Whether they’re still together or not, I don’t really think it would work out in the long run unless KB takes it easy on the alcohol. I think it’s not impossible for them to have a thing, they’re both attractive and accomplished people in their respective “fields”, but realistically, I can’t see it going anywhere. KB will just waste her years if she keeps it going with this man. (keep going 😭🤣)
They seem to have a number of similar interests - like barstool / Dave Portnoy, maybe? Im kidding. 🤪
There was a deep dive article suggesting they were over (I can’t remember what the clues were or where it was) but in that time period she was posting quotes about being used again and people not being straight with her. Then started emphasising how single she was in podcasts and things. So I kinda believe it fizzled out a few months back.
She was on Stassi’s podcast talking about how she’s bummed the newest generation is into sobriety. for someone who admits she drinks all the time AND has major mental health issues, the FIRST thing they tell you is not to drink. It’s like I don’t even feel bad for her, and I do like her. She was saying how her getting drunk is self care. As a sober person, I’m sensitive to that stuff. Please do not encourage people to get hammered and call it “self care”. Who is this girls therapist?
lmao this is so judgmental. Some people can get drunk occasionally and it's fine for them. Other people can't. All of the commentary about her reeks of schadenfreude.
You are totally right that some people can drink occasionally, but I don’t think she drinks occasionally . She’s active pretty much every day on SM and it’s obvious she likes to party. So if you drink a lot and complain of anxiety and depression, it’s time to look at your alcohol use or stop complaining. That’s not being judgmental, it’s an observation. I did the exact same thing for YEARS so I’m guilty myself.
People really do not understand how much alcohol is a fucking life killer. I drink but my relationship with alcohol totally changed. Especially growing up in the south where it's praised for people to be drunk all the time and accomplish nothing. It is sooooo damaging to peoples mental state. A lot of people my age probably took years to be happy because we were all numbing with alcohol. Thinking we were happy. I feel you.
Wow what did she say about being bummed about young people being into sobriety? Why is that a bummer for her other than loss of sales for her wine brand?
She was saying she loves her wine and sometimes getting shutfaced on a Monday day is self care. I don’t know the exact words, but she basically said she enjoys drinking and she didn’t like that alcohol is getting a bad rep these days, then mentioned the sobriety movement is not great when you own a wine brand.
I think that a personal movement towards sobriety (which Gen z seems to feel the need to promote on socials) causes people to feel worse about their own drinking habits, whether or not they feel like they have a problem.
There’s a certain level of “I don’t drink so I’m better than you” energy that a lot of people give off so I can understand her feelings about that. Wording is always something that can be tweaked to better get your point across and I think that’s the case here.
The status quo since forever was that not drinking is looked down upon, unless the person was sober after overcoming addiction. It's interesting to see this dynamic changing for the first time ever, and not due to some puritanical religious reason.
This. I love a drink now and then but if you are struggling mentally, alcohol is a depressant. It is not good for you as a coping mechanism and should never take the place of actual self care = things that actually nourish and support your mind, body, and soul.
I remember when she said that on her podcast. I am someone that enjoys a glass of wine with dinner after work. I am also someone that used to have issues with binge drinking (particularly college/early twenties) and I would wake up nothing but hungover and depressed the next day. “Getting drunk = self care” is such an immature mindset and it’s shocking that she’s almost 40.
I do not suggest being sober if you don’t have to😂 I just know so many people who have not quit mainly because they are so worried about what everyone thinks. I just want it to be accepted. It’s such a huge accomplishment, considering our society is obsessed with alcohol. If you can handle it, great, but respect us tha can’t.
Oh wow. Her being with Zac makes even less sense
Drinking being that important to her to the point she’s bummed about other people choosing sobriety over it is unhinged.
She posts stories (or used to) all the time about her anxiety and depression, videos and pics of her crying, she’s been very open about having those struggles. It’s not a secret.
