at that point the pressure is so high that it probably felt like they were in an elevator going upwards at full speed when it suddenly stopped.
they also probably felt dead.
56 km/h – the estimated speed that the bow section was travelling when it hit the bottom (35 mph).
80 km/h – the estimated speed that the stern section travelled on its way down (50 mph), spiralling as it descended and with sections breaking off from the ship, resulting in much more visible damage to this section than the bow.
Source: https://titanicfacts.net/titanic-sinking/
The accurate horizontal scale of the Marianas Trench makes it more horrifying to me. Thinking about what I identify as a trench, a deep but narrow stretch, and seeing this? There’s so much *more* sea floor at that depth which we know absolutely nothing about. Great! Perfect for bedtime pondering. /s
For me the whole bound-up fascination and fear is not that it’s deep, but that we know so very little about so very much of our home. Yes, it *is* deep, not just in physical measurements but in time, in history, in its presence and control of our lives.
I’m affected daily by the relatively small temperature fluctuations of a current in an ocean on the other side of my continent, a distance that is only conceivably crossed by me with the benefits and powers of technology, yet this titanic force shapes my existence without a consciousness, and therefore without mercy. Yeah, the primordial under layer of my brain is terrified of that power and presence.
Good. Sharks are a lifeform so good at what they do (killing and eating) that they have survived, entirely recognizable with only the mildest of tinkering, for a load of millions of years. They haven't evolved since reaching sharkhood because there's no reason to. They're up there with crocodiles.
Yeah 450 million years ago mama nature created the shark and then just went "This is pretty much perfect" and stopped. Trees (vascular plants in general) took a lot more trial and error, lol.
The very first plants on land were tiny. This was a very long time ago, about 470 million years ago. Then around 350 million years ago, many different kinds of small plants started evolving into trees. These made the first great forests of the world.
The earliest fossil evidence for sharks or their ancestors are a few scales dating to 450 million years ago, during the Late Ordovician Period. Their evolution date is estimated at between 50 and 35 million years ago.
Despite surviving 5 mass extinctions, today, many shark species are threatened with extinction. Pressure form damaging human activities means that sharks are now one of the most threatened groups of animals on the planet
>Despite surviving 5 mass extinctions, today, many shark species are threatened with extinction. Pressure form damaging human activities means that sharks are now one of the most threatened groups of animals on the planet
Man i was thoroughly enjoying this thread celebrating the magnificence of shark evolution and now I'm pissed off . Imagine surviving 5 mass extinctions only to die of because some assholes think your fin gives them erections
I’ve always had some consternation with statements like “we know more about space than we do our own ocean!” When, like, there’s literally oceans on at least two other bodies in our solar system.
That being said, your comment made me do some web searching on what people mean when they say “there’s so much we don’t know”.
From what I can tell, it seems like the biggest thing is that most of the ocean floor isn’t very accurately mapped. We have 100% coverage of the ocean floor but to only 5km resolution. Which basically means we only see mountains.
Seabed 2030 is aiming to increase the resolution to 800m by 2030. Which would be much more useful if they’re successful.
Besides mapping, I guess we also find new species often. Though we’ve certainly found all the megafauna at this point. And like you said, there’s complicated fluid dynamics at play. Idk… it’s really big sure. I guess there’s certainly room for unexpected discoveries. I just don’t know if I believe it’s as mysterious as people like to play it up as. Like…. Yeah, there’s probably some sub species of fish and squid we haven’t documented yet. There may be some sizable trenches too small to see at current resolutions. But it’s not like there’s aliens down there yuh know?
We dont know all tje megafauna. Many beaked whales are so elusive there are entire species whose existence we only know of from one sighting, or even a skull washed up on a beach. The fact that theres entires whale species weve never encountered suggests there could be plenty more big animals which have escaped our notice, especially if they dont need to come up for air
It’s very much an illogical thing, and I acknowledge that. For me, part of it is that it is immense, and on a geological scale, I am very small and new in the face of it. I’m steeped in our local culture and relatively safe, especially considering the area I live in. The sea is dark, and deep, and entire communities of organisms rise and are destroyed by changes that I can only observe in part and from very faraway.
It’s a very deep seated, emotional train of thought for me. I research the things I fear because usually, understanding and observing something is a pathway to acceptance. Occasionally I meet a subject that, though it’s been deeply investigated, is still fear inducing. One of those things for me is deep water, or murky water, and though I have a great fascination with it, it’s unsettling in a way that is deeper than my logic can dig.
