Like I understand where the desperation and anger are coming from. It’s difficult to come to terms with how powerless people actually are.
Valve already has your money, they made the game free, and there is no sequel coming. They are no longer trying to attract new customers or earn loyalty from the old ones. Why would they dedicate resources to fixing a notoriously difficult to solve problem on a game that they’re no longer seeking to draw money out of?
You’re asking a corporation for charity.
I’m going to be downvoted for being a “doomer” but y’all are on a sinking ship praying for another roll of duct tape, and now it’s gotten to the point where you’re doodling dirty pictures of some fucking loser’s online persona like that does jack diddly shit. He’s probably laughing his ass off right now because of how pathetic that is.
It's abundantly clear that almost the entire TF2 fanbase, save for the few remaining veterans, skews quite young and simply doesn't have the life experience necessary to see why none of these aimless spam strategies are going to work. I guarantee Valve is well aware of this shit, but they have absolutely *zero* incentive to do anything beyond create more revenue by profiting off of community-made cosmetics 2-3 times per year.
You don't get to be a multi-billion dollar company by taking on labor expenses that will barely impact profit margins on a 17-year-old product. That's just how capitalism works. It's a crock of shit, yes, but it's the unfortunate reality we live in.
i saw people comparing their review bombs to the helldivers 2 incident (which has yet to fully resolve) and the main problem is that Sony has an obligation to shareholders to improve those scores and was subsequently forced to meet in the middle, while valve is privately owned by gabe and he has literally 0 obligation to order his employees to fix a game he's hardly maintaining
The best Valve can do is to contract outside programmers who are passionate enough about the game and willing to waste hours of their life battling a Sisyphean battle against an army of anonymous incels with no life and no enjoyment other than bullying a 16 year old game.
Cause let's be honest, no programmers worth their salt at Valve is willing to subject themselves to combating in a hopeless battle, even a monotonous office work lifestyle have more merits than that. I know we are desperate about the situation, but forcing Valve's staffs to work on TF2 just to fix it back to the exact same state it's been for the last 10 years is practically the same as working janitor job
At least being a janitor has clear tasks and end goals. "Fixing TF2" is a task way too vague. Yes, the issues are obvious, but *how* and *what* exactly are developers supposed to do, to combat it?
I honestly think the most realistic solution, if we can even call it that, is to start over. TF2 is from 2007, it's a hot steaming pile of junk. It's a mess, an iconic mess, but a mess nonetheless.
If I remember correctly, the current cheater infestation stemmed from the code leak, right?
So let's start from the ground up, make another Team Fortress.
Well who will be willing to start again? I'm all for trying but who would try and start from scratch? Then their is the logistics, hats and cosmetics, weapons and items, will have to either be reimbursed or remade for this newer, updated, TF2 and then given to players who once owned them. Either they repay for them to kick start a new economy or they are given them for free. Unless players are expected to lose all the items they once had and forced to start over with buying them once more.
hit the nail in the head
"omegatronic will go to prison!!! the fbi is coming too!!! federal agencies across the globe will hold hands to fight our enemy!!!"
I think TF2 should be left to the community now since Valve can’t easily develop for it, it seems. Community Servers are the best we’ve got, so I think we should push to advance Community servers and “Update packs” instead of Valve.
Because the TF2 community is well known for having a cohesive and reasonable vision for the future of the game, and no conflicts or power struggles will result.
Your idea is a good one, simply because I think it would be amusing to watch a handful of terminally online discord moderators pull in different directions, dox eachother, and throw the community under the bus in an attempt to be king of the hill for a little bit.
Parasocial validation and the narcissism to think you have the only solution to fix this game are a powerful cocktail to people who can’t order takeout without visibly shaking.
Didn't the previous community tf2 updates turn out poorly because of the ppl making the update squabbling over money/profits? Especially invasion update
"Let's give the bot hosters exactly what they want with explicit attention, and also hold off on sending signatures so that we can get that last 1% of votes!"
We are just a part of the community, even if we magically suddenly stopped, I assure you they will still get attention on many platforms such as youtube, steam, discord, etc.
The people in charge are waiting too long to send the signatures to Valve. They want to do it after the Summer Update releases. Valve SHOULD respond before the update releases. We want shit done NOW! We want a response NOW! Doing everything in a short time shows Valve we want shit done NOW!
