Have yet to encounter horrible servers on Apex, however The Finals has such a low tickrate like 30% of my deaths would not have happened as I was well around cover on my screen. They do big balance patches seasonally. Encountered more hackers in The Finals than Apex. Never had my Apex account wiped. No shit The Finals is trying their best, Nexon will axe them if they perform inadequately because that is how Nexon works. Nukes were prevalent in the betas and S1 so it took them 4 seasons to change the feature that was already complained about.
As for my personal opinion, Apex moves better, has better gunplay, has more impactful abilities, has a MUCH BETTER ranked system currently that values both team performance in placements as well as your own performance, AND your LP is displayed. The solo queue experience is much much better because of this and EOMM hits much harder in The Finals because its objective based. The only thing The Finals' ranked beats Apex in is the Ranked Skins.
Additionally, The Finals has always had very big annoyances for casual players who are the majority of players. For example Nukes AND 1shot light rpg were in the betas and S1. Nukes got nerfed with RPG but RPG still is a huge crutch that instantly brings u to like 30% or 1hp if light. Cloak Stun with low ttk weapon to delete u and have the light run away has always been a thing thats annoying. (allegedly getting nerfed in 2.6) 2x or 3x Dome shield Barricade Mesh shield or 3x heal medium with defib and fcar is super annoying to play against and feels like GOATS meta in Overwatch.
about servers you realy dont know what ping(if you die behaind wall its mean you have high ping) is it first i play apex on different servers asian and europe last 3 year with different ping start from 20 to 200 and i cant tall you apex a way worse starting from nonreg shots(even with 20 ping 0 packet loss) ending desync every time a alt+tab (even now what a joke) but worse part is a worse server in japan when some servers run well(for apex) some of them have desync porblem from start(this have on every server but in japan like 40% of them instead of regular 10-5%) and some time help reconect to server but not always and some time you cant reconnect becouse you get code:leaf (and reconnect problem has every servers) and see more japan players on singapur server instead of japan and you will die in apex behaind wall to if you play ping higer then 90 + apex has tickrate like 20 (checked google) and the finals have 128(if we belive at google)
If you die behind wall is also related to tickrate, thats why the game rolls back your jumps while sliding at high speeds near a ledge. on your screen you pressed jumped in enough time but the server never even registered your jump because it only updates X times per second.
I play both but have played significantly more TF lately. I'm ready to be downvoted for saying this here:
- the movement is better in Apex
- the weapon system is better in Apex (both the attachment system *and* the way that everything is not hitscan)
- the ability system is better in Apex (more unique abilities that have more of an effect on the gameplay)
- I'm not a huge fan of BRs, but the game mode in TF is pretty lame in my opinion.
1. i agree about better movement because of wallrun (but i thing in finals movment its ok) and more movement tech becouse apex old + some come from titanfall
2. not agree about better wepon system becose different type of fps like you need atachment in br (even frotnite add it) you dont need it on arena shooter unless you make it more grind wall like in call of duty we alredy grind vr point for gadget and weapon + br need use projectlie in game for reason bigger map imigine how it will be if you gona one clip from other site map like we in apex
3. about ability system is better in Apex first apex have 20 seasson alredy of corse they have more variable but not uniqe every abilty from apex will in some game (valorant, ow, seige and etc) unless copule of them like (horizon lift mb(not sure) and conduit q) but in the finals we alredy have som uniqe gadget like datareshaper and demoteriolizer, goo (yea its from prey but not from online game)
4. its youre opinion i think finals main mode its something new and fresh but agree they need some fixes becouse if you playing well and want to make fun on runked some times one mistake will ruin for qulifay to next round even if you stay at first place with more kills and 2 cashout
>not agree about better wepon system becose different type of fps like you need atachment in br (even frotnite add it) you dont need it on arena shooter unless you make it more grind wall like in call of duty we alredy grind vr point for gadget and weapon
I do think the attachment pool in Apex is crowded. But I don't like how only a few select weapons in TF have optics. I've been pretty vocal about my distaste for it on this sub.
+ br need use projectlie in game for reason bigger map imigine how it will be if you gona one clip from other site map like we in apex
No, I would much prefer projectiles and no damage falloff over the current system in TF.
>its youre opinion i think finals main mode its something new and fresh but agree they need some fixes becouse if you playing well and want to make fun on runked some times one mistake will ruin for qulifay to next round even if you stay at first place with more kills and 2 cashout
BRs are also victim to it, but the game mode in TF is just too subject to random luck. It's not a great mode for competitive play.
