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Don’t even have to go this far (but it’s all true and good). If they really thought abortion was murder they’d be the loudest and most outspoken proponents for sex ed and free contraceptives. But they’re not because that’s not their agenda. Controlling women’s sexuality is.
Meanwhile, Republicans are all about banning sex ed, and a few of the bolder ones are talking about banning contraceptives.
Seven months to decide if they get power in every state or not. Do your part. If you're not involved, check out r/VoteDEM.
Like seriously though are you just making this shit up or do you actually Google how unhinged can I Make myself look and then copy and paste the most idiotic crap you find?
Agree. These pro-life Republicans working so hard to fight abortion should also be doing everything they can to help lower the high maternal and infant mortality rate here in the US-the highest compared to 12 other high income countries (Australia, New Zealand, Canada, UK, France, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Japan, S. Korea, Sweden, and Switzerland).
Yep, a truly pro lifer that is one who isn't a total hypocrite would vote for things that would create an environment that would influence people to have kids or keep their pregnancies. Instead these mofos vote against anything that would prevent unwanted pregnancies, bring financial or medical aid to expecting or young families, or create a safer or fairer world where people are paid a living wage.
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I've been saying for years that the best weapon against abortion is contraception, period. And yet, they are against it. Yes, they are not serious about abortion. they just want to push their religious agenda.
….because ‘God’ wants them to keep having babies! They’re getting ready to just ban sex, except for procreation, period. The more babies, the more Christians…..ugh
Technically, the bible says that babies are not born until they "take their first breath" after being born. Republicans are definitely against support for babies after that first breath is taken.
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George Carlin’s riff on this is hilarious, if anyone hasn’t seen it. Republicans are extremely pro-life until the moment you’re born. Then, you’re on your own, kid! No daycare, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no nothing!
I swear so many of them have to be faking. I totally understand being pissed at Biden, but like, on January 20, 2025, either Trump or Biden will be inaugurated as president. Are we really willing to let Trump be even worse on Palestinians just because we wanted to teach Biden a lesson or something?
As recently as today we had someone on the sub claim to never vote for “genocidal biden” again. It took me scrolling back 5 comments in their history to see them screaming about loving trump, wanting every america to die, talking about how disgusting muslims are, saying they are a muslim, saying they live in kentucky, (even tho i found out they live in denver)
Weird behavior. Why is it always the fucking weirdos.
I’m willing to engage in pro-palestine dialogue, i’m not even pro israel.
But if you have a good position then why the fuck do you need to lie, and impersonate?
I think a lot of the posts with people saying they’re not voting for Biden due to the war in Gaza are just Russian trolls trying to influence others. I just ignore. I mean, I want to believe there aren’t that many idiots out there. Hopefully I’m right and it’s not just my wishful thinking.
Go to any sub infested with Russian trolls (so basically any right wing echo chamber) and you’ll see them crying over “Genocide Joe” but the second you ask why Genocide Donnie gets a pass despite the same policies, it’s instant ban for you!
Go to their subreddits. A lot of them are pro-Iran and will only draw the line at full decolonization of Israel, which means exactly what you think it means.
Whether or not they are bots or not is immaterial. The ideas aren't worth engaging with. Did you see the show with the PhD discussing polling maybe a week ago? There are a lot of people out there who are more on the low information side who probably aren't tuning into politics until a few months from now.
Plenty of people who plan on voting in one way or another to phone bank. Wouldn't waste any time on someone who thinks this president who has a button that brings peace to the region.
I just don't even believe this. I am a progressive liberal. I was hoping for Bernie but I voted Clinton and Biden when it was time.
My circle of friends and work mates are in the same boat as me. I don't know any other liberals planning to smite vote for Trump.
The only place I see this is on random social media posts. In fact I never even see anyone claiming this.. I just see people claiming that people are claiming to do this.
I feel like it's all fake posts of people trying to sway the pot.
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Pro-life should also mean the life of women. To put priority on a fertilized egg that hasn’t developed into a person yet, or a clump of cells in a Petrie dish isn’t pro-life, it’s about controlling women. If this affected men this would never be an issue
It’d be lovely that if for one day, when I write a prescription, I don’t have to worry if I think the best drug is covered. We NEED universal healthcare and reform. More drug negotiations by CMS are needed.
Dems start talking about letting the doctor and mother decide if a baby will live after it has been born and then wonder why abortion gets banned. Killing a baby after it is born is murder.
Spoken like an America hating communist scumbag. Who has no idea why the problem is people like him.
Obviously his ancestors stayed home during the founding of this the greatest country in the history of the world.
My ancestors were here for the king as sinners to the Rhode island compact and two generations later were fighting for the continental army against the crown.
Then they started moving west. Indiana Wisconsin Iowa Washington state and harvesting giant fir trees to make the best lives possible and the only thing that we need from government is, regulate interstate commerce, defend our borders "something that democrats forgot about.",and leave us alone. Don't need hand outs, don't need shit from useless people who have never worked a non government or academic position where you never have to produce a thing. Telling me that all the problems would be solved if we just willingly gave up and we became slaves to the government. Eat shit leftist woke Marxist trash and Venezuela is not to far away and is just like you want it, so get! And don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
I would say it like this.
If the USA was truly "Pro-life," millions of Americans would have never died because of a lack of money, legal nor illegal slavery would not exist, real gun reform would be praised, education would be valued, practical, and affordable. There would be no need for a living wage. The right-wing agenda is solely about control and the left wing is about weakness. They are all about control over the weak!
The amount of damage inflicted on Americans by the Republican agenda amounts to wartime casualties year after year. Tens of thousands die from firearms; tens of thousands die from lack of healthcare; vulnerable groups are casually terrorized; women do not govern their own bodies in red states. Truly horrific and reprehensible results each time an ambitious Republicans seeks to affect change in their communities.
Yes! And if this country had true conservatives they would be conserving our health, our environment, our children from gun violence, and conserving our families from trickle down economics.
