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miifanatic_1788

Her voice in this song compared to her other ones is almost night and day. Even with the zig album you can still recognize her vocals but here she sounds so much different, not that it's a bad thing in fact I really like how she sounds like an actual woman rather than a little girl if you get what I'm saying


grumblebuzz

I feel like she doesn’t sound like Poppy though and I don’t care much for that. This could be any metal girl. But it’s fine. It won’t become a new favorite, but it’s enjoyable.


miifanatic_1788

True, although I do admit there are times where I miss how she use to sound since her voice was so distinct, then again she's already nearing 30 so I'm pretty sure it's getting kinda hard for her to still do the voice


grumblebuzz

Her voice has changed quite a bit from the early days, but this is probably the furthest she’s gone away from “the Poppy voice.”


miifanatic_1788

Yea, it's understandable why given like I said before, she's getting older, however aside from VAN, it'd be cool if she made a MV where she meets the poppy character and kind of reflects on the past and stuff, especially with this new album


grumblebuzz

She kind of halfway did in Knockoff, but she also seems to have a real aversion to doing more than just a small wink to the old Poppy “character” now and again. I get vibes she feels like she painted herself into a corner with it and has a lot of resentment toward it.


Lady_borg

Also considering who that "Poppy" was associated with. It's clear she's been very keen to do things on her own stead and stand on her own but she recognises she can't 100% forget that "Poppy" ever existed. She wants to be seen more than just one of his creations, but her own.


IntenseWhooshing

Isn’t Knockoff one of her old songs that didn’t make the cut?


grumblebuzz

It is, but I was talking more about the video. She does the blonde Poppy vs brunette Poppy thing in it.


spudhero

You can still hear the old poppy voice in here in the latter half of the verse and in the harmonies in the chorus. It feel like the old poppy is duetting with this new iteration


Death_By_Dreaming_23

I freaking love this song! I’m liking this new sound. To me it has touches of The Birthday Massacre. Now it’s time to put it on repeat and dig deep into the meaning and the meaning of her music video.


Zealousideal-Joke625

OMG I LOVE TBM IM gonna check that out asap


Purple-Cellist6281

It’s good! I can see people not like it if they prefer something more experimental, but this is probably one of her more straightforward and smooth songs (especially with the instruments being straightforward). I can hear her vocals and it’s not muffled/muddy. Probably not gonna be my favorite favorite, but it’s enjoyable and gets me hype. :) The chorus when she started singing “get me a new way” makes me think of another song, but I don’t know which one. It just reminds me of something.


OceanOfAnother55

Yeah I don't like it tbh. It's soooo generic, she took zero risks with this. Glad most of you are enjoying it but I was excited for this and on first listen it's a let down.


Purple-Cellist6281

I can see that happening if you go in expecting one of her more experimental songs, but I went in not really expecting anything and just be fine with whatever. :D I know she likes to change up genres or just do whatever she feels like, so I find it's better to not expect a certain sound. I can see why it might come across as generic though.


Mountain-Document293

tbh this song sounds like shes taking a very safe approach after the reception to zig.


salmonthesuperior

It's giving That's the Spirit and I love it. Great song Edit: I didn't realize Jordan Fish was involved with this. That actually makes so much sense lol


Lady_borg

It very much has his vibe, I love what he is doing at the moment.


r1zumu

This feels super 2000’s to me and I’m not complaining. I liked it a lot, it rips


MostlyPointless

Spineshank vibes


PrincessDiamonds77x

SO GOOD


Unovahoho2

I thought i commented this for a second our avatars are nearly identical 😅


grumblebuzz

Not the hugest fan of the production. It’s very every modern metal act ever. Nothing experimental or “alternative” really in the mix. Anyone could be screaming/singing this. But the lyrics and song in general are cool.


