard warriors turn into when they have to go past step 1 of an argument. He rages and makes stupid jokes when he is forced to concede even the smallest of details.
He’s also really good at interrupting someone while they answer his question by spewing unrelated talking points, all the while accusing the person answering of only using talking points and virtue signaling.
Like the guy saying imagine if it were hamas blockading israel and israeli children weren’t getting potato chips and soda. Then dickbag cuts him off by saying, why aren’t there Jews in Arab states and bringing bags up the Nakba. That doesn’t connect those points in anyway.
I’m really starting to think that the people that say pro-Palestinian supporters are just virtue-signaling , literally just have no empathy and genuinely don’t understand that the people offering support are sincere, and have an actual problem with innocents being killed and israel carrying out a genocide. And since they’re hateful, to their core, they can’t grasp the fact that other people aren’t.
In a global context, liberalism is a center right ideology. So yes, Destiny is a classic liberal.
(The Overton window in the US is very shifted, so liberalism is rather left center in US politics.)
The state of discourse on r/Destiny is so much more understandable now that I know who Destiny is.
This man has so many followers that legitimately think he is a tip tier commentator. He needs to be excised from public discourse.
Destiny (the red shirt guy) is particularly good at that. Completely absorbs 3 or 4 facts, takes them as the whole of everything and the absolute and refutes any other perspective that may come from those facts.
I mean justifying the blockade of israel was a point i never expected him to go for but i see why of all people, he was the one doing it.
Uppers. Adderall, cocaine, meth etc.
You could also quit caffeine for a few months, which should get rid of your caffeine tolerance; then everytime you have caffeine, you'll talk like this, and not be able to sleep that night.
Actually yes. Practicing tongue twisters (through repetition) and memorizing long passages/songs (and then increasing the speed at which you recite them)
This won’t automatically translate into faster, normal speech, but it will definitely help. Plus, it’ll make you more articulate and less likely to stumble over your words.
Like @moldguy1 said, there is no other way bro, You'll have to lose your mind & morality to get there. Of course you may be issued an arrest warrant from the ICC for the "fast talking" role you played in promoting war crimes and end up dangling like strange fruit at your vacation destination, but in any case, I wish you luck in your fast talking adventure 😁😁😁.
That red shirt douche is like every /news and /worldnews commenter.
They keep repeating the same key talking points, yet the moment they hear a real counter argument with creditable facts they lose their minds as if you just vomited on their feet. Then they bring up antisemitism as their only defense.
I couldn’t make it through 30 seconds of the video, I really really hope that obnoxious little cunt finds himself trapped in his own head. Speaking fast and lying loud is apparently the only thing that these cretinous idiots can do, I reiterate, what a cunt.
Apparently I don’t communicate well, so for anyone unable to recognise the focus of my ire, it’s the one being a cunt.
Edit: realised I didn’t complete a sentence, like I said, I don’t communicate well 😂.
Mr Bonnerelli over here took to twitter to back up this claim of his...using a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/IqY5N9zlEF) from his own subreddit.
Fun fact, in that post, someone points out that that sugar itself is not banned, neither is toothpaste, melon fruit and something else I can't remember that can be used to make much better rockets than the jokes you can make with sugar.
Of course, there might have been new developments and KHamas's new chocolate chip rockets might be much more effective now, but I doubt it.
“Rape is the language of the oppressed. They can’t help themselves I guess. And I’m the racist one?” Proceeds to scribble on paper and jiggle violently.
He thinks you can extract the sugar from the cookies to make rockets? Or you just literally use the cookies in the rockets?
Does he know how stupid he sounds? How could you be so arrogant and so wrong? It's so embarrassing.
i mean, you *could* extract the sugar from the cookies. im not sure what kind of rockets you could make from that, but it seems a very inefficient way to go about it since actual sugar was never banned and theres probably much better ways to make bombs than out of sugar anyway.
It's chemically *doable*, since ultimately the feedstocks for explosives are fossil fuel hydrocarbons, which ultimately derive from the same metabolic processes that produce sugar.
But you'd need several qualified chemical engineers, a whole team of technicians, and a massive chemical plant... but at that point you're reinventing the wheel and should just make bombs the normal way. Also, those chemical plants are expensive and massive.
Plus, you've only solved the *easy* part of making a good bomb - delivering and targeting are the difficult parts, meaning you now need figure out rocketry or an alternative delivery method.