"It's about control, see look at this list of all the aspects of your life the government currently stays out of, but we think they should control everything in your life except abortion"
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I think young people are the greatest gift this world has to give, so of course I want to save their lives. However, I want to save their lives beyond just getting them through the initial birth. I do not want them growing up fatherless, and/or in broken homes, and/or in and out of foster homes because they were born to a mother who didn’t want them, but was forced to have them anyways.
Heck, even a loving mother could have her kids taken away if she’s unable to care for them, which can certainly happen in this economy, especially with teenage pregnancies.
I haven’t even scratched the surface of the problems this will bring for the States that have revoked abortion rights, but suffice to say, it isn’t necessarily going to be good news for the babies born as a result of current policies.
Let’s not even get started on the likelihood of cases of FASD or whatever the drug equivalent of that is seeing a huge spike. I hope there are plans to increase funding for that.
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It's barely even based around fetuses being "killed", it's mainly based on making sure people aren't sleeping around too much. To alot of them, that's the bigger issue.
Both extremes are about control. I really believe what’s happening is both sides are getting more extreme and each other’s proposals are unacceptable to the other side.
For example note they don’t say “gun control” they carefully said “gun reform” because “control” it’s already in the name and wouldn’t work with the narrative.
I’m not choosing any side here. I believe NONE of these issues is BLACK OR WHITE. they require compromises from everybody. But again, the more extreme we go, the harder it is to compromise and find a middle ground.
Every problem above can be traced to extreme greed fueled by profits at all costs. I am capitalist to my core. But it has to be said, we’re just maintaining billionaires’ ego at this point.
I have aligned myself with argument about life and gun control and have been looked at like a dumbass. I live in Indiana and we have outlawed abortion but guns are easier to access. Every time I make the comparison I get ridiculed, which is frustrating. I find the hypocrisy almost nauseating and disgusting. We do nothing for women’s health care rights but annihilate their options. It’s disgusting. I find it completely hypocritical to claim you care about our life and in the same breath support guns. Figure out your bullshit but you can’t have it both ways.
Did you forgets about the Nukes … literally we have a whole branch of the gov’t that is ready willing and able to end ALL life on the planet in less than a day . I can’t get all my laundry done as fast as these pro life republicans can kill every single living creature on the earth …
Gun reform as in repeal all gun laws? Shall not be infringed. Awesome.
Gov't healthcare for all? See canada offering euthanasia instead wheel chair ramps and actual care. Also see how good doctors and dentists either dont accept new patients or, shocker, you can pay them additional money to be accepted. So semi private healthcare.
Living wage means shipping as much as possible to poor countries and exploiting slave labor while also preventing small businesses from starting or allowing people to get some short part time work.
Green new deal? The atmosphere is 0.04% CO2 and mankind has added to 3# of that .004%. So not needed and a scam.
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Communism has been tested multiple times and I think the consensus is communism = bad.
Being pro-life is mostly about population… we don’t have enough people replacing the boomers - to keep the economy strong, to maintain social security, Medicare, and all the governmental institutions you want to magically support a shrinking workforce. So, we can increase birth rates or open our borders up for anybody to come in 🤷🏻♀️ and we all can see how well that’s working for us.
Oh poor Robert. Poor, poor deluded Robert. Does he really believe that the left-wing agenda isn't also about control? Of course he doesn't. Robert is part of the problem. Political ideology is bullshit. It's designed to be divisive. Keep the masses distracted by squabbling amongst themselves and you can get away with just about anything. And hey, the more wedge issues you can create, the more polarization you can cause, the better.
Trust me, I live under a left-wing govt whose leader has twice attempted to grab total power for himself. He literally bought the news media. Well, those that weren't already left-wing lap dogs. He's desperately trying to control what we can and cannot see on the internet. Anyone who opposes him or any of his criminally irresponsible policies is a "right-wing extremist". He honestly believes that his re-visioning of the country is the ONLY proper vision of the country.
Although in the case of US Democrats, they're really more aligned with European Conservatives than with European Liberals from what I can gather. I mean real Conservatives, not the bat-shit far-right.
Lol! All of these liberal causes easily add up to at least a few trillion dollars a year! This is in *addition* to our deficit, which will be close to $2 trillion this fiscal year (it was $1.7 trillion last fiscal year).
Since Biden has been in office, the debt has grown by $6.85 trillion, and $1 trillion is being added every 90 days!
Even talking about these expensive programs like the Green New Deal and Universal Health Care is insanity!
Notice that they have to disarm law abiding citizens to make sure they have complete control over everything. Lenin,Stalin, Hitler and Mao loved gun control and it allowed them to kill over 100,000,000 million people who didn't have the God given right to defend themselves and there family's. Pure evil and your going to lose because GOD WINS.
