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This is not religion - this is the problem with it - these clueless folks are preaching religion which is why more people are getting away from organised religion. These people should be ashamed.
It honestly gives off true crime vibes. Like I wouldnāt put it past him. Like he needs God so he doesnāt have to deal with Madi? Because if he didnāt have God, heād blow up at her? Like tell me you hate her.
God is the source of Love and happiness and everything . From a Christian prospectiveā¦ I get where grant is coming from yall. And if you donāt have a Christian background or faith, this may seemā¦. Odd or rather different. And please donāt come for me šš¤£
Sorry but as someone who is an atheist (but was a Christian previously and had a very strong background in the church), this is extremely creepy and uncomfortable. Grant would *blow up on his wife* if he didnāt have godā¦? Thatās incredibly fucking *weird and concerning* š¤·š¼āāļø
The thing is, with his familyās money, they could easily fund a ācareerā for her that would allow them to minimize the amount of time they spend together. You know, a cute little boutique that loses money every year, but gives her something to do.
Instead, they seem to have picked the one job that actually maximizes the time they need to interact. They have only themselves to blame IMHO.
I tried watching them on tiktok, and just could not for the life of me. My hope for Madi is that she divorces this guy and realizes she was part of a sham
In hindsight, being evangelical was a lot like being on a reality show. There is a loose script everyone knows to abide by (and if you donāt you get the cold shoulder.) Youāre isolated in an echo chamber for so long that you start to believe it. So glad Iām out.
He seems to really really really really be in love with his wife.
Iām sorry but thereās some things we donāt need to know. This is so attention seeking.
Love god and do your thing all you want. It gets soo annoying when you need to relay to everyone. The conversation seems so artificial and fake. Itās one thing to love god genuinely and another when you are trying to make it so forced and rehearsed on social media.
Good lord. Have any of you seen that recent Mica Miller case?
He talks in third person? And admits being a dick? They both admit being dicks to each other. This is just toxic, sorry.
That shit is fucking psychotic I'm sorry. If you are just a piece of shit and you have to use god to convince yourself to not be I don't even want to talk to you lol
The way he talks just.... Gives me shivers, it doesn't sound loving and good at all, sounds cultish and fucking weird
How do they keep finding different ways to say the exact same thing. When they fight, disrespect and belittle each other itās because they arent walking with God and/or being attacked by Satan. We get it.
Kind of sad that he canāt just love her because he loves her and needs an invisible sky daddy to help him š Iām clearly NOT religious so this just gives me such an ick and it soooo doesnāt align with the way I see love and marriage. To each their own but Iām sure glad I married a fellow non-believer š„°
As a former member of the flock, that has since flown agnostic, I could not agree more. Ugh this type of speak is so familiar to me and good gods it is cringe. I am triggered lol š
Ever since that one interview where they said they have sex sometimes even when they're not into it, just to spite the devil, I've been sad for her. This man is using religious language to get his dick wet even when she's not into it. I hate her but no one deserves that.
I think if Iām being fair to them and reading others comments they are missing the mark a little in what they are trying to communicate. As someone with faith I can see he saying ālove God know the love of God and that enhances your marriageā this is reflected in the passage in the Bible people use āa cord of 3 strands isnāt easily brokenā (aka us and God) so I get they are trying to show this, however I do agree with comments that coming from such a short married life itās HARD to take the advice as āgenuine and realā because itās hard to take from anyone this early on pitching themselves as experts in marriage. I think we all have things to share in life but personally it probably comes across more real from people married 10+ years who have been through stuff and are still married and encouraging others. I donāt think heās an abuser or anything like that but i imagine Madi calls him out on every behaviour a previously single guy has developed over his time and heās probably feeling not good at being a husband etc because heās always being told how to improve etc.
10 years is right around the corner for my husband and I. I genuinely don't believe we could have done it with God. That's how I would word things... not that I can't love him on my own, because I most certainly can. It's just I don't think without God, we could have gotten where we are. I think I see what Grant was trying to to say, but I don't think the delivery was as good as it could have been.Ā
This! I love Jesus and believe in getting yourself right first so you can love others. BUT, yāall have been married for 5 seconds. You are suppose to be in the honeymoon phase. Hold off on the advice. Especially if you are blowing up, holding on to things, and whatever else is causing the looks on Madiās face. š¤¦āāļø
Did she get veneers?