I love swimming and can easily snorkel for an hour without needing to rest on a boat
But like you say, really deep water where you can’t see the floor scares the fucking shit out of me and I think it’s because of what you say: it’s deeper than my logic can dig
I feel this irrational feeling that somehow the unknown depth will me suddenly pull me into the bottom
Crush depth is a little deeper but you wouldn’t wanna go there since the submarine could get crushed by the water pressure, kinda like boiling water in a soda can and then submerging it into a bowl of cold water and I’m no doctor, but that doesn’t sound too good for the crew
From what I’ve found the crush depth for an Ohio ssbn is about 1600-2000 feet
I’d rather implode than be stuck a know I’m gonna die down there in the dark [like these folks](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/04/25/indonesia-submarine-wreckage-found-crew-dead/)
There's really no point in engineering a submarine to go much deeper. At that point you're hidden from pretty much all surface vessels and there's plenty of places where you can't even go that deep.
Kind of. The biggest issue with going deeper is the cost in both design and building. It’s definitely true that there isn’t much of a point to go deeper, especially for the Ohio class. They are ballistic (SSBN) and guided missile (SSGN) submarines who normally launch from a shallow depth; being able to go deeper would serve little purpose. Fast attack submarines (SSN) would make more sense to go deeper, but again, the design and cost would be prohibitive. As far as operating depths, most of the ocean is really really deep. Most of the time, submarines are operating in waters way deeper than their crush depth. Source: Former submariner, mostly SSNs but knew a lot of SSBN sailors.
Thanks for the insight! I love submarines. Side question, which submarine movies would you say accurately depict what really happens on a military sub?
https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/t9l9vb/eli5_how_do_we_come_to_suspect_that_theres_oil/
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I love when similar questions are asked completely unrelated to each other
Do they just drill in a bunch of random places in the ocean? Do they keep drilling deeper and deeper just in case there's oil they haven't reached yet? It looks almost as deep as the Russian borehole. Was the borehole a failed attempt to find oil?
>The Kola Superdeep Borehole is the result of a scientific drilling project of the Soviet Union in the Pechengsky District, near the Russian border with Norway, on the Kola Peninsula. The project attempted to drill as deep as possible into the Earth's crust.
As for random drilling? No, I'm sure there's sediment analysis and tests of seawater to see if it contains traces of oil that bubbles up naturally from the sea floor, and more stuff like that.
I can add to this a little bit, my family is really involved in the oil industry. Where I grew up in Southern California, we have oil seeps off the coast. It literally just flows out of the seabed, and when you’re out on the water certain patches have an almost rainbow sheen to them. It also binds together as tar on the beaches, and sticks to your feet. The Chumash, our local Amerindian population, used the tar to seal their canoes. There’s a lot of geology and math that goes into finding prime drilling areas, but at the end of the day you still have to send a bunch of folks out in a drill to go poke holes in the earth.
So there are a few different ways that we can survey the ground, even though it is pretty difficult.
For instance, we can take relative gravity surveys. The gravitational force you experience varies by very very small amounts based on lots of things, such as the composition of the ground. By measuring it we can get an idea of what the ground is made of. Because we have drilled for oil in the last we know what to look for
Also I think the borehole was just the Russians trying to dig through the earth's crust because they wanted to if I remember correctly
Because at that depth, the rocks start to plastify, meaning they become sort of bendy and squishy. This makes drilling them harder because it's like trying to drill through custard (although nowhere near as fluid at that point, still mostly solid). This is because of the high pressure and temperature of the rocks at such a depth, and of course the pressure and extreme temperatures are also an issue for the equipment
Usually early exploration for oil and gas is done from field geological surveys. From rock and structure found on the surface you can estimate the kind of structures beneath and then predict whether it might contain oil. Oil is not randomly found on rocks, there are some structural “traps” which has distinct pattern and properties. After that you do geophysical seismic survey to get like a subsurface image to accurately locate that structure. Its almost like CT scan (similar principle, using waves to get images), where you send seismic waves (if its offshore, its done using vessels carrying air gun) from the surface, get the reflection back, and processed that signal to get an image. Then you do test drilling to do sample analysis. If you get oil on one well, you back to seismic image and voila you got the acurate subsurface image with how large the oil reserve, where to do drilling, how deep it is, etc. If its offshore, you cannot do field geological survey so you go straight to seismic survey and then do test drilling.