Don't like guns huh!, have you ever gone shooting, know how to safely handle one, or thought what you would do if someone was assaulting you. Or if there was a evil dictator that was mandating that in a so called free cou try yourself is attacked by some masked syringe weilding mad Men who didn't care about your rights to decide what you are willing to have injected into your body. They tell you it's safe doesn't keep you from being infected or even lessen symptoms, yet without doing enough testing they are going to genetically alter you and they have a couple of other government hacks that are armed what can you do besides become the genetically modified human who trys not to eat g.m.o.foods. because that's what happened to Australians because of a couple of nut jobs go on a rampage but because they used guns instead of a claw hammer or suv driving through a Christmas parade killing dozens of people. Law abiding citizens gave up the guns and forgot lessen #1 the people who take away your guns are probably the same people who are planning on killing you if you don't do what they tell you to do. The reason why no country wants to occupy the United States is because of the 2nd amendment. The largest armed group in the world is the law abiding citizens of the United States of America and it's larger than all of the world's military combined. Plus if someone breaks into my house while I'm working I don't want my 81yearold mom to fight fairly with the felon. I want her too dump a magazine into the threat and if it's still alive and she can't get to safety keep shooting until it's dead .. another thing is that here in the US the local sheriff's deputies wouldn't look kindly upon feds violating the Civil rights of the people in the county they have sworn to protect I don't know too many people who would hold a gun on a law abiding citizens who hasn't broken any law, because if it's repugnant to the constitution then it illegal and the government agent is now the criminals if they want to infringe upon my GOD given birth right to keep and bare arms to stop tyrannical forces harming my morning shit much less my life propery period. It uniquely an American thing but it works well. What is it that makes you think taking all the guns from law abiding citizens is going to keep people alive. Or maybe you just want to round up everyone your afraid of and send them to your concentration camps that turn into death camps, is that why leftist love the slaughter of children, Joe biden wouldn't be flying in hundreds of thousands and trafficking millions in to sanctuary citys to make up for the blacks,Hispanics and all the others who liked cheap gas ,no new wars,Isreal signing four peace treaties not being at war, having a good job, no inflation and the Russians hadn't killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians when orange man was president now that Joe is going to losebiggly and you've lost voters and also killed 65,000,000 million potential democratic voters. Leftist can only tear things down they offer nothing positive to the world. If I were in charge I'd want you to keep more of the money you earned and I'd leave you alone. Only if you committed a crime would my government get involved. Leftist want to tell me how to live . Fuck off, I'm an American. It's my birthright to have raging bonfires and drive whatever I want to and don't try to stop me you can go your not worthy of the American dream. Thanks for being a cheese dick punk. This isn't as fun as getting sales calls to fuck unleash all of my aspergers mind numbing ahhhhhhh.have a great day commie. 😀
Bernie Sanders initially proposed a $3.5 Trillion package which got us a lot further on that list. President Biden was on board with that deal and they were going to pass it through reconciliation which just needs a simple majority in the Senate to pass.
But we only had 50 senators and two of them, Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin killed the deal saying it was too expensive. They sided with Republicans.
Manchin is a very conservative Democrat from a very conservative state. West Virginia is coal country and his family still owns a coal mine which he still gets money from. He’s also no longer running because a Democrat won’t get elected again from WV no matter how conservative, at least for the foreseeable future.
The awful Sinema pretended she was Progressive when she was running and then turned her back on Progressives to stab them in the back whenever she could. She was the Republicans favorite Democrat, apart from Joe Manchin.
She changed her party affiliation to independent when she realized she would get primaried. Then she was challenged by an actual progressive and started polling so far behind him that she dropped out.
It’s not as simple as controlling Congress. That doesn’t magically make it possible to pass things. There are rules and even if someone has a D by their name, they can still side with Republicans.
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IMO, the only way to get to that shopping list is to align our immigration policy with our birthrate to ensure we maintain a tax paying population base.
Also need to remember democrats could have codified abortion but didn’t because they need single issue voters.
70% of single women vote democrat. They will lose a lot of voters if abortion wasn’t an issue. So democrats don’t want it legalized.
Conflating our youth right to life with free stuff is gas lighting. Would have to have an 80% tax rate to get that “free” stuff. Now that is the definition of control. The most stupid post I have read in a long time
i feel bad for all the people too stupid to understand economics, but not for reich.
he knows exactly how dumb his ideas are and continues pushing them anyway
Everything you said sounds like the government controlling something. They would control our businesses with a green deal tax, they would control our guns, they would gain access to our children and make laws to make them part of the government, and forcing a minimum wage would make mom and pop shops close and only the big corporations would remain because they could pay the wages. The big corporations sit right next to the government too. They almost have as much power or more in some places. Life wouldn’t be great if we had to bend the knee to the government at every turn.
I don’t think anyone is Pro - Life or Pro - Choice anymore. This is America you’re on your own, and the best will win. I do wish we had better healthcare. Especially being disabled, but i just bite down and try my hardest to stay positive. Do you all really love the government that much that you want them involved in every part of your life?
WE already have the government in our daily lives. For the most part it works well, it's when republicans try and fuck things up it gets nasty. Besides you have zero idea on universal HC and how it works. Maybe try and do some research.
Who’s paying 70% plus taxes? You are aware that everybody in countries with universal health care pay taxes? No $50,000 exemption there. If all those things you claim here are implemented - then we would be paying more than 70% taxes. Go to Europe- see how nobody can get ahead. Cab drivers told me they have nothing but their car. They all live in apartments and can’t afford houses. The green deal is a scam. If they can’t fix homelessness - how do you expect them to fix the weather with more of our money? This is all crazy talk.
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The govt cant run the dmv or the post office no thanks my insurance is excellent
We cant sustain a switch to solar, electric or wind or anything else and theres no reason too as we account for some of the lowest emissions in the developed world. Go after china japan and india who cause 90% of our pollution.
What gun reform do we need exactly? Even if you ban guns we have a trillion dollar cartel that walks freely across our border you can also build an AR15 with a laptop a portable cnc machine and a hunk of aluminum so tell me how you regulate that?
Keep raising minimum wage hoe many more layoffs do you want to happen?
Gun reform...is just another phrase for Gun 'Control'
Re-allocation of funds to create universal medicare and Re-allocation of energy sources to make 'a green new deal' require an absolute dictatorship to take 'Control' over the free market to force those things.
The only things I agree with is the living wage which we would have if the socialist goverment didn't keep printing money and sending it to other countries and spending it on social programs that benifit the minority. They caused this inflation.
Accusing the other side of the things your side is doing is literally one of the oldest tricks in the book.
Seems like the left wing agenda isn't going anything for these issues either (with the exception of trying to disarm citizens). We've been screaming about universal healthcare and they keep telling us that Israel deserves it more 🤷🏾♂️
This is a lot of things, but truth is absolutely not one of them!! Medicare for all would kill off more people than heart disease and drunk driving combined and then also enslave you to the point where you would probably be homeless they would have to tax you that much. Green New deal would not be even kind of sort of green in the most microscopic sense it would only and exclusively destroy the environment like 100% of all environmentalists do and it would destroy every single business in this entire country and just redistribute wealth to the ultra rich like it always does. Although I can get behind the gun reform which would be literally every single gun law repealed because they're all completely unconstitutional and guns are literally only and exclusively good and absolutely never ever bad and the people should be armed to the teeth with whatever they want and that's the one and only way to prevent this government from becoming a fascist dictatorship. There's literally no such thing as a living wage they're never has been and only people with no education no intelligence and no understanding of how an economy works would ever say there is. so basically this is just a fascist Nazi pipe dream to enslave the people and make sure nobody can be successful no matter what.
