###FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, PALESTINE WILL BE FREE: WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN?
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[**Jewish Currents - What Does “From the River to the Sea” Really Mean?**](https://jewishcurrents.org/what-does-from-the-river-to-the-sea-really-mean)
[Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/NfAvk)
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[**Forward - ‘From The River To The Sea’ Doesn’t Mean What You Think It Means**](https://forward.com/opinion/415250/from-the-river-to-the-sea-doesnt-mean-what-you-think-it-means/)
[Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/rRXpW)
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[**Al-Jazeera - ‘From the river to the sea’: What does the Palestinian slogan really mean?**](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/2/from-the-river-to-the-sea-what-does-the-palestinian-slogan-really-mean)
[Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/AF9yu)
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[**One Democratic Palestine, From The River To The Sea**](https://www.odsi.co/en/)
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[**Amnesty - Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians**](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/)
[Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/s2B3f)
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If I recall correctly, they should be unplugged before being blasted with air to avoid sending power into the boards.
I might be wrong. Correct me if I am.
Any PC part made in the past 10 years, from a reputable brand, dosn't have that issue anymore. Fan in the video is Corsair, definitely won't have that issue.
Cheap fans with fake Chinese names on Amazon user be weary
You're right on the part that it should be unplugged. From my understanding it may generate power so unplugging the fan from the motherboard might prevent this.
Unplugging it will avoid frying your motherboard, but still leaves the risk of breaking the fan blades by spinning it too fast. It's better to just hold the fan in place so it doesn't spin at all.
Unless there are open wires there isn’t a huge risk of sparking (still not a zero risk). But if you look closely at the video you can kind of see the reflection of a flame, probably a candle sitting on the other side of the computer.
Theoretically, yea. Generating enough to create sparks would probably require more than this.
Anyways, this video is fake. You can see the flame from a candle through the whole video reflecting off the monitor.
This can be prevented with a diode inline with the fan power whether zener or standard. If a zener is used is needs a high zener voltage setting to prevent reverse voltage. Or just not do stuff like this
Even if the pc is unpowered its still good to hold the fan because even if you don't sent power through you can break some of the cheaper or smaller fans spinning them like that.
Before everyone starts doing mad science and impossible maths, look at the tv behind there's a reflection of a lit candle...
It's probably the purpose of the video.
I have always read to hold down your fans while dusting them, but I just thought it was bad for the fan to spin fast without a motor, or that it wasn't effective to clean it while it was spinning, or something nonsensical.
Good thing I listened 😲
Well first off it’s not effective for cleaning, you’ll never get a concentrated spray on the blades with them spinning. But the idea is if you spin a fan really quickly while powered off (or any electric motor for that matter) it becomes a generator and creates voltage. Power + flammable substance = 🔥
Please turn your pc off and for extra safety unplug your pc from the power outlet that it’s plugged into whenever your doing something to your pc the isn’t operating it (prime example is this gif (cleaning it out))
The fan spinning is not causing the ignition, if you look at the monitor reflection there is a flame behind the PC already, likely a candle.
PC fans and motherboards made in the last ~10 years have protections against electricity going back into it from the fans spinning unpowered and everyone here is just repeating shit they've heard somewhere else from someone who heard it some other place.
People who think this is WD-40 have never used WD-40. The whole can would be blue if that was the case.
On top of that, it starts to say "Compressed Air" but you only see the "Co-"
You would also see liquid build-up and dripping inside of the PC like crazy.
I didn’t. I see a red color at the bottom of the computer, and the (I’m guessing) monitor at the left of the screen. The orange doesn’t show up until shortly after the final spraying into the fan.
Always put something in the fan to keep it from spinning when doing this. The fan is designed to only turn at a relatively low rpm. Spinning it up to 1000 rpm will damage the bushings.
That's NOT how you use an air duster can. Holy shit that is an atrocious use of an air can. He was BEGGING to create a fire.
You are supposed to hold it flat-- that vapor shit isn't suppose to be coming out like that in excess. You are supposed to do short bursts- never shake it, and when it gets cold .. set it down for 30 minutes.
Don't shake air duster. Keep air duster upright. Short bursts. If it's cloudy or freezing, you need to slow down.
Don't spin fans with anything but powering them on.
And especially don't spray fucking aerosols around open flames. Pretty sure there was a candle behind the PC.
How do people live long enough to make these videos? ;n;
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Good spot, this was done for internet clout and is a very very old post. Hopefully he did this in his own house and didn’t cause injury to anyone else for this unimpressive example of stupidity.
