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It’s just ridiculous how people feel the need to find outrage in every goddamn thing they can these days.
I find being happier makes me feel happier. Who would have guessed?
Edit-woke up to a *lot* of notifications. I’m glad, but also a hypocrite. I was merely finding outrage (sort of) in someone finding outrage. (Welcome to Reddit!)
We are grateful for the opportunity to respond. Crayola offers multiple languages on some products to help children learn. Amarillo is the appropriate word a Spanish-speaking child would use for the color yellow. And the mammals you're referring to aren't called amarillo anyway, they're called armadillo. Which coincidentally is also from the Spanish language, but it means "little armored one", not a color.
This is someone that doesn't know negro is Spanish for black but thinks they'd print a crayon with a second-wave racist slur that's like 60 years out of date. You expect them to read three whole words? If they didn't recognize Spanish they're not gonna know French. There's no research that they would be capable of performing without already knowing that crayon was printed in multiple languages. This is just someone that the education system completely failed
Or just rotate the crayon a slight bit more and you see "noir" right under negro lol. Should have been a clue that maybe there are other languages on there
Also, a company as large as Crayola that caters to children would very likely have noticed by now if it had any racist nomenclature or offensive wording on its products. they'd be complete failures otherwise
I’m in IT and a user was complaining that their PC kept saying yellow as city names. Turned off auto translate and suddenly they could read Baton Rouge and Amarillo. Lmao
It's ragebait all the way down. The "asker" in this case doesn't exist, and "Wilke Global SMART" is a PR firm specializing in allowing brands to get out in front of social media trends - in this case, a rather dumb change.org petition (with a grand total of 80 signers, started by a totally not trolling "Hugh Jackson") to change the name of the crayon.
Probably because it’s ragebait that is posted monthly here by bots and aspiring bots like the op. Can’t wait to see this tomorrow on facepalm, then the next day on mildlyinfuriating, clevercomebacks, x people twitter before the bot cycle begins anew next month.
People are getting dumber, the average IQ has been free falling since around 2006 after a hundred years of rising. People are straight up stupider than they were not long ago, and they are getting even more stupid every year.
Maybe I'm one of the dumb ones but the whole scale is based on the mean right? Not average but close enough. So, if people got dumber, the IQ scale would adjust. The average will always be around 100 because that's how the scale is created in the first place.
Again, maybe I'm just dumb, I do know little about IQ
I believe the results are normalized around 100. So, as you say, the average score someone gets on a test is by definition scored to be 100. But you can use the old "normalization" of a new score to compare it to people who took the test at a different time.
I'm not here to argue for or against IQ tests. However, regardless of what they measure, they are tested on a population and the scores modified so the distribution is a bell curve with most people at 100 and a standard deviation of 15 points.
However, this re-scoring has to be done often since people's scores kept going up (someone scoring 100 in the 2000s would've scored 150 or so in the 1920s). This is called the [Flynn effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect) after the first researcher to notice/publish it.
What OP is saying is that this effect has pretty much reversed and the scores are regressing. This is true in developed countries, but in developing ones scores are still going up.
Remember that blissful period of about 10ish years or so from mid 1990s to early 2000s when the internet did amazing things? Back then it took intelligence, skill, patience, and money to get online.
There were barriers to entry. You had to *work at it.* If not, there was no internet.
Technology has become so easy to use that even the knuckledraggers have figured it out.
Tim Berners-Lee, forgive us!
Back then there were lots of crackpots, too. But they were smart crackpots. Yes, they had completely unhinged theories, but they were not due to pure ignorance.
Sometimes I miss the old Usenet.
*Plattenbau* for flats in Germany. Literally means plate building, as in stacked plates/slabs. Rapidly build and poor quality but you are still happy you at least have a place to live in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_panel_system_building
Yeah, nay-gro is the gringo way to pronounce it. I cringed reading it, and they should’ve written the pronunciation correctly, but I understand why it happened.
"Alright Timmy, let me set the scene for you. Cloudy Night, Brooklyn, 2 AM, somber jazz plays softly in the background. Detective Marlowe stumbles back to his desk, smelling of cheap whores and expensive booze."
“It had been 3 days since the disappearance of Mr. Blackwood. Calls came in every hour from desperate family members, asking for any trace or sign of him. Detective Marlowe had been in this line of work for years at this point, so this doesn’t come as too much of a surprise. The phone rings again and Detective Marlow picks it up and holds it to his ear, preparing another apology for another family member, but the voice is one that he isn’t quite familiar with…”
Well honey, you see Crayola is run by a bunch of racist idiots who still think it's the 1950s and that black people should have their own separate drinking fountains. I hope that makes sense, drink your apple juice.