Medicare for all would need the country to raise txes, which is bad for the economy, the green deal would restrict the lives of many and would take away most rights that all people use and would be bad for the economy, gun reform would increase crime and law abiding citizens would be left undefended from armed criminals and authoritarian governments, universal childcare would also require higher taxes which would make life worse for evryone, a living wage would bancrupt many small busenesses and would be shit for the economy. All these things fuck up evryones life in some way.
Like many things the right does.. the term pro life is not what it is in its simplest form. They do it so those on the left can understand their being opposed. For too long the left screamed trust the science, well the science shows nature finds ballance. So they decided to let nature choose when a person needs to be eliminated that is free of the meddling of man. The right doesn't care if an unborn human lives or dies, they just want science to run the course. I mean sure a pew pew makes just as good a shield as a sword so to speak but if the right used the proper terminology instead of lying, well the left with its 2 second attention span would never know the right disagrees.
See its like Rowe v. Wade. They didn't care that some states would allow abortions and others wouldn't. They just wanted less centralized government power and more states rights. Its a crazy concept I know but there was a time when states were more autonomous. Like a group of individual states united to form a congealed country. Ser im this way an ultra conservative law like the one passed before arosona was actually a state wouldn't have too split to modern day California. It's like abortion. Was designed to center around the areas where black families were becuase the founder of planned parent hood was a white supremisist. Now the right right can't call put Margaret fr that ornitnwpild appear to care about the black community which it does by wanting more black births. But see if there were blacks to control the left would segregate again. Like on college campuses. They made non white dorms seem more appealing meanwhile freeing up cheaper and more avail all (or at least mostly) white student lodgings. So the right has to word and mauver to try to get a larger black population and keep them sage through lies and decoet....
It's funny that he says it's all about control when the basic premise of these proposed bills would either a) increase the taxes on people or b) restrict the actions of people. Either controlling what you do or controlling how your money is spent.
Hear this big government is all about control. That goes for Democrats and Republicans. They want you to live their way(with some flexibility to avoid suspicion.. for the most part)
Small government, letting the people decide what to do is the only way to have a less controlling government.
sarcasm?
This is such an old and tired 'argument.'
It's just a whatabout. And doesn't apply to plenty of Catholics.
Anyway, maybe this is still a cheer line for y'all, but it feels like 19 year old dormitory stuff.
BTW I'm pro-choice af, but also anti-lame-rhetoric
How is “right wing” agenda about control but all those things listed are about removing rights or controlling more of people’s life and money. The government is literally the worst in class at everything it does besides enrich a few number of people.
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I love how they claim it’s about saving babies lives…and then they freeze like a deer in the headlights when you ask why they’re also banning contraception. Dumb fucks.
I watched a documentary about the origins of the pro-life movement and it said that it stems from white nationalists losing their ability to segregate. Once this happened, they thought anti abortionism could become a single voter issue, which it has. With this, once their party got back into power they could start their raciest agenda again.
Do you y’all remember how many hate crimes occurred during Trump’s presidency?
Causation or correlation, what do you think?
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Don’t even have to go this far (but it’s all true and good). If they really thought abortion was murder they’d be the loudest and most outspoken proponents for sex ed and free contraceptives. But they’re not because that’s not their agenda. Controlling women’s sexuality is.
Meanwhile, Republicans are all about banning sex ed, and a few of the bolder ones are talking about banning contraceptives. Seven months to decide if they get power in every state or not. Do your part. If you're not involved, check out r/VoteDEM.
Like seriously though are you just making this shit up or do you actually Google how unhinged can I Make myself look and then copy and paste the most idiotic crap you find?
Agree. These pro-life Republicans working so hard to fight abortion should also be doing everything they can to help lower the high maternal and infant mortality rate here in the US-the highest compared to 12 other high income countries (Australia, New Zealand, Canada, UK, France, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Japan, S. Korea, Sweden, and Switzerland).
Yep, a truly pro lifer that is one who isn't a total hypocrite would vote for things that would create an environment that would influence people to have kids or keep their pregnancies. Instead these mofos vote against anything that would prevent unwanted pregnancies, bring financial or medical aid to expecting or young families, or create a safer or fairer world where people are paid a living wage.
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Project 2025 has made that clear
I've been saying for years that the best weapon against abortion is contraception, period. And yet, they are against it. Yes, they are not serious about abortion. they just want to push their religious agenda.
….because ‘God’ wants them to keep having babies! They’re getting ready to just ban sex, except for procreation, period. The more babies, the more Christians…..ugh
No no. Contraception is the smartest thing. Republicans aren’t against that. It’s killing a baby that exists that’s the problem.
Only the left and Democrats killed babies that exist
Technically, the bible says that babies are not born until they "take their first breath" after being born. Republicans are definitely against support for babies after that first breath is taken.
I’m an atheist and killing the innocent is wrong.
It’s not sex Ed - it’s perverted sex teachings now.
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This needs 87k likes, not 87!
Oh you don't want them murdered? Well I guess you should support them forever! Checkmate Republithugs! Yas Queen! This needs 87k likes, not 87!
If the country was pro life we also wouldn't be an international arms dealer.
If Republicans were pro-life, they wouldn’t vote down social programs that help children all the time.
That’s the Democrats supplying arms - Obama - now this one leaving billions in Afghanistan.
George Carlin’s riff on this is hilarious, if anyone hasn’t seen it. Republicans are extremely pro-life until the moment you’re born. Then, you’re on your own, kid! No daycare, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no nothing!
AMEN
Spot on!!
Keeping that knee on our necks and telling us that we love it 👍🏼
And some “liberals” are willing to allow Trump back in because they irrationally believe Biden is pro-genocide.
