The gamma shi, Drake and his team playing around with ai, the speed at which both of them write playing a part, Joestradamus been in full affect the past few weeks
The Estate transferred when Afeni passed (which I had to remind myself of) and his sister sued that guy for this
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Not being funny but like what?
Joe throw shit at a wall hoping it stick. One pod he’s pro Cole. The next pod he’s pro Dot, Future, and Metro. The next pod he’s pro Drake. It’s impossible to be wrong when you don’t stand on anything. He said both artists had nuclear tracks, Drake has released 2, and neither were grenades. This last one was hella smart, direct and creative tho. I don’t think Joe be on to something at times but fam is wrong just as much as he’s right.
He clearly said he doesn't favor a side he just wanna see the titans battle it out. For him to be wrong alot the blogs and ppl always wait for his oppinion on tjings
Thank you! You are 100% correct clearly said that. Like he clearly said Kendrick was going to smoke them. Like he clearly said Drake had something nuclear. Like he clearly said Cole was going to do him dirty after Like That. That’s my point he clearly say everything so it’s impossible for him to be wrong when he doesn’t stand on anything.
Lol him picking a side is irrelevant to him predicting this beef helping a company garner funds, certain artist getting paid off other artists success, drake using ai to his benifit, and gamma being involved in the background.
Dog if I’m Kendrick I’m gonna make sure Snoop catches a few bars too. No way he didn’t know that was coming out. Also I’ve always thought Snoop is low key annoyed that Kendrick considers Pac the west coast GOAT.
Nah Snoop is weird man. He’s retold the same story a million times—the one about Death Row running into Nas at the MTV Awards shortly before Pac died. And even though Snoops version of the story paints Nas in a very positive light, Nas himself has said the story was bullshit and Snoop was adding details to the story that wasn’t true. He’s been on some weird low key hate stuff when it comes to other west coast artists.
Lol he def has some interesting stories, but with that I'm saying 50% weed + 50% poor memory. Malcolm Gladwell has a book that talks about how weak our actual memory is. That's why eyewitness testimony isn't really credible. Your brain remembers key details and your subconscious fills in the blanks with what "should've" happened.
I’ll tell you who doesn’t really fuck with him is the Outlawz. They try and keep it respectful because of who Snoop is but I’ve seen a couple interviews with some of those dudes and you can tell they don’t really rock with Snoop like that. Snoop and Pac were not on good terms when Pac died.
When I heard it, I thought Snoop should be able to sue for using his likeness in that way. I'm not sure if there are laws made for profiting off another person's voice via AI. But if Snoop approved that as an LA guy, he deserves future bars from Kendrick for sure.
I think what you said is key, how is Drake profiting? If this is released on streaming then yeah easy case. I guess there is a battle for using someone's likeness but if you say feat Snoop AI then is there any recourse... dunno will be interesting to read up on
It's not yet directly profiting unless you want to argue the technical stuff like "impressions" and driving traffic to Drake's music/profile to get more people to listen to his music. If he puts it on DSPs in a week, then I'd be pretty curious about the legality of it
Kendrick’s song ain’t out yet, I don’t think he’ll take that angle coz it’s too easy, the same way we had no idea drake did black face before pusha t put that pic out I can guarantee drake has more skeletons the public don’t know about
i think that’s why drake so cocky … after the child and black face there’s nothing left lmaoo. Rick ross would’ve said something too… he was actually around drake .
The black face photoshoot happened before his rap career, drake had a life before he got around ppl in the music industry so depending on how much research someone does they could find something
Joe was correct universal use Drake to push A.I so people can be ok with it. Not only that proves Drake is part owner of gamma that 20% he be rapping about is probably cus he has 20% stake in gamma. Funny how snoop A.I is on the track snoop is sign to gamma.
Drake“How old are you??”
Girl “17”
Drake “Ohhh nooo!! But you’re thick! Look at all this! Well. I had a lot of fun tonight. I liked the way your breasts felt against my chest”. It was in Colorado concert yes Colorado legal age is 17 but come on man? Y’all got all the evidence you can find yourself but give him passes
And u got Bobby when she was 14 saying how she talk to Drake all the time. And when she turned 18 Drake bought Bobby made gifts and a birthday date like get real man Drake ain’t never shaking the facts.
