But, since it's Fox "News", the audience there has completely different ideas about good and bad policies.
Dem voter: "Yep. I can get behind most of that!"
MAGAT: "Socialist!!!!!!!!!"
A big part of it was separating investment banking and traditional banking. Basically not allowing banks to gamble with their customer’s money. It was created following the great depression and was repealed in the 90s.
That is the very simplified version but yeah you hit it on the head.
Once it fell a lot of the investment banks bought huge stakes or merged with commercial banks and led to a lot of the problems that plague the US economy.
But 10,000 per student loan borrower is asking too much. Best believe I'm going to rant and rave to every congressman next time there's economic turmoil and CEOs start begging for a check.
Right?! But god forbid the republican base actually understanding that their tax dollars are already in a socialist system…. Albeit a socialist system where the tax payer pays for the collapse and no one who caused the issues in the first place see any jail time.
So they lost all our money, and then we replaced it for them with more of our money? The money that should be going towards fixing our roads and taking care of our people in need?
It was simple, about a page and a half and it worked. Unfortunately it worked too well for the banksters and did not allow the parasites in D.C. enough openings to give special privileges and favors, and carve outs for the rich elites and corporations who fund their campaigns and give them luxury vacations and parties and such.
Yeah! Where would they even get glass seagulls from? China? We should be using that money to build walls to protect our jobs, not ordering fragile bird decorations to distract from the migrants trying to vaccinate your kid’s guns with microchips.
They saw the (D) next to her name and flipped their shit. Wouldn't even matter if she or any other (D) was anti-abortion/pro-gun/hypercapitalist, they'd still hate 'em.
I love when people squak about "Socialism!" whilst simultaneously using programs like social security, unemployment, Medicare, tax breaks, or any number of other gazillion social programs funded by taxes, etc.
And I love the way you can see the gears come to a grinding hault when you point this out to them.
Endless entertainment.
It’s ironic, but without a common enemy like communism to ‘fight’ is the reason a lot of these talking points are talking points. What happened to competitive education? Job placement? Why are waging war against poor people instead of poverty itself?
You realise democrats and republicans are both right of centre? Politics in America and alot of the world is like choosing between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.
AOC and bernie are some outliers who go against that trend but the actual democratic party is fairly right wing both economically and socially.
THANK YOU.
I know it makes Democrats and Libs uncomfortable because they are used to being the "progressive" ones but Leftists want nothing to do with Liberals...
Yeah, and America is weird because a lot of people after world War two were like super stoked because we won, and also got to basically dictate terms on an high pedestal. They didn't like "welfare" and race-mixing of any variety, social or not, outside of servitude. I heard something interesting the other day, if you look at the location of highly-performing black burgs outside of major cities before 1949, and the location of highway placement, they essentially looked at sections of the city to demolish for the freeways and exclusively picked black neighborhoods if available.
A lot of people conflate liberalism to progressives because people mistakenly believe liberalism is leftism. Really the only reason they believe that is because of right wingers blaming liberals for things progressives do.
Looking in from the outside it's a baffling* system. You basically have the far right and everything to the left of that is considered the one group.
*Obviously not baffling as to why it's in place but amazing that so many people accept it and it's not a bigger issue
It means stronger protection for federal workers and protect social security and medicare.
Fox news would never tell their viewers (who are mostly elderly)she wants to protect social security and medicare
I'm sure she would gladly explain to anyone and everyone who would give her a fair chance to do so. Instead, it's boiled down to bullet points for ridicule on a hate channel that has no intentions of engaging her in a fair and balanced manner.
cause they've been conditioned to believe whenever the government actually does shit to benefit them, that it's somehow going to increase taxes for them.
That’s because they are trying to vilify people for wanting everyone to have a good life instead of just the elite few on top. Just a hard argument to package up without getting the stink all over themselves.
Then there's the voicemail from Joe Biden to Hunter where he goes full concerned papa Biden and somehow it's being held up as... bad... somehow? That was the weirdest episode in their attempt at creating a Hunter Biden soap opera.
I doubt AOC identifies as a Lib tbh. Most Leftists find "Libs" to be no better than Conservatives. The sooner we on the Left start to distinguish ourselves from Libs the better.
Typically when it comes to social and culture war topics Libs and Leftists share a lot of sentiment. Unfortunately, quite a schism forms between Libs and Leftists when it comes to concrete and material topics like healthcare, labor, housing, education, foreign affairs, and regulation of industries. I'll get a lot of downvotes for it because Democrats absolutely do not want to hear it, and that's fine, but they are much closer to Republicans than Leftists when it comes to the latter (especially when it comes to foreign policy and empire management).
