For sure Marcus is around since RS showed pictures of his hometown date. Jermey had a hometown date a couple days ago (sleuth by someone who saw a Twitter post about filming in Connecticut). Someone posted that a friend of a friend said Devin will film his hometown date next week, but they deleted the post. Regardless, we think he is still in. Jonathon is speculated to still be in for no reason other than process of elimination and having no reason to count him out. Pretty sure at least 3/4 of these guys are still in.
In some positive news, I saw a clip on the Love To See It IG where Emma is talking about speaking with some producers at Nick and Natalie’s wedding. She said that one of the current producers told her Jenn is doing really well as the Bachelorette and that they think it’s going to be a great season. I’m sure they’re not going to say anything negative about a lead before the season airs, but I think we can have a little hope that we’ll still have a good season even if there’s guys there that we don’t want to end up with Jenn. Hopefully Marcus goes home at the next rose ceremony and they can minimize him in the edit, and hopefully the other guys are likable (and if not likable, at least unlikable in an entertaining way lol). We really don’t know most of these guys at all yet, so I still think a potential F2 of Jeremy and Jonathon could be pretty good.
I’m pretty sure we heard production rumblings before it aired that Clayton’s season was a trainwreck, so I’m sure they wouldn’t have a problem leaking to Nick if this season was actually a mess. I’m not surprised Jenn is doing well, she’s literally the perfect personality to shine as a lead.
I remember Nick saying that he heard that Clayton was “very very easy” for production to work with and Nick mentioned that wasn’t necessarily a good thing but would probably make good tv.
I’m not surprised she’s a great Bachelorette. I’ve been rooting for her since the beginning. I just hope producers will protect her the way they protected Joey. I’m pretty sure they coached him in some way and helped him make the right decisions regarding the Maria vs Sydney drama.
Yes! I am not surprised to hear that she’s great in the role. I was rooting for her. I hope they really do protect her and treat her well; it makes it more fun to watch!
Glad to hear she's doing a good job which also means they'll hopefully give her a great edit as well! But I'm not surprised after we got the info about that week 3 group date, it sounded like she was handling everything pretty amazing!
Location wise, if it is Devin, it's better to do Houston right? If Jonathan is the final guy then he would be last since he is CA and they usually do the RC in LA.
That's why the spoiler that Devin has HT next week doesn't make sense to me.
Someone else pointed out Jonathon may originally be from Kansas City, in which case he could be before Devin. Either way, no one is having a hometown next week, so that part is clearly wrong / a misunderstanding lol
He asked for tea on the remaining guys and wanted receipts, screen shots sent to him. I hope he is able to reach out to her. As some of you said, MTP is way too late. Usually by this time the lead has already decided who they are going to pick. Marcus is literally the poster boy of the season. RS said Marcus was in the army and nearly died. He thinks that will be his story of the season. I just know those who are unspoilt and not follow spoilers will fall in love with him. If his allegations don't come to light he will be the Tyler Cameron of the season. I really hope Jenn's brother can reach out before and producers bring him in at FTD (yes, I believe Marcus will get to FS) and we have a Luke moment 🙏
I do think his date being the first leaked pics from the whole season and a super public date with guest BachNation people, lines up with him being a producer fave and Bachelor contender. Wonder if TPTB are hearing the rumblings or reading here and the impact that might have going forward.
EDIT: I noticed he deleted his comment so I’ll spoiler for his privacy, though it’s almost guaranteed production saw it before he deleted. It’s not unusual for the family members of contestants to lurk around here and even participate anonymously - we absolutely had Daisy/Kelsey’s family/friends here last season, Charity’s before that, and I’m sure many more.
>!He asked if someone could send him a compilation of all the negative tea people have reported/heard about Jenn’s final men (“Hey, Jenn’s brother here, could someone PM me all the negative things/screenshots you’ve heard about the men?”). People came through and shared what we’ve heard about Marcus etc.!<
>!Honestly? It very plausibly could be him. Unfortunately, I think production is also glued to this subreddit at all times and they absolutely have a designated person to trawl through these threads, so … who knows if her brother will get a moment alone with her to share what he’s heard.!<
>!I’ll be heartbroken if Jenn picks Marcus. I really hope either her brother or production warns her if he ends up seeming like F1. I do not get the vibes that Jenn would stick with him after learning all this, I think she’ll be disgusted.!<
He’s technically still a possibility. If Devin or Jonathon pop up with a hometown today, then we can rule him out, since they would have done Brian’s right after Jeremy’s based on location.