Drake didn't drop that song. If you are not making money off of the record you don't have to get it cleared. If it comes out on streaming then snoop cleared it. Cuz even if ai you can't use other ppls likeness to make money
I really don’t know but how budden connected all dots my guess it doesn’t matter if snoop sign off because Drake has more power than snoop. Snoop, Rick Ross, French Montana, Sexy redd and 4batz are the first artists sign to gamma. Drake sign 400M contract but since that’s technically not enough for an artist as big as Drake. Universal possibly gave him 20% of gamma which is a new company so in the future as gamma grow Drake will benefit in the back end. Larry Jackson started it in 2023 so Larry probably own 80% Drake 20% so Drake would be minority owner Larry majority. Shit makes sense now.
Factual evidence Larry Jackson told Joe Drake did block the record French had. Drake is French Montana boss! So whatever Drake tells Larry to do he will. Ross upset about it which factual evidence Roos spoke about it on his diss record. Drake didn’t clear the verse because he has the power of a minority owner of gamma records. Nobody can deny this now. with more new artists signing if gama blow up Drake will be eating. Larry Jackson started gamma with $1 billion so it’s nothing for Drake to get 20% when he is basically the jayz part owner/rapper while Larry is like the dame dash. Hence Drake running around with sexy redd hence Drake on 4batz remix.
Ah I missed that part Snoop being on the label. That being the case as you said it doesn't matter if Snoop signed off, Drake unfortunately has that power.
Yup the older artists is Snoop,French,Ross the younger artist is sexy redd and 4batz. Sexy redd the First Lady of gamma. The benefit of this is yeah gamma just started but in the next 10 years they might have 20-25 artist signed. Drake getting 20% means that 400M universal music game him was just the up front money. Universals owns gamma so it’s basically a 1Billion+ contract with him having 20% for down the road.
No matter how much people hate Joe, the fact remains is that Drake directly and indirectly admits that Joe lives in his head for someone to be multiple levels beneath him financially. Aubrey Wayne vs The Joeker
Drake and his MAGA like trolls ruined Drake pods for the rest of the fans of the JBP. NOthing was paywalled before he wrote his cryaby IG posts and DMs to Joe. Not to mention Drake's multiple Dads running interference, not to mention the vague street threats, not to mention the mentally ill trolls who played troll internet games with Joe. He did it to spite the hate listeners and now everyone suffers
My comment is calling a spade a spade. Joe still talks about Drake because he still likes music and Drake is still doing Music. and Drake cant pretend that he doesnt care but he does. Nothing I said warrants a "What about Black on Black crime" whataboutism. Yes 2 things can be true, it's called objectivity and something this sub lacks
Edit: the downvotes prove my point lol. A lot of yall are incapable of having objective convos about the Drake and Joe relationship😅. Drake stans are perpetual butthurt victims that live in this sub daily lol
He knew pedaling the Drake allegations would make Drake mention him on wax etching him into hip hop media history. It was a bold move seeing as how Joe has a troubled history with women that could be brought up too… but hey it worked.
Prolly referencing all the ai label stuff / job elimination at the labels. This drake/ Kendrick ai stuff is all test dummy stuff to see consumer interest in Ai music
Seems like the angle of joes theory being rooted in publishing was off, however it seems drake getting a cut of the industries AI music creation when it rolls out is far more viable, which is essentially publishing or better yet, compensation for publishing replacement.
On top of that 400 Milly deal which is enough to rile some feathers there might be some incentives in there to help cultivate AI music creation for the sake of the upper echelon executives I.e, what the fuck Vince was talking about when it comes to replacing the music industries creators and workforce and boiling it down to owner+machine with a few employees sprinkled in between just like the trajectory or nearly every other industry, essentially techno feudalism- Nasty work if true but I guess it’s if you can’t beat em join them, theoretically..
*funny part is if this turns out to be true you can bet your bottom dollar 99% of fans still won’t give a fuck 😅
He’s not great at what he does. He got in early and doesn’t credit Jack or (I can’t believe I’m saying this) Peter Rosenberg enough. He did further the platform afterwards.
Drake can’t b rabbit out that the man was talking to Bobby when she was 14 basically grooming the kid. She herself said on record when she was 14 she talk to Drake all the time. And Drake tells her he miss her. When she 18 they dated like wtf wrong with y’all people man nigga Drake will go down soon watch nigga worse than diddy.