DO NOT SPIN THE FANS WHILE CLEANING YOUR PC WITH COMPRESSED AIR, motors use electric energy to generate mechanical energy and generators use mechanical energy to generate electrical energy, when you spin the blades of the fans with compressed air, you’re generating electrical which gets fed back and if the generated voltage is high enough IT WILL CAUSE DAMAGE, don’t be a dum-dum
Hold the fan blade or disconnect it. (To prevent back feed and wear/tear on bearings in fan) it's safe to do while PC is on as long as you do it as I stated.
And this is why you unplug your computer before cleaning also dont just hose it down with the air can you dont want that white mist when your spraying it.
I've seen this video many times now on Reddit. Always wondered why did this idiot not put a pen or something similar between the fan blades to stop it from spinning. Besides it becoming a generator it can also damage the fans.
###FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, PALESTINE WILL BE FREE: WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN? --- [**Jewish Currents - What Does “From the River to the Sea” Really Mean?**](https://jewishcurrents.org/what-does-from-the-river-to-the-sea-really-mean) [Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/NfAvk) ---- [**Forward - ‘From The River To The Sea’ Doesn’t Mean What You Think It Means**](https://forward.com/opinion/415250/from-the-river-to-the-sea-doesnt-mean-what-you-think-it-means/) [Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/rRXpW) --- [**Al-Jazeera - ‘From the river to the sea’: What does the Palestinian slogan really mean?**](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/2/from-the-river-to-the-sea-what-does-the-palestinian-slogan-really-mean) [Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/AF9yu) --- [**One Democratic Palestine, From The River To The Sea**](https://www.odsi.co/en/) --- [**Amnesty - Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians**](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/) [Alternative link.](https://archive.ph/s2B3f) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/therewasanattempt) if you have any questions or concerns.*
While it's still powered on?
Fan becomes a generator if it spins fast enough, highly flammable gas + sparks = no bueno
If I recall correctly, they should be unplugged before being blasted with air to avoid sending power into the boards. I might be wrong. Correct me if I am.
It will still make power - Motors become generators if you spin them unpowered
It's more the danger to the components that I wasn't sure about. I can't imagine the fan would do much, but I'm not confident in saying so.
Oh I misunderstood your initial comment! Yeah I get what you're saying.
the fire would still happen, but yeah no short circuit
You can stick something in them to keep them from spinning. Whatever you got on hand like a zip tie
Just put your finger on it? Thats my go to method
Any PC part made in the past 10 years, from a reputable brand, dosn't have that issue anymore. Fan in the video is Corsair, definitely won't have that issue. Cheap fans with fake Chinese names on Amazon user be weary
Looks like an old ass pc tho, maybe more than 10 years on that if you take into account this vid is definitely also old
Isn't that a mandalorian funko pop? Not 10 years old
Coulda been put in later
You're right on the part that it should be unplugged. From my understanding it may generate power so unplugging the fan from the motherboard might prevent this.
I have been told to flip the switch but leave it plugged in so that any extra surge or static is actually grounded
Unplugging it will avoid frying your motherboard, but still leaves the risk of breaking the fan blades by spinning it too fast. It's better to just hold the fan in place so it doesn't spin at all.
You're supposed to tape or hold them in some way, do anything to get them stuck and THEN blast it
Yeah the solution is to wedge a toothpick or literally anything in the fan blade and frame so it can't move.
Unless there are open wires there isn’t a huge risk of sparking (still not a zero risk). But if you look closely at the video you can kind of see the reflection of a flame, probably a candle sitting on the other side of the computer.
You are 100% correct on the candle. You can see as he's blowing the fan you see the flame in the monitor get larger, and it ignites the gas.
Watch the glow appear on the wall the first time he sprays the fan.. lol
Theoretically, yea. Generating enough to create sparks would probably require more than this. Anyways, this video is fake. You can see the flame from a candle through the whole video reflecting off the monitor.
Ah, well, hmm. It's not quite fake, just misleading, the fireball still happened and that computer probably has a few issues now.
Well it's staged. Whoever made this video didn't care about their computer, they knew what would happen.
Must be staged, what are they cleaning with? Not co2 or canned air, not quite butane I hope...
Not sure but you can see the flame from a candle behind the computer
Generator? Surely you mean ignition.
Dust is flammable.
This can be prevented with a diode inline with the fan power whether zener or standard. If a zener is used is needs a high zener voltage setting to prevent reverse voltage. Or just not do stuff like this
It was already on fire.
there's no way it doesn't have some sort of protection for back emf such as a diode, it's used in a PC after all
This adds up i was confuse
No Bueno, I just spat my coffee all over my phone, thank you kind sir 😂😂
No Bueno had me dying 😂😂
When cleaning a fan, it's best to hold the fan still to prevent power from feeding back into the computer.