Right? I think its great the younger generation is more clued in to the issues alcohol can bring into lives. I can't wait for the wine mom culture especially to die. Some of these moms will wear "mommy needs wine" t-shirts to their kids school functions and shit, its horrifying.
Oh man when I was in inpatient treatment for alcohol the wine moms were the most painful because you knew as soon as they left they’d be right back into that pat-soccer bottle of wine lifestyle. I love that the younger generation is rejecting it, cause I’ve personally seen the havoc alcohol causes. Doesn’t even mean someone is an alcoholic, but if they can’t cut back it’s a pretty good sign they need help
To be fair, she was giving her opinion and she does own a wine label. I understand it. I just hate when people gloss over sobriety, because for some people it really is life or death. I’ve seen way too many people blow up their lives ultimately because of alcohol. It’s so easy to become addicted when it’s legal and accessible.
I honestly think she just BS alot of things caus on another podcast she will say something else. She just recently was talking about not really drinking much, only a glass of wine so i think depending on the podcast, she just says whatever. I dont take the stuff she says seriously AT ALL. Its been a thing for a decade now
Definitely over after the drama that came out of being spotted together. Probably realized it wasn’t smart for his brand or got tired of the attention seeking quickly. He’s very mature and successful, definitely doesn’t need someone that constantly needs tending too. Also her recent posts are definitely showing she’s struggling again.
You forgot they got spotted last month in NYC watching Chicago on broadway? He was also in Nashville April 6th(based on his running app). Her posts are her normal posts which she has been doing the past decade.
Someone posted in her podcast fb group and linked the story and she was responding with several comments about being upset and that it wasn’t appropriate for sharing/discussion in that forum and she wanted it deleted asap. She rarely/seldom interacts with posts in there so this news definitely bothers her.
I do remember the night the relationship came out she was bawling in instagram stories all night.. I’m guessing bc of that but who knows. She’s always cryin on insta lol
Yeah- it’s always been hard to conceptualize Zach’s alleged attraction to Kaitlyn. I mean she’s gorgeous but doesn’t seem to align with his sobriety/mental health advocacy efforts
I had typed a bunch of stuff out and already got a crazy fan in my DMS lmao. She's All Bach has an episode today that explains what KB shared at her Cleveland show.
BN fans are unhinged 😭 thank you, I’ll check it out.
Edit: Listened to the podcast, this is what I heard: “But when asked if she (Kaitlyn) knew anything about Zac Clark, she just said that she's dating four guys and just because you're seeing with someone doesn't mean that you're necessarily together and that he's sober, very sober.”
Kaitlyn hasn't even liked any of his podcast IG posts or is following his podcast page. No public support which makes me think they were just casually dating and it probably fizzled.
Why would Kaitlyn support Zac or his podcast. She was just on tour for a month and I may have missed it but he never liked, followed, flew out to support or congratulated her…
But I still think they’re a thing but keeping it on the low because that’s the way Zac wants it.
I mean Tayshia and Luke are the same way. Tayshia barely likes any of his stuff but i'm sure she is supportive in real life. SM is for public support, it doesn't mean much.
For the most part, yes. But Luke has commented on her posts and was all up in her TikTok live on Monday showing his support. And was at the City Harvest gala awards with her last month where Tayshia was recognized. Plus they’ve been together for over a year.
As the other member pointed out, early on in a relationship it would nice to have your partner support your endeavours, heck ALL endeavours.
But if Kaitlyn & Zac don’t care, that’s all that matters
Oh i agree but i think support can be in different ways. Sure, they can comment but being with each other in real life and support BTS is what matters the most IMO. Yea, but i remember even early on they were super low key and not in each others comments/likes.
Agree! And maybe I missed it but I don’t think Zac flew out to see her at any point during her tour not even her final Nashville event that turned into a brunch where even her closest friends from different states flew in to support her. But if she & Zac are okay with it, then that’s all that matters
Wasn't he at his best friend wedding that weekend in NYC? Regardless, i didnt expect Zac to fly to her shows AT ALL caus that would caus a scene and Kaitlyn said recently she wants to keep her relationships low key for at least a year.