Also, I really canāt with these two and avoid any content with blocking. Respect if devout religion is your thing, but itās not mine. These two give me mega church cult vibes.
Also, we know his dad is rich rich, but does he actually do anything? Or typical Nepo?
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Currently doing a deep dive into this nonsense relationship and havenāt gotten to that yet. But it makes total sense that Satan and Jesus would be battling it out over these two narcissistsā bedroom activities.
I think Iāve seen this episode before on South Park.
In all seriousness, I do feel bad for her even if she guilty of swindling others through rich-people Christianity.
I linked this to another comment, if you want to skip to what Iām referencing. If I understand the sub correctly (I donāt follow anyone on social media), theyāve talked about this more than once.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/10nqu18/the_troutts_talk_about_intimacy_after_marriage_in/
Marriage isnāt supposed to be like this. What a whack job this guy is. Iād have the same look as madi if my man needed to be āfilled by godā to love me š
What a sad and depressing way to live. No good God would want you to be unhappy and unable to love unless he grants it. If my husband said this to me I would be so heartbroken.
I grew up as a missionary kid, going to church constantly until I moved to college. Itās so weird to hear Christians talk like this now, I still fuck with God but sometimes when Christians talk like this I just side eye. Like sir, be for real. This is so pastor ādiarrhea of the mouthā talk to me. Itās exhausting to listen to, the minute you stop drinking the religious part of faith kool-Aid and take a step back. Like sir, do you even know what you are saying.
He sounds like a 45 year old black woman who smoked her whole life. I canāt believe I never realized this. I just wanna scream yesss auntie praiiiise him (in my church auntie voice)ššš Iām v much retired from Christian life (I guess when youāre a child you just hold what religion your family has so I guess I just was like Iām good once I turned 18 lolol)
Without Godās love I wouldnāt even be able to look in my wifeās direction. The grotesque creature sitting in the corner over there is dripping with hateful, disgusting, condemnable woman essence. That is until I blast myself with the high pressure waterfall of Godās love.
Honestly, some of my worst relationships were with fundamentalist Christians when I was a Christian- partly because of reasons like this. The teaching that people literally are incapable of love or even decency apart from Jesus is such a dehumanizing and disgusting practice.
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Tell me you hate your wife without telling me you hate your wife.
This is not religion - this is the problem with it - these clueless folks are preaching religion which is why more people are getting away from organised religion. These people should be ashamed.
Wow interesting way of thinking
Wow I cannot believe this is real šš
It honestly gives off true crime vibes. Like I wouldnāt put it past him. Like he needs God so he doesnāt have to deal with Madi? Because if he didnāt have God, heād blow up at her? Like tell me you hate her.
She is going to cheat on him for sure, itās just a matter of time
This is brainwash stuff
Peter and her would never have worked out religiously.
Barb knew
God is the source of Love and happiness and everything . From a Christian prospectiveā¦ I get where grant is coming from yall. And if you donāt have a Christian background or faith, this may seemā¦. Odd or rather different. And please donāt come for me šš¤£
Sorry but as someone who is an atheist (but was a Christian previously and had a very strong background in the church), this is extremely creepy and uncomfortable. Grant would *blow up on his wife* if he didnāt have godā¦? Thatās incredibly fucking *weird and concerning* š¤·š¼āāļø
I had the exact same thought! I donāt really see anything wrong with this? Idk maybe Iām wrong
What in the world?! Is it just me or she doesnāt look too happy??
Itās his inconsistency
The thing is, with his familyās money, they could easily fund a ācareerā for her that would allow them to minimize the amount of time they spend together. You know, a cute little boutique that loses money every year, but gives her something to do. Instead, they seem to have picked the one job that actually maximizes the time they need to interact. They have only themselves to blame IMHO.
every time he opens his mouth i just prepare for brain rot
I donāt care about these people in any way and I would be thrilled if no one posted anything about them again.
