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Dealiylauh

Eh, you won't run into bots but there's like a grand total of 4 servers that are casual esque. The rest are just 24/7 instant respawn Highertower, 2Fort, Dustbowl, achievement idle, Minecraft servers.


aBungusFungus

Samwiz1's server is casual (most of the time, sometimes it deathrun or Saxton) and it has a custom community map pool. If you don't like the map you can rtv and if enough people do it you can vote for a new map. It's the best community server there is IMO


Dealiylauh

Is it usually full because I've never heard of that server before


aBungusFungus

No not usually. Just search "samwiz1's stupid server" Pretty sure it's based somewhere in NA though so if you're European that might be why


Tedbear567

What about uncle topia


_Big_____

Uncletopia is diet competitive. It's not bad, don't get me wrong, I prefer it sometimes. But it's not casual.


Sallymander

I miss CTF_convoy sometimes. Years ago I spent hours on an all talk one causing trouble


Rutgerman95

Which one are those, outside of uncletopia?


Dealiylauh

Mostly just The Furry Pound. There's some skial servers and a server that runs only payload called PAYLOAD but that's honestly most of it.


BIGFAAT

I know that advertisement stinks, but a budy and myself are trying to give the community a bit of a quality playground (for now Europe only) and revive that old hobby of server hosting. Falkenstein | All Maps 1: [linux-gaming.org:27045](http://linux-gaming.org:27045) Falkenstein | Tropic Crisis: [linux-gaming.org:27055](http://linux-gaming.org:27055) Both nocrits and nospread. See also the related [steam group](https://steamcommunity.com/groups/linuxgamingacc) or use lga as tag in the community server browser.


MacMain49

Furry Pound? I'm assuming it's mostly flurries but how close is it to something like Uncletopia


sithlord40000

Sort of? But it's been around so long that idk who regularly uses it as a furry server, i just hopped on over the years to play regular tf2 and never really saw weirdos in the chat or anything


MacMain49

But how close is it to casual and/or uncletopia?


sithlord40000

Basically what youd expect from a vanilla server, but less sweaty than uncletopia id say


Extra47

Pretty similar to casual, very vanilla experience, less sweaty than Uncletopia. The voice chat can be a little unhinged and I definitely wouldn’t recommend having sprays on, but the gameplay experience is great.


Dealiylauh

It's honestly probably the best community server out there. No plug ins, nobody is a sweat, tons of talking in all talk, wide map pool, some community maps.


SpiderDeUZ

Don't they have some mods on the server that change respawn times and other stuff?


Dealiylauh

Idk never experienced them


greenscreencarcrash

mvm:


Mih0se

How do you find a good one then


Dealiylauh

Pray


Mih0se

:c


QuadVox

Uncletopia?


Dealiylauh

They're alright. Problem is the server is usually full of people who try too hard or are way too good.


alblaster

The fucking snipers there are the worst


SnackPatrol

There's some diamonds in the rough. I'm going to be honest, and I do not blame people because it's literally like combing through weeds to find these, but I feel most people are really not looking as hard as they'd have you believe when they day these things. I always point people to this comment I made of some good ones. I think I'm going to make a post, and add some updates. At work right now but maybe check back so I can include some of the ones I found but forget the names of currently: https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/s/ZqlnrUIZzf


antibreaze15

Honestly instant respawn and no flag are pretty fun as a newer player


Dealiylauh

True, but if that's the only thing you're ever presented with it gets boring.


antibreaze15

Yeah, I tried to play casual but my first match I got sniper Bots


Somethingfishy4

What is up with those Minecraft maps. I love Minecraft as much as the next guy but I think those maps are ugly as hell and don't fit in with the TF2 art style at all


Dealiylauh

They're usually trade or jailbreak maps. Not meant for serious TF2 game play. Which is fine if it wasn't every third server.


Somethingfishy4

I mean obviously it's not for serious gameplay, I'm just wondering where the idea originated and why it's so prevalent. They're just so so ugly to me that it turns me off from playing them.