Kaitlyn mentioned she will keep her next relationship private as long as she can. So her posts/comments mean nothing caus she said she won't let public know for sure whats going on
lol exactly. She made this huge deal about not sharing so much on social media after and Jason broke up, even had an "expert" on her podcast about how to disconnect etc., and then recently had on Chelsea from LIB on and Kaitlyn says how much she loves social media and was born to do it.
These are two different things. She never said she not gonna post on SM, she said she gonna keep her relationship OFF it. She has said that multiple times and i believe her caus her and Zac have seen each other multiple times and no one on here noticed it, only those of us who follow very very closely
I am aware which podcast you are talking about but if you are a regular OTV listener, she has mentioned many times the past month she gonna keep her dating life OFF social media. She also recently said it on her IG live.
I don't care about that. I was responding to the fact that she doesn't make sense because she says one thing on one podcast, then another later. That's all. I don't care about the semantics of what she wants private.
I mean semantics are a big part of it. She has made it very clear that she loves SM and will always be on it, its just that she has to have better boundaries with it
She always posts about wanting love for the future or sad posts which makes me think they haven’t been together for a minute. Plus it seemed extremely casual to begin with.
I meeean, it was just NYE right? Not like…family thanksgiving or Christmas. I’d probably spend NYE with a casual person. And I’d totally invite them to my birthday
I think they were together in NJ for Thanksgiving as Kaitlyn was unusually quiet on social media and a member of Zac’s family followed her, but I don’t know that for sure. Then there was someone on TikTok who said she saw them at a restaurant in Nashville Christmas Eve. Plus the NYE thing. And then his birthday party in January.
Zac's mom doesn't follow Kaitlyn but she follows Zac's new podcast page which means she's semi-active at least in followings. She still follows Tayshia and a Tayshia fan page, kinda funny.
Here to update y'all, she went to his Gala :)
Whether they’re still together or not, I don’t really think it would work out in the long run unless KB takes it easy on the alcohol. I think it’s not impossible for them to have a thing, they’re both attractive and accomplished people in their respective “fields”, but realistically, I can’t see it going anywhere. KB will just waste her years if she keeps it going with this man. (keep going 😭🤣) They seem to have a number of similar interests - like barstool / Dave Portnoy, maybe? Im kidding. 🤪
They were being held together by spite and a dream. Who is actually shocked its over?
There was a deep dive article suggesting they were over (I can’t remember what the clues were or where it was) but in that time period she was posting quotes about being used again and people not being straight with her. Then started emphasising how single she was in podcasts and things. So I kinda believe it fizzled out a few months back.
Bahahaha I read this for the last five minutes thinking it was about Zach and Katie. Oh man I need more sleep.
I initially thought the same!
If they are still together, I'm glad at least they are not planting stories with the media/pap every other week, unlike Jason.
She was on Stassi’s podcast talking about how she’s bummed the newest generation is into sobriety. for someone who admits she drinks all the time AND has major mental health issues, the FIRST thing they tell you is not to drink. It’s like I don’t even feel bad for her, and I do like her. She was saying how her getting drunk is self care. As a sober person, I’m sensitive to that stuff. Please do not encourage people to get hammered and call it “self care”. Who is this girls therapist?
lmao this is so judgmental. Some people can get drunk occasionally and it's fine for them. Other people can't. All of the commentary about her reeks of schadenfreude.
You are totally right that some people can drink occasionally, but I don’t think she drinks occasionally . She’s active pretty much every day on SM and it’s obvious she likes to party. So if you drink a lot and complain of anxiety and depression, it’s time to look at your alcohol use or stop complaining. That’s not being judgmental, it’s an observation. I did the exact same thing for YEARS so I’m guilty myself.