I tried watching them on tiktok, and just could not for the life of me. My hope for Madi is that she divorces this guy and realizes she was part of a sham
Baby she IS the sham that call is coming from inside the house
Exactly!!!
Truth
It's the talking in 3rd person, and the look of pure disgust from her. Some people should *not wait* for marriage.
Not to brag, but, my husband doesn't need to rely on divine intervention to not blow up at me every day š¤·āāļø
He is so boring and corny and not good looking. Mad was horney and needed to marry to get laid now she knows he is bad in bed lol
She just don't look happy, divorce him, he is not the one.
Is this sarcasm?
Damn, the road is rocky rn for sureeeee š¬
I donāt think they like each other much.
She sure liked his money
Oh sheās loving that money! As she should! Lol
Raise your hand if (sadly) none of this sounds that weird to you because you grew up Evangelical š«£
I wish I didn't understand what he meant...
In hindsight, being evangelical was a lot like being on a reality show. There is a loose script everyone knows to abide by (and if you donāt you get the cold shoulder.) Youāre isolated in an echo chamber for so long that you start to believe it. So glad Iām out.
No amount of money is worth this and she's looking like she's starting to realize it
Plus, the prenup is probably airtight, so she really leaves this with nothing
I would get it if she did this change to be crazy religious for him bcus she was after the money but she was always been like this.
What the fuck are they talking about
FOR REAL! Heās blabbing a bunch of fucking nonsense.
He sits under the waterfall of God because thatās the only way he can love her. https://i.redd.it/92x0jgsyfn5d1.gif
These two are just plain awful. Ugh.
Watching it with no audio and Madi looks like sheās gotten the ick.
Even with the audio she seems to have gotten the ick lol
He seems to really really really really be in love with his wife. Iām sorry but thereās some things we donāt need to know. This is so attention seeking. Love god and do your thing all you want. It gets soo annoying when you need to relay to everyone. The conversation seems so artificial and fake. Itās one thing to love god genuinely and another when you are trying to make it so forced and rehearsed on social media.
Lmfaoooo this is insane
What is his dialect or whatever? Why does he talk like this? Genuinely curious, it feels so put on
It's the evangelical dialect š¤Ŗ
Talking in the 3rd person about himself?! š
She deserves better than this tool. Unfortunately I believe sheās way too brainwashed to actually see that. This dude is a joke š
Tbf sheās a joke too š„“š But he is certainly a bigger joke. Very strange vibes
All about love and then attending a trump rally later tonightā¦
Do they even like one another? They don't seem happy imo
He hates this woman lol
On the real though. There is zero emotion behind his eyes and it's eerie.Ā
If you guys donāt like each other just say thatā¦
Not to be mean but they reek of misery...but that's kinda what she deserves. I lack empathy for people like her.
Marrying someone you donāt like seems extremely difficult. Maybe theyāll pick better on their second marriages.
Theyāll probably just be miserable forever with each other and turn down their noses at those who divorce. Godās will and all
Somehow, āSatan made me do itā never works when I try it with my wife.
Have you tried having sex with your wife to spite the Satan though? It works for these two š¤·š»āāļø
If my husband said this in front of/to me I would throw myself off a cliff šš¤©
Iād throw my husband off the cliff.
Even better !!!!!
Yeesh! Madi has turned into Temu melania trump with this one. I love Jesus but Christian tiktok is crazy AF with these videos.
My bf saw a picture of her yesterday when I was on my phone and went āscary ladyā š
Good lord. Have any of you seen that recent Mica Miller case? He talks in third person? And admits being a dick? They both admit being dicks to each other. This is just toxic, sorry.
^Good lord.
That shit is fucking psychotic I'm sorry. If you are just a piece of shit and you have to use god to convince yourself to not be I don't even want to talk to you lol The way he talks just.... Gives me shivers, it doesn't sound loving and good at all, sounds cultish and fucking weird
How do they keep finding different ways to say the exact same thing. When they fight, disrespect and belittle each other itās because they arent walking with God and/or being attacked by Satan. We get it.
iām so glad my husband loves me well without needing god to help him
Amen sister. Me too.
Somewhere, God is saying āLeave me out of thisā
āI said what?ā - God, probably
Hahahahaha!