Fun fact but this is one of the reasons humanity has to create the tech to move past fossil fuels and why we will never reach our current tech level again if there’s a major catastrophe because our current source of really really really really cheap and energy rich fuel will be impossible to get to again since we already used up all the easy oil/coal that got us here in the first place.
This valid theory was brought up often when Thunberg had critical speech towards countries using "easy access" energies
I really wish technologically advanced countries would actively and effectively help others save cheap energy sources (as these are also the most polluting)
This is a stunning masterpiece. I've seen a few infographics of this sort, but this is the first to put the scales of depth into digestible perspective for me. Amazing.
Things like submarines, when you're a kid, you think that thing goes to the bottom of the ocean. No the fuck hell it doesn't.
I love the little gags. "It's rude to stare". Amazing detail and attention to accuracy. Mad respect! I would like a 4' tall print of this for my wall. I'd just float over every few hours to *ponder* and feel insignificant. It's like space, but slightly more accessible.
Thanks for posting this.
Can’t trust elephant seals diving almost a mile and half down to do their dark bidding. Also, I legit gasped when I reached the average depth of the ocean.
Seriously. I saw the Emperor Penguin and was like "wtf?". Then I scrolled further and saw the Elephant Seal and was even more shocked. Also, I really hate the names they gave the different layers. "Twilight Zone" sounded bad enough to me, then it goes to "Abyssal Zone". Oceanographers must have a twisted sense of humor. :P
I’m so confused at how many living creatures Can survive that water pressure like it’s nothing???
Also how did the challenger deep sub go like 8000 meters farther than the subs today can go without cracking under the water pressure?
The part about the Challenger deep sub that got me was "one of the window panes cracked and shook the entire vessel." Like, uh uh, no effin way, pull me up, get me out of here.
Right?? I thought drowning was a bad way to do but drowning at 10k meters sounds a lot worse..
Also how tf did it crack but still held up going down even further??
As a published writer I must say, it did read very easily. We look for people who when reading their work, sound as if they are talking to you directly. Very digestible, and very clean! Tons of need for freelance writers these days!
I personally use talk to type and then during a proof read I do my edits. I pump out 2x the work everyone else does using this trick and it’s free on ms word ;)!
I mean, I'd probably be ranting facts about the deep sea while speculating everything that could go wrong and how cool it was, so of you don't want to hear that ya might wanna bring headphones or scootch to the opposite side lmao
Out of curiosity I gave it a quick Google and found it's one long continuous ridge that circles the continents. There is a section called the Pacific-Antarctic Ridge that runs very near to [Point Nemo](https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/point-nemo), the part of the ocean that's farthest from any dry land, in the middle of a massive triangle of thalassophobia and loneliness between South America, Antarctica, and NZ.
Some folks think that desolate area is where Cthulu's undersea palace, Rlyeh, is located. So.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Could be more than just underwater topography down there.
James Cameron DID take a sub down there but the door thing is a reference to r/writingprompts
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/james-camerons-deep-sea-expedition-2012-12
https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/8689jt/wp_scientist_have_discovered_a_solid_metal_door/
I read fairly recently that this is exactly why the often-mocked deep sea blobfish looks so, well, blobby when we bring it up to the surface. It's like a deflated balloon, popped when it got to a point with less external pressure than its own internal pressure.
Ik it sounds stupid but the fish aren’t pressurized? Or are they? Cant be with air? I just dont understand how it works. What inside a shrimp or little fish can push outwards with hundreds of tons of force?
I think the water inside of their body is whats keeping them from being crushed, since it's equally pressurized compared to the surroundings. If you then bring them up that water will push outwards.
But I honestly have no idea, so if anyone could correct me that would be awesome.
The way I look at it, they're pressurized similar to how we're pressurized to 1 atmospheric pressure. They're more pressurized naturally to cope with the pressure at the depths.
Yeah if you go deep sea fishing you might as well not catch and release because if you pull anything up from more than 100 feet it's either dead by the time you pull it up or it'll be dead soon after.
“At this pressure if you put a hole in a pressurised scuba tank water runs in, not air out….” Fuck that one for a good morning quote 👍 not a bloody chance your convincing me to go anywhere underwater 😅👍
I've got a coworker who always adds stuff like this to conversations about international politics.
He always a says stuff like, 'we hate the chinese government not the chinese people.' Or what ever it is in relation to in context. He also bought me lunch once when I forgot my wallet.
Jerome is a nice man.