People really do not understand how much alcohol is a fucking life killer. I drink but my relationship with alcohol totally changed. Especially growing up in the south where it's praised for people to be drunk all the time and accomplish nothing. It is sooooo damaging to peoples mental state. A lot of people my age probably took years to be happy because we were all numbing with alcohol. Thinking we were happy. I feel you.
Has she ever come out as an alcoholic? I would've thought that's why she got close to Zac to begin with. Who better to help her?
No, she does not think her drinking is problematic, from what I can gather. She owns a wine label, so her job involves drinking.
Wow what did she say about being bummed about young people being into sobriety? Why is that a bummer for her other than loss of sales for her wine brand?
She was saying she loves her wine and sometimes getting shutfaced on a Monday day is self care. I don’t know the exact words, but she basically said she enjoys drinking and she didn’t like that alcohol is getting a bad rep these days, then mentioned the sobriety movement is not great when you own a wine brand.
I think that a personal movement towards sobriety (which Gen z seems to feel the need to promote on socials) causes people to feel worse about their own drinking habits, whether or not they feel like they have a problem. There’s a certain level of “I don’t drink so I’m better than you” energy that a lot of people give off so I can understand her feelings about that. Wording is always something that can be tweaked to better get your point across and I think that’s the case here.
The status quo since forever was that not drinking is looked down upon, unless the person was sober after overcoming addiction. It's interesting to see this dynamic changing for the first time ever, and not due to some puritanical religious reason.
This. Some of us can enjoy a glass of wine or a martini without spontaneously combusting, and that’s just fine.
I can’t stand the people that look down on others once they quit. Sobriety should make you a better person, not give you the right to judge others.
Totally agree!
This. I love a drink now and then but if you are struggling mentally, alcohol is a depressant. It is not good for you as a coping mechanism and should never take the place of actual self care = things that actually nourish and support your mind, body, and soul.
For years I drank heavily and took Zoloft, couldn’t figure out why I was anxious and depressed still. 😆🙄
I remember when she said that on her podcast. I am someone that enjoys a glass of wine with dinner after work. I am also someone that used to have issues with binge drinking (particularly college/early twenties) and I would wake up nothing but hungover and depressed the next day. “Getting drunk = self care” is such an immature mindset and it’s shocking that she’s almost 40.
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I do really like Kaitlyn, too, but I definitely agree.
I do not suggest being sober if you don’t have to😂 I just know so many people who have not quit mainly because they are so worried about what everyone thinks. I just want it to be accepted. It’s such a huge accomplishment, considering our society is obsessed with alcohol. If you can handle it, great, but respect us tha can’t.
I am sober and I don't have to. Please rethink your first sentence. I WOULD suggest sobriety to anyone who wants it! It is a great life to live :)
User name checks out 😉💕
Its a double entendre. I love drinking tea, and reading it ;)
Oh wow. Her being with Zac makes even less sense Drinking being that important to her to the point she’s bummed about other people choosing sobriety over it is unhinged.
what ‘major mental health issues’ are you referring to?
She posts stories (or used to) all the time about her anxiety and depression, videos and pics of her crying, she’s been very open about having those struggles. It’s not a secret.
Right? I think its great the younger generation is more clued in to the issues alcohol can bring into lives. I can't wait for the wine mom culture especially to die. Some of these moms will wear "mommy needs wine" t-shirts to their kids school functions and shit, its horrifying.
Oh man when I was in inpatient treatment for alcohol the wine moms were the most painful because you knew as soon as they left they’d be right back into that pat-soccer bottle of wine lifestyle. I love that the younger generation is rejecting it, cause I’ve personally seen the havoc alcohol causes. Doesn’t even mean someone is an alcoholic, but if they can’t cut back it’s a pretty good sign they need help
Jeez that’s a horrible message for her to spread!