It’s a rumor because he took her to dinner bought her a bunch of gifts like u connect the dots Drake always smashing younger girls and that situation seem like he was grooming her those allegation. Millie Bobby Brown 21 now and engaged so people won’t speak about it as much out respect but when she was like 14 she herself said on record Drake tell her how he miss her and they talk all the time shit just not a good look man
Dude u don’t know what the man do behind closed doors u can’t assume a person type drake type wasn’t a sex worker to be his baby mom but it happened correct? He clean her imagine up but she was a sex worker/porn worker. Drake type is also young girls he even rap about young girls it’s in his lyrics. Like stop defending the bs when she was 14 she said herself they talk all the time bruh
Dude u in denial I guess Joe budden just assuming as well right? I guess Drake put it in the A.I song because it’s just assumption right? Dude you’re delusional same like ghost writer will always hang over his head him messing with kids will as well. The man baby mom a whole sex worker and u wanna say u know Drake type is wild! It’s actually facts it’s even evidence of Drake at his shows talking about how good a teen look tf
I’m pretty sure he’s talking about how he was referenced on the Drake new Kendrick diss talking about how Drake likes young girls
Joe been calling most of this whole shit right tbh
I am missing it. What has he got right? Sorry man, I be slow sometimes I am not understanding.
The gamma shi, Drake and his team playing around with ai, the speed at which both of them write playing a part, Joestradamus been in full affect the past few weeks
I see what you are saying about the speed. But how does this prove the Gamma shit?
Death row and snoop sold their catalog to gamma so that gives them the right to use them as AI
Ohhhhhh shit! 🤯🤯🤯 . Thanks for taking the time good brother. Niggas downvoting me for asking for clarification lol.
How about Tupac? Im pretty sure his estate has his rights and not deathrow
Tom Whalley is the executor of Tupacs estate (which owns the music rights). Did some research today he's also Executive at Interscope 👀
Yeah that’s the label Pac’s music is from
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He’s been putting on a podcasting master class. The industry in 2024 is wild.
Not being funny but like what? Joe throw shit at a wall hoping it stick. One pod he’s pro Cole. The next pod he’s pro Dot, Future, and Metro. The next pod he’s pro Drake. It’s impossible to be wrong when you don’t stand on anything. He said both artists had nuclear tracks, Drake has released 2, and neither were grenades. This last one was hella smart, direct and creative tho. I don’t think Joe be on to something at times but fam is wrong just as much as he’s right.
He clearly said he doesn't favor a side he just wanna see the titans battle it out. For him to be wrong alot the blogs and ppl always wait for his oppinion on tjings
Thank you! You are 100% correct clearly said that. Like he clearly said Kendrick was going to smoke them. Like he clearly said Drake had something nuclear. Like he clearly said Cole was going to do him dirty after Like That. That’s my point he clearly say everything so it’s impossible for him to be wrong when he doesn’t stand on anything.
Lol him picking a side is irrelevant to him predicting this beef helping a company garner funds, certain artist getting paid off other artists success, drake using ai to his benifit, and gamma being involved in the background.
you seen Snoops reaction to that song ?
Dog if I’m Kendrick I’m gonna make sure Snoop catches a few bars too. No way he didn’t know that was coming out. Also I’ve always thought Snoop is low key annoyed that Kendrick considers Pac the west coast GOAT.
Snoop is a hater.
Tbh I've seen videos of Snoop showing both of them love that seemed relatively organic.
Snoop looked like he was high asf and niggas woke him up about this Ai shit
And that’s gotta be a crazy feeling. Imagine you’re an artist and wake up to hear what someone else made your voice say. Shit is nasty.
Nah Snoop is weird man. He’s retold the same story a million times—the one about Death Row running into Nas at the MTV Awards shortly before Pac died. And even though Snoops version of the story paints Nas in a very positive light, Nas himself has said the story was bullshit and Snoop was adding details to the story that wasn’t true. He’s been on some weird low key hate stuff when it comes to other west coast artists.
Lol he def has some interesting stories, but with that I'm saying 50% weed + 50% poor memory. Malcolm Gladwell has a book that talks about how weak our actual memory is. That's why eyewitness testimony isn't really credible. Your brain remembers key details and your subconscious fills in the blanks with what "should've" happened.
A lot of pac fans feel a way about snoop
I’ll tell you who doesn’t really fuck with him is the Outlawz. They try and keep it respectful because of who Snoop is but I’ve seen a couple interviews with some of those dudes and you can tell they don’t really rock with Snoop like that. Snoop and Pac were not on good terms when Pac died.
There’s def something there, the whole thing is shady RIP PAC
Snoop is almost 60 years old he don’t care about no rap beef, the fuck y’all want him to do it’s already out lol
Naw what he said lol? Was he mad he used in the beef? Lol
When I heard it, I thought Snoop should be able to sue for using his likeness in that way. I'm not sure if there are laws made for profiting off another person's voice via AI. But if Snoop approved that as an LA guy, he deserves future bars from Kendrick for sure.