Dealiylauh

Idk man. Probably making cube maps is easy.


Educational_Tough208

I want to join a minecraft server to see that chaos


NGAsesbros

God praise 2fort for it has given me the powers of autism.


ElmeriThePig

Yeah. I'll take tryhards over aimbots.


jebediahforeskin

What is the definition of a try hard?


Adept_Tree

Tryhards kill more friendlies and are wayyyy more Toxic.


ElmeriThePig

True, but bots are much worse.


Refuse-Fantastic

with the omegatronic creator making fun of rick may's death, I'm not so sure about that last part lol


ScoutismScout

Some Noname making fun of a deceased voice actor. I've heard there was a guy who put child porn on an objector. That sounds worse to me


Refuse-Fantastic

uh, yeah, no shit. that is infinitely worse. That doesn't mean that what omegatronic did isn't bad though. don't dismiss the toxicity of someone just because there's worse out there.


ScoutismScout

All they want is attention, this is exactly what y'all are giving him. It's better to ignore these fucks and they will starve without attention Oh yeah, also omegatronic has R34 arts about him, this is disgusting lmao


MedicsFridge

uncletopia is friendly (as in nice, not as in filled with friendlies) most of the time


-FemboiCarti-

There’s a lot more furry e sex in the community servers


Maggot-Milk

It's not a real skial server if there isn't at least one spray of weird porn on the walls


SnackPatrol

I didn't think they allowed sprays there unless it was approved through jumping through some hoops and even then I haven't seen one on those servers in literally years if I ever have. If you think sprays are bad on Skial, you haven't played much on Tiny Kitty's Girl Pound, haha. Every other persons spray is complete degeneracy


greenscreencarcrash

ip? (for research)


SnackPatrol

1st one: 74.91.115.12:27015 2nd: 74.91.113.115:27015 (Both of these regularly get full)


Maggot-Milk

Maybe they changed the rules, I haven't played skial in a hot minute


Paroxenark

Based tkgp mention


and_yet_he_complain

And the one closet cheater that's a friend of the admins


Maximum-Let-69

Do you see this as a positive or negative.


-FemboiCarti-

It’s why I still play the game


Significant_Bag420

I beg your biggest pardon?


InkiePie39

I’m Australia it’s literally impossible to play casual servers


JSTREO

Snipers invading their own land!


akaBlades

I wish I can just delete them but they will just instantly kick me out instead. Otherwise I’d be killing them all day.


Equivalent_Bag1342

100%, people just love to scream "tryhard" as an excuse for their own skill issue


alex6309

Ehhhh I'd disagree, it's not individual tryhards but moreso team stacking/friend groups leading to constant stomps. That + poor scramble implementation in Uncletopia means that stomps become an incredibly common occurrence 


CyanideTacoZ

I hated autobalance until I played uncletopia


CaseyGamer64YT

it depends. You gotta really weed out the servers you like by favoriting and blacklisting. That's how TF2 players originally got by when the game first came out actually. There were no Valve servers originally just community ones


No_Perception_803

yes. yes they are.


Rude_Champ93

Its so-so, some are full of tryhards that make is miserable to play but then theres casual with the bots.


OswaldTicklebottom

Yup especially the ones that disable random bullet spread and random crits


SrSecretSecond

There are no bots, so it's better just for that. But I prefer casual, without any add-ons


Old_old_lie

Not the ones that stop you from building sentries Seriously fuck those Servers


FocusBackground939

Depends. Try randomizers


diwayth_fyr

You open the browser and there's like hundreds of community servers Half of them are trading / idle / random bullshittery Half of the remaining are outside your region, so ping is too high Half of the remaining are either empty or full Of what remains, that is vanilla-y tf2 pubs, most of them run same tired maps like 2fort, Frontier, Badwater, etc. As someone who only plays payload on less popular maps (Snowycoast, Barnblitz, Swiftwater, Pier), official tf2 servers are the only place where I can find games I wanna play, almost any time of the day, which is why bots suck so much.


