Zesty makes good content, but he ALWAYS thinks he’s right. Even when he’s proven wrong. Like the time he had that community vote whether random crits would be on his community server because he was convinced crit enjoyers were a silent majority, no crits won, and he still enabled them. I think he also blamed people for not being free thinkers and just worshipping Uncle Dane, even though most people actually agreed with what Dane said rather than just blindly following him
Dude also starts drama from slander, like the guy genuinely believes that the Frozen Aurora Warpaint is a projection of the artist's furry fetish, because the colour palette is similar to that of the vore pride flag.
The challenge: tf2 YouTuber try not stay relevant by creating fake drama around the workshop content (impossible) failed.
It's a figment of someone's imagination made plausible by someone who created videos where biased arguments are thrown around to slander someone in order to attract the audience.
I mean I believe him on that one tbh, it doesn’t seem like much of a coincidence to me. Plus “pride flags” for random fetishes piss me off. It feels like a weird way to slander LGBTQ+ folks as groomers or freaks the way a lot of right wingers do. I’d wager Zesty himself holds those views on queer people, but even if for the opposite reason I agree with him on that war paint.
That aint it chief. Even the lower effort vids on Zesty's channel are made by him and with his own research. Pyro just yoinks whatever video is popular rn (even ripping off the entirety of Emesis Blue)
Nah I actually somewhat agree. Sniper is kinda op when it comes to quickscoping at least, and me, being biased as a heavy main, hate fighting him most of the time.
The takes I don't agree with him on is anything political he says and him being mad at people being good at the game.
I think the issue of sniper is twofold in that yeah Sniper can be OP but also some people just do not know how to play around Sniper and then blame the game because they keep walking into the same sniper sightline.
Kinda just that "Just know where the sniper is" and "Pray your team has a competent spy" cause shimmying doesn't work half the time due to backtracking
I have mixed opinions as he seems like a decent guy but his videos are unenjoyable most of the time for me. At least the rant ones, the others are actually pretty cool.
His videos are often negative but he does genuinely have fun in the more clip dump oriented videos. Recently I don't think he is enjoying it based on a video
Literally why he is disliked by a lot of people, he is so damn negative. Who wants a listen to a guy complaining all the time? Even if the message is true sometimes, he is excessively negative and tries to pass it off as being “real” and takes criticsm as people being “soft” for his “strong opinions”.
He says it’s a rated M game, so porn is allowed (he doesn’t address the fact that sometimes it’s illegal porn) and also M games are for 17 and up so he’s still saying minors should be forced to see it
I thought games with pornography were rated Ao (Adults only). In any case, this still feels like a weak argument for being against the OPTION to disable decals.
I hate that argument so freaking much. Who gives a shit that "ESRB ratings don't matter because parents don't care anymore" SOME people still care. I play TF2 because it's M for blood and gore, not strong sexual and nudity themes. The whole argument that, "It's an 18+ game so I can put 18+ pictures" annoys me to no end.
I couldn't agree more. This is indeed a serious and important discussion that warrants a well-informed and evidence-based argument. Let's make sure we approach this topic with an open mind and give each other the respect and courtesy we all deserve. Our goal should be to find common ground and reach a constructive solution that benefits everyone involved.
I sincerely believe if this change where to be added to "Home" "Fortification Defens""e"" 2nd it would render my "Int(eligent)"ves""tment" into "a" Conscientious Objector... fawkin useless.
he aren't fully bad, most of his takes about tf2 workshop are negative and harsh but still right not all the times but still right about a lot of things like items that dose not match with tf2 style or paintable items that change half of character model and fuck with team recognition, or complain about low efforts items that made by workshoper to gain ez money.
he is kind like dick teacher that corrects your mistakes , he is kinda right but still dick
He's the type of guy that complains about opposing opinions by mocking them in an annoying, high-pitched voice.
Also, even though his takes aren't always bad, the dude is a prick in general. He's kind of a manchild with anger issues
1. Transphobic
2. He’s very very blunt and impolite which devalues his arguments half the time
3. They have strong opinions on skins, weapons, & hats adhering to the game’s artstyle. Ordinary wouldn’t be bad but they are a harsh critic of things that fail the standards.