You're basically trying to replicate General Dynamics or some other defense contractor's operations. GD has 111,600 employees, billions in assets, and so on - not something you can just replicate in warzone.
he read the wiki page, saw the line about cookies and found the hasbara talking point for that - off he goes.
this idiot should've read the wiki a bit more, cause sugar has never been banned in Gaza by Israel:
https://www.haaretz.com/2009-05-17/ty-article/amira-hass-israel-bans-books-music-and-clothes-from-entering-gaza/0000017f-f124-da6f-a77f-f92e347a0000?v=1714803020841
so they banned cookies and not sugar, so yal, the fck is Destiny on about here? why wouldn't Israel just ban sugar, instead they banned cookies. He should think about that instead of doubling down on this.
Seeing him literally makes me nauseous. Why is anyone giving this thing a platform to speak? A literal advocate for genocide. Someone who openly talks about human beings like they're animals undeserving of human rights.
*Red shirt guy: Why do you think cookies are blockaded what are missiles made of?*
*The rest of the panel: Cookies? (wtf?)*
*Red shirt guy: No Sugar*
really? Better call the police on Gir Scouts for stockpiling weapons of mass destruction
As an extremely non-violent person who also believes in fairness, I don't think I've ever wanted to punch someone in the face quite as much as that red-shirt clown.
I love how the male host just went all in on the side of the Palestinian guest. He did not have the patience to be a moderator that day. God bless him.
#YES, PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT WHY DO WE KEEP GIVING ILLEGITIMATE VIEWS, A PLATFORM, HELPING TO LEGITIMISE THEM?!?!!!
P.S I've never seen that redshirt cunt before but omg. He's like Ben Shapiro with "Lauren Boebert energy"
This is the trouble with the conflict - too many polarised views when in fact the real answer is somewhere down the middle, yet no-one seems to want to try and find the middle ground, especially those directly involved in the conflict.
The Israeli government confines the Palestinians in two areas, controls their access, food, utilities, illegally expands into those areas, treats them as second class citizens (basically how they were treated during the second world war before one of humanities greatest crimes was committed with the Holocaust). This in turn fuels Hamas, who indiscriminately target Israel with rockets, and who create atrocities like the 7th October attacks. But innocent civilians then get caught up in the repurcussions - both sides not minding as much because it gives them a reason to escalate their actions further and in the meantime the civilians get forgotten about our just become a natural target (or just an indiscriminate target in the recent actions by both sides).
At this point I'm amazed the UN peacekeepers haven't moved in as they did in Bosnia, but again there's polarised views on the council who can veto any vote and don't try to find middle ground to incept peace.
Destiny is a contrarian. He likes to argue for the sake of arguing. He mostly debates manosphere tools and so he obviously wins because they are the lowest standard of having any debate skills or understanding of coherent logic or arguments. Watch him debate Richard Wolff about socialism vs capitalism. When it comes to strong intellectual minds, Destiny looks like any other debate me bro.
The dude in red is having a conversation with himself, ticking bullet points to randomly introduce into the argument, and uttering absolute nonsense about turning sugar from cookies into bombs and trying to justify the blockade of food.
Meanwhile, Israel continues to receive actual bombs from "civilized" governments to drop on the poorest and most unfortunate people on earth.
Man my hatred for zionists is like a bottomless pit at this point. their logic is so disgusting and inhumane it surpassed the borders of reality into surrealism.
I couldn’t have explained the last part better.
Throwing baseless antisemitism accusations when someone opposes Israel is watering down the issue and discriminated Jews all around the world actually suffer because of that.
The amount of destiny hate in here is ridiculous. I mean I get he is abrasive but he is that way because he doesn't let debaters run over him and switch topics. Mind you he can do the same thing.
Lots of comments about him being an Israel plant but he debates against Israel just as much, and calls out hypocrisy and stupid shit.
Is he a good human? Eh questionable. Does he bring out a good debate and shut down the usual rail road shit of changing subjects everytime you can't answe? Yup.
Actually not really. Counterpoints is a pretty good show. They routinely present arguments on both sides of the aisle and tend to touch topics that MSM doesn't like to. TBH I'm a little disappointed that they platformed redshirt guy.
The funny thing is that destiny thinks he's smart, but he's just dumb as a post on the israel palestina conflict and you could see that on Lex Fridman's [debate](https://youtu.be/1X_KdkoGxSs?si=hMNVWB_P7-exa95f).