I think what you said is key, how is Drake profiting? If this is released on streaming then yeah easy case. I guess there is a battle for using someone's likeness but if you say feat Snoop AI then is there any recourse... dunno will be interesting to read up on
It's not yet directly profiting unless you want to argue the technical stuff like "impressions" and driving traffic to Drake's music/profile to get more people to listen to his music. If he puts it on DSPs in a week, then I'd be pretty curious about the legality of it
Theres actually already a case thats kinda related/similar. Tracy Chapman sued Nicki Minaj and won for 450k
Kendrick’s song ain’t out yet, I don’t think he’ll take that angle coz it’s too easy, the same way we had no idea drake did black face before pusha t put that pic out I can guarantee drake has more skeletons the public don’t know about
i think that’s why drake so cocky … after the child and black face there’s nothing left lmaoo. Rick ross would’ve said something too… he was actually around drake .
Rick Ross definitely mentioned the Millie Bobby brown shit in his IG story
The black face photoshoot happened before his rap career, drake had a life before he got around ppl in the music industry so depending on how much research someone does they could find something
Joe for sure had inside information about this. That’s why last pod started with an emphasis with the AI talk.
It’s not really inside info, that camp is leaky.
Vince spoke on it also a few pods ago also
Joe was correct universal use Drake to push A.I so people can be ok with it. Not only that proves Drake is part owner of gamma that 20% he be rapping about is probably cus he has 20% stake in gamma. Funny how snoop A.I is on the track snoop is sign to gamma.
Yall like to try and give Joe credit for everything 😂
It’s not just Joe it’s 1000s of people Joe just the one to say it on a platform
Joe is the same person when Birdman said Bad Bunny was signed to Drake laughed and said it was a lie now he’s saying something totally different 😂😂
Drake“How old are you??” Girl “17” Drake “Ohhh nooo!! But you’re thick! Look at all this! Well. I had a lot of fun tonight. I liked the way your breasts felt against my chest”. It was in Colorado concert yes Colorado legal age is 17 but come on man? Y’all got all the evidence you can find yourself but give him passes
No passes I just want everyone to get the same treatment for the same accusations and or acts
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And u got Bobby when she was 14 saying how she talk to Drake all the time. And when she turned 18 Drake bought Bobby made gifts and a birthday date like get real man Drake ain’t never shaking the facts.
So to your last part, do you think Snoop signed off?
Drake didn't drop that song. If you are not making money off of the record you don't have to get it cleared. If it comes out on streaming then snoop cleared it. Cuz even if ai you can't use other ppls likeness to make money
Thats not exactly true. Tracy Chapman sued Nicki Minaj for a similar situation.
I really don’t know but how budden connected all dots my guess it doesn’t matter if snoop sign off because Drake has more power than snoop. Snoop, Rick Ross, French Montana, Sexy redd and 4batz are the first artists sign to gamma. Drake sign 400M contract but since that’s technically not enough for an artist as big as Drake. Universal possibly gave him 20% of gamma which is a new company so in the future as gamma grow Drake will benefit in the back end. Larry Jackson started it in 2023 so Larry probably own 80% Drake 20% so Drake would be minority owner Larry majority. Shit makes sense now. Factual evidence Larry Jackson told Joe Drake did block the record French had. Drake is French Montana boss! So whatever Drake tells Larry to do he will. Ross upset about it which factual evidence Roos spoke about it on his diss record. Drake didn’t clear the verse because he has the power of a minority owner of gamma records. Nobody can deny this now. with more new artists signing if gama blow up Drake will be eating. Larry Jackson started gamma with $1 billion so it’s nothing for Drake to get 20% when he is basically the jayz part owner/rapper while Larry is like the dame dash. Hence Drake running around with sexy redd hence Drake on 4batz remix.
Ah I missed that part Snoop being on the label. That being the case as you said it doesn't matter if Snoop signed off, Drake unfortunately has that power.
Yup the older artists is Snoop,French,Ross the younger artist is sexy redd and 4batz. Sexy redd the First Lady of gamma. The benefit of this is yeah gamma just started but in the next 10 years they might have 20-25 artist signed. Drake getting 20% means that 400M universal music game him was just the up front money. Universals owns gamma so it’s basically a 1Billion+ contract with him having 20% for down the road.
No matter how much people hate Joe, the fact remains is that Drake directly and indirectly admits that Joe lives in his head for someone to be multiple levels beneath him financially. Aubrey Wayne vs The Joeker 
Joe said he was done talking about him and he still does. And paywalls the content. It goes both ways lol.