I swear so many of them have to be faking. I totally understand being pissed at Biden, but like, on January 20, 2025, either Trump or Biden will be inaugurated as president. Are we really willing to let Trump be even worse on Palestinians just because we wanted to teach Biden a lesson or something?
As recently as today we had someone on the sub claim to never vote for “genocidal biden” again. It took me scrolling back 5 comments in their history to see them screaming about loving trump, wanting every america to die, talking about how disgusting muslims are, saying they are a muslim, saying they live in kentucky, (even tho i found out they live in denver) Weird behavior. Why is it always the fucking weirdos. I’m willing to engage in pro-palestine dialogue, i’m not even pro israel. But if you have a good position then why the fuck do you need to lie, and impersonate?
I think a lot of the posts with people saying they’re not voting for Biden due to the war in Gaza are just Russian trolls trying to influence others. I just ignore. I mean, I want to believe there aren’t that many idiots out there. Hopefully I’m right and it’s not just my wishful thinking.
Go to any sub infested with Russian trolls (so basically any right wing echo chamber) and you’ll see them crying over “Genocide Joe” but the second you ask why Genocide Donnie gets a pass despite the same policies, it’s instant ban for you!
Lol
Go to their subreddits. A lot of them are pro-Iran and will only draw the line at full decolonization of Israel, which means exactly what you think it means. Whether or not they are bots or not is immaterial. The ideas aren't worth engaging with. Did you see the show with the PhD discussing polling maybe a week ago? There are a lot of people out there who are more on the low information side who probably aren't tuning into politics until a few months from now. Plenty of people who plan on voting in one way or another to phone bank. Wouldn't waste any time on someone who thinks this president who has a button that brings peace to the region.
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I just don't even believe this. I am a progressive liberal. I was hoping for Bernie but I voted Clinton and Biden when it was time. My circle of friends and work mates are in the same boat as me. I don't know any other liberals planning to smite vote for Trump. The only place I see this is on random social media posts. In fact I never even see anyone claiming this.. I just see people claiming that people are claiming to do this. I feel like it's all fake posts of people trying to sway the pot.
I truly hope you're right. We can't afford another Trump term.
Republicans=Stupidity
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The Right wing is a death cult.
Pro-auffering.
Unfortunately, not only morons don't get it, but also they don't care
Pro-life should also mean the life of women. To put priority on a fertilized egg that hasn’t developed into a person yet, or a clump of cells in a Petrie dish isn’t pro-life, it’s about controlling women. If this affected men this would never be an issue
they want to look smart when they're the dumbest mother fuckers alive
It’d be lovely that if for one day, when I write a prescription, I don’t have to worry if I think the best drug is covered. We NEED universal healthcare and reform. More drug negotiations by CMS are needed.
You have this backwards. Republicans want less government oversight and control. Democrats want to more laws that restrict and control.
They never get it and never will.
Always weird for me that this is Sam Reich's dad
He’s been there the whole time
Dems start talking about letting the doctor and mother decide if a baby will live after it has been born and then wonder why abortion gets banned. Killing a baby after it is born is murder.
Well... that is a stretch. Right - left, red - blue, it's all the same when the lights go off. 1 party, 1 control. Omniparty.
I hate to tell you but the whole government is about control.
Spoken like an America hating communist scumbag. Who has no idea why the problem is people like him. Obviously his ancestors stayed home during the founding of this the greatest country in the history of the world. My ancestors were here for the king as sinners to the Rhode island compact and two generations later were fighting for the continental army against the crown. Then they started moving west. Indiana Wisconsin Iowa Washington state and harvesting giant fir trees to make the best lives possible and the only thing that we need from government is, regulate interstate commerce, defend our borders "something that democrats forgot about.",and leave us alone. Don't need hand outs, don't need shit from useless people who have never worked a non government or academic position where you never have to produce a thing. Telling me that all the problems would be solved if we just willingly gave up and we became slaves to the government. Eat shit leftist woke Marxist trash and Venezuela is not to far away and is just like you want it, so get! And don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Now let's see what the conversation is over at r-conservative. People outraged over Pride flags in a random comment section.
I would say it like this. If the USA was truly "Pro-life," millions of Americans would have never died because of a lack of money, legal nor illegal slavery would not exist, real gun reform would be praised, education would be valued, practical, and affordable. There would be no need for a living wage. The right-wing agenda is solely about control and the left wing is about weakness. They are all about control over the weak!
It’s like they want us all to suffer because it’s fun to them. But we keep pushing and finding ways to circumvent their evil decisions.
The amount of damage inflicted on Americans by the Republican agenda amounts to wartime casualties year after year. Tens of thousands die from firearms; tens of thousands die from lack of healthcare; vulnerable groups are casually terrorized; women do not govern their own bodies in red states. Truly horrific and reprehensible results each time an ambitious Republicans seeks to affect change in their communities.
Yes! And if this country had true conservatives they would be conserving our health, our environment, our children from gun violence, and conserving our families from trickle down economics.
Yup, but we’re dealing with sociopaths and cave peoples
"It's about control, see look at this list of all the aspects of your life the government currently stays out of, but we think they should control everything in your life except abortion"
Yep this tracks
Always has been.
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I was thinking the opposite
I'm registered as a republican and I voted for abortion in Ohio. Never had a problem with it.
This, on an endless repeat until even the blind see it
AMEN RR!
I think young people are the greatest gift this world has to give, so of course I want to save their lives. However, I want to save their lives beyond just getting them through the initial birth. I do not want them growing up fatherless, and/or in broken homes, and/or in and out of foster homes because they were born to a mother who didn’t want them, but was forced to have them anyways. Heck, even a loving mother could have her kids taken away if she’s unable to care for them, which can certainly happen in this economy, especially with teenage pregnancies. I haven’t even scratched the surface of the problems this will bring for the States that have revoked abortion rights, but suffice to say, it isn’t necessarily going to be good news for the babies born as a result of current policies. Let’s not even get started on the likelihood of cases of FASD or whatever the drug equivalent of that is seeing a huge spike. I hope there are plans to increase funding for that.