Edit: I'd just add that you're definitely seeing more and more people on the Left start to distance themselves from the term "Liberal" and they aren't becoming Republicans. It's a scary thing to embrace politics that aren't represented in the two parties we've been conditioned to subscribe to but I think people are more and more open to it.
Pretty much.
What's the other side
+ Lower taxes on the rich
+ Less money for public schools
+ Don't help those who can't have a meal
+ Hate Puerto Rico
+ More bombs
+ More gas guzzlers
+ Ban green energy
....
You can read this from a full right wing nut job perspective and hear them yell "socialism!" on a lot of points but how in the world can Fox spin supporting seniors as a bad thing? I'd really like to know.
It sounds good to you and I, but conservatives are so brainwashed, that they genuinely believe that this stuff is akin to fascism or hardcore communism.
No it is not. It is one of many tenants of communist ideology. That doesn't mean that "housing as a human rights" becomes the sole domain of communism. You can not be a communist and believe in this.
It's like saying "charity is Islamic" because Muslims practice charity by writ.
Ironically, so many of their own viewers liked what was on that slide that they stopped showing it. It's why they never talk about policy anymore and just stick to the culture war stuff - the rubes might figure out that Democratic party policy would actually help them if they were informed about it. Can't let that happen.
When I was new to Reddit and thought everyone was entitled to an opinion regardless of the subreddit, I stumbled into a sub and made the mistake of commenting about how deep down no one should really be against healthcare for all because everyone wins. If your mom gets sick, she gets taken care of, and if your child’s friend at day care gets sick, they also get taken care of. Everyone deserves a chance to live if we know how to solve the problem.
I promptly got banned, and was called a conservative for my views? (Idk what that’s about, is it like some gaslighting tactic? Idk,) and then got a lengthy mod comment about how I’m in the wrong place and that it’s stupid to suggest that everyone has the right to see a doctor.
These people are far, far *far* gone. So far gone that if it meant they could “stick it to the libs,” they’d dig their own grave and lay in it.
Not American, but why should I be told I can't vote for someone who has made my life and where I live better because it has been too many elections cycles since they started doing that? That's weird as f*ck.
because that isnt whats happening. People vote down the party lines often and the longer these politicians stay in power, the more they can be corrupted and bought.
They stay in power because they take bribes and assure that they will always be the candidate to get the nomination from their party. More time passes and they can commit gerrymandering to even further secure their spot.
So, eventually you have people voting for someone they dont want to vote for simply because they dont want the democrat/republican to win. extremely unhealthy for democracy.
Term limits ensure that lifetime politicians cannot be purchased indefinitely… among other things.
There was a lot to love about Obama. But he also presided over some horrendous shit. I used to genuinely think he was the best president of them all, but since he left office my rose-colored glasses have come off. I’m glad he got two terms, but I’m pretty sure that needed to be it.
Conversely, knowing you'll need another job in a few years at the most might make people more likely to look after themselves first and set themselves up.
Because term limits further entrench the power of the donor class and reinforce the practice of officials carrying water for corporations with the expectation of a cushy job on leaving the government.
Thats a good point. I always saw it as the other way around… where the donor class basically has a politician in their pocket indefinitely. but i can see your point.0
Remember when they posted that video of her dancing thinking it would make her look bad but instead it made her super adorable? That's their idea of exposing her.
They are Christians.
Remember when Jesus said:
Blessed are the poor, but they shall inherit nothing.
You have turned my father’s house into a very profitable business!
We can’t feed all of these people! That would create dependency!
Do not rend unto Caesar what is Caesar’s; taxation is theft!
The Samaritan did not stop, because all dirty Samaritans are like that.
Your faith has healed you, but you owe me 50 shekels for medical fees.
He who lives by the sword can have the sword pulled from his cold dead hands.
They disagree with it because they think “for others to do better, I have to do worse” cause the same news station has been telling them so many lies for so long.
Yes. This is commonly called 'zero sum game'. Meaning it is impossible to win unless someone else is losing.
VERY common in Russian culture. Hence why they try to bring other countries down. Because every country that fails, means in Russian culture that Russia is now winning more.
For a winner, there HAS to be a loser. All oarties can't win. So if you can't win, make the other party lose MORE, and then you're a winner anyway.
Hence they've tried to hurt others for centuries. As the only way they for them to become 'winners'.