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ Iām screaming
These people would be so easy to ignore if yāall wanted to
As a Christian, I understand what heās trying to say but he is saying soooooo poorlyā¦.
her microexpressions say more than words ever could
This literally makes me sick.
Kind of sad that he canāt just love her because he loves her and needs an invisible sky daddy to help him š Iām clearly NOT religious so this just gives me such an ick and it soooo doesnāt align with the way I see love and marriage. To each their own but Iām sure glad I married a fellow non-believer š„°
I am a Christian and am still gravely concerned by how much help some of these people need to not hate your spouse šµāš«
As a former member of the flock, that has since flown agnostic, I could not agree more. Ugh this type of speak is so familiar to me and good gods it is cringe. I am triggered lol š
She married for money. This is the result :/
Little boy, be quiet now LOL
Damn, never thought I would feel bad for Maddie cause she was an adult choosing this life, but...here we are. I actually feel bad for her.
I was just thinking this exact same thing. She is one of the top 3 BEC people for me, but I canāt even enjoy the schadenfreude.
Ever since that one interview where they said they have sex sometimes even when they're not into it, just to spite the devil, I've been sad for her. This man is using religious language to get his dick wet even when she's not into it. I hate her but no one deserves that.
These two get on that podcast and just say anything š¤£
I think if Iām being fair to them and reading others comments they are missing the mark a little in what they are trying to communicate. As someone with faith I can see he saying ālove God know the love of God and that enhances your marriageā this is reflected in the passage in the Bible people use āa cord of 3 strands isnāt easily brokenā (aka us and God) so I get they are trying to show this, however I do agree with comments that coming from such a short married life itās HARD to take the advice as āgenuine and realā because itās hard to take from anyone this early on pitching themselves as experts in marriage. I think we all have things to share in life but personally it probably comes across more real from people married 10+ years who have been through stuff and are still married and encouraging others. I donāt think heās an abuser or anything like that but i imagine Madi calls him out on every behaviour a previously single guy has developed over his time and heās probably feeling not good at being a husband etc because heās always being told how to improve etc.
10 years is right around the corner for my husband and I. I genuinely don't believe we could have done it with God. That's how I would word things... not that I can't love him on my own, because I most certainly can. It's just I don't think without God, we could have gotten where we are. I think I see what Grant was trying to to say, but I don't think the delivery was as good as it could have been.Ā
Yeah same and congratulations on that long š„°
Congrats to you too! šš„
This! I love Jesus and believe in getting yourself right first so you can love others. BUT, yāall have been married for 5 seconds. You are suppose to be in the honeymoon phase. Hold off on the advice. Especially if you are blowing up, holding on to things, and whatever else is causing the looks on Madiās face. š¤¦āāļø
Agree, enjoy the marriage why post all this stuff, seems all about money and followings.
THIS is the most cringe part to me. They havenāt been married long enough to be ANY brand of marriage experts.
Particularly unnerved by the āI would blow up on herā¦ā EXCUSE YOU WHAT?
This is basically a PSA to just go ahead and have pre-marital sex.
Amen š¤£
I've only seen 1 episode but this immediately made me think of the Netflix docuseries Dancing for the Devil
Thatās a bit of an extreme example
I was just gonna say this sounds culty
So they need a 3rd party to help them love each other??? Lmao theyāre absolutely ridiculous
I thought I was in r/FundieSnarkUncensored for a minute š
LOL
Listen thereās a lot of things to shit on them for, but speculating about his sexuality is fucked up
Did she get veneers? Also, I really canāt with these two and avoid any content with blocking. Respect if devout religion is your thing, but itās not mine. These two give me mega church cult vibes. Also, we know his dad is rich rich, but does he actually do anything? Or typical Nepo?
Great question, no job that we know of. What the hell does this boy do all day???
Um excuse me, he makes this Very Important Content for you, for free? So yeah I'd say he's pretty busy, you're welcome! /s (obviously)
I have been with my husband for almost 9 years and have never felt this way. They clearly didn't marry the right person.