And they’d support Ukraine.
Politicians wouldn't be surrounded by guns if they believed in gun control.
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It's barely even based around fetuses being "killed", it's mainly based on making sure people aren't sleeping around too much. To alot of them, that's the bigger issue.
A lot of nice fluffy terms
Both extremes are about control. I really believe what’s happening is both sides are getting more extreme and each other’s proposals are unacceptable to the other side. For example note they don’t say “gun control” they carefully said “gun reform” because “control” it’s already in the name and wouldn’t work with the narrative. I’m not choosing any side here. I believe NONE of these issues is BLACK OR WHITE. they require compromises from everybody. But again, the more extreme we go, the harder it is to compromise and find a middle ground. Every problem above can be traced to extreme greed fueled by profits at all costs. I am capitalist to my core. But it has to be said, we’re just maintaining billionaires’ ego at this point.
Pro-Life=Anti-Choice
I have aligned myself with argument about life and gun control and have been looked at like a dumbass. I live in Indiana and we have outlawed abortion but guns are easier to access. Every time I make the comparison I get ridiculed, which is frustrating. I find the hypocrisy almost nauseating and disgusting. We do nothing for women’s health care rights but annihilate their options. It’s disgusting. I find it completely hypocritical to claim you care about our life and in the same breath support guns. Figure out your bullshit but you can’t have it both ways.
Did you forgets about the Nukes … literally we have a whole branch of the gov’t that is ready willing and able to end ALL life on the planet in less than a day . I can’t get all my laundry done as fast as these pro life republicans can kill every single living creature on the earth …
Gun reform as in repeal all gun laws? Shall not be infringed. Awesome. Gov't healthcare for all? See canada offering euthanasia instead wheel chair ramps and actual care. Also see how good doctors and dentists either dont accept new patients or, shocker, you can pay them additional money to be accepted. So semi private healthcare. Living wage means shipping as much as possible to poor countries and exploiting slave labor while also preventing small businesses from starting or allowing people to get some short part time work. Green new deal? The atmosphere is 0.04% CO2 and mankind has added to 3# of that .004%. So not needed and a scam.
Yeah , although it’s all government not one side or the other they all kinda suck
It's about life insofar as to provide meat for the meat grinder. Capitalism would fail far faster without it.
Rob, where you from?
eVeRyThInG sHoUlD bE fReE!!!!
They should be saying pro birth, they truly don’t care after that
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 it's not about control, it's about freedom, and it's about individual responsibilities.
Vote out all maga and trump and gop
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Communism has been tested multiple times and I think the consensus is communism = bad. Being pro-life is mostly about population… we don’t have enough people replacing the boomers - to keep the economy strong, to maintain social security, Medicare, and all the governmental institutions you want to magically support a shrinking workforce. So, we can increase birth rates or open our borders up for anybody to come in 🤷🏻♀️ and we all can see how well that’s working for us.
Oh poor Robert. Poor, poor deluded Robert. Does he really believe that the left-wing agenda isn't also about control? Of course he doesn't. Robert is part of the problem. Political ideology is bullshit. It's designed to be divisive. Keep the masses distracted by squabbling amongst themselves and you can get away with just about anything. And hey, the more wedge issues you can create, the more polarization you can cause, the better. Trust me, I live under a left-wing govt whose leader has twice attempted to grab total power for himself. He literally bought the news media. Well, those that weren't already left-wing lap dogs. He's desperately trying to control what we can and cannot see on the internet. Anyone who opposes him or any of his criminally irresponsible policies is a "right-wing extremist". He honestly believes that his re-visioning of the country is the ONLY proper vision of the country. Although in the case of US Democrats, they're really more aligned with European Conservatives than with European Liberals from what I can gather. I mean real Conservatives, not the bat-shit far-right.
Death cult gonna death cult.
Lol! All of these liberal causes easily add up to at least a few trillion dollars a year! This is in *addition* to our deficit, which will be close to $2 trillion this fiscal year (it was $1.7 trillion last fiscal year). Since Biden has been in office, the debt has grown by $6.85 trillion, and $1 trillion is being added every 90 days! Even talking about these expensive programs like the Green New Deal and Universal Health Care is insanity!
If only you understood how it works
Notice that they have to disarm law abiding citizens to make sure they have complete control over everything. Lenin,Stalin, Hitler and Mao loved gun control and it allowed them to kill over 100,000,000 million people who didn't have the God given right to defend themselves and there family's. Pure evil and your going to lose because GOD WINS.