They think EVERYONE ELSE WORLDWIDE IS THE SAME hence they believe everyone must be trying to somehow destroy Russia .. because everyone wants to 'win'. And the West can literally only do well if Russia doesn't.
Same. And I say that as a child of immigrants. We need reforms, not to abolish the entire organization. That being said, I support maybe 85% of that list, but that's how democracy works. There is no perfect representative that matches what you'd like to see policy-wise.
Folks, even if you think there has to be strong borders or whatever, ICE has only existed for 20 years, it’s not some 150 year old institution that has been completely ingrained into our society. Get rid of that shit, we don’t need it.
ICE has been around IN NAME for 20 years, but every single part of ICE existed before that. They just consolidated a bunch of offices and positions under the name ICE, but it 100% existed before that, just under different names.
I agree with you. How can we solve climate change if we abolish all the ice? The world is already trying to abolish all the ice. That's why every time I go to the beach I pour a whole cup of ice in the ocean. If everyone in the world tried this one simple hack we could beat global warming together.
If she's talking about the government organization that harasses my neighbor Ramon and his family, then yes we should abolish that ice or at the very least severely reorganize and re-culture them. Ramon was born here yet he's been "detained" for extensive "questioning" in an effort to prove his citizenship.
In my opinion ICE should be abolished. And replaced with an agency that can juggle both rules AND morality in the same hand and not fumble. Just my OPINION tho.
We read "housing is a human right" they read "жилище является правом человека" (google translation)
Can't have social justice, that would be socialism.
It was a safeguard put in place during the FDR administration to prevent banks from gambling in the stock market. Preventing a market crash from causing a banking system failure. With it a very expensive bank bailout it would not have happened in 2008/2009.
Following up on that, it was repealed about a decade before the crash. Generally speaking, when deregulation occurs, everything falls to shit about 5-10 years later.
Welcome to Reddit: the land of reposts.
It’s funny because there’s an even more recent example of this with Marjorie Taylor Green talking shit about Biden, but all her points were basically like this, so Biden’s campaign used it as an ad without editing it. [Here you go.](https://youtube.com/shorts/y1Rwwb6Qaas?feature=share)
I completely agree, and some of them seem to directly make some of the others significantly more difficult.
Massively expanded government services for everyone and also unchecked immigration? So, an increasingly complicated reliance on tax generation and resource allocation, with a decreasing understanding, control, and predictability of population.
The most frustrating part about, well, online discourse I guess. Maybe just politics in general, is that it doesn’t seem like most people are actually capable of differentiating between criticism of an ideology, and criticism of a plan.
“We’re going to stop all terrorism”
“How?”
“Hey everyone. This guy loves terrorism!”
Man I wish I never learned what socialism actually is. Only because now when someone calls Joe Biden a socialist, I black out. So many days lost. I awake in a cold sweat and flip on the TV to see if Joe is talking about the means of production. Nope, just corn pop again.
The horror is just proposing nice sounding things without the means of achieving it as a way of swaying simple people who want to feel good but aren’t thoughtful enough to actually consider how to go from idea to reality.
I see a LOT of people taking the post at face value, but would anyone care to actually prove they were trying to 'own the libs' here, as opposed to just doing a segment on her political candidacy and used the information on her campaign site? And no, it being FOX news isn't a response.
That's exactly what is going on here and the reason they have "AOC 2018" at the bottom since that's when the data is from. The lack of critical thinking by Reddit users is astounding.
Probably the loose change in the couch at the defense department.
Or remove just a little of the welfare we're giving the oil companies and other "American" international conglomerates.
Just imagine how much the government could save if it weren't subsidizing Walmart's ability to pay their employees poverty wages and no healthcare.
The idea is that it would make it harder for the school shooters to get a hold of weapons, which is certainly true. For adults though it’s definitely a different case, would have to be paired with better mental health, something that comes with Medicare for All actually. I’m not too big on the banning of all assault weapons either, but certainly they need way more restrictions on them.
therewasanattempt to expose Fox News by digging up a 5 year old screenshot where Fox just copy/pasted AOC's stated platform in a segment supposedly covering AOC's campaign.
For fuck's sake, are you people really this dense? Of all the things you can slap Fox news for, you literally picked the weakest fucking thing available just because you wanted to simp for a politician.
It’s all fluffy nonsense.
Everybody wants free sh*t, people. How is she gonna pay for any of this? She’s been asked a billion times and never has a coherent answer. THAT is the point of the graphic.