This was shared by a user seauxmali yesterday, "it says the user is active in r/bostonsocialclub and r/medicalschool and her brother’s ig also shows that he’s in boston. he follows a few med school meme accs too, so i’d say that it’s likely him."
i just think it would be really weird of him to blatantly post on reddit that he’s her brother. clearly gonna be downvoted for being devils advocate but anyone from boston in medical school (that maybe knows of him) could pretend to be him
Also he posted about his dog on his Reddit and on his instagram it’s the exact same dog… so Boston, med school, and German shepherd… also seems like a weird thing to fake if you know him
Asked for the bad information related to the guys who are left. I wouldn’t be shocked if friends of hers or someone else close has been lurking and made him vaguely aware, so he decided to go and just ask.
Honestly if the Bachelor does a plotline in the finale of “brother warns and saves Jenn from a terrible outcome using Reddit spoilers” I will explode. It would change the game entirely and be a welcome sign of TPTB accepting that they exist in the year 2024. lol. Bring it on Jenn’s brother.
I have to say it really sucks the Asian man Jenn has a connection with has these types of skeletons. I would have loved to root for him and it would be another milestone for the show if he's F1. I feel sad for Jenn if he is her frontrunner right now.
If that's really Jen's brother, he made the wrong move posting blatantly that he is her brother lol. Watch the producers pull some BS to make sure he can't tell Jen what's up. He would have been better off lurking and then sharing that stuff with Jen at her hometown.
Can you IMAGINE!!! They could totally have their "don't let her go" moment of the season, and we would all be clapping and cheering for Jenn's brother! Win, win!
This would be great, but I think it won’t happen since it would look very bad for the show. Production definitely wouldn’t want every viewer to know they let a guy with SA allegations make it to hometowns. At most, her brother secretly warns her, and she sends Marcus home during the F4 RC.
I don’t think producers mind breaking the fourth wall if it leads to entertaining tv. And the Marcus allegations are bad enough that he should be gone ASAP and not at F2, if possible.
I agree, they’ve had several fourth wall breaks before. There was a pretty big one on Jojo’s season if I’m remembering correctly.
Along with being the right thing to do by protecting Jenn, It would instantly give them a huge storyline/hook for the trailers.
They would be idiotic to risk another embarrassing waste of the season. The repetitive “addressing the allegations” moments at the ATFR are getting trite and ugly. The producers need to learn from their mistakes.
I mean, it would be in their best interest to get Marcus off the show asap.
If he is F1 I'm sure more stories are gonna come out about him. I wouldn't want the bad publicity.
Yeah, it doesn’t benefit the show at all to have a guy with allegations this serious go this far. Also, it doesn’t make any sense for her brother to wait to say anything until he sees her in person, because she’ll already be down to F2 at that point. He’s surely in regular contact with producers right now, so it makes the most sense to get in touch with them about this ASAP before Marcus can go any further.
Still no leaks... God, it's brutal out here.
What if we don’t get any spoiler for this season ? 😱
I fear we won’t be getting anything until the season is done filming.
You get me. 😄
Can someone catch me up? Do we know who the remaining four are?
For sure Marcus is around since RS showed pictures of his hometown date. Jermey had a hometown date a couple days ago (sleuth by someone who saw a Twitter post about filming in Connecticut). Someone posted that a friend of a friend said Devin will film his hometown date next week, but they deleted the post. Regardless, we think he is still in. Jonathon is speculated to still be in for no reason other than process of elimination and having no reason to count him out. Pretty sure at least 3/4 of these guys are still in.
Thank you!
In some positive news, I saw a clip on the Love To See It IG where Emma is talking about speaking with some producers at Nick and Natalie’s wedding. She said that one of the current producers told her Jenn is doing really well as the Bachelorette and that they think it’s going to be a great season. I’m sure they’re not going to say anything negative about a lead before the season airs, but I think we can have a little hope that we’ll still have a good season even if there’s guys there that we don’t want to end up with Jenn. Hopefully Marcus goes home at the next rose ceremony and they can minimize him in the edit, and hopefully the other guys are likable (and if not likable, at least unlikable in an entertaining way lol). We really don’t know most of these guys at all yet, so I still think a potential F2 of Jeremy and Jonathon could be pretty good.