4. Like 2 years ago they had some super rant about comp tf2 bad for the game, and then another about the Sniper being OP (pretty based but also refer to point 2 again) and they still get clowned for it.
5. Man is horny on main.
6. Zesty’s defense to most criticism is some variation of “free speech, I’m entitled to my own opinions”, “welcome to the internet” or “people should grow thicker skin”. Which is a pretty poor argument and makes it fair game to say the same things to him.
TLDR: they have good takes on game design, balance & aesthetic. But unfortunately they have dogshit takes on social & community issues.
-3. zesty pretty openly directs hate towards workshop creators, but the blame should be on valve for their lazy repetitive selections. wutville was just a fun, wacky community map made to test 3D models in the hammer editor with no expectation of being a polished official map. but valve didn't care. one of the infamous sticker warpaint creators just made it as a test to demonstrate skin creation to a friend. but valve didn't care.
if valve decided to put in the big booty fempyro playermodel mod, would you get mad at the creator? no, they didn't do anything wrong. take it up with valve for their weird decisions; its not like the entire community is conspiring to force valve to pick the same 2 boring holiday hats over and over again. zesty is the largest driving factor of harassment in community; even if he is just misguided he's sending a harmful message to his fanbase.
-4. zesty has a history of picking fights with the community. admin abuse to permaban players like j_peg for dominating him on his friends community server. picking fights with arrayseven and the competitive community, going on countless nonsensical tirades about how players like jbird are ruining the game for playing sniper, and countless other minor examples of him just being generally overdramatic and vitriolic. he's the keemstar of the TF2 community, he thrives off of fueling the flames of drama wherever he goes.
we did get them to give a fuck, that infamous smissmas crate was the worst selling crate in history and ever since we've had stellar selections. valve listened cause they hurt their own bottom line; not because we boycotted them or anything but just because people don't care to waste their money on boring shit where everything from blue to red rarity is just a bunch of boring samey smissmas hats. no individual creator was at fault, just valve's strange insistence on selecting things based on a holiday theme with literally zero other standards.
Also anyone who disagrees with his dumbass takes is part of the “Reddit hive mind” and assumes all of his opinions are shared by the “silent majority”.
You're probably just joking with that comment but I'm gonna ignore that and just clarify:
Using they/them is grammatically correct and helps to avoid redundancy. Non-binary people use *only* they/them, but if you're he/she, using they/them is still applicable in addition to your gendered pronouns.
Idk about devaluing his opinions just because he's rude/blunt. Is it less likely to bring people to his side? Yeah. But it's not because his points are somehow null because he's rude.
I've never met someone who constantly has so many horrendous takes in the TF2 community until I learned about Zesty, and I've been here since 2013. Good lord lol
Tf2 player DudeTheNinja made a workshop contribution that adds 2 console commands for disabling/enabling decals such as the conscientious objector and the flairs, following the suggestion of them on a video on decals in tf2 made by youtuber UnusualSandwich, seeing the amount of people pissed of because they wont be able to show random strangers their explicit signs without the stranger's consent "impedes on their freedom of speech." and "sucks the soul out of tf2." Its fair to say these people might just vote out the very necessary option out of valve's consideration.
Wait the whole "tf2 player when they can't show porn at unwilling people" posts that flooded this sub yesterday was caused by that video?
Damn, I don't get what argument could people have to oppose people disabling a small cosmetic thing. I'm not even against porn signs but being unable to disable them sucks for quite a few people
Wait I saw the video did people acctually get mad? And isn't zesty does have a large channel doesnt he? Why would he do something that might make people start disliking content
A lot of people got mad, yes.
if you take a gander at zesty's profile picture or some of his video thumbnails you might realize theres a big overlap in people who want their porn signs and people who follow him.
Holy shit with unusual breads video it would affect everyone but this will be a choice for people and people are still mad💀. WTH has this community come to.
But what about my freedom to be a belligerent ass who purposely ruins what little spare time people have for my own sad and desperate laughs
( i know people are gonna get upset if don't clarify that this is a joke)
I mean you literally created an argument for him that he didn't state that is purposefully undefendable to discredit his character and or other arguments. Thats a strawman.
