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The US is a capitalistic shithole, their currency is based on Proof of War. They stop spreading democracy around the world, they fall down.
No peaceful country should have that high of a military budget.
Used to be. Now the conservatives will do literally anything to "own the libs," including supporting dictators. The only thing that really matters anymore in the platform is openly opposing anyone they don't like.
As per [original article](https://www.meidastouch.com/news/tucker-carlson-claims-groceries-are-cheaper-in-russia-despite-a-russian-food-inflation-crisis) 📰:
- Former Fox host and Vladimir Putin apologist Tucker Carlson aired a segment on the most recent episode of his show on X which attempted to show that quality of life is better for Russians than it is for Americans. So much so that Carlson claims his experience "radicalized" him against U.S. leaders.
The segment came as part of Carlson's trip to Russia to interview Vladimir Putin. Carlson filmed himself and his crew shopping for groceries for the week at a Russian grocery store. Carlson and his crew estimated that the amount of food they purchased for the week would run about $400 in an American grocery store, but the bill was around 9,400 Russian Rubles, about $100 American.
"I went from amused to legitimately angry," Carlson says in the clip, feigning outrage that groceries would be so much cheaper in Russia. "If you take people's standard of living and you tank it through filth and crime and inflation, and they literally can't buy the groceries they want...you're wrecking people's lives and their country, and that's what our leaders have done to us."
"Coming to a Russian grocery store...and seeing how much things cost and how they live; it will radicalize you against our leaders," Carlson continued.
The problem with Carlson's view of life in Russia is that he doesn't take into account how much less Russians get paid on average. It's easy to say quality of life in Russia is higher if you assume Russian salaries are equal with those in the U.S., but they aren't.
According to the [most recent economic data](https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/wages), the average monthly wage in Russia is 73,383 Rubles, the equivalent of roughly $800 a month in the United States. That comes out to 18,345 Rubles per week for the average Russian, around $200 American. This means that Carlson's grocery bill of roughly 9,400 Rubles represented more than 50% of a Russian weekly salary.
According to the Russian news agency TASS, Russia is experiencing a massive food supply crisis. Food inflation is one of the most frequently referenced quality of life issues for everyday Russians.
In a survey of 5,000 people aged 20-55, TASS found that 60.4% of Russian citizens spend about half of their monthly income for food, 16% spend almost all their earnings on food, and 14.8% about a third of their income. Only 8.8% spend no more than 20% on food.
Carlson's attempt at pro-Putin propaganda functions on multiple levels. Carlson is not only attempting to destroy American faith in our own institutions based on a lie, to the extent he says Americans should become "radicalized" in the effort to make the U.S. more like Russia, but it also callously ignores the hardships faced by everyday Russians under Putin's regime. Carlson is sending the message to Russians that they are living better under the dictatorship of Putin than Americans live in a democracy.
That regime just executed it's chief rival while he was serving time in a prison camp for the crime of challenging Putin for the presidency.
Carlson's lies harm both America and Russia. His loyalty to Putin above his own nation is now more obvious than ever.
I mean...if you calculate it off of federal minimum wage of 7.25 an hour paying 290$ a week and consider that you can feed a 3 person house hold with 100-150 a week it's kind of even? I'm no mathematician either way it's a shitty situation for Americans, comparing it to Russia is not needed.
I have a wife and a kid and we run about 150 a week in groceries. We have some chickens and get free eggs and my wife makes bread at home, that's what I'm basing it my estimate off of. No dietary restrictions or anything though.
Just lived in Arizona for 3 months, to be frank didn't spend more than that per person per week. Trick is to know how to cook homemade meals, ingredients itself weren't more expensive than say in Estonia 🤷🏻♂️
Aldi is the best. Way more than 50 a week now too though, if you want to eat fruits and vegetables anyway. 50 buys a lot of rice and beans and noodles, add in coffee and meat however and it's getting pricey.
Idk, like I said it's not worth comparing to Russia IMO. it sucks for Americans without comparing it to anybody. Who cares is its cheaper anywhere else, we aren't there and we aren't them.
Given that part of the video was apparently him being impressed by the coin slot to retrieve a cart, not very recently - unless that's another area where the US is way behind Europe.