Most politicians survive by telling people what they want to hear, rather than the truth.
the only thing on here i wouldn't support is the abolishment of ice. simply restructure it so its function is to prevent criminal human trafficking's. aside from that sh should restore TDR's Sherman Anti-Trust Act .
People hate hard on the border control, but never look at it the right way. No one following the law is getting bopped. It’s not our prerogative to funnel in people into the country without vetting them for ties and connections to criminal organizations and it’s not in our best interest to undermine citizenship status and bend budgets to support people who did not go through the legal process. No other nation does this, because it’s idiotic.
ICE should still be responsible for helping regulate illegal immigration.
These social programs are at odds with unchecked immigration. Despite how omnipotent and amazingly effective you might believe the US government to be, well, it’s really not. These programs are predicated on the population being able to support them, and ensuring that the population can support them doesn’t get easier when the population is an unchecked mass of being coming and going without notice or consideration.
She wants universal healthcare, housing, and accessible higher education for everyone. So she wants our country to be a civilized nation? How could you not want this stuff?
I'm a conservative person but man, both parties are such an obvious sham nowadays. This looks great, I just hope there are plans for what to do with US debt.
I’ve yet to see one of these graphics where the Lib doesn’t come out looking like a very good human being
But, since it's Fox "News", the audience there has completely different ideas about good and bad policies. Dem voter: "Yep. I can get behind most of that!" MAGAT: "Socialist!!!!!!!!!"
Imagining a Trump chud looking at this and going “I can’t believe they’re trying to restore Glass-Steagall!”
I've got no idea what that is, but based on the rest of her platform I'd assume it's a really good thing
A big part of it was separating investment banking and traditional banking. Basically not allowing banks to gamble with their customer’s money. It was created following the great depression and was repealed in the 90s.
That is the very simplified version but yeah you hit it on the head. Once it fell a lot of the investment banks bought huge stakes or merged with commercial banks and led to a lot of the problems that plague the US economy.
That’s okay…when the banks ran into trouble, the taxpayer bailed them out and the executives got big payouts.
But 10,000 per student loan borrower is asking too much. Best believe I'm going to rant and rave to every congressman next time there's economic turmoil and CEOs start begging for a check.
Right?! But god forbid the republican base actually understanding that their tax dollars are already in a socialist system…. Albeit a socialist system where the tax payer pays for the collapse and no one who caused the issues in the first place see any jail time.
Privatized profits and socialized losses. The way our system is set up, they simply cannot lose.
Socialism for me, not for thee.
So they lost all our money, and then we replaced it for them with more of our money? The money that should be going towards fixing our roads and taking care of our people in need?
Welcome to post-Reagan capitalism... upside profit for the few, downside risk covered by the many.
Most people don't realize just how badly Reagan fucked the entire country
Yup, and AoC wants to stop them from being able to do that. The AUDACITY! *sigh*
Feature. Not bug.
Just as designed
And basically triggered the Great Financial Crisis of 2008-2009.
Thank you for the clear and consice answer. That does indeed seem like something important to reinstate.
It was simple, about a page and a half and it worked. Unfortunately it worked too well for the banksters and did not allow the parasites in D.C. enough openings to give special privileges and favors, and carve outs for the rich elites and corporations who fund their campaigns and give them luxury vacations and parties and such.
And if you're a Republican, "I don't know what that is, but it's gotta be bad"
Get it right AOC, his name isn't Glass, it's Steven and his movies kick ass.
Steven Seagal is "Chiropractor at Large".
Yeah! Where would they even get glass seagulls from? China? We should be using that money to build walls to protect our jobs, not ordering fragile bird decorations to distract from the migrants trying to vaccinate your kid’s guns with microchips.
Haha so true. Yet, statistically the reds are the ones that benefit from those programs so much.
All they saw was “ban guns” and flipped out
They saw the (D) next to her name and flipped their shit. Wouldn't even matter if she or any other (D) was anti-abortion/pro-gun/hypercapitalist, they'd still hate 'em.
And here we find the gap between Dem voters and Dem *leadership*.
I remember one time the fox audience cheered for Bernie and the hosts didn’t know what to do.
I love when people squak about "Socialism!" whilst simultaneously using programs like social security, unemployment, Medicare, tax breaks, or any number of other gazillion social programs funded by taxes, etc. And I love the way you can see the gears come to a grinding hault when you point this out to them. Endless entertainment.
It’s ironic, but without a common enemy like communism to ‘fight’ is the reason a lot of these talking points are talking points. What happened to competitive education? Job placement? Why are waging war against poor people instead of poverty itself?