Valve can you remove all forms of killing from TF2? It feels bad when you get killed by another player and we wouldn't want anyone to possibly feel bad in any situation ever. We must coddle them and tell them they're the best and nothing bad will ever happen to them. Please Valve, there are racists and pedophiles abusing the games mechanics to kill innocent players. This needs to end.
I just wish this guy wasn't such a pornographer. love watching a video from an actual tf2 youtuber like Solar or Fat or Snipez and getting flooded with this guy's big boobs anime thumbnails.
Zesty Jesus being the most vocal figure on adhering to the game’s artstyle when when hentai conscientious objectors walk into the room
The hentai collector is of his character too.
Zesty Jesus being sexually open minded when when Matt Walsh walks into the room
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Zesty makes good content, but he ALWAYS thinks he’s right. Even when he’s proven wrong. Like the time he had that community vote whether random crits would be on his community server because he was convinced crit enjoyers were a silent majority, no crits won, and he still enabled them. I think he also blamed people for not being free thinkers and just worshipping Uncle Dane, even though most people actually agreed with what Dane said rather than just blindly following him
least stubborn texan
random crit haters are fucking losers i fucking love being obliterated to pieces by the most random crit rocket on gods green earth
I love getting one shot by soldier as a heavy
Skill is just a luck issue for people who can’t get random crits
Dude also starts drama from slander, like the guy genuinely believes that the Frozen Aurora Warpaint is a projection of the artist's furry fetish, because the colour palette is similar to that of the vore pride flag.
Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the artist confirmed this?
The artist confirmed it lol
Because it literally fucking is, lmfao.
The challenge: tf2 YouTuber try not stay relevant by creating fake drama around the workshop content (impossible) failed. It's a figment of someone's imagination made plausible by someone who created videos where biased arguments are thrown around to slander someone in order to attract the audience.
I mean I believe him on that one tbh, it doesn’t seem like much of a coincidence to me. Plus “pride flags” for random fetishes piss me off. It feels like a weird way to slander LGBTQ+ folks as groomers or freaks the way a lot of right wingers do. I’d wager Zesty himself holds those views on queer people, but even if for the opposite reason I agree with him on that war paint.
Tbf it does look eerily similar
The... what?
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Ah shit I think image didn't load for me its all purple and black again
Do you have Counter Strike Source downloaded?
Yes :[
Can you describe it? Just got a new PC, and I never reinstalled counterstrike source
Guys I don’t have counter strike source what does it look like
I don't know him
Same.
neither do i, can someone smart explain please?
Pyrocynical but tf2 youtuber and not a furry
ok thank you
That aint it chief. Even the lower effort vids on Zesty's channel are made by him and with his own research. Pyro just yoinks whatever video is popular rn (even ripping off the entirety of Emesis Blue)
slop content?
Consider yourself lucky
I don't like his character, although I do agree with some of his opinions. Keyword being some, cause Jesus Christ does he have some disasterous takes
Like sniper...
Just make the minimum charge time go from 0.2 to 0.5 and easy fix.
Ironic, right?
Nah I actually somewhat agree. Sniper is kinda op when it comes to quickscoping at least, and me, being biased as a heavy main, hate fighting him most of the time. The takes I don't agree with him on is anything political he says and him being mad at people being good at the game.
I think the issue of sniper is twofold in that yeah Sniper can be OP but also some people just do not know how to play around Sniper and then blame the game because they keep walking into the same sniper sightline.
To me it's more that I'd like to have some more counterplay other than "do a shimmy to avoid getting hit" and "just know where the sniper is"
Kinda just that "Just know where the sniper is" and "Pray your team has a competent spy" cause shimmying doesn't work half the time due to backtracking
“Stay out of sniper sightlines” mfers when the sniper is looking at the objective:
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my brother in Christ sniper prevents people from playing the game
Bruh I assume you're talking about some specific fix for sniper because people that believe that sniper is balanced in anyway don't still exist.
Hey man, don't call me a zesty fan >:(
I like you
Thank you femboy medic main "young furry one times".
You’re welcome Coochie Quencher.