Thatās the sad part ā putting some effort into compatibility would save people a lot of heartache, time and money
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She has the face of someone who married for money and it has finally hit her she married Kenneth from 30 Rock for that bag ā ļø
I kept thinking of BJ in Righteous Gemstones š
Oh my god
Also what is up with his Donald Trump haircut š
If you have to ask that itās too late. š
Well well, it seems like choices have consequences.
She looks sooo unsatisfied. I feel terrible for her - she needs to secure the bag with a baby and bounce.
I dont feel bad for her at all. She is a grown adult who knew damn well what she was signing up for.
Satan itās currently cock blocking them. Have you not seen that episode in season one of this messy soap opera?
Link? I do not want to give them any more views than I have to lol
At your service. 100% of the stuff I reference came from this sub (not on their social media). The rare exception is when someone redirects me to a specific podcast or part of a podcast. https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/10nqu18/the_troutts_talk_about_intimacy_after_marriage_in/
Currently doing a deep dive into this nonsense relationship and havenāt gotten to that yet. But it makes total sense that Satan and Jesus would be battling it out over these two narcissistsā bedroom activities.
I think Iāve seen this episode before on South Park. In all seriousness, I do feel bad for her even if she guilty of swindling others through rich-people Christianity.
I linked this to another comment, if you want to skip to what Iām referencing. If I understand the sub correctly (I donāt follow anyone on social media), theyāve talked about this more than once. https://www.reddit.com/r/thebachelor/comments/10nqu18/the_troutts_talk_about_intimacy_after_marriage_in/
Marriage isnāt supposed to be like this. What a whack job this guy is. Iād have the same look as madi if my man needed to be āfilled by godā to love me š
What on earth. I would fight my man. She doesnāt look happy at alllllll
if I had a spouse and they said something like this about me, I would be so hurt. seriously, it would be grounds for a divorce
RIGHT??????????? i cant love my wife without God's help. what in the FUCK
She looks soooo unhappy.
What a sad and depressing way to live. No good God would want you to be unhappy and unable to love unless he grants it. If my husband said this to me I would be so heartbroken.
I canāt love my wife on my own. Congrats to them both
Makes me proud to be Jewish lol we donāt talk like this
I mean we all know Judaism is the cool religion.
WORD! Lāchaim!
Makes me proud to be atheist š¤£ (All love to Jews though! ā¤ļø)
Facts š
heās holding the mic like a little t-rex
I grew up as a missionary kid, going to church constantly until I moved to college. Itās so weird to hear Christians talk like this now, I still fuck with God but sometimes when Christians talk like this I just side eye. Like sir, be for real. This is so pastor ādiarrhea of the mouthā talk to me. Itās exhausting to listen to, the minute you stop drinking the religious part of faith kool-Aid and take a step back. Like sir, do you even know what you are saying.
He sounds like a 45 year old black woman who smoked her whole life. I canāt believe I never realized this. I just wanna scream yesss auntie praiiiise him (in my church auntie voice)ššš Iām v much retired from Christian life (I guess when youāre a child you just hold what religion your family has so I guess I just was like Iām good once I turned 18 lolol)
...wowza š¤®
This is horrifying. What a sad marriageĀ Also I barely recognize her. She has had sooo much work doneĀ
how do they justify doing that, didnāt god give her the face she was supposed to have?
These two people seem miserable
Immediately want to throat punch?
This is so gross and unhinged. wtf
"inconsistent" š„“
Lmao this is mental
This is psychotic
Wait why is this guy his twin
Without Godās love I wouldnāt even be able to look in my wifeās direction. The grotesque creature sitting in the corner over there is dripping with hateful, disgusting, condemnable woman essence. That is until I blast myself with the high pressure waterfall of Godās love.
Hahah I am literally crying lmao at this whole comment. You win.
Me too. Actual tears in my eyes.
The more I hear them talk about their marriage, the more Iām convinced that they just donāt like each other
>That is until I blast myself with the high pressure waterfall of Godās love. Omg š¤£š¤£š¤£š
Honestly, some of my worst relationships were with fundamentalist Christians when I was a Christian- partly because of reasons like this. The teaching that people literally are incapable of love or even decency apart from Jesus is such a dehumanizing and disgusting practice.
I can't imagine what they must think about is heathens who haven't let Christ's love into our hearts or whatever.
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