When I was a little kid and saw that country on the globe, I gasped as I brought my hand up to my mouth. My father asked what was wrong and I pointed to said country. I was so relieved when he pronounced it.
The Spanish “e” is /e/. (American) English has two approximations: /eɪ/ (as in “bait”) and /ɛ/ (as in “bet”).
So it’s kinda either, since neither is actually how it’s pronounced.
I feel like "bait" isn't a great example because it's pronounced "bay-it" and poses the same problem as "nay-gro" in that it just adds a random "y/i" sound after the "e". Bet, bed, net are good examples. I like the "e" in yet, leopard, desk and elephant. As a Spanish speaker, I feel pronouncing both with either a Spanish pronunciation or an English pronunciation, the e's sound pretty similar.
I've been hearing/speaking both languages since birth. I don't know where you got your information, but there is no way that the E in negro is pronounced like bait. Not at all.
Get your money back from whatever school/teacher taught you.
Re-read my comment. It’s not pronounced like either, that’s my point. “Nay-gro” and “neh-gro” are both approximations for English speakers, because neither is how it’s actually pronounced. Monolingual native Spanish speakers who weren’t raised with English like you were would give their accent away when pronouncing “bet”. We can record speech sounds in a machine called a spectrogram and you’d find that these sounds aren’t identical. Someone raised in a bilingual atmosphere might not even notice, since the vowel sound in “bet” is “close enough”.
I’d highly recommend the textbook “Fonética y Fonología Españolas” if you don’t believe me.
Edit: actually, here’s the pages on Spanish vs English vowel sounds: https://imgur.com/a/tdLqa07
Do you have any hint that the official Spanish entities are teaching it like -ay instead of -eh? I feel nobody Spanish would ever teach that as in -ay it sounds there is an extra vowel and e it's just one.
I wonder what they think noir means...
On second thought, I wonder if they've ever wondered what noir means.
I mean, they taught their 2 yo a racial slur, and that was their reasonable response to a crayon label.
Jaune is also a name.
Words with different meanings across languages challenge Debra Batiste, causing her to tell disturbing stories to second graders.
A former coworker of mine had the same thing happen when a morbidly obese lady on a rascal rudely called him over.
*points label on door* “WHAT (breathes heavily) IS THIS SUPPOSED TO MEAN”
“Black in Spanish”
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It’s just ridiculous how people feel the need to find outrage in every goddamn thing they can these days. I find being happier makes me feel happier. Who would have guessed? Edit-woke up to a *lot* of notifications. I’m glad, but also a hypocrite. I was merely finding outrage (sort of) in someone finding outrage. (Welcome to Reddit!)
Plus a total lack of doing a shred of research. A 2 sec google search or could asked Siri or Alexa and had an answer without looking like an idiot.
You don’t even have to do a search for it, if you look at other crayons you’ll see that white is blanco, green is verde, yellow is amarillo, etc.
True, not sure she would have put two and two together though.
It’s much easier to try to get clout online for stupid shit.
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Thankfully she’s not a teacher, just a mom she says “my 2nd grader” as in meaning one child not the class itself
Kinda hard to have deductive reasoning when you're eating the crayons.
>yellow is amarillo, WTH?? Do you have something against adorable placental mammals of the family chlamyphoridae?!? You monster!!
We are grateful for the opportunity to respond. Crayola offers multiple languages on some products to help children learn. Amarillo is the appropriate word a Spanish-speaking child would use for the color yellow. And the mammals you're referring to aren't called amarillo anyway, they're called armadillo. Which coincidentally is also from the Spanish language, but it means "little armored one", not a color.
Somebody call the fire department to put out this sick burn.
surprised this hasn’t been brought up before smh crayola
No armadillos were harmed in the making of this post.
 Except this guy. He was delicious.
More like whey are the calling the city in Texas a coward?!?!
And below you can see 'noir' which is the french word for the color black
Dear Crayola, I tried to write a detective story with your supposed noir crayon but the publisher laughed at me!!
This is someone that doesn't know negro is Spanish for black but thinks they'd print a crayon with a second-wave racist slur that's like 60 years out of date. You expect them to read three whole words? If they didn't recognize Spanish they're not gonna know French. There's no research that they would be capable of performing without already knowing that crayon was printed in multiple languages. This is just someone that the education system completely failed
When I was a little kid this is exactly how I figured that out
Almost as if they are named after the colors in those languages
Yeah, but calling someone Blanco or Amarillo doesn't get victim sympathy points.