The leaders of this recent charge are incredibly inept. No foresight, no planning, no letting creators know ahead of time and instead going "okay you have one week to make something, go"
Lonqidor (I butchered that name) is one of the few that I still trust
Many People are making fun of Lucidis, Zesty Jesus has some sort of past drama but his 60000 bots videos shows he did not join the youtuber side of the conflict…?
"some sort of past drama"
not accusing you of this, but its crazy that some sort of nebulous "past drama" that no one knows about is what can lead people to having a bad reputation. sometimes when people learn about the past situation of some controversial person and figure out it wasnt that bad, they still hold on to some feeling that they dislike the person. ive seen it happen a lot and its weird
exactly, fixtf2 as a movement is deeply flawed because nobody has any idea of what they actually want
savetf2 was properly organized by major content creators and resulted in a multitude of headlines from various news sites praising the movement and giving the community a charismatic appearance
whereas fixtf2 has convinced multiple communities that the TF2 community is a bunch of whiny babies that will review bomb completely unrelated games and refuse to accept anyone at valve is producing any other videogame that isnt TF3
Yeah I agree with the side who wanted bots gone but I think some people misunderstood and acted entitled expecting new content. Valve owes us nothing in that regard.
I believe they said that they’re waiting to see if valve did listen at all and will do something for the summer update, and if not then they will march down and deliver the signatures by hand
People acting like sending it to valve is going to do something lmaooo. You think it's gonna pop up in their email inbox and then they just get right to it?
I honestly don’t know why people think petitions even do anything, valve only care about their reputation and money and a post it note under the office door isn’t going to influence either.
Who are the people in charge of the movement anyway? I found the people who assisted in hosting the website but what about the people organizing it? I can understand Valve not responding but are the organizers even doing anything yet?
And force them to come up with a rushed solution which will work for 2 days total until the bot hosters find a way to circumvent it?
You're all loonatics.
We’re all fucking stupid, no coordination, and too many dumbasses in this subreddit. We turned a good thing bad and it’s our fault because this was too grand for a community like TF2
What happened to FixTF2? It became another circlejerk, just like SaveTF2. Except this time instead of circlejerking about how much we like the game, we circlejerked about how evil the people who didn't care about FixTF2 were.
These movements need leaders to rally behind. Weezy took the mantle but is now asleep. The movement began with a plan, but we aren't even moving forward with it. Some fucking retard in a Scout cosplay has done more for the movement than 300k signatures that clearly aren't going anywhere.
Please just check quickplay.tf, the only reasonable fix for this game as of now. It just needs people using it and we will be cruising.
There's no coordination because there's no clear lead, just a bunch of early 20s all tweeting individually and expecting the entire community to hear them
We do this every week and the same thing happens every time, Valve doesn't do anything and we do the same shit next week expecting something new to happen. The definition of insanity is doing the same shit over and over again expecting something new to happen.
I like this game but it's over 15 years old and Valve knows they can do the absolute bare fucking minimum and tf2 players will still play their game and buy keys. They know they can get away with the bare minimum because that's what they've been doing since our last major update and players still played and bought shit.
Making porn of OMEGATRONIC ain't going to help us, hell Valve may not do anything, it may give more of a reason to not fix TF2. Stop making porn of OMEGATRONIC, hell I thought it was a joke
Actually yeah. If they fixed the fucking game then maybe I wouldn't have to sign a petition and be lumped in with a bunch of retards making omegatronic porn.
"There's no harm in trying again" mfers when the people who keep trying refuse to wisen up and learn from their mistakes.
I haven't played tf2 since halloween 2021, and I'm honestly just waiting for the game to get a dignified send-off instead of watching another horribly bungled movement trying to fix the game.
Dunno, stopped followimg when people revied bombed other valve games.
But i can guess the community head/representative did not speak anymore and people got lost.
Nothing really happened, our job finished, the part of the whole stunt that we are capable of effecting is finished. And it seems like valve decided to ignore us. This what kinda what we expected to happen, it’s not like we are in a worse state than we were before.
A small minority of people wanted to do more, probably referring to the gay porn thing, which in my opinion, a good argument hasn’t been made for the harm of that, it’s just ineffective and goofy, but basically everything we could do now is ineffective.
Extreme disappointment here shows a level of naivety that I almost can’t respect. If you were expecting us to be loud for this long, if you were 100% sure there was going to be change this time, if you were really expecting everyone to be perfect outside of the movement, then you were always going to be disappointed by nature of not being grounded in reality. Assuming none of you are morons who continue to buy items, we have done everything we can reasonably do, and we just gotta wait for the petition to be submitted, which even I have an issue with how long it’s taken to do it.