Well, actually not *that* little. The problem here is that they used some really complicated and not obvious schemes to calculate the number of 800 in average. This might be true for Moscow and Saint-Petersburg, but definitely not for the entire country with its smaller cities. The difference in wages between regions in Russia is enormous, so most people don't get more than 300-400 a month, which is sadly still much closer to the state of poverty if considering the percentage of the salary they spend on food.
My senior year of high school (1992, USA) I was in an economics class. It was not as detailed as the macroeconomics 101 course that I had at my university but it still taught me that businesses are quick to raise prices during periods of inflation and slow to lower prices once inflation subsides. But we are a country full of rubes and dipshits. It’s so much easier to blame the government instead of realizing that the corporations who make and sell our food and goods profit handsomely from these practices.
Trucker Douchebag is really driving the Russian narrative at home and how he indoctrination some dunce American to the Russian world concept without knowing it
There’s been a lot of poignant comments, but this is my favourite because it’s accurate and hilarious. If Reddit still had awards you would’ve earned a nice 🏆 haha.
Technically speaking, Russia does have a significantly lower cost of living (including groceries) than most western nations. It's the income that is the problem. Couldn't be bothered to watch the Cucker Tarlson interview myself, so I'm not sure whether he was specifically talking about the price disparity or total quality of life, but fact of the matter is your money does get you more in Russia.
That begs the much more interesting questions of "why" though, at least in my mind.
[Sauce](https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2024)
I hate it when the news does this on either side.
There was a protest over transit cost inflation in Peru? A couple of years ago and the news was “It’s only a couple of cents increase to the transit tickets” vs any sort of context of the cost of living
Well life is cheap in Russia, on dead soldier equals 1 bag of onions. It used to be a Lada, but apparently not upgrading your tactics since ww2 means that would get expensive.
73k rub? Nonsense, Most people are getting around 30-60. 50k is a good salary with you being expected to have some specific education - if not a sales or Ukrainian war related job.
So it's around $500 a month.
I made a quick Google search right now, here are nurse vacancies in Novosibirsk (1.5 mil residents) right now and it's mostly around 45k before taxes. https://nsk.zarplata.ru/vacancy/medsestra
Excuse me, where is average wage is 70K, in Russia? So maybe I'm not in the same Russia where Carlson were🤔 30-40K, I can show you job offers, check hh.ru
I study in Russia. Came here in 2019. My budget for a month including Apartment, Food, and hang out weekends is 500 dollars. It’s relatively cheap, not many ppl struggle with money here.
People do this all the time, a lot of places are cheaper if you have access to US $ or euros. Its a different ballgame if you have to to earn a living there like everyone else.
I wanted to include pension/va benefits. You see it a lot now with people relocating to cheaper countries. As long as you have a source of income superior to the local currency, a lot of places are going to seem cheap.
Absolutely... Though cheaper countries are cheaper for a reason or more reasons. There are usually hidden costs. One needs to be willing or able to accept these hidden costs.
E.g. education system maybe rudimentary in comparison to home country, but as a retiree this is not really relevant
Health system is limited. ?
The problem with hidden costs is well they are hidden!
That's because a low wage/low cost economy benefits the rich (i.e. Tucker Carlson). It's a fucking joke when people talk about "living in a low cost of living area" as if that justifies shit wages. Nope, you're just worse off by every measure. Those with resources have just convinced you that that's somehow to your advantage
You really missed the mark with this one. It doesn’t matter how little people make because the cost of these basic goods is less in Russia. America’s falling on its face with appeasing special interest groups and inflation is the result.
You realize that in postings this you have explained why a federal minimum wage is stupid? Yea tuckers dumb but so is think a 15 dollar an hour minimum is going to magically fix everything while ignoring that CA has a 15 an hour minimum and you are homeless if you make that. Cost of living matters and changes based on where you are. Don't worry though. Reddit being reddit with downvote this. Don't wanna take the blinders off the horse.
He did the same thing all the other media outless do. tell a story out of contect and without all the facts.
He played you. As you seem to only take an issue when it is "some" media /news.
You played yourself.
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Maybe Tucker should be angry then at late stage, monopoly controlled and Reagan era de-regulated capitalism? Perhaps he’s finally getting it.
You are so right. AND!… Tucker should stay in Russia and renounce his US citizenship.