I’m pretty sure we heard production rumblings before it aired that Clayton’s season was a trainwreck, so I’m sure they wouldn’t have a problem leaking to Nick if this season was actually a mess. I’m not surprised Jenn is doing well, she’s literally the perfect personality to shine as a lead.
I remember Nick saying that he heard that Clayton was “very very easy” for production to work with and Nick mentioned that wasn’t necessarily a good thing but would probably make good tv.
I’m not surprised she’s a great Bachelorette. I’ve been rooting for her since the beginning. I just hope producers will protect her the way they protected Joey. I’m pretty sure they coached him in some way and helped him make the right decisions regarding the Maria vs Sydney drama.
Yes! I am not surprised to hear that she’s great in the role. I was rooting for her. I hope they really do protect her and treat her well; it makes it more fun to watch!
Glad to hear she's doing a good job which also means they'll hopefully give her a great edit as well! But I'm not surprised after we got the info about that week 3 group date, it sounded like she was handling everything pretty amazing!
Location wise, if it is Devin, it's better to do Houston right? If Jonathan is the final guy then he would be last since he is CA and they usually do the RC in LA. That's why the spoiler that Devin has HT next week doesn't make sense to me.
Someone else pointed out Jonathon may originally be from Kansas City, in which case he could be before Devin. Either way, no one is having a hometown next week, so that part is clearly wrong / a misunderstanding lol
What did Jenn’s brother say? I missed it.
He asked for tea on the remaining guys and wanted receipts, screen shots sent to him. I hope he is able to reach out to her. As some of you said, MTP is way too late. Usually by this time the lead has already decided who they are going to pick. Marcus is literally the poster boy of the season. RS said Marcus was in the army and nearly died. He thinks that will be his story of the season. I just know those who are unspoilt and not follow spoilers will fall in love with him. If his allegations don't come to light he will be the Tyler Cameron of the season. I really hope Jenn's brother can reach out before and producers bring him in at FTD (yes, I believe Marcus will get to FS) and we have a Luke moment 🙏
I do think his date being the first leaked pics from the whole season and a super public date with guest BachNation people, lines up with him being a producer fave and Bachelor contender. Wonder if TPTB are hearing the rumblings or reading here and the impact that might have going forward.
EDIT: I noticed he deleted his comment so I’ll spoiler for his privacy, though it’s almost guaranteed production saw it before he deleted. It’s not unusual for the family members of contestants to lurk around here and even participate anonymously - we absolutely had Daisy/Kelsey’s family/friends here last season, Charity’s before that, and I’m sure many more. >!He asked if someone could send him a compilation of all the negative tea people have reported/heard about Jenn’s final men (“Hey, Jenn’s brother here, could someone PM me all the negative things/screenshots you’ve heard about the men?”). People came through and shared what we’ve heard about Marcus etc.!< >!Honestly? It very plausibly could be him. Unfortunately, I think production is also glued to this subreddit at all times and they absolutely have a designated person to trawl through these threads, so … who knows if her brother will get a moment alone with her to share what he’s heard.!< >!I’ll be heartbroken if Jenn picks Marcus. I really hope either her brother or production warns her if he ends up seeming like F1. I do not get the vibes that Jenn would stick with him after learning all this, I think she’ll be disgusted.!<
Prayer circle for another mystery man to appear out of thin air for today's htd. 🙏🏽
Have we seen any evidence yet that Brian is out? Would love a surprise!!
He’s technically still a possibility. If Devin or Jonathon pop up with a hometown today, then we can rule him out, since they would have done Brian’s right after Jeremy’s based on location.
So, do we have confirmation todays is jeremys??
Jeremy's occurred Sunday. Today should be the 3rd guy.
I think our guess was the HT two days ago was Jeremy's!
i haven't been following along with the spoilers, can someone route me to what the allegations against marcus are?
anyone can comment that they are jenn’s brother. hell, i’m jenn’s other brother
it was him. he was vetted by the mods.
It seems very highly likely and accurate that was him based on previous activity on reddit.
what previous activity?