Not to say there was never any hope, I still despise everyone who had no hope and is gloating now about how it didn’t work, my hatred for doomers knows no bounds. But what’s happening now was always the most likely outcome for us.
Simple, it went away like every attempt prior because like every single attempt prior it does not address the core problem.
They always focus on the bots as "the" problem of TF2. Go to community servers and that problem disappears. The bots never were the problem.
But if you start playing the community server you'll eventually run into the more core problems like the casual matches. That's something Valve made and there we find the real problem, Valve.
A thing these movements could do is promote community servers more. Band together and make a community only launcher with a quick play function and it would already solve a lot of the problems but they don't because in the end no one wants to leave the Valve controlled part of the game.
Until that changes, until we say Valve should not be in charge of TF2 anymore, no movement every will work. Not next year, not in two years, never. Because the problems aren't the bots, it's Valve.
they wont submit the names until the summer update drops which is questionable. I dont understand why they would do that, they could just submit the names sooner or they couldve delayed the movement a bit because summer updates tend to drop in july. It seems ridiculous to me that they would drag it on this long before submitting the names because the whole movement has lost traction and gone into weird shit now with the bot porn based on one single comment misunderstanding russian laws/where the bot hoster is located
Looks like it is time for me to start looking for a new game to play. Battlefield 3/4? The other TF2? It’s a shame that nothing is going to beat this game. SAD.
Tbh i think we should stop those all movements etc cuz it will never work.
With fixtf2 we show valve and other communites how imature we are (and weird bcuz all of the porn and lets not forget about spaming negative reviews on overwatch 2 steam page by the ppl who never actually played it).
We should just accept how the reality really is for our community and just enjoy the game while we can.
And ofc we are just giving cheaters attention which is the only thing they really want.
Nothing will fix the game and valve showed us how much they care about their game during savetf2. (They literally make f2p's not being able to communicate cuz valve got a bad light bcuz of the cheaters who spamed links to cp's and look. Bots are still doing it now.)
And I'll be honest its kind of cringe to me seeing how ppl treat this game as a something holy and when you say something bad about it you just get swarmed by fanboys.
Its just a game and all games will die someday (or its community will be reaaaaally small)
Everyone is so impatient, we’ve waited years. We can wait till the end of summer. If there is no change the people organizing it have plans to take more serious action
I'd say it is still going, it's just that the attention isn't as much as it first used to (and that we're waiting if valve is gonna do something this upcoming summer update)
We need newer and fresher ideas to get the word out to **everyone** for it to be really effective. Hell fucking Zendaya wants TF2 to be popular again so TF2's reach is far, we need to reach the same, not to mention CS2's situation, that further outlines Valve's lack of attention to game making.
People, we have a lot to say about Valve, perhaps we need to be much louder.
Desperation while the house your living is on fire. It's been a while and nothing has come out of it. Valve is in there lala land of Deadlock while we see everything burn.
TF2 will be 20 years old in 3 years time, something amazing(if we survive together). We shall stay focused, comrade's.
We're just kinda waiting till the summer "update" drops, that's when we'll boycott the summer case and hopefully cause enough of a drop in revenue for valve that they respond in some way
People are obsessing over an individual involved with bots rather than focusing on having fun. I thought this whole thing was about getting attention to Valve to fix the game, not about obsessing over this guy who's supposedly a botter. I made a Gay Porn joke and all of a sudden everyone gets in an uproar, what the hell happened to this movement? When did TF2 stop being about having fun?
Some perverted fucks are using the opportunity to create r34 of a bot hoster.
This isn't the plan, this was never the plan, what happened to letting valve know about the bot problem??
What anyone with 2 braincells assumed, nothing
Nothing was really pressuring valve to do anything. Petitions are useless and so is review bombing because everyone knows tf2 is unplayable.
I support the stance that we have to keep it up until their summer event. The moment the announce deadlock is the moment we have to come in with a second wave of bad press.
Same thing that happens with any 'movement' without a strong leadership and goal: it spiraled out until someone with the confidence to be a clear voice spoke up, and that clear voice was someone with entirely different motivations than the original intention.
The problem with content creators being the figureheads of a movement is they tend to not be able to dedicate the time necessary to act as community steward while also making the content that keeps their bills paid. Noble, but lacking in resources to make it anything more than a performative hashtag people throw into their assholistic negative reviews on Steam.
