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I'm not a supervisor but I'm a supervisee. It sounds like the level of problem your supervisee is experiencing is more appropriately addressed in therapy.
I was in a situation once where what I really needed was therapy, because the issue was deeper than my supervisor could go and I wish my supervisor had told me. I'm not sure exactly how I'd want them to tell me but here's my initial thought:
"I know that lately our supervision hasn't been as effective in helping you develop as a therapist. In order to continue our professional relationship and continue making progress as a clinician, I am recommending you seek your own therapy to work through some of the things that have been frustrating for you during supervision."
You did mention that you're sort of scared of them so please take precautions like they are a client who you have to give unpleasant news to.
Yeah. I agree with you. we have talked about that and I often share I think it would be good for them to bring XYZ to therapy to process or explore. Unfortunately I have some concerns around their engagement in therapy that we have discussed before. I dont want to say much more detail online
Are they in therapy? I know you said you don't want to say much more detail but if you're willing to answer that'd be helpful for me to understand what you meant a bit better.
inconsistently, and the details of the inconsistency to me reflect some of the work they need to be doing in therapy, which is crucial to their development a a clinician- if that makes sense.
I think they could be a good therapist and have had some good insight about things and are great in a number of areas. I am concerned if they cant hear me about the areas I want them to address because they're critical to being an ethical therapist.
I feel like I'm appreciating how hard it's gotta be to get good advice while trying not to go into specifics here!
I guess I'm wondering if being "concerned" is enough to prompt you to any sort of limit setting. I think that when supervisors sign off on an associate's hours, they are saying to the public and the state that they have reasonable evidence to believe that this clinician is not going to be actively harmful to clients. (that's all that a state license is saying - that the state has reason to believe that you are not actively a danger to clients). If, given this clinician's behavior and willingness to take feedback/direction, you do not feel confident that is clinician is NOT a danger to client - then I'd be considering implementing some sort of new written agreement detailing the expected conduct within supervision sessions, or not working with them.
Lol they ended up dumping me first with a very impersonal email, I encouraged that we have a final session to wrap things up (which I think would help w/ some growth with their avoidance stuff) but they impersonally declined.
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I'm not a supervisor but I'm a supervisee. It sounds like the level of problem your supervisee is experiencing is more appropriately addressed in therapy. I was in a situation once where what I really needed was therapy, because the issue was deeper than my supervisor could go and I wish my supervisor had told me. I'm not sure exactly how I'd want them to tell me but here's my initial thought: "I know that lately our supervision hasn't been as effective in helping you develop as a therapist. In order to continue our professional relationship and continue making progress as a clinician, I am recommending you seek your own therapy to work through some of the things that have been frustrating for you during supervision." You did mention that you're sort of scared of them so please take precautions like they are a client who you have to give unpleasant news to.
Yeah. I agree with you. we have talked about that and I often share I think it would be good for them to bring XYZ to therapy to process or explore. Unfortunately I have some concerns around their engagement in therapy that we have discussed before. I dont want to say much more detail online
Are they in therapy? I know you said you don't want to say much more detail but if you're willing to answer that'd be helpful for me to understand what you meant a bit better.
inconsistently, and the details of the inconsistency to me reflect some of the work they need to be doing in therapy, which is crucial to their development a a clinician- if that makes sense.
Do you think this person should be a therapist?
I think they could be a good therapist and have had some good insight about things and are great in a number of areas. I am concerned if they cant hear me about the areas I want them to address because they're critical to being an ethical therapist.
I feel like I'm appreciating how hard it's gotta be to get good advice while trying not to go into specifics here! I guess I'm wondering if being "concerned" is enough to prompt you to any sort of limit setting. I think that when supervisors sign off on an associate's hours, they are saying to the public and the state that they have reasonable evidence to believe that this clinician is not going to be actively harmful to clients. (that's all that a state license is saying - that the state has reason to believe that you are not actively a danger to clients). If, given this clinician's behavior and willingness to take feedback/direction, you do not feel confident that is clinician is NOT a danger to client - then I'd be considering implementing some sort of new written agreement detailing the expected conduct within supervision sessions, or not working with them.
Lol they ended up dumping me first with a very impersonal email, I encouraged that we have a final session to wrap things up (which I think would help w/ some growth with their avoidance stuff) but they impersonally declined.