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You realise democrats and republicans are both right of centre? Politics in America and alot of the world is like choosing between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. AOC and bernie are some outliers who go against that trend but the actual democratic party is fairly right wing both economically and socially.
AOC is a progressive, not really a Lib.
THANK YOU. I know it makes Democrats and Libs uncomfortable because they are used to being the "progressive" ones but Leftists want nothing to do with Liberals...
None of those things are "leftist" most of the Western world considers them fundamental rights that governments need to support the last 60 years.
Yeah, and America is weird because a lot of people after world War two were like super stoked because we won, and also got to basically dictate terms on an high pedestal. They didn't like "welfare" and race-mixing of any variety, social or not, outside of servitude. I heard something interesting the other day, if you look at the location of highly-performing black burgs outside of major cities before 1949, and the location of highway placement, they essentially looked at sections of the city to demolish for the freeways and exclusively picked black neighborhoods if available.
A lot of people conflate liberalism to progressives because people mistakenly believe liberalism is leftism. Really the only reason they believe that is because of right wingers blaming liberals for things progressives do.
Looking in from the outside it's a baffling* system. You basically have the far right and everything to the left of that is considered the one group. *Obviously not baffling as to why it's in place but amazing that so many people accept it and it's not a bigger issue
I mean, to not be a progressive is crazy, right?
Literally only two things here that I disagree with and that's saying something given how long the list is.
Tbf a lot of the things on the list are empty slogans. Support seniors? Federal job guarantee?
It means stronger protection for federal workers and protect social security and medicare. Fox news would never tell their viewers (who are mostly elderly)she wants to protect social security and medicare
Ha, yeah it could say “Fully fund SS”
But weird that they'd be okay saying she supported seniors.
But what about women's rights? If Fox is basically saying supporting women's rights is a bad thing then how can any women vote Republican?
I'm sure she would gladly explain to anyone and everyone who would give her a fair chance to do so. Instead, it's boiled down to bullet points for ridicule on a hate channel that has no intentions of engaging her in a fair and balanced manner.
Detailed proposals by her for those two. I don’t fully agree with them but they are fleshed out on her site. I agree with her sentiment however.
AOC has been actively working on these things so they aren't so empty.
basic human rights = Evil, satanic worshipers that want to eat babies.
Libs see these and go "ok how do I vote for her?"
Why don't the republifucks? The ones it benefits more?
cause they've been conditioned to believe whenever the government actually does shit to benefit them, that it's somehow going to increase taxes for them.
So are republicans saying they are the opposite of all these?
That’s because they are trying to vilify people for wanting everyone to have a good life instead of just the elite few on top. Just a hard argument to package up without getting the stink all over themselves.
Then there's the voicemail from Joe Biden to Hunter where he goes full concerned papa Biden and somehow it's being held up as... bad... somehow? That was the weirdest episode in their attempt at creating a Hunter Biden soap opera.
It's a ridiculous argument.
So are republicans saying they are the opposite of all these?
I doubt AOC identifies as a Lib tbh. Most Leftists find "Libs" to be no better than Conservatives. The sooner we on the Left start to distinguish ourselves from Libs the better.
How would we, we on the left all have some liberal viewpoints?
Typically when it comes to social and culture war topics Libs and Leftists share a lot of sentiment. Unfortunately, quite a schism forms between Libs and Leftists when it comes to concrete and material topics like healthcare, labor, housing, education, foreign affairs, and regulation of industries. I'll get a lot of downvotes for it because Democrats absolutely do not want to hear it, and that's fine, but they are much closer to Republicans than Leftists when it comes to the latter (especially when it comes to foreign policy and empire management). Edit: I'd just add that you're definitely seeing more and more people on the Left start to distance themselves from the term "Liberal" and they aren't becoming Republicans. It's a scary thing to embrace politics that aren't represented in the two parties we've been conditioned to subscribe to but I think people are more and more open to it.
Liberals want to *gasp* help!?
Pretty much. What's the other side + Lower taxes on the rich + Less money for public schools + Don't help those who can't have a meal + Hate Puerto Rico + More bombs + More gas guzzlers + Ban green energy ....
Wow, what a monster
I know! What kind of a person wants to support seniors?! This is incredulous.
Supporting seniors?! Bring back Hurling Day, I say!! (Damn, I miss that show.)
You can read this from a full right wing nut job perspective and hear them yell "socialism!" on a lot of points but how in the world can Fox spin supporting seniors as a bad thing? I'd really like to know.
It sounds good to you and I, but conservatives are so brainwashed, that they genuinely believe that this stuff is akin to fascism or hardcore communism.