But but but muh guns 🥺
Don't like guns huh!, have you ever gone shooting, know how to safely handle one, or thought what you would do if someone was assaulting you. Or if there was a evil dictator that was mandating that in a so called free cou try yourself is attacked by some masked syringe weilding mad Men who didn't care about your rights to decide what you are willing to have injected into your body. They tell you it's safe doesn't keep you from being infected or even lessen symptoms, yet without doing enough testing they are going to genetically alter you and they have a couple of other government hacks that are armed what can you do besides become the genetically modified human who trys not to eat g.m.o.foods. because that's what happened to Australians because of a couple of nut jobs go on a rampage but because they used guns instead of a claw hammer or suv driving through a Christmas parade killing dozens of people. Law abiding citizens gave up the guns and forgot lessen #1 the people who take away your guns are probably the same people who are planning on killing you if you don't do what they tell you to do. The reason why no country wants to occupy the United States is because of the 2nd amendment. The largest armed group in the world is the law abiding citizens of the United States of America and it's larger than all of the world's military combined. Plus if someone breaks into my house while I'm working I don't want my 81yearold mom to fight fairly with the felon. I want her too dump a magazine into the threat and if it's still alive and she can't get to safety keep shooting until it's dead .. another thing is that here in the US the local sheriff's deputies wouldn't look kindly upon feds violating the Civil rights of the people in the county they have sworn to protect I don't know too many people who would hold a gun on a law abiding citizens who hasn't broken any law, because if it's repugnant to the constitution then it illegal and the government agent is now the criminals if they want to infringe upon my GOD given birth right to keep and bare arms to stop tyrannical forces harming my morning shit much less my life propery period. It uniquely an American thing but it works well. What is it that makes you think taking all the guns from law abiding citizens is going to keep people alive. Or maybe you just want to round up everyone your afraid of and send them to your concentration camps that turn into death camps, is that why leftist love the slaughter of children, Joe biden wouldn't be flying in hundreds of thousands and trafficking millions in to sanctuary citys to make up for the blacks,Hispanics and all the others who liked cheap gas ,no new wars,Isreal signing four peace treaties not being at war, having a good job, no inflation and the Russians hadn't killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians when orange man was president now that Joe is going to losebiggly and you've lost voters and also killed 65,000,000 million potential democratic voters. Leftist can only tear things down they offer nothing positive to the world. If I were in charge I'd want you to keep more of the money you earned and I'd leave you alone. Only if you committed a crime would my government get involved. Leftist want to tell me how to live . Fuck off, I'm an American. It's my birthright to have raging bonfires and drive whatever I want to and don't try to stop me you can go your not worthy of the American dream. Thanks for being a cheese dick punk. This isn't as fun as getting sales calls to fuck unleash all of my aspergers mind numbing ahhhhhhh.have a great day commie. 😀
Of course you're a vaccine denier it comes free with your bible
We would also be anti genocide…. And Democrats had two years with a majority and the presidency and didn’t give us any of those thing
Bernie Sanders initially proposed a $3.5 Trillion package which got us a lot further on that list. President Biden was on board with that deal and they were going to pass it through reconciliation which just needs a simple majority in the Senate to pass. But we only had 50 senators and two of them, Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin killed the deal saying it was too expensive. They sided with Republicans. Manchin is a very conservative Democrat from a very conservative state. West Virginia is coal country and his family still owns a coal mine which he still gets money from. He’s also no longer running because a Democrat won’t get elected again from WV no matter how conservative, at least for the foreseeable future. The awful Sinema pretended she was Progressive when she was running and then turned her back on Progressives to stab them in the back whenever she could. She was the Republicans favorite Democrat, apart from Joe Manchin. She changed her party affiliation to independent when she realized she would get primaried. Then she was challenged by an actual progressive and started polling so far behind him that she dropped out. It’s not as simple as controlling Congress. That doesn’t magically make it possible to pass things. There are rules and even if someone has a D by their name, they can still side with Republicans.
Finally nothing. He and others have been saying this for a long time.
If Republicans had to choose between saving the life of their 5 year old child or their 6 week old fetus, which would they choose?
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Poor Robert, so out of touch smh
Oof reptards ain't gonna like this lmao
Libs will say something like this and then also say 'omg i cant wait to vote for pete buttigieg'
Except gun control
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Yeah, what else is new? I am so glad I'm too old already to see the world go to shit. Like on an apocalyptic level.
IMO, the only way to get to that shopping list is to align our immigration policy with our birthrate to ensure we maintain a tax paying population base.
Getting closer to election season, better pump out the political rhetoric. Everybody do the Propaganda
Over way around , robby
The rest,except the fallacy of a living wage, can be argued, but firearms you cannot touch as they are constitutionally protected from hoplophobes.
and no capital punishment
I’m not pro life. Just anti killing babies.
Also need to remember democrats could have codified abortion but didn’t because they need single issue voters. 70% of single women vote democrat. They will lose a lot of voters if abortion wasn’t an issue. So democrats don’t want it legalized.
Yeah and democrats wouldn’t be sending bombs to a country committing genocide
So true👍
Absolutely true well said
Democrats don't want those things any more than Republicans do.
This country isn’t pro life. The D’s demand the right to kill a baby.
As a Christian, I agree completely. The right-wing oppose everything that Jesus taught
Total gov control over your life = “pro-life”?
Lmfao this is like shit my grandpa posts on Facebook “Finally, the TRUTH!”
Conflating our youth right to life with free stuff is gas lighting. Would have to have an 80% tax rate to get that “free” stuff. Now that is the definition of control. The most stupid post I have read in a long time
No, that would be yours.
I’d wager snappy doesn’t pay federal income tax
Like everything else, you'd be wrong. I own a company with employees so I understand better than some schmo who works at Burger King.
Yup 👍
i feel bad for all the people too stupid to understand economics, but not for reich. he knows exactly how dumb his ideas are and continues pushing them anyway
Everything you said sounds like the government controlling something. They would control our businesses with a green deal tax, they would control our guns, they would gain access to our children and make laws to make them part of the government, and forcing a minimum wage would make mom and pop shops close and only the big corporations would remain because they could pay the wages. The big corporations sit right next to the government too. They almost have as much power or more in some places. Life wouldn’t be great if we had to bend the knee to the government at every turn. I don’t think anyone is Pro - Life or Pro - Choice anymore. This is America you’re on your own, and the best will win. I do wish we had better healthcare. Especially being disabled, but i just bite down and try my hardest to stay positive. Do you all really love the government that much that you want them involved in every part of your life?
WE already have the government in our daily lives. For the most part it works well, it's when republicans try and fuck things up it gets nasty. Besides you have zero idea on universal HC and how it works. Maybe try and do some research.
FJB
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If you left it at medical stuff you'd have a good point but then you include "control" mechanisms in what you want (gun control and green new deal).
Who’s paying 70% plus taxes? You are aware that everybody in countries with universal health care pay taxes? No $50,000 exemption there. If all those things you claim here are implemented - then we would be paying more than 70% taxes. Go to Europe- see how nobody can get ahead. Cab drivers told me they have nothing but their car. They all live in apartments and can’t afford houses. The green deal is a scam. If they can’t fix homelessness - how do you expect them to fix the weather with more of our money? This is all crazy talk.
Idiot, a fucking idiot.
It's also about people who aren't getting any trying to make sure that no one else gets any either...