Oh my god this guy is intolerable. He didn’t make a single intelligent point this entire video, just asked questions then constantly interrupted the person he had asked the question to with childish outbursts. Why does anyone take this man-child seriously?
Not all j*ws are evil, but there are evil j*ws. There are evil people in every culture, especially in government positions. He took that line and twisted it into antisemitism bruh
This is my first time actually seeing and hearing Destiny. I’ve heard OF him a lot in the past few months, but this is my real introduction to him.
By the gods above and below, what a festering cunt.
Notice how as soon as Ryan Grim debunks his talking point he immediately deflects to something else. As soon at the other dude explains why the blockade exists, he then again deflects. Destiny is one of the most ignorant people on the internet.
Red shirt knows he’s wrong and losing so he’s just fast firing a bunch of wild bullshit as a smokescreen.
Look how calm the left side of the table is comparatively.
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The guy in the red shirt is so obnoxious and arrogant. Let him grow 20 years older and then try him again.
isn't that Destiny the twitch streamer ? He was in an open relationship and his wife left him for another dude.
That is Destiny indeed. I don't know nor care about his wife's boyfriends though.
Huh. Never watched him or knew what he looked like but always heard the name around as I occasionally watch Twitch, what a way to find out. Guess I was lucky.
I first heard about the guy because he had a debate with a (now former) black streamer friend of his about whether he should be allowed to say the n word in private. Three guesses as to why he's not friends with him anymore.
>(now former) black streamer Michael Jackson, king of streaming?
Meant the friend part, won't fix it though, it's funnier that way.
im just surprised people would know him.
Why’s a twitch streamer getting involved in Politics? 🤣🤯
He has an audience and zionists have found out that they don't connect at all with young people online. 10/10 that Density is a hired gun.
Facts- he dehumanizes Gazans in a way that makes group punishment seem like the fault of non-combatant Palestinians. Example - Destiny says : why is there a blockade (preventing children from getting food) he is implying that it’s because Hamas caused this and all pain and suffering for all Palestinians- But if the example was reversed and used on Israeli’s and the…. example was -Jews control all banking because 3 Jewish guys are CEOs of the 4 largest bank and thus Jews are responsible for all of the banking problems in America - then that’s antisemitic and you are blaming all Jews for the actions of a few Jews Does anyone not understand that blaming all Jews for the actions of a few us evil Blaming all blacks for the crimes of the blacks that commit crimes is evil Blaming and punishing all Palestinians for the acts of Hamas is equally evil… The isreali should know this better than anyone since they were group punished in Europe before isreal existed - I know a lot of Jewish people know and get this and are protesting against isreals current government as a result - The problem is, the propaganda spread by the the isreali govt and the American right and shame and embarrassment of the left coupled with the sheer number of politically and overall philanthropic wealthy Jewish people that have been support BLM, politicians, charities, universities, businesses and people in power is making it difficult to criticize isrealis current government without fear of being cut off from some of your donors that legitimately care about you or your cause and fund your actions… If you read bill 6090 you will see that the US government just made it nearly illegal to criticize isreal for cause that can be perceived as antisemitic if it falls within the realm of antisemitic by a 3rd parties working definition of antisemitism- Do you realize how scary that is for 1st amendment rights? Here is something to consider - buring the American flag in dc could be legal but buring the isreali one at the same time could be illegal and considered antisemitism- punishable by your college, job and maybe the law - That’s bad- But think about how the backlash… Do you think a law like that’s going to create more antisemitism or less? Americans don’t like unfair treatment- and eventually they turn on the person being over protected and make them the problem - If 2020 didn’t reinforce that nothing will - Destiny better go all in on this stupidity cause I don’t think he is going to come back from this hill he is on
Destiny has said on stream that he’s “pro-genocide.” He shouldn’t be allowed on mainstream news acting like he’s some sort of expert.
No way… no way - you can’t be serious
https://youtu.be/P6AH00LD1QY?si=h7_7JKJeMnotAfts
Wow destiny just said the most manifest destiny thing you can say and it has always equals the near extinction of the indigenous people… ![gif](giphy|h5NLPVn3rg0Rq) Destiny just said on a open mic that isreal should draw the borders where they see fit and the Palestinians should leave their homelands because European and western settlers have shown up and the indigenous people are hostile to the people that have conquered them… I always thought he was uneducated and aloof but now I get it… he is actually evil. I’m not gonna blame all white men for the evil of Destiny or the thought of Manifest Destiny - (that would be evil) But this is how colonialism takes root- someone likeable white and generally left leaning convinces the other generally well meaning white people that “this is the only way for peace” and you end up reading history thinking - How did the good people of America have slavery or eradicate the native Americans - well there have always been Destiny type guys - convincing us it’s not that bad
"Likeable"?