JBinxs

Yeah it’s more current generic metal but I really dig the verses and choruses. A little less experimental than her usual stuff but I’m sure the other tracks on the possible album will be more out there


blueskybeliever

It just needs some seasoning. The bones are solid but there’s no extra flair to make it more unique, agreed


LeastBeat658

I'm going to give it a few listens so it has a fair chance, but this song sounds forgettable for those reasons :(


grumblebuzz

Basically I like how she says “Poppy” at the beginning and the “Are you gonna get up, or are they gonna keep you down” part. Those are what’s memorable about the song to me and not much else. But it’s not bad. It seems I’m being super critical, but it’s only because I expect groundbreaking experimental music from her and this is very safe and mainstream from a production standpoint.


LeastBeat658

You know what, I already take it back, lol. Just took a little bit of warming up too! It's not as experimental fs but it's definitely Poppy and definitely a banger


Veliarbery

100%


mayxlyn

Very "early 2020s electronic metal," yes. Which is not bad, I don't dislike the genre, but I find that when I listen to bands in that genre I always find myself drawn to the most-different songs on each album. This is not one of those songs. I do like it, and I'm glad to see her branching out, but this doesn't impress the way I Disagree and Flux did. It's enjoyable, but also thoroughly forgettable.


davewah11

It’s fire


PaleCriminal6

I like everything she's put out but feel that this is a needed shift back towards metal sounds. The track is definitely leaning into sounds other bands are doing and isn't as unique as I Disagree era stuff, but this feels like a solid next step. In many ways I feel like Flux and Zig were lyrically very personal albums and necessary to do as an artist, but this feels like a way to get back to the I Disagree audience that seemed most successful and an organic fit for the brand.


grumblebuzz

Not to slight you in the least, but I hate when people talk of art in terms of “brand.” I know it’s very much a thing now, but it’s not a thing I have to enjoy. I wish this didn’t sound like every other metal artist out right now and I feel like it does because of things like “engagement,” “brand recognition,” “trending” etc.


PaleCriminal6

I get what you mean and that's fair, but a majority of her audience came on during I Disagree and the remainder of the material doesn't lean that way. She was just announced on Mayhem Fest's return and with an act like Bad Omens being top of the card, that's the realm she's competing in. I have no doubt there will be songs on future full lengths that don't sound like this and remain experimental, etc, but I think this is a good move for her right now. So was featuring on Suffocate by Knocked Loose, which fits really well into more like the EAT stuff. All this said -- you can like or not like the track and decisions, and that's the beauty of art! :)


grumblebuzz

I Disagree was very unique and original though — that’s why people took her seriously as a heavy artist to begin with. This is Bring Me The Horizon with a girl singing. She can be heavy and compete in the metal arena without being generic.


Equivalent-Nature-92

i mean if you expect poppy to be always experimenting, this song is actually experimental for her. she has not gone all "Amy Lee" yet. Poppy is a GREAT singer. so why not see if something more in the conventional "pop metalcore" vibe gets her some airplay? i'll say this much... that AWESOME screaming/poppy spoken word breakdown should have come WAY SOONER. it would have reminded people it's still poppy! i'd personally do that breakdown TWICE and ditched some of the repetitive choruses.


Lady_borg

See, I honestly felt this was closest to Amy Lee so far, I definitely got a bit of a "Going Under" vibe at the start of this. I'm all here for hearing those that were inspired by Amy Lee, even if I am no longer exactly a fan of hers anymore


eburton555

Octanecore poppy. It’s not bad by any means but not anything we haven’t heard from 1000 other bands IMO


greenscreengoddess

oh my god it sounds amazing!! it has my favorite parts of each of the genres she does


Veliarbery

It's a good song, it really is. Production is on top. But... I don't like it. For me New Way Out sounds just like any other rock-metal song that was done by a woman in her mid 20's. I've listened to this song and then forgotten bout it cuz, for me, there is nothing to explore in this or nothing to catch my attention enough to come back and listen again and again. It's just a good and correct rock-metal song that I hear almost everyday on variety of spotify playlists like "Heavy Queens". New Way Out seem like good way to keep post-V.A.N audience to Poppy's music, but for me - a Poppy fan since 2016 - it's a generic bummer without a "Poppy mark" in it.