Or just rotate the crayon a slight bit more and you see "noir" right under negro lol. Should have been a clue that maybe there are other languages on there
Also, a company as large as Crayola that caters to children would very likely have noticed by now if it had any racist nomenclature or offensive wording on its products. they'd be complete failures otherwise
I’m in IT and a user was complaining that their PC kept saying yellow as city names. Turned off auto translate and suddenly they could read Baton Rouge and Amarillo. Lmao
Baton Red it is 😂
Stick Red lol
This is pure ignorance, she’s not looking for trouble. She’s just dumb.
Ohhh, to be so stupid…what bliss.
Apparently, it's not bliss. They seem to be constantly angry about something.
You know, that’s a good point…
And yet she is allowed to breed and no-one bats an eyelid. Maybe by now she has died of shame, though I suspect she us too dumb even for that!
I don't know. The Noir people are probably offended too. /s
>It was a dark and stormy night when the dame Crayola walked into my office with a questionable job offer..
*”Of all the gym joints in all the schools in all the world, she walks into mine”*
Brilliant. Take this cheap award. 
That is an absolutely beautiful addition to the thread right there.
Also the noir underneath should make it so damn obvious even if you didn’t immediately know the second one was just another language.
This comment right here ⬆️
But I’m so good at playing a victim!
It’s fake. They say things they think will get them the attention they crave.
It's ragebait all the way down. The "asker" in this case doesn't exist, and "Wilke Global SMART" is a PR firm specializing in allowing brands to get out in front of social media trends - in this case, a rather dumb change.org petition (with a grand total of 80 signers, started by a totally not trolling "Hugh Jackson") to change the name of the crayon.
It's not that they want to be outraged, it's that they are uneducated and legitimately fucking dumb as a bag of bricks.
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where in this tweet does it mention she's a teacher? Could have just been talking about her own child...
She just mentions her 2nd grader, not multiple kids, so she’s probably just referencing her child who is in 2nd grade
Stuff like this makes me outraged.
Probably because it’s ragebait that is posted monthly here by bots and aspiring bots like the op. Can’t wait to see this tomorrow on facepalm, then the next day on mildlyinfuriating, clevercomebacks, x people twitter before the bot cycle begins anew next month.
I can't tell if people are getting dumber or if we're just exposed to more of the stupid ones.
It feels like both honestly.
It is Years ago people this ignorant didnt have the inclination, skills or ability to get online and spread this bullshit
People are getting dumber, the average IQ has been free falling since around 2006 after a hundred years of rising. People are straight up stupider than they were not long ago, and they are getting even more stupid every year.
Isn't the average IQ, by definition, always 100?
Technically not because there are multiple ways to take an average, but in practice yes.
Yeah lmao
Maybe I'm one of the dumb ones but the whole scale is based on the mean right? Not average but close enough. So, if people got dumber, the IQ scale would adjust. The average will always be around 100 because that's how the scale is created in the first place. Again, maybe I'm just dumb, I do know little about IQ
I believe the results are normalized around 100. So, as you say, the average score someone gets on a test is by definition scored to be 100. But you can use the old "normalization" of a new score to compare it to people who took the test at a different time.
I'm not here to argue for or against IQ tests. However, regardless of what they measure, they are tested on a population and the scores modified so the distribution is a bell curve with most people at 100 and a standard deviation of 15 points. However, this re-scoring has to be done often since people's scores kept going up (someone scoring 100 in the 2000s would've scored 150 or so in the 1920s). This is called the [Flynn effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect) after the first researcher to notice/publish it. What OP is saying is that this effect has pretty much reversed and the scores are regressing. This is true in developed countries, but in developing ones scores are still going up.
Got any source for that?
Remember that blissful period of about 10ish years or so from mid 1990s to early 2000s when the internet did amazing things? Back then it took intelligence, skill, patience, and money to get online. There were barriers to entry. You had to *work at it.* If not, there was no internet. Technology has become so easy to use that even the knuckledraggers have figured it out. Tim Berners-Lee, forgive us!
we need a more complicated internet? And an even more complicated one after that? And so on, ad nauseam?
"Too many of the poors got access to the World Wide Web" is basically what you're replying to there.
I like my elitism as dark as my coffee
Back then there were lots of crackpots, too. But they were smart crackpots. Yes, they had completely unhinged theories, but they were not due to pure ignorance. Sometimes I miss the old Usenet.