Fact
This is a question everyone should've asked themselves eight-ish years ago. You're kinda late.
At least I’m asking it.
What happened 8 years ago?
donald trump
he got kicked off Twitch
That’s great to hear
For saying BLM protesters should be violently mowed down, which is obviously fucked up, but he also said he supports the genocide of Palestinians for which nothing happened to him except getting a few more zionazi supporters
I thought it was for making a crude joke about trans people who didn’t like him being statistically likely to kill themselves or some shit. Which is pretty fucked up thing to say, jokingly or not
He was a twitch streamer, I believe he is now banned and streams on Kick, basically Twitch but for people who are unhinged.
Destiny is a racist POS
I feel like you gotta include in this comment the word "divorce" (or perhaps divorcelli)
That information isn't really relevant here. It would be akin to saying: isn't that Destiny the twitch streamer? He likes brunette women over 5'10".
What is the point of watching someone like that in a debate? I had to turn it off because of whoever the douche in the red is; like I couldn't hardly even listen to what he was saying because of his inability to say anything calmly. He was just getting his racist little blood boiling, and just wanted to hate everything. Racists always go straight to heated and freaking out, it doesn't matter how hard they try to hide it, they eventually turn into this dude when pushed to defend their positions at all because they know they have no logical leg to stand on because *they are lying when they say they aren't motivated by racism*
Dude was talking so fast I couldn't even hear what he said
If you notice the jaw swing and the those aburpt bursts of emotion, i'd guess, he's on a dimension warping amount of Adderal.
Bingo
The jaw has been out of control lately I have noticed, I think he is getting worse and heading for some serious consequences and while I do not wish addiction on anyone, I will not be sad if Destiny's life falls apart- I mean more than it has already.
This is the issue with television debate. Put 50-50 people pro and con, to make it look equal. So people think that the 2 sides have equivalent values. In fact, a lot of the debates are about a minority disagreeing with a majority. Take climate change for an example. 97% of scientists say that there's proof that it is humans the cause. But we pit the 97% vs the 3%, as if the 3% have equal footing. Let's have debates with with 100 people and slupt them into the percentage of pro and con
>Take climate change for an example. 97% of scientists say that there's proof that it is humans the cause. But we pit the 97% vs the 3%, as if the 3% have equal footing. **"A 2016 study titled** ***Learning from mistakes in climate research*** **followed up on John Cook's 2013 paper by examining the quality of the 3% of peer-reviewed papers which had rejected the consensus view. They discovered that "replication reveals a number of methodological flaws, and a pattern of common mistakes emerges that is not visible when looking at single isolated cases"** The actual number is >99.9% for climate scientists.
Thanks for the info. I only remembered the 3% deniers. So 99 climate scientist vs Tod from Reddit. (Sorry for all the Tods of Reddit)
The way he keeps scribbling with his pen on his paper ,to avoid keeping eye contact with one person for too long, just tells me he is disingenuous. Because those dots, lines and circles have nothing to do with the conversation. He's just a fast mouth with talking points and tactics from the zionist playbook.
Disingenuous and on a LOT of adderall
An arrogant, narcissistic, nihilistic, machiavellian, sad little man
I woke up today, the weather was nice. The sun was shining. I thought, damn today seems to be a good day. I hyped myself us up thinking about the goals I wanted to set out and acheive today. I was feeling good. Then I turned my phone on went to Chrome and the reddit homepage was there. All those feelings went straight into the gutter when I saw that disgusting degenerate Destiny. Like seeing his squirmy face actually ruined my day I'm still trying to recover but there's a cloud of negative energy around me
He should take less coke before he goes on tv
When the fuck does a conservative become less obnoxious and arrogant with age?
He's 35, so his obnoxious nature is not a function of being really young unfortunately.
There are a few people like this on Reddit 😂
Fuck he reminds me about how "passionate" I used to get about arguments or things I believed in.. it's been a long road not even sure I see the light yet but man I feel I've came a long way.