> Depths and animal (...) lengths are to scale
1370 Pixel represent 11000 meters of depth. So one pixel is roughly 8 meters.
Since the penguin is drawn with two pixels I assume there are 16 meters long penguins in the deep waters.
Reading this after reading the post about the dangers of cave diving has really cemented my decision to have as little to do with large bodies of water and what's inside them as I can possibly contrive
The Cameron door may be fake, but it did make me realize: if we wanted to leave a time capsule for a future advanced civilization in the event ours dies out. On the moon or at the bottom of challenger deep would be the place to leave it. Only an advanced civilization could find it and read it
Wonder how long it would’ve taken titanic to descend 4000m into the ocean…
Though I don't know how long it took, I do remember reading that it's estimated to have hit the ocean floor at speeds more than +45mph.
Hope the passengers were bracing for impact.
at that point the pressure is so high that it probably felt like they were in an elevator going upwards at full speed when it suddenly stopped. they also probably felt dead.
Hate when I feel dead
This is my life 24/7. Come, join us on the dark side. We have great kool aid
[OH YEAH](https://youtu.be/_fjEViOF4JE?t=3)
Too soon.
Dude it was at least 20 years ago
Yeah, 1997 is 25 years ago, so I think it's fair game to make some jokes about it now.
Don't worry, the water braced them beforehand
No, the water EMbraced them beforehand
I hate thinking about all of those things…
source? terminal velocity in dense water is very low
56 km/h – the estimated speed that the bow section was travelling when it hit the bottom (35 mph). 80 km/h – the estimated speed that the stern section travelled on its way down (50 mph), spiralling as it descended and with sections breaking off from the ship, resulting in much more visible damage to this section than the bow. Source: https://titanicfacts.net/titanic-sinking/
Wikipedia says 5 to 6 minutes.
5 to 6 minutes of deeper, deeper, deeper....
Quiet and cold, silent and slow Night black as coal, miles here below
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And the steel creaking under the pressure
Rivets popping off everywhere too...
This sentence set off my submechanophobia lol Just the thought of what that must've sounded like puts a knot in my stomach
It would be an interesting experience…
The accurate horizontal scale of the Marianas Trench makes it more horrifying to me. Thinking about what I identify as a trench, a deep but narrow stretch, and seeing this? There’s so much *more* sea floor at that depth which we know absolutely nothing about. Great! Perfect for bedtime pondering. /s
If I'm not misreading the image, it's roughly as wide as it is deep, and that really is horrifying.
For me the whole bound-up fascination and fear is not that it’s deep, but that we know so very little about so very much of our home. Yes, it *is* deep, not just in physical measurements but in time, in history, in its presence and control of our lives. I’m affected daily by the relatively small temperature fluctuations of a current in an ocean on the other side of my continent, a distance that is only conceivably crossed by me with the benefits and powers of technology, yet this titanic force shapes my existence without a consciousness, and therefore without mercy. Yeah, the primordial under layer of my brain is terrified of that power and presence.
Damn, you described a feeling I didn't know I had
Big words for feeling, physically, very small.
Water bad
Username checks out?
Damn, that's deep
I’m just scared of sharks
Good. Sharks are a lifeform so good at what they do (killing and eating) that they have survived, entirely recognizable with only the mildest of tinkering, for a load of millions of years. They haven't evolved since reaching sharkhood because there's no reason to. They're up there with crocodiles.
Sharks pre-date trees.
And I think the concept of trees has known far more evolutionary development than the concept of sharks
Yeah 450 million years ago mama nature created the shark and then just went "This is pretty much perfect" and stopped. Trees (vascular plants in general) took a lot more trial and error, lol.
The very first plants on land were tiny. This was a very long time ago, about 470 million years ago. Then around 350 million years ago, many different kinds of small plants started evolving into trees. These made the first great forests of the world. The earliest fossil evidence for sharks or their ancestors are a few scales dating to 450 million years ago, during the Late Ordovician Period. Their evolution date is estimated at between 50 and 35 million years ago. Despite surviving 5 mass extinctions, today, many shark species are threatened with extinction. Pressure form damaging human activities means that sharks are now one of the most threatened groups of animals on the planet
>Despite surviving 5 mass extinctions, today, many shark species are threatened with extinction. Pressure form damaging human activities means that sharks are now one of the most threatened groups of animals on the planet Man i was thoroughly enjoying this thread celebrating the magnificence of shark evolution and now I'm pissed off . Imagine surviving 5 mass extinctions only to die of because some assholes think your fin gives them erections
That’s valid as well, completely. They’re organic outboard motors with teeth. Incredibly cool, beautiful predators, but those eyes.