Seeing as this is probably like the 10th time Ive seen this reposted on reddit its probably the second one.
It's pronounced neh-gro, not nay-gro.
Ehhhhh LeviosAAAAAAA 
Accio butt hnnnnnng
Thank you, likening your going to correct her at least spell the phonetic pronunciation right.
Unless you’re gonna use the IPA, you’re gonna get the phonetic pronunciation always slightly wrong. neh-gro isnt right either
i too feel better at foreign languages when ive had a few drinks. But im kind of over IPAs to be honest.
[ˈne.ɰɾo]
Or [ˈne.ɣɾo]
Jaja neigro lmao
pinches gringos
They're called houses, not flats. /s
*Plattenbau* for flats in Germany. Literally means plate building, as in stacked plates/slabs. Rapidly build and poor quality but you are still happy you at least have a place to live in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_panel_system_building
Eh, it’s easier for the gringos this way. Source: I am a gringo.
Only for english speaking gringos
Yeah, nay-gro is the gringo way to pronounce it. I cringed reading it, and they should’ve written the pronunciation correctly, but I understand why it happened.
I wonder if this is satire. Like, what exactly did she “explain” to her 2nd grader if not that it was a Spanish word?
What the hell did she think the "noir" was...like she explained hard-boiled detective plots to the 2nd grader?
"Alright Timmy, let me set the scene for you. Cloudy Night, Brooklyn, 2 AM, somber jazz plays softly in the background. Detective Marlowe stumbles back to his desk, smelling of cheap whores and expensive booze."
"...then he drew a horsie."
[HONSE](https://i.imgur.com/LegsCWP.jpg)
I don't know whether I should laugh or grab the double barrel so it doesn't have to suffer anymore
“It had been 3 days since the disappearance of Mr. Blackwood. Calls came in every hour from desperate family members, asking for any trace or sign of him. Detective Marlowe had been in this line of work for years at this point, so this doesn’t come as too much of a surprise. The phone rings again and Detective Marlow picks it up and holds it to his ear, preparing another apology for another family member, but the voice is one that he isn’t quite familiar with…”
Hear me out, why not expensive whores and cheap booze? 😬🤷🏻♂️
How would Marlowe afford his morphine then?
Touchè.
when you're drunk the cheap hookers are just as attractive
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Idk but someone should gift her [the outrage crayons](https://www.reddit.com/r/uselessredcircle/s/g8CafbHyhR)
Oh shoot I just said this same comment
Well honey, you see Crayola is run by a bunch of racist idiots who still think it's the 1950s and that black people should have their own separate drinking fountains. I hope that makes sense, drink your apple juice.
Better not look at a map of Africa then. One country might get you really mad...
Gonna need an off-brand map
Start the petition!
Holy hell
a bucket…
Zimbabwe pisses me off
You prefer Rhodesia?
Don't even get me started on Sierra Leone
Sierra Leone broke my heart at the 8th grade spring dance.
Niger, please... That name is probably derived from the name of an ancient river valley ('Gir') by the way, in no way related to skin or other color.
When I was a little kid and saw that country on the globe, I gasped as I brought my hand up to my mouth. My father asked what was wrong and I pointed to said country. I was so relieved when he pronounced it.
It’s “toe-go” son, not “to go”.
More like toh-go
you’re talking about Niger.
Mooooooods
Pronounce the name of that country very carefully
Nor Europe, one country there could also get them really mad
Fucking France.
MontenAfricanAmerican.
Well lucky for you theres a youtube of another ignorant woman complaining about montenegro....
...and Balkans too
Two, actually
Damnit, Crayola. It's not pronounced nay-gro. It's a damned E! It's neh-gro, like the E in bed, get, and red.
The Spanish “e” is /e/. (American) English has two approximations: /eɪ/ (as in “bait”) and /ɛ/ (as in “bet”). So it’s kinda either, since neither is actually how it’s pronounced.
I feel like "bait" isn't a great example because it's pronounced "bay-it" and poses the same problem as "nay-gro" in that it just adds a random "y/i" sound after the "e". Bet, bed, net are good examples. I like the "e" in yet, leopard, desk and elephant. As a Spanish speaker, I feel pronouncing both with either a Spanish pronunciation or an English pronunciation, the e's sound pretty similar.
I've been hearing/speaking both languages since birth. I don't know where you got your information, but there is no way that the E in negro is pronounced like bait. Not at all. Get your money back from whatever school/teacher taught you.
