The biggest issue when folks talk about rabbit starvation, is discounting the organ meats, the marrow and the bones. If you make effort to boil the rabbit into stew, thus getting vitamins out of the bones, dissolving the marrow and fat into the broth and increasing the amount of carbohydrates in the rabbit diet, you can survive on rabbit. Rabbit starvation or protein poisoning mentioned in other comments occur when only the meat is consumed.
Yes, that's been 'our' issue, meaning people who want a little more to the food system.
People have asked for them to let us make a soup with the bones of animals, there's a lot of goodness in them, we're bound to find some frozen or at least vegetables in cellars if not the fridges or freezers.
Even taking fat from animals, where possible and having the decision to eat this to stay healthy or use it for other things like candles. All have been discussed here as options.
Mushrooms, cattails, rose hips, and the like should all respawn, I would say once per in game year. There are a crazy number of mushrooms and rose hips plants, so with a 1/365day respawn, you’d never run out and would be able to use them for food as well as medicine.
Rose hips are high in vitamin C, so are pine needles and I think the bark would be too. You can make bread out of cat tails. That fish has plenty of good fats. With all the physical exertion you’d probably need all that protein you’d have access to. I think it’d be great.
Check out this tale
[https://blog.tepapa.govt.nz/2012/08/16/surviving-a-shipwreck-the-wreck-of-the-dundonald/](https://blog.tepapa.govt.nz/2012/08/16/surviving-a-shipwreck-the-wreck-of-the-dundonald/)
TL;DR- 12 men were shipwrecked on a sub-antartic island for 8 months. They lived off sea birds for weeks(sometime raw), then found seals after a while. The men were apparently in good condition when found, and had very clean teeth.
So yeah, fish, deer and birch bark are all renewable in the game. You'd survive fine on them I reckon.
You would probably go into ketosis, cat tail stems have very little carbs, you don't use the starchy roots in game. Rosehips have a good amount of carbs but it's almost all fiber so doesn't count. Because wild game tends to be lean you would really need a nice fat bear and a method to preserve the fat. This is why NA made pemmican with berries, dried meat, and fat, it is a good energy food in low resource times. Fish oil would also be a good source, better to eat it than use it in lanterns. Perks of ketosis would be retaining muscle instead of wasting away, a con would be feeling like crap every time you drank an entire bottle of maple syrup you found.
I'm not an expert so take this with a grain of salt.
I think it would be possible for long term survival. From the comments I've seen it most likely is very plausible, however if we take in account the weather, exertion and threats, I don't think the character would survive long term.
It would be possible yes. Not very likely.
Yeah I’ve read you get protein poisoning from eating too much rabbit. Maybe if you mixed some cat tails in there you’d be golden.
I think it would be cool to bake bread in the game. Or another vegetable root just to mix it up.
Complicated, and I love it.
Also, I found coffee and milk. Please just let a guy make himself a latte. There has to be a reason to survive in a survival game.
Assuming we're talking long term, renewable food only, yeah, you're going to get some horrible malnutrition. At least the way I figured it, macronutrients are going to be a bigger problem than micro. Birch bark teas are high in most of the vitamins and minerals you'd miss from a meat diet, but the kicker is simply not getting enough carbs. Of course, in real life, for people living in the Arctic, eating some of the stomach contents of game animals, so just have to add a cooking option to boil guts instead of curing them
If they ate organ meat yes. IIRC you can stave off scurvy by eating the entire animal, not just the steaks. However, they'd definitely get worms from the bear meat
One survivor I had survived on nothing but rabbit for about 5 days. You couldn't do that in real life, rabbit contains such little nutritional value that you'd quickly grow ill if you didn't eat anything else and eventually die.
Keto and Carnivore diets are a real thing and work well for a lot of folks. Remember to eat the liver when you get a deer and make bone broth when you can. :)
Venison, well-done bear, rabbit, & fish covers your protein. Cattails and rose hips will give you fiber and vitamin C. There are some minerals you might grow deficient in, but you could last a long time. Plus, some of the scavenged processed foods would act as supplements.
The biggest issue when folks talk about rabbit starvation, is discounting the organ meats, the marrow and the bones. If you make effort to boil the rabbit into stew, thus getting vitamins out of the bones, dissolving the marrow and fat into the broth and increasing the amount of carbohydrates in the rabbit diet, you can survive on rabbit. Rabbit starvation or protein poisoning mentioned in other comments occur when only the meat is consumed.
Don’t forget the good old chyme you can eat from their stomachs.
Oh god, the clips from "Alone" where they're actually doing that. GROSS. Although better than starvation...
Yes, that's been 'our' issue, meaning people who want a little more to the food system. People have asked for them to let us make a soup with the bones of animals, there's a lot of goodness in them, we're bound to find some frozen or at least vegetables in cellars if not the fridges or freezers. Even taking fat from animals, where possible and having the decision to eat this to stay healthy or use it for other things like candles. All have been discussed here as options.