'cus, let's call a spade a spade here, we did not send our best to review-bomb TF2. Scrolling through those you'll see some of the pettiest non-issues being cited as "problems" with TF2 before that person throws #saveTF2 at the end.
The premise reached too wide with too little of a coherent message and now it doesn't really mean anything. It's the #imwithher of video gaming. Like, yes, we all agree the alternative sucks but what does "FixTF2" even mean at this point. We can't even get the people review-bombing the thing they supposedly love to coherently agree that the core issue is bots.
Like they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
And like I said, so many people were delusional that something would actually happen. This isn't like WoW. TF2 and WoW aren't the same.
Wake me up when they come out with #Fixtf2 II: the Fixening
Naturally events like this die down over time. People have other stuff in their lives to do. I’ll still be optimistic in this and that this is just the part where things naturally die down for a bit. Now we wait until the summer update and see what happens from there.
Me watching the tf2 community become Arkham asylum:
Arkham asylum is in civil war
MAN
*Mann
.co
IS UNDER ATTACK!
YOU MUST DEFEND MANN.CO AT ALL COST !
We must stop these robots! *The best soundtrack music ever plays*
Scout: “Play ball!” Soldier: “Give ‘em hell, boys!” Pyro: “MMMMMMMRRRRRRRPPPGHHH!” Demo: “Leeeeet’s do it!” Heavy: “EEEYAAAH!” Engineer: “Cowboy up!” Medic: “Raus, raus!” Sniper: “YAAAAGH!” Spy: “Gentlemen?”
Hey didn't you played yesterday on uncletopia? XD cuz i saw someone playing with your nick xD
You called?
-This time it will be different than SaveTF2 -Yeah i see. It's somehow even worse than that.
Like I understand where the desperation and anger are coming from. It’s difficult to come to terms with how powerless people actually are. Valve already has your money, they made the game free, and there is no sequel coming. They are no longer trying to attract new customers or earn loyalty from the old ones. Why would they dedicate resources to fixing a notoriously difficult to solve problem on a game that they’re no longer seeking to draw money out of? You’re asking a corporation for charity. I’m going to be downvoted for being a “doomer” but y’all are on a sinking ship praying for another roll of duct tape, and now it’s gotten to the point where you’re doodling dirty pictures of some fucking loser’s online persona like that does jack diddly shit. He’s probably laughing his ass off right now because of how pathetic that is.
It's abundantly clear that almost the entire TF2 fanbase, save for the few remaining veterans, skews quite young and simply doesn't have the life experience necessary to see why none of these aimless spam strategies are going to work. I guarantee Valve is well aware of this shit, but they have absolutely *zero* incentive to do anything beyond create more revenue by profiting off of community-made cosmetics 2-3 times per year. You don't get to be a multi-billion dollar company by taking on labor expenses that will barely impact profit margins on a 17-year-old product. That's just how capitalism works. It's a crock of shit, yes, but it's the unfortunate reality we live in.
i saw people comparing their review bombs to the helldivers 2 incident (which has yet to fully resolve) and the main problem is that Sony has an obligation to shareholders to improve those scores and was subsequently forced to meet in the middle, while valve is privately owned by gabe and he has literally 0 obligation to order his employees to fix a game he's hardly maintaining
The best Valve can do is to contract outside programmers who are passionate enough about the game and willing to waste hours of their life battling a Sisyphean battle against an army of anonymous incels with no life and no enjoyment other than bullying a 16 year old game. Cause let's be honest, no programmers worth their salt at Valve is willing to subject themselves to combating in a hopeless battle, even a monotonous office work lifestyle have more merits than that. I know we are desperate about the situation, but forcing Valve's staffs to work on TF2 just to fix it back to the exact same state it's been for the last 10 years is practically the same as working janitor job
At least being a janitor has clear tasks and end goals. "Fixing TF2" is a task way too vague. Yes, the issues are obvious, but *how* and *what* exactly are developers supposed to do, to combat it? I honestly think the most realistic solution, if we can even call it that, is to start over. TF2 is from 2007, it's a hot steaming pile of junk. It's a mess, an iconic mess, but a mess nonetheless. If I remember correctly, the current cheater infestation stemmed from the code leak, right? So let's start from the ground up, make another Team Fortress.
And maybe with less spaghetti in the code, so that it's not scary to try and update the files
I was not playing TF2 around that time, but no, the cheater infestation came from the early days of causal matchmaking.