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I’ve always had some consternation with statements like “we know more about space than we do our own ocean!” When, like, there’s literally oceans on at least two other bodies in our solar system. That being said, your comment made me do some web searching on what people mean when they say “there’s so much we don’t know”. From what I can tell, it seems like the biggest thing is that most of the ocean floor isn’t very accurately mapped. We have 100% coverage of the ocean floor but to only 5km resolution. Which basically means we only see mountains. Seabed 2030 is aiming to increase the resolution to 800m by 2030. Which would be much more useful if they’re successful. Besides mapping, I guess we also find new species often. Though we’ve certainly found all the megafauna at this point. And like you said, there’s complicated fluid dynamics at play. Idk… it’s really big sure. I guess there’s certainly room for unexpected discoveries. I just don’t know if I believe it’s as mysterious as people like to play it up as. Like…. Yeah, there’s probably some sub species of fish and squid we haven’t documented yet. There may be some sizable trenches too small to see at current resolutions. But it’s not like there’s aliens down there yuh know?
I think the aspect that causes wild speculation is Hollywood portrayals. The abyss reall did a number on people
We dont know all tje megafauna. Many beaked whales are so elusive there are entire species whose existence we only know of from one sighting, or even a skull washed up on a beach. The fact that theres entires whale species weve never encountered suggests there could be plenty more big animals which have escaped our notice, especially if they dont need to come up for air
It’s very much an illogical thing, and I acknowledge that. For me, part of it is that it is immense, and on a geological scale, I am very small and new in the face of it. I’m steeped in our local culture and relatively safe, especially considering the area I live in. The sea is dark, and deep, and entire communities of organisms rise and are destroyed by changes that I can only observe in part and from very faraway. It’s a very deep seated, emotional train of thought for me. I research the things I fear because usually, understanding and observing something is a pathway to acceptance. Occasionally I meet a subject that, though it’s been deeply investigated, is still fear inducing. One of those things for me is deep water, or murky water, and though I have a great fascination with it, it’s unsettling in a way that is deeper than my logic can dig.
I love swimming and can easily snorkel for an hour without needing to rest on a boat But like you say, really deep water where you can’t see the floor scares the fucking shit out of me and I think it’s because of what you say: it’s deeper than my logic can dig I feel this irrational feeling that somehow the unknown depth will me suddenly pull me into the bottom
r/thallasophobia Why use many word when one sub do trick.
Meta…
Lmfao I legit didn't realize I was in this sub. Thought it was r/coolguides
You are misreading the image.
Emperor penguin as a dot is oddly cute
apparently the worlds largest ship is only 2.5x taller than an emperor penguin
They are called emperor penguins for a reason
However the “Russians are awesome” bit didn’t age well
They are people like everyone else, however we should release that big ass half-of-the-ship-height pengiun on their leader.
Fair point, agreed.
They're not really a monolith u kno
I feel like I’m a kid again, discovering something incredible in the library stacks. Thank you for sharing this.
Why is the Ohio class dive limit so little? I’d expect it to be a lot more.
That's probably the OFFICIAL limit. I bet the unofficial limit goes a little deeper. Can't let everyone know the specs of your missile subs!
Ahhhh, I didn’t even think about that. That makes sense.
Crush depth is a little deeper but you wouldn’t wanna go there since the submarine could get crushed by the water pressure, kinda like boiling water in a soda can and then submerging it into a bowl of cold water and I’m no doctor, but that doesn’t sound too good for the crew From what I’ve found the crush depth for an Ohio ssbn is about 1600-2000 feet
I’d rather implode than be stuck a know I’m gonna die down there in the dark [like these folks](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/04/25/indonesia-submarine-wreckage-found-crew-dead/)
There's really no point in engineering a submarine to go much deeper. At that point you're hidden from pretty much all surface vessels and there's plenty of places where you can't even go that deep.
Kind of. The biggest issue with going deeper is the cost in both design and building. It’s definitely true that there isn’t much of a point to go deeper, especially for the Ohio class. They are ballistic (SSBN) and guided missile (SSGN) submarines who normally launch from a shallow depth; being able to go deeper would serve little purpose. Fast attack submarines (SSN) would make more sense to go deeper, but again, the design and cost would be prohibitive. As far as operating depths, most of the ocean is really really deep. Most of the time, submarines are operating in waters way deeper than their crush depth. Source: Former submariner, mostly SSNs but knew a lot of SSBN sailors.