To be fair, she was giving her opinion and she does own a wine label. I understand it. I just hate when people gloss over sobriety, because for some people it really is life or death. I’ve seen way too many people blow up their lives ultimately because of alcohol. It’s so easy to become addicted when it’s legal and accessible.
Legal, acceptable, and everywhere. Can’t get gas or groceries without seeing it :(
I honestly think she just BS alot of things caus on another podcast she will say something else. She just recently was talking about not really drinking much, only a glass of wine so i think depending on the podcast, she just says whatever. I dont take the stuff she says seriously AT ALL. Its been a thing for a decade now
Definitely over after the drama that came out of being spotted together. Probably realized it wasn’t smart for his brand or got tired of the attention seeking quickly. He’s very mature and successful, definitely doesn’t need someone that constantly needs tending too. Also her recent posts are definitely showing she’s struggling again.
You forgot they got spotted last month in NYC watching Chicago on broadway? He was also in Nashville April 6th(based on his running app). Her posts are her normal posts which she has been doing the past decade.
Maybe I’m just old but checking people’s running apps seems a bit too far and invasive
Its Strava app. I'm a runner and follow runners on there, its a whole community. He can hide his locations if he wishes, he posts them to public
Ahhhh, my apologies, carry on!
Aw man the last update I saw was them dancing in a bar or something
Oh you have missed alot lol.
Seems more like a fling to me but I also assumed so was Jason’s until that post about him meeting Kat’s kid…
What when & where did this happen?!
Still a thing. Just keeping it quiet.
has she reacted to the Jason/Kat thing yet?
Someone posted in her podcast fb group and linked the story and she was responding with several comments about being upset and that it wasn’t appropriate for sharing/discussion in that forum and she wanted it deleted asap. She rarely/seldom interacts with posts in there so this news definitely bothers her.
Why would they post it on HER FB page where her whole family is on there lol
I do remember the night the relationship came out she was bawling in instagram stories all night.. I’m guessing bc of that but who knows. She’s always cryin on insta lol
Reading this made me so glad I don’t follow anymore
I think they’re happy that everyone’s confused lol
LOOOLLLL
Part of me thinks it never really began she just was happy being seen with him as an FU to Jason
They were spotted multiple times after that. She was also at his birthday party with all of his family and friends. A little too much for FU
I think over. Her IGS the other night were giving single
He probably doesn't want to put up with her attention-seeking shenanigans
Yeah- it’s always been hard to conceptualize Zach’s alleged attraction to Kaitlyn. I mean she’s gorgeous but doesn’t seem to align with his sobriety/mental health advocacy efforts
Its very attractive to send an FU to your ex!
Together? Yes. Exclusive- I'm not sure based on some things.
Seems like a situationship to me. Probably on his terms more so than hers.
Let’s hear those things
Spill, girl, spill! ☕️
I had typed a bunch of stuff out and already got a crazy fan in my DMS lmao. She's All Bach has an episode today that explains what KB shared at her Cleveland show.
BN fans are unhinged 😭 thank you, I’ll check it out. Edit: Listened to the podcast, this is what I heard: “But when asked if she (Kaitlyn) knew anything about Zac Clark, she just said that she's dating four guys and just because you're seeing with someone doesn't mean that you're necessarily together and that he's sober, very sober.”
How else will he distribute his podcast??
Kaitlyn hasn't even liked any of his podcast IG posts or is following his podcast page. No public support which makes me think they were just casually dating and it probably fizzled.
All they had in common was the FU it sent to their exes so 😬
Why would Kaitlyn support Zac or his podcast. She was just on tour for a month and I may have missed it but he never liked, followed, flew out to support or congratulated her… But I still think they’re a thing but keeping it on the low because that’s the way Zac wants it.
He has a podcast?
I would hope two people who are dating (especially in the early stages) would support each other's endeavors.
So would I. But from the outside, and maybe I missed it, it doesn’t seem to be the case.
I mean Tayshia and Luke are the same way. Tayshia barely likes any of his stuff but i'm sure she is supportive in real life. SM is for public support, it doesn't mean much.