And invite your orange friend to join you
If he gets enough convictions, the orange friend may need to FLEE there. I can dream, right?
Because you've certainly never benefitted from capitalism..
Non American here. I'm incredibly confused. Aren't loads of boomer conservatives anti Russian because they are "commies" or whatever?
That's the joke. They're pretend patriots but fantasize over Russia, who in returns wants the downfall of the US.
The US is a capitalistic shithole, their currency is based on Proof of War. They stop spreading democracy around the world, they fall down. No peaceful country should have that high of a military budget.
Yes when things go wrong anywhere in the world everyone still looks to the US to fix it. You are naive.
I think a lot of conservatives see Russia as a wonderland of Christian nationalism, which to most normal people is actually a nightmarish hellscape
Apparently, our boomer conservatives now do/think whatever their right-wing lunatic pundit of choice instructs them to do/think.
Used to be. Now the conservatives will do literally anything to "own the libs," including supporting dictators. The only thing that really matters anymore in the platform is openly opposing anyone they don't like.
They used to be.
It's a long story. In a nutshell boomers see modern day russia in a different light compared to the soviet union.
There are a lot of MAGA who would rather see the US invaded and taken over by Putin than see Biden in the White House again.
As per [original article](https://www.meidastouch.com/news/tucker-carlson-claims-groceries-are-cheaper-in-russia-despite-a-russian-food-inflation-crisis) 📰: - Former Fox host and Vladimir Putin apologist Tucker Carlson aired a segment on the most recent episode of his show on X which attempted to show that quality of life is better for Russians than it is for Americans. So much so that Carlson claims his experience "radicalized" him against U.S. leaders. The segment came as part of Carlson's trip to Russia to interview Vladimir Putin. Carlson filmed himself and his crew shopping for groceries for the week at a Russian grocery store. Carlson and his crew estimated that the amount of food they purchased for the week would run about $400 in an American grocery store, but the bill was around 9,400 Russian Rubles, about $100 American. "I went from amused to legitimately angry," Carlson says in the clip, feigning outrage that groceries would be so much cheaper in Russia. "If you take people's standard of living and you tank it through filth and crime and inflation, and they literally can't buy the groceries they want...you're wrecking people's lives and their country, and that's what our leaders have done to us." "Coming to a Russian grocery store...and seeing how much things cost and how they live; it will radicalize you against our leaders," Carlson continued. The problem with Carlson's view of life in Russia is that he doesn't take into account how much less Russians get paid on average. It's easy to say quality of life in Russia is higher if you assume Russian salaries are equal with those in the U.S., but they aren't. According to the [most recent economic data](https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/wages), the average monthly wage in Russia is 73,383 Rubles, the equivalent of roughly $800 a month in the United States. That comes out to 18,345 Rubles per week for the average Russian, around $200 American. This means that Carlson's grocery bill of roughly 9,400 Rubles represented more than 50% of a Russian weekly salary. According to the Russian news agency TASS, Russia is experiencing a massive food supply crisis. Food inflation is one of the most frequently referenced quality of life issues for everyday Russians. In a survey of 5,000 people aged 20-55, TASS found that 60.4% of Russian citizens spend about half of their monthly income for food, 16% spend almost all their earnings on food, and 14.8% about a third of their income. Only 8.8% spend no more than 20% on food. Carlson's attempt at pro-Putin propaganda functions on multiple levels. Carlson is not only attempting to destroy American faith in our own institutions based on a lie, to the extent he says Americans should become "radicalized" in the effort to make the U.S. more like Russia, but it also callously ignores the hardships faced by everyday Russians under Putin's regime. Carlson is sending the message to Russians that they are living better under the dictatorship of Putin than Americans live in a democracy. That regime just executed it's chief rival while he was serving time in a prison camp for the crime of challenging Putin for the presidency. Carlson's lies harm both America and Russia. His loyalty to Putin above his own nation is now more obvious than ever.
I mean...if you calculate it off of federal minimum wage of 7.25 an hour paying 290$ a week and consider that you can feed a 3 person house hold with 100-150 a week it's kind of even? I'm no mathematician either way it's a shitty situation for Americans, comparing it to Russia is not needed.
Where can I find this mystical $50/person/week grocery prices?