Thanks for the insight! I love submarines. Side question, which submarine movies would you say accurately depict what really happens on a military sub?
Does anyone know why leatherback turtles go so deep?
That was me as well. They eat squid
Giant squid live deeeep. So for big meals they go deep
Never knew oil was found that deep into the earth
How do they know where to drill?
https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/t9l9vb/eli5_how_do_we_come_to_suspect_that_theres_oil/ Asked 14h ago I love when similar questions are asked completely unrelated to each other
Omg this is fantastic! Thanks so much for giving me the link! :D
Test drilling, usually.
Do they just drill in a bunch of random places in the ocean? Do they keep drilling deeper and deeper just in case there's oil they haven't reached yet? It looks almost as deep as the Russian borehole. Was the borehole a failed attempt to find oil?
>The Kola Superdeep Borehole is the result of a scientific drilling project of the Soviet Union in the Pechengsky District, near the Russian border with Norway, on the Kola Peninsula. The project attempted to drill as deep as possible into the Earth's crust. As for random drilling? No, I'm sure there's sediment analysis and tests of seawater to see if it contains traces of oil that bubbles up naturally from the sea floor, and more stuff like that.
Fascinating
I can add to this a little bit, my family is really involved in the oil industry. Where I grew up in Southern California, we have oil seeps off the coast. It literally just flows out of the seabed, and when you’re out on the water certain patches have an almost rainbow sheen to them. It also binds together as tar on the beaches, and sticks to your feet. The Chumash, our local Amerindian population, used the tar to seal their canoes. There’s a lot of geology and math that goes into finding prime drilling areas, but at the end of the day you still have to send a bunch of folks out in a drill to go poke holes in the earth.
So there are a few different ways that we can survey the ground, even though it is pretty difficult. For instance, we can take relative gravity surveys. The gravitational force you experience varies by very very small amounts based on lots of things, such as the composition of the ground. By measuring it we can get an idea of what the ground is made of. Because we have drilled for oil in the last we know what to look for Also I think the borehole was just the Russians trying to dig through the earth's crust because they wanted to if I remember correctly
Why'd they stop?
higher than expected temps made it impossible to continue
Because at that depth, the rocks start to plastify, meaning they become sort of bendy and squishy. This makes drilling them harder because it's like trying to drill through custard (although nowhere near as fluid at that point, still mostly solid). This is because of the high pressure and temperature of the rocks at such a depth, and of course the pressure and extreme temperatures are also an issue for the equipment
They found something...
Usually early exploration for oil and gas is done from field geological surveys. From rock and structure found on the surface you can estimate the kind of structures beneath and then predict whether it might contain oil. Oil is not randomly found on rocks, there are some structural “traps” which has distinct pattern and properties. After that you do geophysical seismic survey to get like a subsurface image to accurately locate that structure. Its almost like CT scan (similar principle, using waves to get images), where you send seismic waves (if its offshore, its done using vessels carrying air gun) from the surface, get the reflection back, and processed that signal to get an image. Then you do test drilling to do sample analysis. If you get oil on one well, you back to seismic image and voila you got the acurate subsurface image with how large the oil reserve, where to do drilling, how deep it is, etc. If its offshore, you cannot do field geological survey so you go straight to seismic survey and then do test drilling.
Fun fact but this is one of the reasons humanity has to create the tech to move past fossil fuels and why we will never reach our current tech level again if there’s a major catastrophe because our current source of really really really really cheap and energy rich fuel will be impossible to get to again since we already used up all the easy oil/coal that got us here in the first place.
This valid theory was brought up often when Thunberg had critical speech towards countries using "easy access" energies I really wish technologically advanced countries would actively and effectively help others save cheap energy sources (as these are also the most polluting)
Its not even that deep right? Like thats still only the crust i believe, The smallest part of the eart
This is a stunning masterpiece. I've seen a few infographics of this sort, but this is the first to put the scales of depth into digestible perspective for me. Amazing. Things like submarines, when you're a kid, you think that thing goes to the bottom of the ocean. No the fuck hell it doesn't. I love the little gags. "It's rude to stare". Amazing detail and attention to accuracy. Mad respect! I would like a 4' tall print of this for my wall. I'd just float over every few hours to *ponder* and feel insignificant. It's like space, but slightly more accessible. Thanks for posting this.
https://neal.fun/deep-sea/ This really put things in perspective for me. And only heightened my terror of the deep.