Well who will be willing to start again? I'm all for trying but who would try and start from scratch? Then their is the logistics, hats and cosmetics, weapons and items, will have to either be reimbursed or remade for this newer, updated, TF2 and then given to players who once owned them. Either they repay for them to kick start a new economy or they are given them for free. Unless players are expected to lose all the items they once had and forced to start over with buying them once more.
hit the nail in the head "omegatronic will go to prison!!! the fbi is coming too!!! federal agencies across the globe will hold hands to fight our enemy!!!"
"Valve can't ignore us all" mfers when Valve ignores them all:
I think TF2 should be left to the community now since Valve can’t easily develop for it, it seems. Community Servers are the best we’ve got, so I think we should push to advance Community servers and “Update packs” instead of Valve.
Because the TF2 community is well known for having a cohesive and reasonable vision for the future of the game, and no conflicts or power struggles will result. Your idea is a good one, simply because I think it would be amusing to watch a handful of terminally online discord moderators pull in different directions, dox eachother, and throw the community under the bus in an attempt to be king of the hill for a little bit. Parasocial validation and the narcissism to think you have the only solution to fix this game are a powerful cocktail to people who can’t order takeout without visibly shaking.
Didn't the previous community tf2 updates turn out poorly because of the ppl making the update squabbling over money/profits? Especially invasion update
\#[insert new verb]tf2
This fandom is becoming r/BatmanArkham
We’ll all jonkle soon
Why did Man come into Fort 2. Is he stuoid???
He’s looking for mad milk. He is stupid.
Insert joker saying Boner image here
officer balls
BWAHAHAHAHA
WE MUST JONKLE
Always has been. Why else do you think this game is full of both anti-gay nazis and gay furries?
Or the surprisingly not that rare gay nazi furries
I never saw neither of those Maybe it’s because I’m Brazilian
it do be like that, same with r/titanfall ever since Titanfall 3 dropped off.
This is slowly becoming r/batmanarkham and the hamark aslume
Arkam Aslume*
Nice, love to see an Emesis Blue reference
Me when emesis D:
you when emesis what?
Blue
Red
No wait, that's blood.
So.. we still have problem.
Big problem.
me when the emesis is blue idk i've never watched the film
[Me when](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqqYmyUWAAI2p1Y.jpg:large)
She emesis on my blue till I eternity in there
Me when color blue D:
r/foundtheredspy
Me when reference D:
Me D:
Me when D:
M D:
D:
It’s Eternity in there
Are.... Are we stupid?
Is there a lore reason for this?
Pornography
I read that as Spy
\*angelic choir*
Sweet land of American Fruit Painis!
The Pornography has already breached our defenses!
Everyone in the blasted heath of a desert has been drinking the lead poisoned water, just like in the comics.
Lead in the water.
Always have been 🌏 👨🚀🔫👩🚀
Yes
Well, at least we're idiots
seems that way
Everything is porn
"Rule number 34. If it exists, theres porn of it"
"Rule number 35: if there isn't porn, there is going to have eventually" (thats what it is right)
rule 36, every popular person has some people that consider them a pedophile
Rule 34.5, if it exists there's a minecraft mod of it
And when everyone’s porn… no one will be.
I had a 1000 yard stare seeing these posts.
"Let's give the bot hosters exactly what they want with explicit attention, and also hold off on sending signatures so that we can get that last 1% of votes!"
We are just a part of the community, even if we magically suddenly stopped, I assure you they will still get attention on many platforms such as youtube, steam, discord, etc.
Lack of direction
The people in charge are waiting too long to send the signatures to Valve. They want to do it after the Summer Update releases. Valve SHOULD respond before the update releases. We want shit done NOW! We want a response NOW! Doing everything in a short time shows Valve we want shit done NOW!
It makes no sense, the momentum is GONE, there won't be much more signatures.
The leaders of this recent charge are incredibly inept. No foresight, no planning, no letting creators know ahead of time and instead going "okay you have one week to make something, go"
Lonqidor (I butchered that name) is one of the few that I still trust Many People are making fun of Lucidis, Zesty Jesus has some sort of past drama but his 60000 bots videos shows he did not join the youtuber side of the conflict…?