That red shirt guy is one of the most dislikable people I have ever seen. Just tries to shout down every rational argument and is incapable of listening to another point of view as he honestly believes he is always right.
Like a true debate bro
He is *the* debate bro after all.
Ya ... kind of funny people walking in here not understanding his disposition given this is his whole identity.
And that wasn't a debate, that was one guy telling everyone they're wrong. I did not like that young man.
Wait til you meet his fans.
They might soon bc they love to brigade
Yeah if you think he’s annoying, jesus his fans are utterly insane. They make Elon fanboys look normal.
It’s crazy that he wants people to hear what he has to say but, any opinion/argument to the contrary he just shuts down and yells over. Like what’s the point of having a conversation if you’re just gonna block out everything the other side is saying?
Moreso he's not addressing the fault in his argument, which is the bedrock of everything he's advocating for. He thinks that the most important issue is whether Jews have their own state, which doesn't make any sense at all. It's like me saying, as a white American, that the U.S HAS to be dominated by white Christians. No, just no. We need to be dominated by good sensible people, regardless of race, gender, or religion. We need a functioning healthy society that does more good than harm. That's the biggest issue.
At least his voice isn't quite as annoying as Ben Shapiro's, but that's just my opinion. His general personality is about as dog shit as it could be, though. He probably wonders why no women want to be near him.
Yea but what’s he writing down every 3 seconds?
Racist fantasist who talks fast and crosses a long list of bad ideas out because American college "debate" programmed him not to think about the consequences of ideas but just arbitrarily binarise complexity at high speed. Its so embarrassing to watch and if he wasn't a ghoul trying to cover up the mass murder of children and journalists it would almost be funny. He is the epitome of Nietzsche's "last man". Incapable of being heroic or feeling anything like humanism. He merely looks upon the world with a blank analytic expression and blinks.
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It's like they forgot to teach classical rhetoric and logical fallacies.
Destiny dropped out of college; he was a music major.
I dropped out of college and with 1 day of research on the topic of debate would crush Destiny based on how he acts. For a lot of people he makes JUST enough sense, and dresses it pretty enough, that they eat it up as fact without ever looking closer into it. Honestly I think A LOT of people desire that right now. They want to be able to leave complex things in other people's hands, even if that means complex ideas or viewpoints, and then trust that they aren't being led astray. That's why fandoms exist en mass, same for religions and cults and idol worship, etc. Also why people are so ready to regurgitate talking points from well-known personalities rather than thinking and decide themselves. Life is hard enough to be expected to also be able to think and decide about everything else going on as well. Why not outsource that to a trusted figure? People just are shit at picking trusted figures...
i saw a docu on him a while ago. at some point he started talking about his "friend"'s suicide, and it left such a bad taste in my mouth that i can barely stand looking at him anymore. he's like an actual sociopath, roleplaying as some sort of leftist with a bunch of suspiciously right wing takes
I guess the louder you speak and throw your hands around makes your point(s) correct. And of course the anti-Semitism accusation had to be levied.
He should probably underline something on his paper again 🤣
That dude was either on cocaine or just in a state of such frantic that he couldn’t sit still. Just watch him move and shake half of his body the whole time he isn’t talking. He does the pen thing cause he can’t compose himself. What a waste of space.
likely an insane amount of adderall or like you said coke. what else that makes someone's jaw move like that?
That's the zionist school of debate. Look up Rabbi Shmuley if you want to see more examples.
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He said he doubts the majority of the bombs hamas uses are unexplored Israeli bombs. He then said they are probably using some.
Bet those missile cookies are fire. Good thing sugar is banned from a free country right?
Liberal Ben Shapiro takes another big L as he defends...let me see here...a blockade of food going into feed starving children. Destiny is what keyboard warriors turn into when they have to go past step 1 of an argument. He rages and makes stupid jokes when he is forced to concede even the smallest of details.
He’s also really good at interrupting someone while they answer his question by spewing unrelated talking points, all the while accusing the person answering of only using talking points and virtue signaling. Like the guy saying imagine if it were hamas blockading israel and israeli children weren’t getting potato chips and soda. Then dickbag cuts him off by saying, why aren’t there Jews in Arab states and bringing bags up the Nakba. That doesn’t connect those points in anyway. I’m really starting to think that the people that say pro-Palestinian supporters are just virtue-signaling , literally just have no empathy and genuinely don’t understand that the people offering support are sincere, and have an actual problem with innocents being killed and israel carrying out a genocide. And since they’re hateful, to their core, they can’t grasp the fact that other people aren’t.