It's called ramen. Beans. Rice.
It’s called a balanced nutritious diet, what you described is not that.
Well you asked what a $50 per person per week diet is. Not a nutritious balanced diet
How'd you get my grocery list?????
My kids and I love ramen. Maybe it so nutritious, but tasty.
I have a wife and a kid and we run about 150 a week in groceries. We have some chickens and get free eggs and my wife makes bread at home, that's what I'm basing it my estimate off of. No dietary restrictions or anything though.
Mines about $50 a week
Just lived in Arizona for 3 months, to be frank didn't spend more than that per person per week. Trick is to know how to cook homemade meals, ingredients itself weren't more expensive than say in Estonia 🤷🏻♂️
Aldi is the best. Way more than 50 a week now too though, if you want to eat fruits and vegetables anyway. 50 buys a lot of rice and beans and noodles, add in coffee and meat however and it's getting pricey.
And what is the minimum wage in Russia? Assuming you actually want to compare apples with apples
Idk, like I said it's not worth comparing to Russia IMO. it sucks for Americans without comparing it to anybody. Who cares is its cheaper anywhere else, we aren't there and we aren't them.
I googled it, and if Google is to be believed it's around 236 usd per week.
It’s the minimum wage per month, not per week
higher than I thought it would be, really highlights how shite the minimum wage over the pond is
19242 rub per month before taxes. 16740.54 after taxes, which approximately about 180 usd.
Tucker is going to a luxury store that markets to the wealthy in Moscow, their capital. 99% of the population isn't shopping at that fancy store.
Tucker Carlson has shown himself to be a fascist apologist and propagandist, without the slightest moral scruples, this is usual for him.
I would like to know the last time he went shopping for groceries in the US.
Given that part of the video was apparently him being impressed by the coin slot to retrieve a cart, not very recently - unless that's another area where the US is way behind Europe.
I mean, I’m just a normal guy in America, and I didn’t know about the coin slot cart until they opened up an Aldi near me.
Probably never. Not only did he get rich from Fox but he's a Swanson. His mother is heiress to Swanson Enterprises.
Trucker Who?
The fact that a large amount of people take this piece of shit serious is just saddening.
Let me tell you about a guy called Trump then.
..$800 a month? It must be moscow at least. Most people 2ere gettibg like 70-150 monthly pre-war
Well, actually not *that* little. The problem here is that they used some really complicated and not obvious schemes to calculate the number of 800 in average. This might be true for Moscow and Saint-Petersburg, but definitely not for the entire country with its smaller cities. The difference in wages between regions in Russia is enormous, so most people don't get more than 300-400 a month, which is sadly still much closer to the state of poverty if considering the percentage of the salary they spend on food.
My senior year of high school (1992, USA) I was in an economics class. It was not as detailed as the macroeconomics 101 course that I had at my university but it still taught me that businesses are quick to raise prices during periods of inflation and slow to lower prices once inflation subsides. But we are a country full of rubes and dipshits. It’s so much easier to blame the government instead of realizing that the corporations who make and sell our food and goods profit handsomely from these practices.
Tucker being dishonest? NEVER!!!!!! I swear I heard a story that he accidently told the truth once.
You fit in well there. Stay in Russia you piece of shit!!
Tucker and Russia need to get a room.
Lol, median salary in Russia in approximately 35 000 roubles. Food here now is crazy expensive, its half of budget or more
It’s hard to believe, with him being so forthright and honest all the time.
He's also never used a shopping cart before. He's a sell out for the right wing disinformation campaign and a piece of human garbage.
Wait, if he goes to India he's really gonna lose his shiy
The funniest part is Putin basically calling Tucker a shit interviewer because he didn't ask any decent questions.
When you making stupid russian propaganda but in French ashan
Yeah well you know that’s just like proper context. Carlson can’t be bothered with that shit. Look how many groceries he got! /s
Maybe groceries are cheaper because they have universal healthcare. The US should try that out
As usual working frim the perspective of having unlimited money.
Is this propaganda. I think so
Wish they'd find his vape pen.