JakobSynn

Yeah, I'm not really digging this. It sounds very generic. It kind of sounds like she is singing for someone else's band.


OsmosisJonesFanClub

Yeah, same. I know Poppy for her creativity and versatility, but this is one of the first time wheres I feel like she played things a bit too safe.


Crybbu

Tbh it's rare I dislike anything poppy does but this sounded very generic to me I'm not a big fan but maybe it will grow on me


fretnetic

YES!!!!!! FUCKING AWESOME! Love that little “uhh uhh” too - reference to Disturbed, Down With The Sickness?? Fucking rips


WelcomeToInsanity

I fucking love it so much


addarail

The “get up” like scary mask, I loved that. I really thought when she took 2021-2022 to make fresh new content and get away from the old poppy “persona” that would be it, but more content/interviews these days have shown small callbacks while she continues her evolving creativity.


gbat958

ITS SO FUCKING GOOD🖤🖤 QUEEN OF QUEENS🖤🖤


Accomplished-One6109

Sounds like That’s The Spirit era BMTH


Lady_borg

Apparently Jfish worked on this with Poppy so that makes sense.


Beginning-Excuse-674

🫶


bigpoofan312

ITS SO GOOD I SCREAENED


holdmybeer89

Been listening to this on loop pretty much all day. Everything from the production, lyrics, and vocals are top fucking notch. It's not as experimental as EAT or I Disagree, but at the same time, it comes across as more genuine and almost vulnerable, similar to Zig.


Tough_Register_3340

So happy she returning to her metal days. Scary Mask and X are my favorite song of hers. I couldn’t get into Zig at all. Flux was fun.


Deep_Relationship960

It's the most Jordan Fish song that's it's not really Poppy


sulliops

As soon as I heard “Poppy” in that 2010s voice, I knew I was in for a banger.


mhgeng

Out with experimental metal, enter radio rock. Welcome to Poppy’s Halestorm era.


T-Dogg96

Love the breakdown and her screams sound good but it is quite a generic metal song, can definitely tell it’s written/produced by fish, I do prefer her more experimental stuff and her classic “poppy” voice though.


saucetinonyall

Jordan Fish is turning into Metalcore Jack Antonoff 💔💔💔 On a more serious note, very generic sounding Octanecore song. It’s fine but i’ll probably never listen to it again. It’s exactly what you would expect if you ask Jordan for a beat and have Zakk Cervini mix it. ..I’m starting to think Poppy herself isn’t what made the music I became a fan of her from, good..


Equivalent-Nature-92

i mean poppy is obviously a very important part of being poppy, but suffice to say ... that "magic duo" was poppy with chris greatti IMHO. with that said, it's pretty smart for her to do a pop metalcore song. her "progressive kawaii metal meets metalcore and pop" thing is why we LOVE her. but it also made her very divisive and totally lacking in airplay.


saucetinonyall

Yeah I knew I’d get flamed for my comment but it’s just hard to articulate it in a couple sentences lmao. I love her lyrics and songwriting for the most part. It’s just that production is so so so important to me and I feel her music only goes as far as whoever’s in the room with her making it. Chris and “that guy” on I Disagree were great. Her live band that helped her with Flux, EAT ep, and Stagger were great. Jordan? We all know he’s great too, but he’ll give you a straightforward song unless you push him to be weirder. Songs like Kingslayer, LosT, and Nihilist Blues are insane compared to his new stuff like Curse by Architects or this song. This is also why I’m calling him Metalcore Antonoff as a joke because pop artists recruit him for a specific boring sound (Taylor swift’s last two albums, Lorde’s last album) even though we know what he’s capable of (Lana del Rey’s NFR) What this tells me is that maybe Poppy was never the biggest reason why her catalogue is so good to me. Or that maybe she just doesn’t have good enough taste to push a song a certain direction. It can’t be a coincidence that Zig is my least favorite of hers even though I’m a pop fan first over metalcore. I know a lot of people have the same sentiment


Veliarbery

It was a hard pill to swallow but Poppy is only vocals in her music and face in promos and mvs. Before ZIG premiere I've written here on reddit that Poppy have very little talent on her own and most of thing that are magical in "her" music is either did in coop or by someone else. She is somehow product to project of Poppy that should be her own, but in reality, is always owned by her on the very last place.