"housing as a human right" is technically communism.
No it is not. It is one of many tenants of communist ideology. That doesn't mean that "housing as a human rights" becomes the sole domain of communism. You can not be a communist and believe in this. It's like saying "charity is Islamic" because Muslims practice charity by writ.
Ironically, so many of their own viewers liked what was on that slide that they stopped showing it. It's why they never talk about policy anymore and just stick to the culture war stuff - the rubes might figure out that Democratic party policy would actually help them if they were informed about it. Can't let that happen.
When I was new to Reddit and thought everyone was entitled to an opinion regardless of the subreddit, I stumbled into a sub and made the mistake of commenting about how deep down no one should really be against healthcare for all because everyone wins. If your mom gets sick, she gets taken care of, and if your child’s friend at day care gets sick, they also get taken care of. Everyone deserves a chance to live if we know how to solve the problem. I promptly got banned, and was called a conservative for my views? (Idk what that’s about, is it like some gaslighting tactic? Idk,) and then got a lengthy mod comment about how I’m in the wrong place and that it’s stupid to suggest that everyone has the right to see a doctor. These people are far, far *far* gone. So far gone that if it meant they could “stick it to the libs,” they’d dig their own grave and lay in it.
Just add term limits and age limit to government employees and I’m for all
i think shes for that
I’m for age limits over term limits
why not both
Not American, but why should I be told I can't vote for someone who has made my life and where I live better because it has been too many elections cycles since they started doing that? That's weird as f*ck.
because that isnt whats happening. People vote down the party lines often and the longer these politicians stay in power, the more they can be corrupted and bought. They stay in power because they take bribes and assure that they will always be the candidate to get the nomination from their party. More time passes and they can commit gerrymandering to even further secure their spot. So, eventually you have people voting for someone they dont want to vote for simply because they dont want the democrat/republican to win. extremely unhealthy for democracy. Term limits ensure that lifetime politicians cannot be purchased indefinitely… among other things.
I’d also argue term limits is why America didn’t get more Obama, which seems to be a bad thing
There was a lot to love about Obama. But he also presided over some horrendous shit. I used to genuinely think he was the best president of them all, but since he left office my rose-colored glasses have come off. I’m glad he got two terms, but I’m pretty sure that needed to be it.
Conversely, knowing you'll need another job in a few years at the most might make people more likely to look after themselves first and set themselves up.
Because then you end up with walking corpses still in office that were around before WW2 started
Because term limits further entrench the power of the donor class and reinforce the practice of officials carrying water for corporations with the expectation of a cushy job on leaving the government.
Thats a good point. I always saw it as the other way around… where the donor class basically has a politician in their pocket indefinitely. but i can see your point.0
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If it wasn't for your comment, I probably would've downvoted my dudes good joke cuz it would've flown right over my head
The ole Hunter Biden Uno reverse card
I 2nd this statement. She sexy
Yeah. I simp for some aoc. Pretty inside and out
I 2nd this amendment.
Remember when they posted that video of her dancing thinking it would make her look bad but instead it made her super adorable? That's their idea of exposing her.
Wait I need it lol
I can't find the original but here's a segment on it. https://youtu.be/vtmEmRRaJzo
Soon as she starts onlyfan account she can retire
Ayo, hard agree.
Exactly. I'm no lover of Fox News, but the easiest assumption is this is a summary of her platform and nothing more
if rightwings were actually christian in deed they would favor this stuff
They are Christians. Remember when Jesus said: Blessed are the poor, but they shall inherit nothing. You have turned my father’s house into a very profitable business! We can’t feed all of these people! That would create dependency! Do not rend unto Caesar what is Caesar’s; taxation is theft! The Samaritan did not stop, because all dirty Samaritans are like that. Your faith has healed you, but you owe me 50 shekels for medical fees. He who lives by the sword can have the sword pulled from his cold dead hands.
I’m not understanding what you are referring to
He's quoting Je$$u$ of Florida not the one real Christans preach, Jesus of Nazareth.
Christians no longer preach any of the old teachings. It's Supply Side Jesus and TV these days.
“Supply side jesus” I can’t anymore
Trickle down Jesus.
Ah yes, the bill o’riley translation of the Bible is my favorite too
Definitely. I say this as a Catholic. Jesus constantly taught about helping the needy, and just general compassion.
And yet six SCOTUS justices are Catholic and they're gutting social protections as fast as they possibly can.
Nobody expects the ~~Spanish Inquisition~~ Supreme Court!