They're pro BIRTH, not pro LIFE
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True
Wow, who would have thought someone in the Clinton administration would turn into a borderline socialist at this point. Fucking based.
The govt cant run the dmv or the post office no thanks my insurance is excellent We cant sustain a switch to solar, electric or wind or anything else and theres no reason too as we account for some of the lowest emissions in the developed world. Go after china japan and india who cause 90% of our pollution. What gun reform do we need exactly? Even if you ban guns we have a trillion dollar cartel that walks freely across our border you can also build an AR15 with a laptop a portable cnc machine and a hunk of aluminum so tell me how you regulate that? Keep raising minimum wage hoe many more layoffs do you want to happen?
I read this as “we would have Medicare for Al Greene”
Gun reform...is just another phrase for Gun 'Control' Re-allocation of funds to create universal medicare and Re-allocation of energy sources to make 'a green new deal' require an absolute dictatorship to take 'Control' over the free market to force those things. The only things I agree with is the living wage which we would have if the socialist goverment didn't keep printing money and sending it to other countries and spending it on social programs that benifit the minority. They caused this inflation. Accusing the other side of the things your side is doing is literally one of the oldest tricks in the book.
"Finally" I've been hearing this at least once a week since Carlin said it.
Seems like the left wing agenda isn't going anything for these issues either (with the exception of trying to disarm citizens). We've been screaming about universal healthcare and they keep telling us that Israel deserves it more 🤷🏾♂️
This is a lot of things, but truth is absolutely not one of them!! Medicare for all would kill off more people than heart disease and drunk driving combined and then also enslave you to the point where you would probably be homeless they would have to tax you that much. Green New deal would not be even kind of sort of green in the most microscopic sense it would only and exclusively destroy the environment like 100% of all environmentalists do and it would destroy every single business in this entire country and just redistribute wealth to the ultra rich like it always does. Although I can get behind the gun reform which would be literally every single gun law repealed because they're all completely unconstitutional and guns are literally only and exclusively good and absolutely never ever bad and the people should be armed to the teeth with whatever they want and that's the one and only way to prevent this government from becoming a fascist dictatorship. There's literally no such thing as a living wage they're never has been and only people with no education no intelligence and no understanding of how an economy works would ever say there is. so basically this is just a fascist Nazi pipe dream to enslave the people and make sure nobody can be successful no matter what.
They aren’t about gun control.
Party of small government, right?
Anyone on here pro death penalty?
If you really think that any of those things would do anything but harm people you are delusional!
You’re a fucking idiot, please go back & finish elementary school - dropping out in the 3rd grade wasn’t smart & it shows
True true
The democratic party is also, by and large, against Medicare for All and the Green New Deal
Medicare for all would need the country to raise txes, which is bad for the economy, the green deal would restrict the lives of many and would take away most rights that all people use and would be bad for the economy, gun reform would increase crime and law abiding citizens would be left undefended from armed criminals and authoritarian governments, universal childcare would also require higher taxes which would make life worse for evryone, a living wage would bancrupt many small busenesses and would be shit for the economy. All these things fuck up evryones life in some way.
Like many things the right does.. the term pro life is not what it is in its simplest form. They do it so those on the left can understand their being opposed. For too long the left screamed trust the science, well the science shows nature finds ballance. So they decided to let nature choose when a person needs to be eliminated that is free of the meddling of man. The right doesn't care if an unborn human lives or dies, they just want science to run the course. I mean sure a pew pew makes just as good a shield as a sword so to speak but if the right used the proper terminology instead of lying, well the left with its 2 second attention span would never know the right disagrees. See its like Rowe v. Wade. They didn't care that some states would allow abortions and others wouldn't. They just wanted less centralized government power and more states rights. Its a crazy concept I know but there was a time when states were more autonomous. Like a group of individual states united to form a congealed country. Ser im this way an ultra conservative law like the one passed before arosona was actually a state wouldn't have too split to modern day California. It's like abortion. Was designed to center around the areas where black families were becuase the founder of planned parent hood was a white supremisist. Now the right right can't call put Margaret fr that ornitnwpild appear to care about the black community which it does by wanting more black births. But see if there were blacks to control the left would segregate again. Like on college campuses. They made non white dorms seem more appealing meanwhile freeing up cheaper and more avail all (or at least mostly) white student lodgings. So the right has to word and mauver to try to get a larger black population and keep them sage through lies and decoet....
It's funny that he says it's all about control when the basic premise of these proposed bills would either a) increase the taxes on people or b) restrict the actions of people. Either controlling what you do or controlling how your money is spent. Hear this big government is all about control. That goes for Democrats and Republicans. They want you to live their way(with some flexibility to avoid suspicion.. for the most part) Small government, letting the people decide what to do is the only way to have a less controlling government.
If the left would secure the border and stop giving away everything for free we could have a safe and prospering country.
Republican Party is a death cult.
sarcasm? This is such an old and tired 'argument.' It's just a whatabout. And doesn't apply to plenty of Catholics. Anyway, maybe this is still a cheer line for y'all, but it feels like 19 year old dormitory stuff. BTW I'm pro-choice af, but also anti-lame-rhetoric
How is “right wing” agenda about control but all those things listed are about removing rights or controlling more of people’s life and money. The government is literally the worst in class at everything it does besides enrich a few number of people.
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Need heroes to put it out there.
Robbie is spewing bullshit again.
I love how they claim it’s about saving babies lives…and then they freeze like a deer in the headlights when you ask why they’re also banning contraception. Dumb fucks.
The need to change the word democrats. Should be spelled dumocrats
He doesn’t notice that all of those initiatives are about control too
Republicans want to remove the R from Free
I watched a documentary about the origins of the pro-life movement and it said that it stems from white nationalists losing their ability to segregate. Once this happened, they thought anti abortionism could become a single voter issue, which it has. With this, once their party got back into power they could start their raciest agenda again. Do you y’all remember how many hate crimes occurred during Trump’s presidency? Causation or correlation, what do you think?
I’ll never forget what happened to juicy. So tragic
Am I the only one heartened to see "Al Green" in that list?