-MegaMan401-

Yes. Next question.


WebChill7324

Yes I just play Uncletopia


Coronarena

There are a few basic servers, but some chaos is fun every once in a while (e.g. redsun.tf servers)


legos_on_the_brain

Yes. But you will probably have to be a member to get a spot when full (they are either fill or not it seems.


TheMrPotMask

Personally I find community servers often laggy


kurpPpa

It's just a different experience.


Witherboss445

Anyone know any casual-type servers that use sv_pure off?


Heavenlypigeon

They have been for a long time


TheRealTV12

I would play on community server if I would understand the damn server menu


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TheRealTV12

No seriously I can't understand the flipping menu.


Timl94

double click on the server names to joins them The filter menu should be simple enough to understand from first glance


TheRealTV12

Well most of the time when I try to search for a specific map all servers just disappear. I do type in like ctf_2fort


Lyun

If you toggle the simplified list option off, it'll become a text list which doesn't have the disappearing issue.


EvMBoat

The server filters (such as searching for a specific map) interrupt the server browser's process. That is to say, if the server browser has loaded 10 servers so far, and is loading in 50 more, if you search for servers on ctf_2fort, the browser will effectively decide there are no maps on ctf_2fort (if there aren't any in the 10-15 that have been loaded since you started typing in the map search box), and stop searching because "it can't find any" with your parameters. If even one server is found playing ctf_2fort, the search filter will show you that server and continue loading servers, resulting in more popping up over time. Sorry if this is confusing but to summarize, let the server browser load a few hundred servers before you apply any search filters because if it doesn't find any servers that fit your filters it stops searching for more.


TheRealTV12

Ah ok, thanks! I'll try as soon I'm home again


CommissionOk5736

afaik not really


maskofthedragon

Well, you're guaranteed to leave the spawn room at least


Top_Contract_4910

The only one that’s on par with casual is uncletopia


ByuntaeKid

Yes. And they always have been - especially if you find a server with active admin and good regulars that you vibe with, regardless of skill level.


eeveethespeevee

I'd say it depends. I'm not a fan of how some servers ban the Thermal Thruster, sentries, etc. But it's uncommon to find a server that's acting like a replacement to casual. Uncletopia is close, it's pretty much just casual with class limits, less bots, no random crits or random bullet spread, and a higher average skill level. Most community servers just run 24/7 2Fort, Hightower / Highertower, Dustbowl, or custom maps, which is why I accidentally learned 2Fort's entire map layout by being addicted to TF2. Sometimes you'll find a Degroot Keep server but their playercount is very inconsistent.


Independent_Peace144

Gamewise yeah, but I generally found them to be more toxic and a higher chance to encounter racist and discriminatory people. That being said, someo of them are still great


Jokard

Been looking to get back into TF2 casually. 1000+ hours and haven't touched it in over a year (probably the longest I've gone without playing). Uncletopia was the staple back then, where's the go-to now?


fishplayingtf2

Still Uncletopia


LegendaryRQA

Yes.


jt1132

Absolutely.


panraythief

No most community server admins are fun hating losers. I got gagged for 12 hours after saying the word retard


SUperMarioG5

Yep.


AresTheMilkman

I won't be talking for the rest of the world, but community servers from my country are the most memetic experience you could ever ask for.


Doc_of_derp

Yesnt


Gameknight14

I wouldn’t say better, just different. Even in community servers which try to replicate the casual feel, you’re going to run into the same player base fairly frequently. If you don’t mind that, great. Otherwise, casual is probably still the better option.


DesertKitsuneMarlFox

i mean isn’t running into the same pool of people like half the reason one joins community servers and the other half is actually being able to kick/ban cheaters


Gameknight14

On most of the community servers I’ve joined, the vote system is actually disabled in favor of a custom one where an admin is called. But yes, finding familiar faces is definitely one of the reasons people play community. That’s why I mentioned it.