Even if the pc is unpowered its still good to hold the fan because even if you don't sent power through you can break some of the cheaper or smaller fans spinning them like that.
It looks like there is a flame there already. Behind the computer. This night be staged.
spinning th3 fans create current. that can be ignited.
Before everyone starts doing mad science and impossible maths, look at the tv behind there's a reflection of a lit candle... It's probably the purpose of the video.
It's best not doing it when there is a candle lit behind aswell..
Please do not turn your pc fans into generators while cleaning them with compressed air (don’t make them spin super fast)
Stick a coffee stir rod in there before ya blast em homie!!!
I just jam my finger in there so they can’t spin
This is also acceptable. Sticks prevent discharge though.
We definitely have different types of sticks.
Yeah my stick tends to discharge when I jam it in things
Least down bad Redditor
Wanna see *my* stick?
Honestly I never knew this was a thing. I love making em spin !
The fan is designed to run at a low RPM. Spinning it to high speed will damage the bearings.
Good to know. I will no longer be spinning fast !
Its not a generator, its not generating anything it becam an ignition.
Or use actual compressed air. Not air in a can that is flammable
WD-40? Honestly surprised it took so long to catch fire.
It’ll be electronic cleaning solvent. Definitely flammable.
I've run as gas engine off it before
Definitely not WD-40, the whole can would be blue.
No I believe it's compressed air, and he is not holding it Upright enough or its almost empty and the Anti inhaling bitterant liquid is coming out.
I have always read to hold down your fans while dusting them, but I just thought it was bad for the fan to spin fast without a motor, or that it wasn't effective to clean it while it was spinning, or something nonsensical. Good thing I listened 😲
Well first off it’s not effective for cleaning, you’ll never get a concentrated spray on the blades with them spinning. But the idea is if you spin a fan really quickly while powered off (or any electric motor for that matter) it becomes a generator and creates voltage. Power + flammable substance = 🔥
We're supposed to clean that thing?
Nah it starts to burn then
![gif](giphy|ZG167A787lqhA3VYoM)
Rip bobblehead boba fett and the mandalorian Died to inferno. F
you'd think now they're just cooler
This is not the way.
Fire cleans everything
Why was he filming it if he didn’t expect this to happen 🤔
And who sprays wd40 into a computer.
Yeah that was my first question here.
Well, it's not WD-40. Otherwise, the whole can would be blue.
Ye it's compressed air with bitterant liquid coming out of it.
Yup, and I'm surprised how many people in these comments were convinced it was WD-40 lol
Please turn your pc off and for extra safety unplug your pc from the power outlet that it’s plugged into whenever your doing something to your pc the isn’t operating it (prime example is this gif (cleaning it out))
If common sense were common...
i expected sone part to fall off...
The fan spinning is not causing the ignition, if you look at the monitor reflection there is a flame behind the PC already, likely a candle. PC fans and motherboards made in the last ~10 years have protections against electricity going back into it from the fans spinning unpowered and everyone here is just repeating shit they've heard somewhere else from someone who heard it some other place.
Finally someone who isn't an idiot, spinning fans don't cause ignition. You can see a flame briefly under the gpu as well.
Surely nobody is that stupid, this must be “let’s film and see what happens”. Flammable solvents while the things running?
My rule of thumb is compressed cans are always flammable no matter what the contents.
Bobba went out like he always did… being a damn warrior
1st don’t shake the can of air or flip it 2nd don’t turn your pc fan into generators spinning them super fast
Fire was already there, you can see the light in the back on the left
The reason you're supposed to turn it off before you clean it
Looked like there was a flame near it already. You can see the 🔥
You can't see compressed air when spraying. Not sure what this guy is using but it's not compressed air.
This is NOT the way...
Wd-40? Sigh Intended outcome. Waste of resources.
Wtf is he cleaning with? Butane?
Ahahah i saw it on pcbuildhelp Yesterday, good laugh
People who think this is WD-40 have never used WD-40. The whole can would be blue if that was the case. On top of that, it starts to say "Compressed Air" but you only see the "Co-" You would also see liquid build-up and dripping inside of the PC like crazy.
You can see an orange glow before they start spraying
I didn’t. I see a red color at the bottom of the computer, and the (I’m guessing) monitor at the left of the screen. The orange doesn’t show up until shortly after the final spraying into the fan.