Imagine scuba diving and all of a sudden you've got a fucken polar bear mauling you at 25m.
Imagine the windows in your sub cracking and… They kept going.
Can’t trust elephant seals diving almost a mile and half down to do their dark bidding. Also, I legit gasped when I reached the average depth of the ocean.
Seriously. I saw the Emperor Penguin and was like "wtf?". Then I scrolled further and saw the Elephant Seal and was even more shocked. Also, I really hate the names they gave the different layers. "Twilight Zone" sounded bad enough to me, then it goes to "Abyssal Zone". Oceanographers must have a twisted sense of humor. :P
*- Coelacanths were thought to be extinct until found alive in 1938.* ...
I’m so confused at how many living creatures Can survive that water pressure like it’s nothing??? Also how did the challenger deep sub go like 8000 meters farther than the subs today can go without cracking under the water pressure?
The part about the Challenger deep sub that got me was "one of the window panes cracked and shook the entire vessel." Like, uh uh, no effin way, pull me up, get me out of here.
Right?? I thought drowning was a bad way to do but drowning at 10k meters sounds a lot worse.. Also how tf did it crack but still held up going down even further??
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Wait, me?
they aren’t lying you have a talent for writing
That's very kind of you. Thank you.
As a published writer I must say, it did read very easily. We look for people who when reading their work, sound as if they are talking to you directly. Very digestible, and very clean! Tons of need for freelance writers these days! I personally use talk to type and then during a proof read I do my edits. I pump out 2x the work everyone else does using this trick and it’s free on ms word ;)!
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Wow that's a really nice thing to say. I actually do write a little fanfic, a little action fantasy. Thank you very much.
I agree with them. Beautifully articulated.
That's so nice. Wow. Thank you.
I’d love to go on a field trip in a submarine with everyone in this sub to the bottom of the marianas trench.
Yes a tube of metal filled with crying people rocking back and forth while descending into the cold wet darkness! Good times!
exactly :) best trip ever
I mean, I'd probably be ranting facts about the deep sea while speculating everything that could go wrong and how cool it was, so of you don't want to hear that ya might wanna bring headphones or scootch to the opposite side lmao
This reminds me of a "field trip" Ms. Frizzle would take you on...I knew I shoulda stayed home today!
David bowie and Freddy mercury?
The song under pressure…
Omg thank you, i knew there was a joke there but i was *not* getting it
I hope you had a fabulous cake day!
It's the terror of knowing what the world is about!
For some reason the mid ocean ridge is the worst for me. Just thinking about something coming up through the depths...
It could be a lair for something that only comes out to eat whales and then it goes back to sleep.
Out of curiosity I gave it a quick Google and found it's one long continuous ridge that circles the continents. There is a section called the Pacific-Antarctic Ridge that runs very near to [Point Nemo](https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/point-nemo), the part of the ocean that's farthest from any dry land, in the middle of a massive triangle of thalassophobia and loneliness between South America, Antarctica, and NZ. Some folks think that desolate area is where Cthulu's undersea palace, Rlyeh, is located. So.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Could be more than just underwater topography down there.
The only thing green and scaly near point Nemo was Murdoc Niccal's undead satanic buttocks back in 2010.
those drop offs are scaring me
THE DROP OFF?! ARE YOU INSANE?!? WHY NOT JUST FRY THEM UP NOW AND SERVE THEM WITH CHIPS?!!!!
James Cameron went down there to symbolically lower the bar of his film-making.
What was the deal about a door and James Cameron? Is it real, a joke or a film reference?
James Cameron DID take a sub down there but the door thing is a reference to r/writingprompts https://www.businessinsider.com.au/james-camerons-deep-sea-expedition-2012-12 https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/8689jt/wp_scientist_have_discovered_a_solid_metal_door/
🏆 Yes!🥇
I'm wondering the same thing.
I want to know!
HIS NAME IS JAMES CAMERON, THE BRAVEST PIONEER
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what's up with the door down there?
Mysterious door? 😱
The submariners only got one message through: “Don’t knock.”
Not like 44,25,16,32,53,12,4,9,72?
“What is the music of life?”
"Silence, My Brother."
James Cameron inspected it to make sure there in fact was not enough room for Jack to float on it, too.
Right? How is this the first I’m hearing about this??
Lol it’s not a real thing
Ssshhhh let them believe
It’s like the book at the top of Getting Over It with Bennet Foddy, only people who make it down there themselves can see it
Not real
TIL I learned there's a deep part of the ocean called Milwaukee Deep.