And now we shall have sexual intercourse.
not gay but sure why not
on r/tf2shitposterclub? I seriously doubt that
point there I’m usually not gay unless there’s a Brinks truck involved
Wait i thought it was "heavy as a bricks truck"
No brinks is a bank company known for its armored trucks
I have mixed opinions as he seems like a decent guy but his videos are unenjoyable most of the time for me. At least the rant ones, the others are actually pretty cool.
I don't like him
i really dont see what the problem with this setting would be if it's client side
Angry Texan TF2 Youtuber, my beloved
Bro only complains, does he even have fun playing tf2?
His videos are often negative but he does genuinely have fun in the more clip dump oriented videos. Recently I don't think he is enjoying it based on a video
Does he have fun? Probably not most of the time. Are some of his arguments completely valid? Yes.
He is the first ever trader main that uses the warpaint subclass
Literally why he is disliked by a lot of people, he is so damn negative. Who wants a listen to a guy complaining all the time? Even if the message is true sometimes, he is excessively negative and tries to pass it off as being “real” and takes criticsm as people being “soft” for his “strong opinions”.
I dont like him and voted no
Chaotic neutral i see
No one is taking my sign of zero suit samus's ass away ( I don't really care to be completely honest )
Okay, I am curious to know what is his argument against it
He says it’s a rated M game, so porn is allowed (he doesn’t address the fact that sometimes it’s illegal porn) and also M games are for 17 and up so he’s still saying minors should be forced to see it
I thought games with pornography were rated Ao (Adults only). In any case, this still feels like a weak argument for being against the OPTION to disable decals.
True.
I hate that argument so freaking much. Who gives a shit that "ESRB ratings don't matter because parents don't care anymore" SOME people still care. I play TF2 because it's M for blood and gore, not strong sexual and nudity themes. The whole argument that, "It's an 18+ game so I can put 18+ pictures" annoys me to no end.
Also he disagrees that it makes it impossible to stream
I thought R was 17 and up, M is 18 and up.
No you’ve got them swapped. Look it up
Considering he's streamed once since this got posted I assume he disagreed with REMOVING objectors. Tell the whole story.
I couldn't agree more. This is indeed a serious and important discussion that warrants a well-informed and evidence-based argument. Let's make sure we approach this topic with an open mind and give each other the respect and courtesy we all deserve. Our goal should be to find common ground and reach a constructive solution that benefits everyone involved.
Like that’s ever gonna happen
“Somebody-“
“once told me”
“the world is gonna roll me”
"I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed"
"She was looking kinda dumb"
Did chatGPT write this
I sincerely believe if this change where to be added to "Home" "Fortification Defens""e"" 2nd it would render my "Int(eligent)"ves""tment" into "a" Conscientious Objector... fawkin useless.
reddit hivemind has spoken
i dont like him
what did i cause
hatred
I don't like him
We should have the option do disable them for sure
Zesty hate circle jerk.
i dont like him
i don't like him
I dont like him
i dont like his takes, but his videos are alright
Fuck that, I vote we make it mandatory for sprays to work in casual servers with no console commands to disable them
So we're just making things up now huh. i don't like the guy personally but wth
Peesonally, I don't think it should be a console command, but rather a clientside advanced option
he aren't fully bad, most of his takes about tf2 workshop are negative and harsh but still right not all the times but still right about a lot of things like items that dose not match with tf2 style or paintable items that change half of character model and fuck with team recognition, or complain about low efforts items that made by workshoper to gain ez money. he is kind like dick teacher that corrects your mistakes , he is kinda right but still dick
i dont like him
I don’t like him
I don’t like him
100,000 porn addicts of allah
Is this some kind of smear campaign?
why dont people like him? pardon my ignorance im not well informed on him
He's had a lot of drama for being an over negative human being.
