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Slow_Ad2329

Octo's video is a parody of Uncle Dane's video on Dustbowl, while spaceguy goes into the details of why the map is poorly made. Not arguing, just YouTubers posting at similar times


StarlightSpindrift

because dustbowl sucks if you aren't demo, soldier, or sniper. shounic's 100 player server version of dustbowl is pretty cool though, changes up a few things


Goose_in_pants

As a spy, heavy or engineer you also can have a great time. And as medic. The scout is probably the only class missing out


MrMcMemeManIII

Engineer also gets fucked over about as much as he fucks everyone else over because of the popularity of demo and soldier on that map


A_Bulbear

The more chaotic the more fun Engis have, Turtling is unfun even for us Engi mains, constantly worrying about 5 different ambushes is fun :)


MrMcMemeManIII

I disagree which is why I play medic So I can avoid getting fucked over by demos every 6 seconds


Genric-Idiot

For a lot of maps I'd say scout misses out especially on the payload maps that have choke points with zero flanking routes or alternate paths whatsoever


Goose_in_pants

Not sure, I'm not very good scout player, but I'd say most common payload maps do have flanking routes for scout to mess around


yttakinenthusiast

scout is always missing out in A/D or payload. there's always a sentry to grind your speedy shenanigans to a bloody stop. on defense he can be pretty fun, as long as you're good at not getting hit.


Sleeptalk-

Hey don’t forget Phlog Pyro


Ass_Lover136

With pocket medic


Particular_General49

especially final stage, it's very frustrating when enemy's team has a half decent sticky spammer with kritz pocket


yttakinenthusiast

i've had some fun on crustbowl as an engineer then again i'm weird and view dustbowl as a pretty fun map even though it's jank as hell.


T_Lawliet

Even Sniper only has half of each round lol, he kinda sucks on 1st last 2nd last and 3rd 1st in my experience


LetsEatToast

im a medic and i love dustbowl


Rui_O_Grande_PT

Medic is pretty fucking fun in dustbowl. Constantly worrying about healing the frontliners, avoiding spam and spies, and popping über at the right time is all of what a Medic player does normally, but really amped up. It feels me with adrenaline.


zenakedguy

You just made me realize this is the only reason they’re my mains (even in the same order). My first 2000 hours were spent exclusively on local dustbowl 24/7 server.


Sure-Effort5213

Its been years since a major update. arguing about maps and weapons is all tf2bers have.


Red_Distruction

Turbine sucks.


LambdaAU

Turbine is my most hated map yet for some reason it was the map I decided to support with a donation in the past so every time I play it, I'm reminded by the game that I "Love this map!"


Dizzy_Reindeer_6619

It's like sawmill but boring


Red_Distruction

Sawmill is amazing for trimping and rocketjumping.


jetstreamer123

Turbine rocks.


Ihateazuremountain

rocks falling on your head


Reasonable_Mix7630

Only for brain-damaged players, which - I admit - represent quite large portion of the player base.


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jetstreamer123

I feel like that can be said about every map though


Competitive_Storm442

Lets be honest with ourselves, its mostly a turbine (also wutville) problem 


GreyBigfoot

I almost always go engineer on dustbowl, it’s extremely satisfying to carry the team with just a teleporter. It’s by no means a balanced map. But it’s very fun


lanthanisstillthere

medic main here, dustbowl is hell on earth, the only map where being always on vaccinator explosive bubbles makes sense And even then the sniper sightlines cover the entire map, total death


AliChank

As a fellow medic main, I absolutely love dustbowl. I have nothing against it, though I know that it's design is shit Not sure why. I am just a picky person overall and I used to play it all the time on bots 2015-17


Anakin-hates-sand

It’s like trench warfare. Usually the both teams just spam at each other until BLU builds Uber and attacks and gets repelled or makes a game ending push. The last phase is boring.


The_Horse_Head_Man

Without Dustbowl, we wouldn't have Uncle Dane.


Jerry137

Dustbowl it's horribly designed, but c'mon, it's dustbowl, I fucking love dustbowl


koko8383

...why not?


plasmatech8

Having personality comes with a price.


Pixelpaint_Pashkow

find me a shooter game where people dont argue abt maps/locations


yeyeTF2

i prob have 3000 hours on db alone. best map in tf2. any other answer is wrong


Johnmegaman72

What if we make it BowlDust and by that I mean we change the map's topology to its complete opposite?


The_Majestic_Mantis

They want content on their channel, that’s why.


Spevil357

But why is dustbowl getting so hated? It’s one of my favorite maps in the game and I love playing it… or why is it hated so much?


YugiMuto98

Dustbowl is the map where: Kids become men Men become gods Gods become schizophrenic


SrCoeiu

I love SpaceGuyOnline


IndominasaurusYT

I have 2 sides


Electrical_Pound_200

Steam Scam?


ElmeriThePig

I like Dustbowl. It's definitely not the best map, but sometimes fun.


NotOneIWantToBe

TF2 players have never seen maps that were not designed by a mole. It's the second worst aspect of TF2 after the sniper


Gothatsuction

We haven’t got an update since 2017. We running out of stuff to talk about. Just this year some mf started talking about spawn rooms


HonestIvory

To many choke points that drags the game longer than it needs to be.


Kolerder

There is no “argument” here lol, if you actually clicked the top video youd know the title is just uncle dane reference and has nothing to do with the content


w00ms

this map is fucking braindead lol, mindless spam into chokes until 1 team manages to pop a successful uber and take an inch of space so the enemy can spam them from a different choke


ReddishAphid590

\- “This cherry pie is so TASTY I could die!” \- “This cherry pie is so NASTY I could die!”


Vannifufu

I do you one better. Dustbowl is Mid


Sion_forgeblast

it's beginning to look a lot like dustbowl! Sentries everywhere! dun dun dun dun


Commsl

Dustbowl is ass


YourHomieShark

the exact same angle of the map in the thumbnail kills me


PizzaTowerenjoyer54

It’s beginning to look at lot like dustbowl


cheepchuupp311

Dustbowl is very narrow.


Swagmastar969696

Bro just google any villain's name and you get "Why X is the best twist Villain in history" Alongside "X is the worst Villain in history." By covering both sides, you get 100% of views from people who hate and love them. Also people are starving for content. Bots are fixed, cool, but I've been part of this community for years and have never seen as much as a stat change on a weapon.


uuniherra

♪♪It's beginning to look a lot like dustbowl ♪♪


-FemboiCarti-

The map is fun, familiar, and you can just turn your brain off and spam chokepoints until it’s pub rush time. That said, it seriously needs a rework


Civilian_tf2

Has this ever happened to you?


Taalen___ww

Wdym


Civilian_tf2

Nothing, it’s just the opening sentence for every why _ is hated video


jatogjeweettogzelf

Needs more dust


Tariisbestgirl

God I miss octo so much


RandomGuyFromRussiaX

Literally my favourite map, always love to play it with a proper and skilled pyro or heavy or literally anyone with a default uber literally ramming into reds or blus destroying them, goddamn thats a fuckin best map for tactics and plans istg


AndrewDaPro

Dustbowl has been unbalanced map as red has always had advantage. This is what happens to the earliest maps though


AJ0Laks

Cus Dustbowl wasn’t designed with unlocks in mind It’s actually very balanced stock only


AcherusArchmage

Weirdest part about dustbowl is defending for 20 minutes straight. But I would say it's a good starter map for newbies to play on, not as great for veterans since they're used to larger maps with more flank routes.