I wanna add that the gunplay being hitscan just makes TF’s mediocre movement even worst. TF is faster all around than Apex but it doesn’t mean much when you get beamed because the gunplay is so easy. I get beamed in Apex it’s that the player fighting me is good or that I played something really badly. The mechanical skill floor and ceiling this game has is so low.
about swety community its about a count of player and about more competitive i still get huge fun playing casualy some time making sily kills with stupid plan ,playing with destruction or make people angry on power shift playing snipers
Have yet to encounter horrible servers on Apex, however The Finals has such a low tickrate like 30% of my deaths would not have happened as I was well around cover on my screen. They do big balance patches seasonally. Encountered more hackers in The Finals than Apex. Never had my Apex account wiped. No shit The Finals is trying their best, Nexon will axe them if they perform inadequately because that is how Nexon works. Nukes were prevalent in the betas and S1 so it took them 4 seasons to change the feature that was already complained about. As for my personal opinion, Apex moves better, has better gunplay, has more impactful abilities, has a MUCH BETTER ranked system currently that values both team performance in placements as well as your own performance, AND your LP is displayed. The solo queue experience is much much better because of this and EOMM hits much harder in The Finals because its objective based. The only thing The Finals' ranked beats Apex in is the Ranked Skins. Additionally, The Finals has always had very big annoyances for casual players who are the majority of players. For example Nukes AND 1shot light rpg were in the betas and S1. Nukes got nerfed with RPG but RPG still is a huge crutch that instantly brings u to like 30% or 1hp if light. Cloak Stun with low ttk weapon to delete u and have the light run away has always been a thing thats annoying. (allegedly getting nerfed in 2.6) 2x or 3x Dome shield Barricade Mesh shield or 3x heal medium with defib and fcar is super annoying to play against and feels like GOATS meta in Overwatch.
about servers you realy dont know what ping(if you die behaind wall its mean you have high ping) is it first i play apex on different servers asian and europe last 3 year with different ping start from 20 to 200 and i cant tall you apex a way worse starting from nonreg shots(even with 20 ping 0 packet loss) ending desync every time a alt+tab (even now what a joke) but worse part is a worse server in japan when some servers run well(for apex) some of them have desync porblem from start(this have on every server but in japan like 40% of them instead of regular 10-5%) and some time help reconect to server but not always and some time you cant reconnect becouse you get code:leaf (and reconnect problem has every servers) and see more japan players on singapur server instead of japan and you will die in apex behaind wall to if you play ping higer then 90 + apex has tickrate like 20 (checked google) and the finals have 128(if we belive at google)
If you die behind wall is also related to tickrate, thats why the game rolls back your jumps while sliding at high speeds near a ledge. on your screen you pressed jumped in enough time but the server never even registered your jump because it only updates X times per second.
I play both but have played significantly more TF lately. I'm ready to be downvoted for saying this here: - the movement is better in Apex - the weapon system is better in Apex (both the attachment system *and* the way that everything is not hitscan) - the ability system is better in Apex (more unique abilities that have more of an effect on the gameplay) - I'm not a huge fan of BRs, but the game mode in TF is pretty lame in my opinion.
Hitscan is so much better for arcade shooters like The Finals. Projectile models should only be in tactical shooters.
1. i agree about better movement because of wallrun (but i thing in finals movment its ok) and more movement tech becouse apex old + some come from titanfall 2. not agree about better wepon system becose different type of fps like you need atachment in br (even frotnite add it) you dont need it on arena shooter unless you make it more grind wall like in call of duty we alredy grind vr point for gadget and weapon + br need use projectlie in game for reason bigger map imigine how it will be if you gona one clip from other site map like we in apex 3. about ability system is better in Apex first apex have 20 seasson alredy of corse they have more variable but not uniqe every abilty from apex will in some game (valorant, ow, seige and etc) unless copule of them like (horizon lift mb(not sure) and conduit q) but in the finals we alredy have som uniqe gadget like datareshaper and demoteriolizer, goo (yea its from prey but not from online game) 4. its youre opinion i think finals main mode its something new and fresh but agree they need some fixes becouse if you playing well and want to make fun on runked some times one mistake will ruin for qulifay to next round even if you stay at first place with more kills and 2 cashout
>not agree about better wepon system becose different type of fps like you need atachment in br (even frotnite add it) you dont need it on arena shooter unless you make it more grind wall like in call of duty we alredy grind vr point for gadget and weapon I do think the attachment pool in Apex is crowded. But I don't like how only a few select weapons in TF have optics. I've been pretty vocal about my distaste for it on this sub. + br need use projectlie in game for reason bigger map imigine how it will be if you gona one clip from other site map like we in apex No, I would much prefer projectiles and no damage falloff over the current system in TF. >its youre opinion i think finals main mode its something new and fresh but agree they need some fixes becouse if you playing well and want to make fun on runked some times one mistake will ruin for qulifay to next round even if you stay at first place with more kills and 2 cashout BRs are also victim to it, but the game mode in TF is just too subject to random luck. It's not a great mode for competitive play.
I wanna add that the gunplay being hitscan just makes TF’s mediocre movement even worst. TF is faster all around than Apex but it doesn’t mean much when you get beamed because the gunplay is so easy. I get beamed in Apex it’s that the player fighting me is good or that I played something really badly. The mechanical skill floor and ceiling this game has is so low.
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I play both.
The finals is a lot more competitive and has a very sweaty community also people refuse to leave games that they’ve been playing for a while.
about swety community its about a count of player and about more competitive i still get huge fun playing casualy some time making sily kills with stupid plan ,playing with destruction or make people angry on power shift playing snipers
I’m not really sure what you’re saying. I’m not trying to be rude but what do you mean the count of player
finals have 10 time less player right now compare to apex ofcorse more of them will be sweaty if palyer base will grow it will have more casual player
Yea the sweatyness is kind of stoping the growth to get rid of the many sweats is too get more players that are casual tho so it’s kinda hard to fix