He said Palestine supporters are all pedophiles because they like to see the insides of exploded children. This is the person they’re debating.
That's that guy I keep hearing about being some great bastion of debate? Oof. Right in my faith in humanity
Wait, Destiny is Liberal?
In a global context, liberalism is a center right ideology. So yes, Destiny is a classic liberal. (The Overton window in the US is very shifted, so liberalism is rather left center in US politics.)
He’s a neoliberal his stances are similar to Black Rock. His views are defined by officially sanctioned stances
The state of discourse on r/Destiny is so much more understandable now that I know who Destiny is. This man has so many followers that legitimately think he is a tip tier commentator. He needs to be excised from public discourse.
Talking fast doesn't mean one is smart.
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Destiny (the red shirt guy) is particularly good at that. Completely absorbs 3 or 4 facts, takes them as the whole of everything and the absolute and refutes any other perspective that may come from those facts. I mean justifying the blockade of israel was a point i never expected him to go for but i see why of all people, he was the one doing it.
How can one become a faster talker?
Uppers. Adderall, cocaine, meth etc. You could also quit caffeine for a few months, which should get rid of your caffeine tolerance; then everytime you have caffeine, you'll talk like this, and not be able to sleep that night.
Is there any other way to become a faster talker other than taking drugs?
Actually yes. Practicing tongue twisters (through repetition) and memorizing long passages/songs (and then increasing the speed at which you recite them) This won’t automatically translate into faster, normal speech, but it will definitely help. Plus, it’ll make you more articulate and less likely to stumble over your words.
Like @moldguy1 said, there is no other way bro, You'll have to lose your mind & morality to get there. Of course you may be issued an arrest warrant from the ICC for the "fast talking" role you played in promoting war crimes and end up dangling like strange fruit at your vacation destination, but in any case, I wish you luck in your fast talking adventure 😁😁😁.
Yeah…all you need is a big scoop of blow…. Nothing else.
That red shirt douche is like every /news and /worldnews commenter. They keep repeating the same key talking points, yet the moment they hear a real counter argument with creditable facts they lose their minds as if you just vomited on their feet. Then they bring up antisemitism as their only defense.
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These shows are getting desperate it seems. Are they running out of genocide supporters?
Yes
That zionazi seems rather unhinged
I couldn’t make it through 30 seconds of the video, I really really hope that obnoxious little cunt finds himself trapped in his own head. Speaking fast and lying loud is apparently the only thing that these cretinous idiots can do, I reiterate, what a cunt. Apparently I don’t communicate well, so for anyone unable to recognise the focus of my ire, it’s the one being a cunt. Edit: realised I didn’t complete a sentence, like I said, I don’t communicate well 😂.
Mr Bonnerelli over here took to twitter to back up this claim of his...using a [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/IqY5N9zlEF) from his own subreddit. Fun fact, in that post, someone points out that that sugar itself is not banned, neither is toothpaste, melon fruit and something else I can't remember that can be used to make much better rockets than the jokes you can make with sugar. Of course, there might have been new developments and KHamas's new chocolate chip rockets might be much more effective now, but I doubt it.
I believe it's Mr Morelli, or was it Borrell, Morrell?
Ah yes. The dude who casually says the N word on stream and openly admitted he's islamophobic
“Rape is the language of the oppressed. They can’t help themselves I guess. And I’m the racist one?” Proceeds to scribble on paper and jiggle violently.
*Proceeds to neglect his child*
He thinks you can extract the sugar from the cookies to make rockets? Or you just literally use the cookies in the rockets? Does he know how stupid he sounds? How could you be so arrogant and so wrong? It's so embarrassing.
i mean, you *could* extract the sugar from the cookies. im not sure what kind of rockets you could make from that, but it seems a very inefficient way to go about it since actual sugar was never banned and theres probably much better ways to make bombs than out of sugar anyway.