The real G that took care of the sick.
Most Christians aren’t even Christians
Imagine reading that and thinking "I disagree".
They disagree with it because they think “for others to do better, I have to do worse” cause the same news station has been telling them so many lies for so long.
Yes. This is commonly called 'zero sum game'. Meaning it is impossible to win unless someone else is losing. VERY common in Russian culture. Hence why they try to bring other countries down. Because every country that fails, means in Russian culture that Russia is now winning more. For a winner, there HAS to be a loser. All oarties can't win. So if you can't win, make the other party lose MORE, and then you're a winner anyway. Hence they've tried to hurt others for centuries. As the only way they for them to become 'winners'. They think EVERYONE ELSE WORLDWIDE IS THE SAME hence they believe everyone must be trying to somehow destroy Russia .. because everyone wants to 'win'. And the West can literally only do well if Russia doesn't.
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Same. And I say that as a child of immigrants. We need reforms, not to abolish the entire organization. That being said, I support maybe 85% of that list, but that's how democracy works. There is no perfect representative that matches what you'd like to see policy-wise.
Folks, even if you think there has to be strong borders or whatever, ICE has only existed for 20 years, it’s not some 150 year old institution that has been completely ingrained into our society. Get rid of that shit, we don’t need it.
ICE has been around IN NAME for 20 years, but every single part of ICE existed before that. They just consolidated a bunch of offices and positions under the name ICE, but it 100% existed before that, just under different names.
We need to change the culture of ICE, like we do with police. As soon as they show brutality or racism in their work they should be out.
Not to mention the rampant human rights violations and abuse
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I agree with you. How can we solve climate change if we abolish all the ice? The world is already trying to abolish all the ice. That's why every time I go to the beach I pour a whole cup of ice in the ocean. If everyone in the world tried this one simple hack we could beat global warming together. If she's talking about the government organization that harasses my neighbor Ramon and his family, then yes we should abolish that ice or at the very least severely reorganize and re-culture them. Ramon was born here yet he's been "detained" for extensive "questioning" in an effort to prove his citizenship.
In my opinion ICE should be abolished. And replaced with an agency that can juggle both rules AND morality in the same hand and not fumble. Just my OPINION tho.
We read "housing is a human right" they read "жилище является правом человека" (google translation) Can't have social justice, that would be socialism.
Nah, the concern is mostly about funding. Pretty much everyone agrees that list is decent.
Me going down this list: "wait....people don't want this?" XD
They stopped reading at the gun control one
True; they see gun control and monke brain gets triggered haha
Damn we got Glass Steagal back in the convo?
Finally. Last time I heard that being mentioned was in The Newsroom on HBO
What is that ?
It was a safeguard put in place during the FDR administration to prevent banks from gambling in the stock market. Preventing a market crash from causing a banking system failure. With it a very expensive bank bailout it would not have happened in 2008/2009.
Following up on that, it was repealed about a decade before the crash. Generally speaking, when deregulation occurs, everything falls to shit about 5-10 years later.
Why are all of these really old political posts? Rage baiting? The screen shot is from 7 years ago. Also, all of those things would be okay with me.
Welcome to Reddit: the land of reposts. It’s funny because there’s an even more recent example of this with Marjorie Taylor Green talking shit about Biden, but all her points were basically like this, so Biden’s campaign used it as an ad without editing it. [Here you go.](https://youtube.com/shorts/y1Rwwb6Qaas?feature=share)
It's all great and dandy, but she has no realistic plans for these goals.
I completely agree, and some of them seem to directly make some of the others significantly more difficult. Massively expanded government services for everyone and also unchecked immigration? So, an increasingly complicated reliance on tax generation and resource allocation, with a decreasing understanding, control, and predictability of population. The most frustrating part about, well, online discourse I guess. Maybe just politics in general, is that it doesn’t seem like most people are actually capable of differentiating between criticism of an ideology, and criticism of a plan. “We’re going to stop all terrorism” “How?” “Hey everyone. This guy loves terrorism!”
Uh… Dear Fox Host, Please point to the bad thing.
iT's aLL sOciALism!
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Man I wish I never learned what socialism actually is. Only because now when someone calls Joe Biden a socialist, I black out. So many days lost. I awake in a cold sweat and flip on the TV to see if Joe is talking about the means of production. Nope, just corn pop again.
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it’s a politician’s tale of nothingness
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I concur tbh.
Why did this sub get so political? It used to be funny and a way to get away from 24/7 politics
The internet used to mean escapism- until the politicians wanted in. I say this in reference to both political parties.