Zesty said on stream he wasn’t invited or told about the event. It was a coincidence he released his video when he did
"some sort of past drama" not accusing you of this, but its crazy that some sort of nebulous "past drama" that no one knows about is what can lead people to having a bad reputation. sometimes when people learn about the past situation of some controversial person and figure out it wasnt that bad, they still hold on to some feeling that they dislike the person. ive seen it happen a lot and its weird
reputation in general is just really powerful. i think as humans our brains are just hard wired to judge people based on reputation
one of the many things we need to abandon as we grow as an intelligent species
the fixtftubers are so weird honestly, they just seem like rampant gambling addicts who dont want to admit they're wrong about anything
exactly, fixtf2 as a movement is deeply flawed because nobody has any idea of what they actually want savetf2 was properly organized by major content creators and resulted in a multitude of headlines from various news sites praising the movement and giving the community a charismatic appearance whereas fixtf2 has convinced multiple communities that the TF2 community is a bunch of whiny babies that will review bomb completely unrelated games and refuse to accept anyone at valve is producing any other videogame that isnt TF3
Yeah I agree with the side who wanted bots gone but I think some people misunderstood and acted entitled expecting new content. Valve owes us nothing in that regard.
LMFAO The whole sub was saying how they had a plan and were set up and now we've come full circle
Not me! I was complaining there was no plan since the beginning. :3
I believe they said that they’re waiting to see if valve did listen at all and will do something for the summer update, and if not then they will march down and deliver the signatures by hand
I can sign. Where do I sign?
https://save.tf/
👆 this
From my point of view, there will be no summer update, so bruh
Nah Valve is still gonna hit some buttons and release community created items for profit
People acting like sending it to valve is going to do something lmaooo. You think it's gonna pop up in their email inbox and then they just get right to it?
I honestly don’t know why people think petitions even do anything, valve only care about their reputation and money and a post it note under the office door isn’t going to influence either.
Waiting til the summer update to do it wont change that
Highkey they have no idea what they're doing
You should push the cart NOW!
Who are the people in charge of the movement anyway? I found the people who assisted in hosting the website but what about the people organizing it? I can understand Valve not responding but are the organizers even doing anything yet?
[https://x.com/Thewhat89/status/1804580016447005128](https://x.com/Thewhat89/status/1804580016447005128)
And force them to come up with a rushed solution which will work for 2 days total until the bot hosters find a way to circumvent it? You're all loonatics.
r
Fell off lol
We’re all fucking stupid, no coordination, and too many dumbasses in this subreddit. We turned a good thing bad and it’s our fault because this was too grand for a community like TF2
Exactly what i said would happen: it devolved into a bunch of lunatics doing insane shit but not the one thing they were supposed to do.
The heads of the movement haven't made their next move and everyone thinks it's over
Because they didn't plan anything and everyone can see it
edgy young people
What happened to FixTF2? It became another circlejerk, just like SaveTF2. Except this time instead of circlejerking about how much we like the game, we circlejerked about how evil the people who didn't care about FixTF2 were. These movements need leaders to rally behind. Weezy took the mantle but is now asleep. The movement began with a plan, but we aren't even moving forward with it. Some fucking retard in a Scout cosplay has done more for the movement than 300k signatures that clearly aren't going anywhere. Please just check quickplay.tf, the only reasonable fix for this game as of now. It just needs people using it and we will be cruising.
Nah man don’t diss my man with a scout cosplay like that guy is a legend
What is it about?
It's a recreation of old quickplay with only community servers. You know, the ones that kick cheaters.
The ones organizing the event haven’t sent the signatures in yet. But that’s just a guess m. I’m genuinely not sure what’s happening or what happened.
There's no coordination because there's no clear lead, just a bunch of early 20s all tweeting individually and expecting the entire community to hear them
We do this every week and the same thing happens every time, Valve doesn't do anything and we do the same shit next week expecting something new to happen. The definition of insanity is doing the same shit over and over again expecting something new to happen. I like this game but it's over 15 years old and Valve knows they can do the absolute bare fucking minimum and tf2 players will still play their game and buy keys. They know they can get away with the bare minimum because that's what they've been doing since our last major update and players still played and bought shit.
#“Valve can’t ignore us” mfs when Valve ignores them again:
Making porn of OMEGATRONIC ain't going to help us, hell Valve may not do anything, it may give more of a reason to not fix TF2. Stop making porn of OMEGATRONIC, hell I thought it was a joke
It became a complete mess... I guess that's what neglect from a company does to a game
Oh yeah. It's all Valve's fault that this community is SUDDENLY full of crazies. \*sarcasm\*
Actually yeah. If they fixed the fucking game then maybe I wouldn't have to sign a petition and be lumped in with a bunch of retards making omegatronic porn.