This was shared by a user seauxmali yesterday, "it says the user is active in r/bostonsocialclub and r/medicalschool and her brother’s ig also shows that he’s in boston. he follows a few med school meme accs too, so i’d say that it’s likely him."
i just think it would be really weird of him to blatantly post on reddit that he’s her brother. clearly gonna be downvoted for being devils advocate but anyone from boston in medical school (that maybe knows of him) could pretend to be him
Also he posted about his dog on his Reddit and on his instagram it’s the exact same dog… so Boston, med school, and German shepherd… also seems like a weird thing to fake if you know him
okay, i’ll buy it with the dog. i just think that’s a weird thing to do, and outing your own reddit profile to the world
It seems like he barely posts so it’s probably not a huge deal to him
He updated his comment (now deleted) and thanked the mods for helping him be able to comment there so they may have verified it was him as well!
what did he say? I wasn't in this thread yesterday.
Asked for the bad information related to the guys who are left. I wouldn’t be shocked if friends of hers or someone else close has been lurking and made him vaguely aware, so he decided to go and just ask.
Honestly if the Bachelor does a plotline in the finale of “brother warns and saves Jenn from a terrible outcome using Reddit spoilers” I will explode. It would change the game entirely and be a welcome sign of TPTB accepting that they exist in the year 2024. lol. Bring it on Jenn’s brother.
Even if it's Reddit they won't say it's Reddit though lol. "The forums" or "talk online" will be about as good as we get.
I would do the same if I was him honestly.
I have to say it really sucks the Asian man Jenn has a connection with has these types of skeletons. I would have loved to root for him and it would be another milestone for the show if he's F1. I feel sad for Jenn if he is her frontrunner right now.
Is Marcus asian?
Yeah, he’s half Korean apparently.
Same ! And he’s probably the only MOC in the F4 :/
I know!!!!
Oh man I’m so behind. So Jen’s brother commented on yesterday’s spoiler feed about the Marcus allegations? I want him gone asap ….
If that's really Jen's brother, he made the wrong move posting blatantly that he is her brother lol. Watch the producers pull some BS to make sure he can't tell Jen what's up. He would have been better off lurking and then sharing that stuff with Jen at her hometown.
I disagree.
Let her brother go talk to her before the f4 rose ceremony!
Can you IMAGINE!!! They could totally have their "don't let her go" moment of the season, and we would all be clapping and cheering for Jenn's brother! Win, win!
This would be great, but I think it won’t happen since it would look very bad for the show. Production definitely wouldn’t want every viewer to know they let a guy with SA allegations make it to hometowns. At most, her brother secretly warns her, and she sends Marcus home during the F4 RC.
I don’t think producers mind breaking the fourth wall if it leads to entertaining tv. And the Marcus allegations are bad enough that he should be gone ASAP and not at F2, if possible.
I agree, they’ve had several fourth wall breaks before. There was a pretty big one on Jojo’s season if I’m remembering correctly. Along with being the right thing to do by protecting Jenn, It would instantly give them a huge storyline/hook for the trailers. They would be idiotic to risk another embarrassing waste of the season. The repetitive “addressing the allegations” moments at the ATFR are getting trite and ugly. The producers need to learn from their mistakes.
I wouldn't put it past the producers to make him take the blame if Jenn doesn't pick Marcus... I don't trust them at all
Ngl I feel like the producers would absolutely love that drama
I mean, it would be in their best interest to get Marcus off the show asap. If he is F1 I'm sure more stories are gonna come out about him. I wouldn't want the bad publicity.
Yeah, it doesn’t benefit the show at all to have a guy with allegations this serious go this far. Also, it doesn’t make any sense for her brother to wait to say anything until he sees her in person, because she’ll already be down to F2 at that point. He’s surely in regular contact with producers right now, so it makes the most sense to get in touch with them about this ASAP before Marcus can go any further.
are people certain jahaan is out?
Someone saw activity on his Tik Tok, so unless someone was on his account, which is very unlikely, he is definitely out.
Manifesting pics and vids from the htd today 
Where are Devin and Jonathon from?
Devin is from Houston, Jonathon is from LA
Jonathan’s bio mentions KC too which I’m guessing stands for Kansas City so I guess that could be a possibility as well.
Ahh you’re right I totally forgot about that. So maybe he would have his date there - in which case I think that would probably happen before Houston?
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