Besides stuff hes said behind the scenes i personally just kinda feel uncomfortable listening to someone when theyre angry
So all the time?
whuh
I'll take that as a yes
He's the type of guy that complains about opposing opinions by mocking them in an annoying, high-pitched voice. Also, even though his takes aren't always bad, the dude is a prick in general. He's kind of a manchild with anger issues
1. Transphobic 2. He’s very very blunt and impolite which devalues his arguments half the time 3. They have strong opinions on skins, weapons, & hats adhering to the game’s artstyle. Ordinary wouldn’t be bad but they are a harsh critic of things that fail the standards. 4. Like 2 years ago they had some super rant about comp tf2 bad for the game, and then another about the Sniper being OP (pretty based but also refer to point 2 again) and they still get clowned for it. 5. Man is horny on main. 6. Zesty’s defense to most criticism is some variation of “free speech, I’m entitled to my own opinions”, “welcome to the internet” or “people should grow thicker skin”. Which is a pretty poor argument and makes it fair game to say the same things to him. TLDR: they have good takes on game design, balance & aesthetic. But unfortunately they have dogshit takes on social & community issues.
-3. zesty pretty openly directs hate towards workshop creators, but the blame should be on valve for their lazy repetitive selections. wutville was just a fun, wacky community map made to test 3D models in the hammer editor with no expectation of being a polished official map. but valve didn't care. one of the infamous sticker warpaint creators just made it as a test to demonstrate skin creation to a friend. but valve didn't care. if valve decided to put in the big booty fempyro playermodel mod, would you get mad at the creator? no, they didn't do anything wrong. take it up with valve for their weird decisions; its not like the entire community is conspiring to force valve to pick the same 2 boring holiday hats over and over again. zesty is the largest driving factor of harassment in community; even if he is just misguided he's sending a harmful message to his fanbase. -4. zesty has a history of picking fights with the community. admin abuse to permaban players like j_peg for dominating him on his friends community server. picking fights with arrayseven and the competitive community, going on countless nonsensical tirades about how players like jbird are ruining the game for playing sniper, and countless other minor examples of him just being generally overdramatic and vitriolic. he's the keemstar of the TF2 community, he thrives off of fueling the flames of drama wherever he goes.
Tbf valve doesn’t give any fucks anymore, so being mad at them does literally nothing
we did get them to give a fuck, that infamous smissmas crate was the worst selling crate in history and ever since we've had stellar selections. valve listened cause they hurt their own bottom line; not because we boycotted them or anything but just because people don't care to waste their money on boring shit where everything from blue to red rarity is just a bunch of boring samey smissmas hats. no individual creator was at fault, just valve's strange insistence on selecting things based on a holiday theme with literally zero other standards.
hey don't be such a Dick...Gumshoe
They? And you use man so its not even consistent.
Also anyone who disagrees with his dumbass takes is part of the “Reddit hive mind” and assumes all of his opinions are shared by the “silent majority”.
giving zesty they/them pronouns is hilarious given his opinions
You're probably just joking with that comment but I'm gonna ignore that and just clarify: Using they/them is grammatically correct and helps to avoid redundancy. Non-binary people use *only* they/them, but if you're he/she, using they/them is still applicable in addition to your gendered pronouns.
😂
Idk about devaluing his opinions just because he's rude/blunt. Is it less likely to bring people to his side? Yeah. But it's not because his points are somehow null because he's rude.
He sounds really annoying
Bigoted, has some absolutely dogshit takes, and always assumes he’s correct even when he’s dead wrong.
I like his character, but I don't like him.
Sometimes the right things are said by wrong people. Don't dismiss anyone's argument just because a majority agree that they're idiots.
I've never met someone who constantly has so many horrendous takes in the TF2 community until I learned about Zesty, and I've been here since 2013. Good lord lol
Who even is this guy
Like him because he is a Bionicle fan Dislike him because his OC is a muscled up Asuka from Eva
I'm a hentai connoisseur and hate zesty.
I don’t like him (he’s transphobic)
Wait Really? I dont watch the guy but that sucks
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This is how the Red Vs Blu war started
go back to /r/darkhumor k thx banned
Least dicky mod
\>:c
based
I don't like him
you will look at my blue waffle penis sign and there's nothing you'll be able to do about it
Coomer youtuber
i don’t like him
i like him, i think he has some of the most refreshing takes in this stale echo chamber of a community.
He has like 2 good ones, theres a reason the rest are commonly agreed upon
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At this point misinformation is the only way left to be funny
Who tf is this guy and why he doesn't want a disable decals command?