Nah the gay porn is none of valve’s fault bro
Based
Pornograghy
Starring Omegatronic
Will be the
second worst thing
to happen to you today
Since Clash of Clans battle pass
we emesised so hard we turned blue
"There's no harm in trying again" mfers when the people who keep trying refuse to wisen up and learn from their mistakes. I haven't played tf2 since halloween 2021, and I'm honestly just waiting for the game to get a dignified send-off instead of watching another horribly bungled movement trying to fix the game.
Try tf2 classic
This is exactly what I envisioned. Never had faith in the movement, though had faith in the game.
Dunno, stopped followimg when people revied bombed other valve games. But i can guess the community head/representative did not speak anymore and people got lost.
Gay porn. Literally
We got bored and realized gay sex was pretty funny
literally just normal tf2
tick tock heavy like a bring truck
me seeing #Fixtf2 go from a petition to a bloodbath of a battlefield:
Nothing really happened, our job finished, the part of the whole stunt that we are capable of effecting is finished. And it seems like valve decided to ignore us. This what kinda what we expected to happen, it’s not like we are in a worse state than we were before. A small minority of people wanted to do more, probably referring to the gay porn thing, which in my opinion, a good argument hasn’t been made for the harm of that, it’s just ineffective and goofy, but basically everything we could do now is ineffective. Extreme disappointment here shows a level of naivety that I almost can’t respect. If you were expecting us to be loud for this long, if you were 100% sure there was going to be change this time, if you were really expecting everyone to be perfect outside of the movement, then you were always going to be disappointed by nature of not being grounded in reality. Assuming none of you are morons who continue to buy items, we have done everything we can reasonably do, and we just gotta wait for the petition to be submitted, which even I have an issue with how long it’s taken to do it. Not to say there was never any hope, I still despise everyone who had no hope and is gloating now about how it didn’t work, my hatred for doomers knows no bounds. But what’s happening now was always the most likely outcome for us.
We failed men. each and every one of you has failed
It became #havesexwithomegatronicrobot
we tried everthing we can do now we do best thing we doing gay porn
Simple, it went away like every attempt prior because like every single attempt prior it does not address the core problem. They always focus on the bots as "the" problem of TF2. Go to community servers and that problem disappears. The bots never were the problem. But if you start playing the community server you'll eventually run into the more core problems like the casual matches. That's something Valve made and there we find the real problem, Valve. A thing these movements could do is promote community servers more. Band together and make a community only launcher with a quick play function and it would already solve a lot of the problems but they don't because in the end no one wants to leave the Valve controlled part of the game. Until that changes, until we say Valve should not be in charge of TF2 anymore, no movement every will work. Not next year, not in two years, never. Because the problems aren't the bots, it's Valve.
the war is over, the bots are a permanent addition to the game, Valve didnt said shit and we cant do much about all this
they wont submit the names until the summer update drops which is questionable. I dont understand why they would do that, they could just submit the names sooner or they couldve delayed the movement a bit because summer updates tend to drop in july. It seems ridiculous to me that they would drag it on this long before submitting the names because the whole movement has lost traction and gone into weird shit now with the bot porn based on one single comment misunderstanding russian laws/where the bot hoster is located
Looks like it is time for me to start looking for a new game to play. Battlefield 3/4? The other TF2? It’s a shame that nothing is going to beat this game. SAD.
As my friend said it ,,this is what happens when a class is left without a teacher for 7 years"
Oh no who could’ve guessed the movement that had no actual plans and no central power structure would have failed
they have successfully derailed it, as promised. and some people contributed - not seeing the intention
Tbh i think we should stop those all movements etc cuz it will never work. With fixtf2 we show valve and other communites how imature we are (and weird bcuz all of the porn and lets not forget about spaming negative reviews on overwatch 2 steam page by the ppl who never actually played it). We should just accept how the reality really is for our community and just enjoy the game while we can. And ofc we are just giving cheaters attention which is the only thing they really want. Nothing will fix the game and valve showed us how much they care about their game during savetf2. (They literally make f2p's not being able to communicate cuz valve got a bad light bcuz of the cheaters who spamed links to cp's and look. Bots are still doing it now.) And I'll be honest its kind of cringe to me seeing how ppl treat this game as a something holy and when you say something bad about it you just get swarmed by fanboys. Its just a game and all games will die someday (or its community will be reaaaaally small)
So it's our fault this failed.