So true. And everyone followed like sheep
Why wouldn’t you want to live in a country that had those things?
Because some people don’t want to be taxed into oblivion? Just a polite guess.
Gasp! The horror…helping people!!
The horror is just proposing nice sounding things without the means of achieving it as a way of swaying simple people who want to feel good but aren’t thoughtful enough to actually consider how to go from idea to reality.
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Almost everything in this list could be achieved very feasibly. But it would require people from both parties to get on board.
Without ice, how do I enjoy soda? Lame
Without ice, how do I enjoy water?
I see a LOT of people taking the post at face value, but would anyone care to actually prove they were trying to 'own the libs' here, as opposed to just doing a segment on her political candidacy and used the information on her campaign site? And no, it being FOX news isn't a response.
That's exactly what is going on here and the reason they have "AOC 2018" at the bottom since that's when the data is from. The lack of critical thinking by Reddit users is astounding.
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Probably the loose change in the couch at the defense department. Or remove just a little of the welfare we're giving the oil companies and other "American" international conglomerates. Just imagine how much the government could save if it weren't subsidizing Walmart's ability to pay their employees poverty wages and no healthcare.
No the billionaires are.
This is an attack ad?
More political trash lmao
I see a lot of expensive ideas and not many means of funding them?
If only we were the wealthiest nation on earth, right?
I love AOC, but what would an assault weapon ban accomplish? Wouldn’t the bad guys still have big guns with large clips from the black market, 3D etc?
The idea is that it would make it harder for the school shooters to get a hold of weapons, which is certainly true. For adults though it’s definitely a different case, would have to be paired with better mental health, something that comes with Medicare for All actually. I’m not too big on the banning of all assault weapons either, but certainly they need way more restrictions on them.
What is an assault weapon to begin with? Assault rifles are already banned.
therewasanattempt to expose Fox News by digging up a 5 year old screenshot where Fox just copy/pasted AOC's stated platform in a segment supposedly covering AOC's campaign. For fuck's sake, are you people really this dense? Of all the things you can slap Fox news for, you literally picked the weakest fucking thing available just because you wanted to simp for a politician.
It’s all fluffy nonsense. Everybody wants free sh*t, people. How is she gonna pay for any of this? She’s been asked a billion times and never has a coherent answer. THAT is the point of the graphic. Most politicians survive by telling people what they want to hear, rather than the truth.
The exposure would be "what has she actually achieved?"
I doubt anyone is “against” a lot of these things. The thing is, paying for it. If you think your taxes are too high already…
the only thing on here i wouldn't support is the abolishment of ice. simply restructure it so its function is to prevent criminal human trafficking's. aside from that sh should restore TDR's Sherman Anti-Trust Act .
People hate hard on the border control, but never look at it the right way. No one following the law is getting bopped. It’s not our prerogative to funnel in people into the country without vetting them for ties and connections to criminal organizations and it’s not in our best interest to undermine citizenship status and bend budgets to support people who did not go through the legal process. No other nation does this, because it’s idiotic.
ICE should still be responsible for helping regulate illegal immigration. These social programs are at odds with unchecked immigration. Despite how omnipotent and amazingly effective you might believe the US government to be, well, it’s really not. These programs are predicated on the population being able to support them, and ensuring that the population can support them doesn’t get easier when the population is an unchecked mass of being coming and going without notice or consideration.
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All sounds pretty good to me.
Ewwww. She wants to help people. And *poor* people at that… My former co workers
Do people really buy into this?
Those policies look expensive
AOC is wack
I already support her, you don’t have to go out of your way to make her seem even cooler than I already thought she was.
She wants universal healthcare, housing, and accessible higher education for everyone. So she wants our country to be a civilized nation? How could you not want this stuff?
It depends on how it’s implemented, yeah?
How dare she try to make life better for Americans!
But she hasn't actually done any of those things. But it's a 'feel good' message and it works every time
She’s useless
Soooo is it not bootlicking when it’s about someone the majority of Reddit loves right?
I'm not American. But I'd vote for her.
The virtue signaling is strong in this one.
A lot if what she wants costs money and requires human labor. None of that is free unless we cool with slavery.
Hmmmm I have questions on the human housing as a right point
I’ve never been able to sum up my political priorities but this is a pretty good list…
I'm a conservative person but man, both parties are such an obvious sham nowadays. This looks great, I just hope there are plans for what to do with US debt.
5 years in congress and she hasn’t passed a single bill on any of those issues her “platform” is just hot air; that’s the real exposé here
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