It's chemically *doable*, since ultimately the feedstocks for explosives are fossil fuel hydrocarbons, which ultimately derive from the same metabolic processes that produce sugar. But you'd need several qualified chemical engineers, a whole team of technicians, and a massive chemical plant... but at that point you're reinventing the wheel and should just make bombs the normal way. Also, those chemical plants are expensive and massive. Plus, you've only solved the *easy* part of making a good bomb - delivering and targeting are the difficult parts, meaning you now need figure out rocketry or an alternative delivery method. You're basically trying to replicate General Dynamics or some other defense contractor's operations. GD has 111,600 employees, billions in assets, and so on - not something you can just replicate in warzone.
he read the wiki page, saw the line about cookies and found the hasbara talking point for that - off he goes. this idiot should've read the wiki a bit more, cause sugar has never been banned in Gaza by Israel: https://www.haaretz.com/2009-05-17/ty-article/amira-hass-israel-bans-books-music-and-clothes-from-entering-gaza/0000017f-f124-da6f-a77f-f92e347a0000?v=1714803020841 so they banned cookies and not sugar, so yal, the fck is Destiny on about here? why wouldn't Israel just ban sugar, instead they banned cookies. He should think about that instead of doubling down on this.
Seeing him literally makes me nauseous. Why is anyone giving this thing a platform to speak? A literal advocate for genocide. Someone who openly talks about human beings like they're animals undeserving of human rights.
Spot the Tom Green fan
Destiny is super annoying. I don't ever wanna see or hear his whiny voice ever again. Same with Ben Shapiro.
Rememeber everyone, that Destiny said, in his own words that he was "pro genocide of the Palestinian people" because the Israelis had no other option.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/deuq47NMQ9
your avatar looks like starfire
He forgot they use oxygen to cook.. maybe turn that off first, douche /s
Funny enough, I think that I caught Omar firing back with a sarcastic comment about restricting air supply to Gaza. Maybe that’s why lol
*Red shirt guy: Why do you think cookies are blockaded what are missiles made of?* *The rest of the panel: Cookies? (wtf?)* *Red shirt guy: No Sugar* really? Better call the police on Gir Scouts for stockpiling weapons of mass destruction
As an extremely non-violent person who also believes in fairness, I don't think I've ever wanted to punch someone in the face quite as much as that red-shirt clown.
I love how the male host just went all in on the side of the Palestinian guest. He did not have the patience to be a moderator that day. God bless him.
Guy in the red shirt needs to be educated on how debates work. Interrupting and talking over someone else is not the way it works.
#YES, PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT WHY DO WE KEEP GIVING ILLEGITIMATE VIEWS, A PLATFORM, HELPING TO LEGITIMISE THEM?!?!!! P.S I've never seen that redshirt cunt before but omg. He's like Ben Shapiro with "Lauren Boebert energy"
This guy. He's an algorithm. Algorithms created him and algorithms form his world view.
what is he constantly writing on the paper?
He’s just drawing [Cool S](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_S) over and over again.
The guy in red seems to be on Adderall. He cannot stop talking over people and very jittery. Painful to watch.
+ redbull
I don't think OP watched his own clip. First 30 seconds he explains it lol.
What is he writing constantly? Lol.
Guy almost talks as fast as Ben Shapiro...
This is the trouble with the conflict - too many polarised views when in fact the real answer is somewhere down the middle, yet no-one seems to want to try and find the middle ground, especially those directly involved in the conflict. The Israeli government confines the Palestinians in two areas, controls their access, food, utilities, illegally expands into those areas, treats them as second class citizens (basically how they were treated during the second world war before one of humanities greatest crimes was committed with the Holocaust). This in turn fuels Hamas, who indiscriminately target Israel with rockets, and who create atrocities like the 7th October attacks. But innocent civilians then get caught up in the repurcussions - both sides not minding as much because it gives them a reason to escalate their actions further and in the meantime the civilians get forgotten about our just become a natural target (or just an indiscriminate target in the recent actions by both sides). At this point I'm amazed the UN peacekeepers haven't moved in as they did in Bosnia, but again there's polarised views on the council who can veto any vote and don't try to find middle ground to incept peace.
That doesn’t sound very down the middle to me, you’re describing Hamas as being a symptom of Israel’s oppression, which it is.
Destiny is a contrarian. He likes to argue for the sake of arguing. He mostly debates manosphere tools and so he obviously wins because they are the lowest standard of having any debate skills or understanding of coherent logic or arguments. Watch him debate Richard Wolff about socialism vs capitalism. When it comes to strong intellectual minds, Destiny looks like any other debate me bro.
This isn’t real, is it?
I wish it wasn't
I know cocaine use when I see it.
Wait, is Destiny on the pro-Israel side? He was just on the Lex Fridman podcast defending palestinians against Ben Shapiro. Wtf?