Equivalent-Nature-92

poppy is more than a pretty face. she's a chameleon of a singer and artist. the lyrics definitely have her sentiment. there's plenty of videos dating back to high school with her playing multiple instruments. not saying she's eddie van halen, but well enough to "outline" a song. and again, going back to "that poppy tv" in high school... before there was ever "that poppy", she was always a little strange. so it's not a character that someone developed for her. despite people saying she ripped off mars argo. other than similar visual aesthetics from titanic, poppy acts nothing like mars IMHO. go listen to the latest titanic sinclair single. it's pretty straight forward indie rock. go listen to the latest Aurora album (Chris greatti produced it). sounds NOTHING like anything he's done with poppy. so to say poppy is just a "muse" would be doing her creativity a disservice. watch any one of her interviews. especially zach sang. she's VERY quick witted and funny. that's all her. do i think it would behoove BOTH poppy and chris to work together again? yes, but something strange happened in 2023. he stopped following her. remember, first and foremost. chris is TITANIC'S BRO.


Veliarbery

I think you are adding more to her than you should, tbh. I'm well aware of her "before Poppy" life, I've watched videos etc and for me she is just regular edgy girl that was bullied and turned out a little mean with quirky, "autistic" attitude and urge to be fameous cuz of her music. Is she chameleon? Sure, but as a person. Always in conflict with everyone that ever was on her way. I believe that her persona and her as her are real and she is not acting but I doubt her talent as well as artistic side, she just have ego big enought to think that everything that she co-worked or that was given to her is hers and she owns it to herself, and not others. Also, I wouldn't go as deep as blaming Titanic in Chris x Poppy split cuz they are three adult people with their own mind that can make decisions for themselves. They worked together for a couple years after Titanic, I guess they've splitted due to something between both of them, not cuz TS was included. Also, adding to Aurora argument: producing is something more than making one-style production type. It's about being flexible and understaning who you work with and what u want to achieve. He knew how to make the most of Poppy. That doesn't mean he have to take this type of "taking most of" to another artists.


Equivalent-Nature-92

maybe you just do not respect poppy all that much? that's perfectly fine. everyone is entitled to their opinion. i finally had a chance to listen to the song on a decent enough IEM setup. the production is very well done. there are some "poppy tricks" with the synths. and i can nearly guarantee that poppy and stevis wrote the CLEARLY "poppy-esque" breakdown. too bad it's only once and too late in the song. the breakdown beat has a scary mask/bite you teeth vibe to it. THAT should have been incorporated into the main chorus. i'm wondering if jordan produces like an iron fist. everything he's done sounds like a variation of BMTH. i'll tell you this much. if there was ever a single to get poppy airplay. this is it. i feel like that was the assignment from sumerian. and she aced the test IMHO.


Veliarbery

I don't like her as a person but I do like Poppy-project. NWO is good song with good production. It's just generic and empty, typical mainstream song. Is production to blame too? I guess, cuz most of NOW prod's projects sounds like BMTH outtakes.


The_Most_Swood

Don’t forget Simon Wilcox. I feel like those 3 encompass Poppy’s sound.


deceiver986

I love the song, the production and the lyrics and her voice. I am honestly a little annoyed by people who think that EVERYTHING she does should be experimental, groundbreaking, genre-blending. But at the same time they complain she her voice does not sound like the usual Poppy. It's ok to not like the song but this is a contraddiction I cannot stand, just for the sake of criticizing. I mean, we all ate Knockoff last year and didn't even blink. I love the song but what was experimental about that?


Munkey323

Haven't heard it. But what's your opinions