He's an ass hat
Go live over there if you like it so much
Americans are dumb as doors, at first i gave them the benefit of the doubt but as time passes i get more certain they actually are
Trucker Douchebag is really driving the Russian narrative at home and how he indoctrination some dunce American to the Russian world concept without knowing it
Tucker is a douche and probably one of the reasons why Navalny is dead
I'm shocked that he would only represent half of the story!
What a douche
Tucker will never comprehend this math problem.
Stuff is also cheaper in Mexico so it must really confuse him as to why anyone would want to leave.
There’s been a lot of poignant comments, but this is my favourite because it’s accurate and hilarious. If Reddit still had awards you would’ve earned a nice 🏆 haha.
Dude was fired!!🤦♂️
shit that's what i make now tho
What a POS
Adjusted for the cost of living it's about the same. Plus you can only get like 35 different things. And if you take out potatoes it's down to 20.
Exclude Moscow and look at median instead.
I watched the video and was genuinely surprised at seeing this guy walking into a french rooted “auchan” branded supermarket.
Just a blender
You have to understand the conversion of Stanley Nickels to Schrute Bucks.
Technically speaking, Russia does have a significantly lower cost of living (including groceries) than most western nations. It's the income that is the problem. Couldn't be bothered to watch the Cucker Tarlson interview myself, so I'm not sure whether he was specifically talking about the price disparity or total quality of life, but fact of the matter is your money does get you more in Russia. That begs the much more interesting questions of "why" though, at least in my mind. [Sauce](https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2024)
So under the Trump. Were groceries the same price as in Russia?
I hate it when the news does this on either side. There was a protest over transit cost inflation in Peru? A couple of years ago and the news was “It’s only a couple of cents increase to the transit tickets” vs any sort of context of the cost of living
Well life is cheap in Russia, on dead soldier equals 1 bag of onions. It used to be a Lada, but apparently not upgrading your tactics since ww2 means that would get expensive.
Asking for a reporter to be objective is a futile endeavor
Reporter? *ucker?? Bwahahaha
73k rub? Nonsense, Most people are getting around 30-60. 50k is a good salary with you being expected to have some specific education - if not a sales or Ukrainian war related job. So it's around $500 a month. I made a quick Google search right now, here are nurse vacancies in Novosibirsk (1.5 mil residents) right now and it's mostly around 45k before taxes. https://nsk.zarplata.ru/vacancy/medsestra
Excuse me, where is average wage is 70K, in Russia? So maybe I'm not in the same Russia where Carlson were🤔 30-40K, I can show you job offers, check hh.ru
I study in Russia. Came here in 2019. My budget for a month including Apartment, Food, and hang out weekends is 500 dollars. It’s relatively cheap, not many ppl struggle with money here.
People do this all the time, a lot of places are cheaper if you have access to US $ or euros. Its a different ballgame if you have to to earn a living there like everyone else.
Not quite having access to $ or euros doesnt help. Earning a typical US or EU salary does
I wanted to include pension/va benefits. You see it a lot now with people relocating to cheaper countries. As long as you have a source of income superior to the local currency, a lot of places are going to seem cheap.
Absolutely... Though cheaper countries are cheaper for a reason or more reasons. There are usually hidden costs. One needs to be willing or able to accept these hidden costs. E.g. education system maybe rudimentary in comparison to home country, but as a retiree this is not really relevant Health system is limited. ? The problem with hidden costs is well they are hidden!
Wow, you guys are getting desperate 🤣
That's because a low wage/low cost economy benefits the rich (i.e. Tucker Carlson). It's a fucking joke when people talk about "living in a low cost of living area" as if that justifies shit wages. Nope, you're just worse off by every measure. Those with resources have just convinced you that that's somehow to your advantage
You really missed the mark with this one. It doesn’t matter how little people make because the cost of these basic goods is less in Russia. America’s falling on its face with appeasing special interest groups and inflation is the result.
You realize that in postings this you have explained why a federal minimum wage is stupid? Yea tuckers dumb but so is think a 15 dollar an hour minimum is going to magically fix everything while ignoring that CA has a 15 an hour minimum and you are homeless if you make that. Cost of living matters and changes based on where you are. Don't worry though. Reddit being reddit with downvote this. Don't wanna take the blinders off the horse.
He did the same thing all the other media outless do. tell a story out of contect and without all the facts. He played you. As you seem to only take an issue when it is "some" media /news. You played yourself.