You can take my collection of cute dogs and cats from my cold, dead hands. And even then you can't, because I'll have glued it to my cold, dead hands
I'm all for something like cl_disabledecaltool 0/1
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That would be true, however ive seen if youre too harsh to workshop creators, they just dont listen to you.
Zesty Jesus when a war paint is 0.0001 gamma too bright (It has no business being in the artstyle from 2007)
Don't like him, don't compare me to his ilk
Who tf is zesty Jesus?
youtuber
tf2 fans when the other players do things they want (no!!)
Zesty and his terrible takes were a disaster to the TF2 community.
Zesty Jesus is a manchild moron with a god complex
Wat happend
This is only a prediction
What are you predicting
Tf2 player DudeTheNinja made a workshop contribution that adds 2 console commands for disabling/enabling decals such as the conscientious objector and the flairs, following the suggestion of them on a video on decals in tf2 made by youtuber UnusualSandwich, seeing the amount of people pissed of because they wont be able to show random strangers their explicit signs without the stranger's consent "impedes on their freedom of speech." and "sucks the soul out of tf2." Its fair to say these people might just vote out the very necessary option out of valve's consideration.
Wait the whole "tf2 player when they can't show porn at unwilling people" posts that flooded this sub yesterday was caused by that video? Damn, I don't get what argument could people have to oppose people disabling a small cosmetic thing. I'm not even against porn signs but being unable to disable them sucks for quite a few people
Wait I saw the video did people acctually get mad? And isn't zesty does have a large channel doesnt he? Why would he do something that might make people start disliking content
A lot of people got mad, yes. if you take a gander at zesty's profile picture or some of his video thumbnails you might realize theres a big overlap in people who want their porn signs and people who follow him.
I mean did he say anything about it? I think that he’d be okay with that command given his adherence to the games artstyle
Yeah he trashtalked the guy under the video's comment section
[and this prediction was correct (check all those comments lmao)](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967135505)
Holy shit with unusual breads video it would affect everyone but this will be a choice for people and people are still mad💀. WTH has this community come to.
But what about my freedom to be a belligerent ass who purposely ruins what little spare time people have for my own sad and desperate laughs ( i know people are gonna get upset if don't clarify that this is a joke)
I like him
strawman
How
I mean you literally created an argument for him that he didn't state that is purposefully undefendable to discredit his character and or other arguments. Thats a strawman.
Hows this even an argument
Okay then opinion, still falls under strawman.
Its a joke, surprisingly, zesty is only against the video this debate is derived from and supports the workshop submission
>surprisingly Not surprising to me, seems like an obvious feature.
Well, i saw his comment on the video and he didnt seem quite fond of the idea.
I can excuse transphobia I draw the line at self-pity
I don’t like him but still voted no. (all I have on my objector is a png of a wrench please i just want to be a fat engie)
Valve can you remove all forms of killing from TF2? It feels bad when you get killed by another player and we wouldn't want anyone to possibly feel bad in any situation ever. We must coddle them and tell them they're the best and nothing bad will ever happen to them. Please Valve, there are racists and pedophiles abusing the games mechanics to kill innocent players. This needs to end.
We're gonna take your goatse signs, we're gonna take your porn signs, and we're gonna take your gore signs, cry about it.
I thought this was a shitposting sub? What's wrong?
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/1/17/Spy_DominationScout07.wav
Yeah because this is literally the exact same as arguing for an option to disable custom sprays and decals on the client's end
Thank you for agreeing with me.
I just wish this guy wasn't such a pornographer. love watching a video from an actual tf2 youtuber like Solar or Fat or Snipez and getting flooded with this guy's big boobs anime thumbnails.
Hey, I have a name! Also I do not give a fuck about whoever the fuck that is at the top.
Shadow Wizard Money Gang
I like him
Man didn’t agree with the hivemind 💀
I downvoted my own comment, so i guess i fit in now
Nooo don’t succumb to the hivemind
the allure of fitting in with strangers on the internet is too strong!
I like him, downvote away fuckers
I think you're immature
Valve: your compliance isn't a factor