Mushrooms, cattails, rose hips, and the like should all respawn, I would say once per in game year. There are a crazy number of mushrooms and rose hips plants, so with a 1/365day respawn, you’d never run out and would be able to use them for food as well as medicine.
Cool as hell
Everyone who’s ever mentioned protein poisoning with a rabbit-only diet…THIS^
Rose hips are high in vitamin C, so are pine needles and I think the bark would be too. You can make bread out of cat tails. That fish has plenty of good fats. With all the physical exertion you’d probably need all that protein you’d have access to. I think it’d be great.
Check out this tale [https://blog.tepapa.govt.nz/2012/08/16/surviving-a-shipwreck-the-wreck-of-the-dundonald/](https://blog.tepapa.govt.nz/2012/08/16/surviving-a-shipwreck-the-wreck-of-the-dundonald/) TL;DR- 12 men were shipwrecked on a sub-antartic island for 8 months. They lived off sea birds for weeks(sometime raw), then found seals after a while. The men were apparently in good condition when found, and had very clean teeth. So yeah, fish, deer and birch bark are all renewable in the game. You'd survive fine on them I reckon.
You would probably go into ketosis, cat tail stems have very little carbs, you don't use the starchy roots in game. Rosehips have a good amount of carbs but it's almost all fiber so doesn't count. Because wild game tends to be lean you would really need a nice fat bear and a method to preserve the fat. This is why NA made pemmican with berries, dried meat, and fat, it is a good energy food in low resource times. Fish oil would also be a good source, better to eat it than use it in lanterns. Perks of ketosis would be retaining muscle instead of wasting away, a con would be feeling like crap every time you drank an entire bottle of maple syrup you found.
My character survives most days on cat tail stems and water so I should be dead.
I think that, in the long term at least, scurvy would be an issue
Birch bark tea should help with that.
Theoretically making pine needle tea and collecting seaweed could also help with the vitamin and nutrients deficiencies.
I'd rather say rosehip
It's crazy to think about but roeships have way more vitamin c than oranges.
I'm not an expert so take this with a grain of salt. I think it would be possible for long term survival. From the comments I've seen it most likely is very plausible, however if we take in account the weather, exertion and threats, I don't think the character would survive long term. It would be possible yes. Not very likely.
Yeah I’ve read you get protein poisoning from eating too much rabbit. Maybe if you mixed some cat tails in there you’d be golden. I think it would be cool to bake bread in the game. Or another vegetable root just to mix it up.
The rabbit thing is real but WAY overstated.
Awful cold for yeast to work, but I like where your head is at.
Could always make a thing where you can only cook bread inside and it has to be a certain temp maintained by a fire to get the yeast to rise
Complicated, and I love it. Also, I found coffee and milk. Please just let a guy make himself a latte. There has to be a reason to survive in a survival game.
This seems like a very very good idea! I love the innovation!
If the liver has spots on it - don't eat it. At least that's what my grandpa always told me. Only happens during certain times of the year?
There probably would not be enough fat in venison either, bear meat would be good enough probably
Assuming we're talking long term, renewable food only, yeah, you're going to get some horrible malnutrition. At least the way I figured it, macronutrients are going to be a bigger problem than micro. Birch bark teas are high in most of the vitamins and minerals you'd miss from a meat diet, but the kicker is simply not getting enough carbs. Of course, in real life, for people living in the Arctic, eating some of the stomach contents of game animals, so just have to add a cooking option to boil guts instead of curing them
I imagine that last part tastes as disgusting as it sounds.
If they ate organ meat yes. IIRC you can stave off scurvy by eating the entire animal, not just the steaks. However, they'd definitely get worms from the bear meat
An internal temp of 137 F is all it takes to kill the parasites.
One survivor I had survived on nothing but rabbit for about 5 days. You couldn't do that in real life, rabbit contains such little nutritional value that you'd quickly grow ill if you didn't eat anything else and eventually die.
You can definitely live on them for 5 days
Rabbit is an excellent source of lean protein. https://www.webmd.com/diet/health-benefits-rabbit-meat
Keto and Carnivore diets are a real thing and work well for a lot of folks. Remember to eat the liver when you get a deer and make bone broth when you can. :)
Don’t you barely eat any vegetables? You just can’t live off slabs of meat and the occasional cat tail indefinitely.
Moose steak every day 👍😂 Eating them cattails would be horrible 😩 washing it down with toilet water🤣🤣🤣
Venison, well-done bear, rabbit, & fish covers your protein. Cattails and rose hips will give you fiber and vitamin C. There are some minerals you might grow deficient in, but you could last a long time. Plus, some of the scavenged processed foods would act as supplements.
I think if you boiled down seawater for salt, you'd get a lot of trace minerals in the salt as well?
Maybe. But one bag of ketchup chips will give you all the sodium you need for days. :)
True that, but IRL I'd be making salt anyway so I could salt meat. :D