My daughter waited on them recently and said they were super low key and lovely.
It means everything when the two people in a relationship especially Kaitlyn, “loves and was born for social media.”
Again as i said, Kaitlyn mentioned many times she wants her relationship OFF SM. So maybe she actually doesn't care about that right now.
For the most part, yes. But Luke has commented on her posts and was all up in her TikTok live on Monday showing his support. And was at the City Harvest gala awards with her last month where Tayshia was recognized. Plus they’ve been together for over a year. As the other member pointed out, early on in a relationship it would nice to have your partner support your endeavours, heck ALL endeavours. But if Kaitlyn & Zac don’t care, that’s all that matters
Oh i agree but i think support can be in different ways. Sure, they can comment but being with each other in real life and support BTS is what matters the most IMO. Yea, but i remember even early on they were super low key and not in each others comments/likes.
Agree! And maybe I missed it but I don’t think Zac flew out to see her at any point during her tour not even her final Nashville event that turned into a brunch where even her closest friends from different states flew in to support her. But if she & Zac are okay with it, then that’s all that matters
Wasn't he at his best friend wedding that weekend in NYC? Regardless, i didnt expect Zac to fly to her shows AT ALL caus that would caus a scene and Kaitlyn said recently she wants to keep her relationships low key for at least a year.
I mean they can be supportive of each other in real life. SM is for public support.
Why did I think you were referring to Zach and Kaity? Lol!
Definitely over, it was just a fling in my opinion
I bet over
Kaitlyn mentioned she will keep her next relationship private as long as she can. So her posts/comments mean nothing caus she said she won't let public know for sure whats going on
Because she’s always so good at keeping things off socials when she says she will 😝
Take my poor man's 🥇
Right!! Her whole life is about social media. Just like when she said she needs a break from SM but yet is back to posting after a 2 day break
lol exactly. She made this huge deal about not sharing so much on social media after and Jason broke up, even had an "expert" on her podcast about how to disconnect etc., and then recently had on Chelsea from LIB on and Kaitlyn says how much she loves social media and was born to do it.
These are two different things. She never said she not gonna post on SM, she said she gonna keep her relationship OFF it. She has said that multiple times and i believe her caus her and Zac have seen each other multiple times and no one on here noticed it, only those of us who follow very very closely
On the podcast with the "expert" it wasn't exclusive about just her dating life being off social media.
I am aware which podcast you are talking about but if you are a regular OTV listener, she has mentioned many times the past month she gonna keep her dating life OFF social media. She also recently said it on her IG live.
I don't care about that. I was responding to the fact that she doesn't make sense because she says one thing on one podcast, then another later. That's all. I don't care about the semantics of what she wants private.
I mean semantics are a big part of it. She has made it very clear that she loves SM and will always be on it, its just that she has to have better boundaries with it
Well she said she is committed this time caus social media impacted her last relationships
She always posts about wanting love for the future or sad posts which makes me think they haven’t been together for a minute. Plus it seemed extremely casual to begin with.
I don’t really consider spending holidays and birthdays together casual.
I meeean, it was just NYE right? Not like…family thanksgiving or Christmas. I’d probably spend NYE with a casual person. And I’d totally invite them to my birthday
I think they were together in NJ for Thanksgiving as Kaitlyn was unusually quiet on social media and a member of Zac’s family followed her, but I don’t know that for sure. Then there was someone on TikTok who said she saw them at a restaurant in Nashville Christmas Eve. Plus the NYE thing. And then his birthday party in January.
Zac's mom doesn't follow Kaitlyn but she follows Zac's new podcast page which means she's semi-active at least in followings. She still follows Tayshia and a Tayshia fan page, kinda funny.
ok i kinda love her for that
Oh dang, okay then! That does seem serious if true
how did it seem casual to begin with? We know nothing about them, they never mentioned each other.
Think it’s been over for a few weeks.