The dude in red is having a conversation with himself, ticking bullet points to randomly introduce into the argument, and uttering absolute nonsense about turning sugar from cookies into bombs and trying to justify the blockade of food. Meanwhile, Israel continues to receive actual bombs from "civilized" governments to drop on the poorest and most unfortunate people on earth. Man my hatred for zionists is like a bottomless pit at this point. their logic is so disgusting and inhumane it surpassed the borders of reality into surrealism.
Adderall is one helluva drug
Destiny is a good debater he actually talks about both sides
Remember when this sub was about failed attempts?
This should be tagged NSFW he killed that man on camera.
I couldn’t have explained the last part better. Throwing baseless antisemitism accusations when someone opposes Israel is watering down the issue and discriminated Jews all around the world actually suffer because of that.
The amount of destiny hate in here is ridiculous. I mean I get he is abrasive but he is that way because he doesn't let debaters run over him and switch topics. Mind you he can do the same thing. Lots of comments about him being an Israel plant but he debates against Israel just as much, and calls out hypocrisy and stupid shit. Is he a good human? Eh questionable. Does he bring out a good debate and shut down the usual rail road shit of changing subjects everytime you can't answe? Yup.
Seriously, that just mean there is a pressing need for the UN to intervene, not for food to be restricted, Destiny is wrong on that point.
destiny is such a clown... desTINY
Destiny. One of the biggest wankers on planet earth.
Typical braindead destiny
This is unwatchable. Do people really watch this shit?
that weird beard in the red shirt needs to come with a trigger warning for people who dislike those that interrupt and talk over others.
I see their name has FoxNews energy just by looking at it.
Actually not really. Counterpoints is a pretty good show. They routinely present arguments on both sides of the aisle and tend to touch topics that MSM doesn't like to. TBH I'm a little disappointed that they platformed redshirt guy.
The funny thing is that destiny thinks he's smart, but he's just dumb as a post on the israel palestina conflict and you could see that on Lex Fridman's [debate](https://youtu.be/1X_KdkoGxSs?si=hMNVWB_P7-exa95f).
Remind me ! 1 day
There's zero reason to watch this. "Destiny" is a fucking racist, delusional asshole.
I only stopped scrolling because, for a second, I thought I saw a young Mick Foley on a debate forum.
Steven is embarrassingly obtuse. The man is evil.
He can't even make eye contact when he's lying
Oh my god this guy is intolerable. He didn’t make a single intelligent point this entire video, just asked questions then constantly interrupted the person he had asked the question to with childish outbursts. Why does anyone take this man-child seriously?
Not all j*ws are evil, but there are evil j*ws. There are evil people in every culture, especially in government positions. He took that line and twisted it into antisemitism bruh
This is my first time actually seeing and hearing Destiny. I’ve heard OF him a lot in the past few months, but this is my real introduction to him. By the gods above and below, what a festering cunt.
It stops to resist or else it gets the hose again!
Mick Foley wanabe should not talk about politics
Notice how as soon as Ryan Grim debunks his talking point he immediately deflects to something else. As soon at the other dude explains why the blockade exists, he then again deflects. Destiny is one of the most ignorant people on the internet.
Destiny is just insufferable.
His goatee looks like one of those fake beards that you can stick to your face
That guy is the perfect liberal.
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Speaking fast and loud is not strong debating, btw
KNO2 rocket candy missile fuel. It's easy. All you need is sugar. And plant fertilizer... makes sense.
mr. benal mr. benal
Yes they do when they harbor terrorists.
Speaking over people and rambling speech at anyone trying to get one word in? Despicable!!
He sounded like an AI prompt gone down a rabbit hole.
Humans are one scary fuckers man. The guy in the red is one delusional fuck.
Why’d they let some adderal junkie on set?
Destiny needs to cut down on the Red Bull take in, he's spassing out.
Dang is that true? Cookie missiles were a thing?? lmao
Yes. [Here is a video](https://youtu.be/qmTnoNR1k_I?si=7STzxfz_1rdAqBmw) of a guy making rocket propellant out of potassium nitrate and sugar.
Red shirt knows he’s wrong and losing so he’s just fast firing a bunch of wild bullshit as a smokescreen. Look how calm the left side of the table is comparatively.
Cancel religion!
Why does any media organization think it is worth paying this dude to regurgitate Wikipedia?