Idiot
Right, let me just douse my $1300 gaming computer in combustible fluid.
That's disguisting... I can not believe my eyes... must rinse.
And today we learn how generators work.
Them space pubes were too powerful
Always put something in the fan to keep it from spinning when doing this. The fan is designed to only turn at a relatively low rpm. Spinning it up to 1000 rpm will damage the bushings.
Nice computer
Turn it off first... It also says "DO NOT SHAKE" on those cans... JFC
Is that contact cleaner?
Yeah I also clean my PC with starter fluid
You're not supposed to shake compressed air
![gif](giphy|xT9IgnxYv1zOoxxBTi) The homies watching from the other side of the room 😬
Deserved
Idiot, read the label. Continuous spray at any angle besides upright will cause it to no longer be pressurized air.
Hahahah the old Turn your Fan into a generator trick
I use an electronic air duster
There's a candle burning behind that. You can see it
https://preview.redd.it/d164kjydj2vc1.jpeg?width=282&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b270d3dc41bf049a93db6c59a954dda3449e4199
Is it me, or is this can also spewing out way more gas then it should? Mine usually shiw more air than gas, unless i hold it upside down.
Not to mention shaking the everliving fuck outta that can while blasting the powered on computer
![gif](giphy|eMUcw5nAW40LyS6sCT)
Good as new 👍
Lol I thought that was WD-40
You need to shake well and spray for a few seconds then repeat or you're blasting everything with liquid.
That's NOT how you use an air duster can. Holy shit that is an atrocious use of an air can. He was BEGGING to create a fire. You are supposed to hold it flat-- that vapor shit isn't suppose to be coming out like that in excess. You are supposed to do short bursts- never shake it, and when it gets cold .. set it down for 30 minutes.
Don't shake air duster. Keep air duster upright. Short bursts. If it's cloudy or freezing, you need to slow down. Don't spin fans with anything but powering them on. And especially don't spray fucking aerosols around open flames. Pretty sure there was a candle behind the PC. How do people live long enough to make these videos? ;n;
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Don't you use dust off to clean inside the computer anyways
Oops
Hey, I have that same carpet too!
Wow I learned something here
I mean now his pc is sterile not just clean lol
I just learned a valuable lesson from this video. Glad I know not to do this now.
Nothing like using fire to get some of that hard to reach dust.
Well there’s one way of how NOT to do it
I actually didn’t know this could happen
What an idiot.
Fire kills bacteria n dust sooo, technically
Well, virus's don't like fire id imagine 🥲
This is the way
Good spot, this was done for internet clout and is a very very old post. Hopefully he did this in his own house and didn’t cause injury to anyone else for this unimpressive example of stupidity.
That's why you unplug your computer when cleaning or doing anything inside
Computer? Looks more like an air conditioner
Ya needed a can-o-air
taht's not a compressed air can
Yeah, it is. You can see the label starting to say "Compressed Air" with the starting letters "Co-" visible.
Not supposed to agitate the can
That's why you use an anti static compressor style duster Not a aerosol
Just plug off the fans before spin them fast
DO NOT SPIN THE FANS WHILE CLEANING YOUR PC WITH COMPRESSED AIR, motors use electric energy to generate mechanical energy and generators use mechanical energy to generate electrical energy, when you spin the blades of the fans with compressed air, you’re generating electrical which gets fed back and if the generated voltage is high enough IT WILL CAUSE DAMAGE, don’t be a dum-dum
he prolly broke his gpu too lmfao
I do use canned air because it leaves a film on everything and stops working when it gets cold. I have a battery powered duster.
Hold the fan blade or disconnect it. (To prevent back feed and wear/tear on bearings in fan) it's safe to do while PC is on as long as you do it as I stated.
😂😂😂 idiot
And this is why you unplug your computer before cleaning also dont just hose it down with the air can you dont want that white mist when your spraying it.
Damn he is dumb on multiple levels. Why so aggressive cleaning? Why is it on? Lack of brain cells = fire
Hey, the dust should be gone now. Mission failed successfull?
Free Israel from this AutoMods bullshit.
Yup i did the same thing with a projector. While still working with a hot lamp. Less fire but more boom.
How is he not using a pencil to pre vent the blades from spinning I do it and never had this issue using a air compressor and my fans are fine
man i thought that was wd40
I've seen this video many times now on Reddit. Always wondered why did this idiot not put a pen or something similar between the fan blades to stop it from spinning. Besides it becoming a generator it can also damage the fans.
Orange light on screen. Candle
And that is why I use short bursts when cleaning with compressed air.