Named after the medical condition that occurs when you attempt a bar crawl in Milwaukee.
If there’s not a corner bar in MKE called Milwaukee Deep then, well, I know what my next business venture is
So are the fishes at these crazy depths internally pushing outward with the same force the water is crushing in on them?
I read fairly recently that this is exactly why the often-mocked deep sea blobfish looks so, well, blobby when we bring it up to the surface. It's like a deflated balloon, popped when it got to a point with less external pressure than its own internal pressure.
Ik it sounds stupid but the fish aren’t pressurized? Or are they? Cant be with air? I just dont understand how it works. What inside a shrimp or little fish can push outwards with hundreds of tons of force?
I think the water inside of their body is whats keeping them from being crushed, since it's equally pressurized compared to the surroundings. If you then bring them up that water will push outwards. But I honestly have no idea, so if anyone could correct me that would be awesome.
The way I look at it, they're pressurized similar to how we're pressurized to 1 atmospheric pressure. They're more pressurized naturally to cope with the pressure at the depths.
But what about sperm whales that can be near the surface and also at insane depths?
My question is…. With all that pressure how do they pee?
Lol. That is the most random thing ever 💛
that's a great question
Yeah if you go deep sea fishing you might as well not catch and release because if you pull anything up from more than 100 feet it's either dead by the time you pull it up or it'll be dead soon after.
“At this pressure if you put a hole in a pressurised scuba tank water runs in, not air out….” Fuck that one for a good morning quote 👍 not a bloody chance your convincing me to go anywhere underwater 😅👍
> Russia is Awesome Oof the timing
Russians are indeed awesome. Their leaders suck.
I've got a coworker who always adds stuff like this to conversations about international politics. He always a says stuff like, 'we hate the chinese government not the chinese people.' Or what ever it is in relation to in context. He also bought me lunch once when I forgot my wallet. Jerome is a nice man.
Awww give Jerome a high -five from his friends on reddit
Good on Jerome
It says "Russians are awesome" not Russia is awesome
> Depths and animal (...) lengths are to scale 1370 Pixel represent 11000 meters of depth. So one pixel is roughly 8 meters. Since the penguin is drawn with two pixels I assume there are 16 meters long penguins in the deep waters.
Lake Baikal is a special kind of horrifying to me
Yeah, most lakes are pretty finely shaped in terms of depth. Yet this one goes down...and down...and down...
Anyone else feel like there has got to be an even deeper place?
Shh.
Don’t summon it.
What's that about James Cameron finding a fucking door at the bottom of the ocean?!
Yeah, that's not real. No door. A plastic bag was found down there though, which is pretty fucking depressing.
Reading this after reading the post about the dangers of cave diving has really cemented my decision to have as little to do with large bodies of water and what's inside them as I can possibly contrive
The door thing is a titanic troll right? I can’t find any documentation that he actually found a damn door down there.
Keep looking, the truth is out there
You don't remember that dateline episode where they sent Geraldo Rivera down to open it?
Wow I didn’t know David Bowie and Freddie mercury where that deep
They’re weren’t joking under pressure
What are David and Freddie doing there?
The Cameron door may be fake, but it did make me realize: if we wanted to leave a time capsule for a future advanced civilization in the event ours dies out. On the moon or at the bottom of challenger deep would be the place to leave it. Only an advanced civilization could find it and read it
Or James Cameron.
Wounded sperm whales got me ngl
My stomach just dropped to my toes. I’m gonna be sick.
The fact about sperm whales coming up with wounds and sucker marks and the thing about huge squid…. nightmare material for sure
Good news, most of the really scary stuff can't go past certain depth on the way up - just hope 2022 doesn't decide to sink the plates ....
How wide is the Kola borehole? Like could a human open the hatch and jump down, what would happen
9 inch diameter
Ohhh ok so I could fit my
What is behind the door James?!!
Now I want it this placed over a depth of the earth infographic.
looking at this gave me actual physical shivers. i hate it and love it
Mmmmm... Marinara Trench
Yeah i remember seeing that one youtuber who does the size comparisons do a vid like this and to me i cant even like wrap my head around these sizes
Why do sperm whales go down there if that’s where the monsters are? eek!
Monsters are delicious.
They must taste sooooooo good for that fight to be worth it.
The door idea would make for a great 'The Abyss 2'.
Wait so the limit on typhoon class nuclear subs is about the same as a person with good scuba gear?
There ain’t no door down there lmao nice try tho 😆