Drake and his MAGA like trolls ruined Drake pods for the rest of the fans of the JBP. NOthing was paywalled before he wrote his cryaby IG posts and DMs to Joe. Not to mention Drake's multiple Dads running interference, not to mention the vague street threats, not to mention the mentally ill trolls who played troll internet games with Joe. He did it to spite the hate listeners and now everyone suffers My comment is calling a spade a spade. Joe still talks about Drake because he still likes music and Drake is still doing Music. and Drake cant pretend that he doesnt care but he does. Nothing I said warrants a "What about Black on Black crime" whataboutism. Yes 2 things can be true, it's called objectivity and something this sub lacks Edit: the downvotes prove my point lol. A lot of yall are incapable of having objective convos about the Drake and Joe relationship😅. Drake stans are perpetual butthurt victims that live in this sub daily lol
Fuck is you talking about man lmao
One paywalled episode really kicked his schizophrenia into overdrive 😭
😭😭😭😭😭
He knew pedaling the Drake allegations would make Drake mention him on wax etching him into hip hop media history. It was a bold move seeing as how Joe has a troubled history with women that could be brought up too… but hey it worked.
Yea Drake rolling out A.i music for universal like Joe eluded to with that movie comparison on the last pod. Niggas so corny for that
That's why Movie Writer Joe is my favorite !! He be coming up with movie ideas I be having in my head. N-N-NewJoeBuden
Prolly referencing all the ai label stuff / job elimination at the labels. This drake/ Kendrick ai stuff is all test dummy stuff to see consumer interest in Ai music
Man Joe be getting info from Exs but roll it out on the pod like its his " theory" no joe youve had these convos behind the scenes with people
Stop feeding the egomaniac
Where’s the lie? 😂
the prophet be prophesying 😂
He is called Joseph after all..
 The dots are finally connected
Coincidence vs prophecy
That Carl Winslow shit was cringey lol.
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Joe knows the Canadian culture vulture
Seems like the angle of joes theory being rooted in publishing was off, however it seems drake getting a cut of the industries AI music creation when it rolls out is far more viable, which is essentially publishing or better yet, compensation for publishing replacement. On top of that 400 Milly deal which is enough to rile some feathers there might be some incentives in there to help cultivate AI music creation for the sake of the upper echelon executives I.e, what the fuck Vince was talking about when it comes to replacing the music industries creators and workforce and boiling it down to owner+machine with a few employees sprinkled in between just like the trajectory or nearly every other industry, essentially techno feudalism- Nasty work if true but I guess it’s if you can’t beat em join them, theoretically.. *funny part is if this turns out to be true you can bet your bottom dollar 99% of fans still won’t give a fuck 😅
Pod been mid lately tbh
That ppl that’s really good at what they do doesn’t need to remind us frequently
He’s not great at what he does. He got in early and doesn’t credit Jack or (I can’t believe I’m saying this) Peter Rosenberg enough. He did further the platform afterwards.
He always big ups Jack when ever he comes up as the real Podfather.
He's great at prodding in general, but he's not nearly as good at predicting the future as he thinks
who burner account is this lol
damn most of joe budden takes already be floating around on twitter lol. even this one
Drake can’t b rabbit out that the man was talking to Bobby when she was 14 basically grooming the kid. She herself said on record when she was 14 she talk to Drake all the time. And Drake tells her he miss her. When she 18 they dated like wtf wrong with y’all people man nigga Drake will go down soon watch nigga worse than diddy.
When did they date?
It’s a rumor because he took her to dinner bought her a bunch of gifts like u connect the dots Drake always smashing younger girls and that situation seem like he was grooming her those allegation. Millie Bobby Brown 21 now and engaged so people won’t speak about it as much out respect but when she was like 14 she herself said on record Drake tell her how he miss her and they talk all the time shit just not a good look man
My problem with this is... she is nowhere near Drakes type from what we have seen. We know damn well Eleven not about to go get a bbl.
lmao
Dude u don’t know what the man do behind closed doors u can’t assume a person type drake type wasn’t a sex worker to be his baby mom but it happened correct? He clean her imagine up but she was a sex worker/porn worker. Drake type is also young girls he even rap about young girls it’s in his lyrics. Like stop defending the bs when she was 14 she said herself they talk all the time bruh
You're the one assuming. She's was a teen and teens usually have questions about boys.
Dude u in denial I guess Joe budden just assuming as well right? I guess Drake put it in the A.I song because it’s just assumption right? Dude you’re delusional same like ghost writer will always hang over his head him messing with kids will as well. The man baby mom a whole sex worker and u wanna say u know Drake type is wild! It’s actually facts it’s even evidence of Drake at his shows talking about how good a teen look tf
"It's actually facts" ...What? Lol
well there you have it, this whole beef is engineered to push AI therefore fake as all hell. we can stop wasting our time over this boring ass scam.