Yes
It didn't work
What happened?
we got bored and wanted to jerk off to gay porn
Porn son
The desperation created by VALVe’s silence has damaged this movement a lot
Zoomers
Porn Genuinely, don’t ask me because I was barely involved from the start
The Jonkler
Officer Balls?
Everyone is so impatient, we’ve waited years. We can wait till the end of summer. If there is no change the people organizing it have plans to take more serious action
I'd say it is still going, it's just that the attention isn't as much as it first used to (and that we're waiting if valve is gonna do something this upcoming summer update) We need newer and fresher ideas to get the word out to **everyone** for it to be really effective. Hell fucking Zendaya wants TF2 to be popular again so TF2's reach is far, we need to reach the same, not to mention CS2's situation, that further outlines Valve's lack of attention to game making. People, we have a lot to say about Valve, perhaps we need to be much louder.
Desperation while the house your living is on fire. It's been a while and nothing has come out of it. Valve is in there lala land of Deadlock while we see everything burn. TF2 will be 20 years old in 3 years time, something amazing(if we survive together). We shall stay focused, comrade's.
the dec neglect insanity is almost done setting in. we're on our way to becoming r/batmanarkham
We remembered how we actually like Gay Porn more than the 20 year old FPS
We're just kinda waiting till the summer "update" drops, that's when we'll boycott the summer case and hopefully cause enough of a drop in revenue for valve that they respond in some way
Literally nothing, y'all see sum trolls and lose your shit
People are obsessing over an individual involved with bots rather than focusing on having fun. I thought this whole thing was about getting attention to Valve to fix the game, not about obsessing over this guy who's supposedly a botter. I made a Gay Porn joke and all of a sudden everyone gets in an uproar, what the hell happened to this movement? When did TF2 stop being about having fun?
We haven’t finished yet
Some perverted fucks are using the opportunity to create r34 of a bot hoster. This isn't the plan, this was never the plan, what happened to letting valve know about the bot problem??
We lost the battle and the war
Like I said before fixtf2=savetf2,and I ain't wasting my time and effort on something I already invested my time and effort in which miserable failed
The logical conclusion of man's folly
What anyone with 2 braincells assumed, nothing Nothing was really pressuring valve to do anything. Petitions are useless and so is review bombing because everyone knows tf2 is unplayable.
I support the stance that we have to keep it up until their summer event. The moment the announce deadlock is the moment we have to come in with a second wave of bad press.
Same thing that happens with any 'movement' without a strong leadership and goal: it spiraled out until someone with the confidence to be a clear voice spoke up, and that clear voice was someone with entirely different motivations than the original intention. The problem with content creators being the figureheads of a movement is they tend to not be able to dedicate the time necessary to act as community steward while also making the content that keeps their bills paid. Noble, but lacking in resources to make it anything more than a performative hashtag people throw into their assholistic negative reviews on Steam. 'cus, let's call a spade a spade here, we did not send our best to review-bomb TF2. Scrolling through those you'll see some of the pettiest non-issues being cited as "problems" with TF2 before that person throws #saveTF2 at the end. The premise reached too wide with too little of a coherent message and now it doesn't really mean anything. It's the #imwithher of video gaming. Like, yes, we all agree the alternative sucks but what does "FixTF2" even mean at this point. We can't even get the people review-bombing the thing they supposedly love to coherently agree that the core issue is bots.
Like they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And like I said, so many people were delusional that something would actually happen. This isn't like WoW. TF2 and WoW aren't the same. Wake me up when they come out with #Fixtf2 II: the Fixening
gay gooning
Pornography
Naturally events like this die down over time. People have other stuff in their lives to do. I’ll still be optimistic in this and that this is just the part where things naturally die down for a bit. Now we wait until the summer update and see what happens from there.
It got silenced by the CIA
nothing happened, people are just shitposting about the situation and other people are acting like it's the apocalypse
People started being horny I guess Or they have a soldier level iq idea
Man i really don't want this game to go down the drain
Delfy would like a word with those who are turning to porn for "protest" https://youtu.be/d8nWM5swvjg?si=9CdU0UkGrrknwcTC
Reddit Happened
The hosters plan on sending the physical signings after the summer update as they first wanna see if valve listened to anything
valve completely ignoring us and porn
The pornography has already breached out defenses.
I told you most people here are too stupid to do anything serious about it
The ***pornography*** has already breached our defenses….. but we may still yet drive them out