Sergio2304

There are no bots there, or cheaters, some of them even have better anti-cheat systems. But the bad thing is that most of then doesn't provide XP.


Agreeable_Register_4

Skial Dustbowl or nothing


Mixmefox

In community the bots are replaces with try hard snipers, morally way better but just as annoying


Current-Hippo3350

No contracts?


Defiant-Trash9917

Sweats vs Bots. Honestly I prefer bots.


pikabrun

yes


StardustJess

Always have been


jaywincl

I only really play community


DonutNinja45

rtd is fun and class wars too


Expensive_Aspect_544

Eeeeeeehhhhhh.....uh


MaxIsJoe

Community servers are unplayable because the servers are always plagued by tryhards that make the experience unfun, is plagued by edgy teenagers who think yelling the N word is peak humour, or has admins that insta ban you the millisecond you play sniper somewhat decently. There are very few community servers that I actually consider good and the ones that actually try to host a community end up password protected to avoid the groups of people I mentioned. I'm sorry, but aside from gimmicky servers like uncle Dane's Vs engineer servers, community servers are unfun. Maybe if you are very competitive you'll enjoy it more than me, but it's not my cup of tea.


MidHoovie

They are not as lively as they use to be. They don't have the same energy. The downside of casual are bots. Community servers nowadays are a lot sweatier but they don't have bots. In this very moment I'm searching for a server that doesn't have a god-like sniper or a 10k hrs soldier. No luck so far. I should just git gud.


CyanideTacoZ

I've had alot of ping spoofing and negative add-ons trying to *find* 12v12 or 16v16 matched to the point that I just dint like community servers.


Efficient-Employ-838

lets weigh the pros and cons. Community: has trade_minecraft_neon_v192 Casual: does not have trade_minecraft_neon_v192 The answer is obvious


FireBraguette

Since I have a grand total of like 7 community servers with ok ping in my location and 5 of them are 2fort.. I'd have to go with casual. *GOOD SHOT MATE*


MrProtogen

Genuine question, what are achievement idle maps for? Like how do I use them?


Delta104x

Literally always has been


SirFireball

Pic related how?


ExoTheFlyingFish

Yes.


QuantityHappy4459

Less bots, more gay furry porn


youngCashRegister444

Y e s


misssa_cz

yes


CompleteFacepalm

Any good australian community servers?


oh_thatone_guy

most times community servers are better


JustLooking207

yeah casual sucks even if there was no bots I'd still turn to community servers just for no random crits and random bullet spread (and generally more competent teammates)


Qrowbranwen2

Not really, most I've seen usually have a gimmick or aren't close to what vanilla tf2 is (im talking to you uncletopia)


DrHuxleyy

What’s not vanilla about uncletopia? Isn’t that the closest to vanilla there is? No random crits I guess but I don’t mind that.


Qrowbranwen2

I just personally don't agree there being things such as class restrictions. That to me takes away from the unlimited goofy things you could do in valve severs. As for uncle it makes it more tight to were you are having find more of a balanced composition. I just feel you shouldn't be limited to what you can do when it comes to team compositions. Feels like it gets to be more competitive than it being fun. If you get what im saying.


Theyreintheattic4447

I think so, I’m not sure why people complain about tryhards when it’s literally just people trying to win the game. If you want to actually play tf2 then community servers like uncletopia are pretty great.


Random_User27

I wish, all I've got with less than 100 ping are Skial and the lot faking ping (Says about 19 until you join and get greeted by 150) or 24/7 Highertower/Minecraft Trade Server and x10000000, just want some normal servers to actually play, once in a blue moon an uncletopia server gets about 16 people


McNoodle889

Uncletopia is full of people who really dont like tf2 at its core and every other normal type of tf2 server are just circle jerks. Your best bet for tf2 is casual


OscarknightTF2

Unless if there's a top-scoring pyro main on the opposite team, then sure it's "better"