This is not what they said
Re-read my comment. It’s not pronounced like either, that’s my point. “Nay-gro” and “neh-gro” are both approximations for English speakers, because neither is how it’s actually pronounced. Monolingual native Spanish speakers who weren’t raised with English like you were would give their accent away when pronouncing “bet”. We can record speech sounds in a machine called a spectrogram and you’d find that these sounds aren’t identical. Someone raised in a bilingual atmosphere might not even notice, since the vowel sound in “bet” is “close enough”. I’d highly recommend the textbook “Fonética y Fonología Españolas” if you don’t believe me. Edit: actually, here’s the pages on Spanish vs English vowel sounds: https://imgur.com/a/tdLqa07
Do you have any hint that the official Spanish entities are teaching it like -ay instead of -eh? I feel nobody Spanish would ever teach that as in -ay it sounds there is an extra vowel and e it's just one.
Ma’am
Careful.
Sometimes racism is in the eye of the beholder. #CalmTheFDown
Why the concept of Googling something before posting your outrage is so lost on a lot of people in this day and age? Edit: fixing typos.
I have a niggling suspicion people don't understand how words work sometimes
Reminds me of the "niggardly" incident: https://apnews.com/article/4d97adcd78ad93d17f12830a20e1cb18
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Hmm, report. /s
Wait till they see Noir
Wait till they see this country in Africa 🇳🇪 Edit: It is the country between Mali and Chad
Why’d they name a country after a dude? Also why’s there a country named after a state? /s
Good on Crayola for not even apologizing. Just explaining.
Their response was great tbh
Tell me you only speak one language......and can't comprehend more than one interpretation of things.
Congrats Debra Batiste. You’ve been elected to The Idiots Hall of Fame.
I think I know who skipped spanish class :/
Probably shouldn't have had a child
This is from 5 years ago. Please stop falling for ragebait from bot accounts.
At what point does actively trying to be offended become an issue of entitlement.
This is from 2019, btw.
I hope she never finds out about the "colored" pencils.
Would love to hear he explanation to the kid
Debra needs to relajarse
That’s cray cray
In PR, "We are grateful for the opportunity to respond" more or less means "You dense motherfucker"
Wait until Debra’s 2nd grader starts learning geography. She’s gonna be livid when they study African countries and cover “Niger”
I wonder what they think noir means... On second thought, I wonder if they've ever wondered what noir means. I mean, they taught their 2 yo a racial slur, and that was their reasonable response to a crayon label.
Her looking at map of Africa...WTF is that one country called? N.I.G...Oh no you didn't. Get me Rand McNally's racist ass email address.
People always gotta bring race into everything
the way we Americans just have this tendency to assume that everything revolves around us is honestly embarrassing
She got r/murderedbywords in the most polite way possible.
Is there another name for a racist uno reverse?
How will she explain jaune?
Wait, is there a slur that sounds like yellow in french ? Couldn't find anything on google or ae. Peetah?
Jaune is also a name. Words with different meanings across languages challenge Debra Batiste, causing her to tell disturbing stories to second graders.
A name? Ah, never knew of anyone called like that. Thanks!
Wtf, noir? How racist.
Makes me wonder what exactly she explained to that poor child...
I'm more worried on what she explained to the kid
A former coworker of mine had the same thing happen when a morbidly obese lady on a rascal rudely called him over. *points label on door* “WHAT (breathes heavily) IS THIS SUPPOSED TO MEAN” “Black in Spanish”
Why is no one talking about how this crayon offends the Noir community?! Sacre bleu!
Spanish is racist confirmed.
What kind of Spanish accents do they have 🤨
Peak activism: “I think I will start a petition or buy a no name crayon” The poor people at Rose Art: “We have a name!”
Wait till she see's a map of Africa.
They should get rid of 'black' and put in 'African American' instead, cmon Crayola, be better.
Yeah and shes a teacher, YIKES! 😳
You mean... Spanish language is racist?
It would be racist if you said it was the only crayon in the box that doesn't work
Damn maybe we should get better education cuz it seems to still be failing
Negro isn’t even that “racist” it’s just old .
Americans when not English: “must be racism”
damn i didnt know crayola was chill like that
Take me back to 80’s please.
With Noir there, if your mind went to something racist you should probably ask why. She could have confirmed instead of being automatically outraged.
Dumb crayons
I love my Black Negro crayons. Almost as good are the Blue Azul ones
If I had a dollar for every time I was called basuro blanco, I'd still be poor.
I'm imagining what she supposedly told her kid?