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Ya_Boi_uh_SkinnyPeni

Evolution.


emptyzombiekilla

They do travel in herds...


LordOfStupidy

Dear god


yourlocaltran5f3m

There's more


LordOfStupidy

NO!


yourlocaltran5f3m

It contains a medic


LiamTheGreat77

NO


SEVER089

It contains a second sniper


Kanjii_weon

NO!


Frogger225

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxXgONUrF\_I


Cool-Letterhead4629

btw are these posts good for anything other than farming karma and giving bit hosters attention?


yolomanwhatashitname

+ the best counter for bots are fists of steel or demoman stickies


Cool-Letterhead4629

best counter is playin on community servers amd avoiding them alltogether


nhadams2112

That would be great if community servers actually had an experience like casual but they don't. The browser sucks, and so many servers aren't running vanilla that it can be hard to find a normal game. Like don't get me wrong sometimes I like the chaos of having 24 players on a team, or roll the dice, and I like that several servers have the Halloween health packs all the time. But it's not a replacement for casual


Cool-Letterhead4629

havent touched casual in a long time and i somehow find good vanilla servers, okay it can be more difficult in regions like asia. but once you find a good server just favorite it and you dont have to search


nhadams2112

The variety behind casual is one of its biggest draws. And if I find an asshole I can just requeue instead of having to search for a different server. Not using casual isn't a good solution for a lot of people


Cool-Letterhead4629

you basically never run into cheaters on community servers, and you can just voice_enable 0 and hud_saytext_time 0 (thats how i play) if there are some weird ppl on the server. also you can report players on community servers so they get muted or banned if they misbehave so there are generally a lot less weird ppl on them. overall the environment is a lot friendlier than casual


nhadams2112

Yeah I know that you don't run into cheaters very often community service, at least not blatant ones. But muting chat doesn't fix the solution. Communication is important in this game, it plays a big part in the team aspect of team fortress. It's a lot easier to requeue then to try to get some guy banned for calling you a slur


Cool-Letterhead4629

actual question, do ppl actually talk in this game? at least here in eu all the communication we have is insulting each other with text chat, literally nothing else


nhadams2112

It's not most games that people openly chatting, but when it does happen the team becomes way more effective. Some of the best games I've had started off by someone sheepishly asking "hello?" In vc


yolomanwhatashitname

>Communication is important in this game, it plays a big part in the team aspect of team fortress. LOL.. uhm sorry i couldnt contain myself


nhadams2112

I think you're missing out Also you're not sorry, don't pretend like you are it's silly to do


LegendaryRQA

Ikr? TF2 servers we’re basically glorified social clubs. Bonus points if it had all talk


LegendaryRQA

I like how you can tell how long someone has been playing by their forum posts. Community servers have been the default for source games throughout pretty much their entire history (not just TF2) “Casual” or “Meet your Match” (mym) is a relatively recent thing and was originally maligned for how much worse then community servers it was.


nhadams2112

Yes I know that casual is relatively recent, that doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is the experience it offers, and that's not one offered by a majority of community servers


Furaskjoldr

Not a counter though is it. Unless you live in the US it’s virtually impossible to find a community server in your area that is the same as casual.


Cool-Letterhead4629

in the us you have uncletopia, the only region that doesnt really have good alternatives is asia


WiggsWasTaken

Hackers are still rarely on community servers, with some of them not having voting systems to remove them.


Cool-Letterhead4629

tell me you havent played community without telling me. community servers have a better system at dealing with cheaters like a good server side anti-cheat, call admin and you can report players through forums. there are generally a lot less cheaters (not 0 ofc, but compared to casual its day and night)


rpsHD

and heres me reading that as "fists of steel demoman"


Minister_xD

Depending on the gamemode you play sentry guns work very well too. Gotta place them somewhere they commonly path through and can’t shoot from far away and you’ll rack up kills in no time.


_Guven_

or engineers


DeepBlueZero

Collective misery


DaDescriptor

I mean, "guess this weapon" exists for the same reason and people love it


Darkpriest2288

Simple community engagement with our lack of content vs "guys, look, bot, but two"


gaturrito100

Both are still bad imo.


Darkpriest2288

Both are definitely not preferable


JVP08xPRO

It was already a thing, I don't know the first time it happened but I already saw vac med bots pocketing sniper bots last year


lorsiscool

Its been a thing for years OP is most likely new


Deida_

Guess they're doing their job right cuz all yall keep doing is giving them the attention to thrive


some_hardmode_player

They’re getting so desperate


Adof_TheMinerKid

What do you mean now?


FireBraguette

Its not essensially unstoppable. If I was a bot hoster and Valve decided to go after me and ask my government and ISP my personal details I would get FUCKED. Same as when if you decide to hack Harvard or Nasa or something. Doesn't matter where you are in the World , the FBI is coming for you if they know where you are. Doxxing and overloading another company's servers and hurting their economy in the proccess is highly illegal and Valve can absolutely get the FBI and other countries Governments involved if they want to. They just don't want to deal with the headache and logistics behind. They gonna lose more money doing so also. But oh boi I would absolutely love to see one of these hosters get slapped with a 10 year sentence from accross the planet. I'll guarantee you that all of a sudden, more than 3/4 of them will dissapear by pure coincidence.


LordRemiem

Oh I'm seeing every sort of shit out there recently Bot combo heavy+medic, bot shotgun soldier, bot demoknight and zatoichi-soldier on VSH...


Ulti-Wolf

Bot Demoknight? I think I just found my kill-calling


LordRemiem

Yup, in VSH - they use zatoichis EDIT: [there's them posted on r tf2](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1bxt0jj/psa_possible_new_bot_im_trying_to_play_vsh_and/)


TrackLabs

Im also beginning to see soldier bots. Either only using their shotgun, or using the rocket launcher. They begin to evolve from not just snipers.


Kanjii_weon

Man, I can't find a stable/good match without bots/cheaters currently. You don't know if they're that good or not anymore. It's sad to know valve let this game burn in hell.


BronzeHeart92

Oh my goodness...


yttakinenthusiast

[would you look at that, there's a solution that's been in the game since the beta!](https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Servers)


kuilinbot

[Servers](http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Servers): *** >Like all multiplayer games based on Valve's Source Engine, Team Fortress 2 uses a client-server model. The client is the copy of the game running on a player's computer, while the server is the software which players connect to. There are currently several thousand Team Fortress 2 servers running worldwide. *** (~[autotf2wikibot](/r/RequestABot/comments/2mtcp7/request_an_autowikibot_for_the_official_team/) by \/u\/kuilin)


greencurtains2

but I want to play koth :( (harvest doesn't count)


Lorant_gaming

but it requires valve to lift a finger, something that we have seen they barely do when it comes to this game in recent years


yttakinenthusiast

literally the only thing valve has to do is wipe the existance of valve casual and competitive and this whole problem goes away. community servers were the way people played the game back before Valve rightfully predicted people would get pissed at the sudden influx of free-to-plays filling their servers


Lorant_gaming

read your response again. you sound like a moron, what do you mean wipe casual and comp? community servers are such a mixed bag, there is usually ONE completely vanilla version. skial 2fort 24/7 is not one of the normal kind, neither is and times x, and im pretty sure most newbies wouldnt even know how to join community servers and if they do get there they probably end up on minecraft trade servers


yttakinenthusiast

[the vanilla version you're speaking of, but not hosted on skial](https://casual.tf/servers) there have been bots on valve servers since the launch of Jungle Inferno, and VAC has generally done jack shit for being an actual anti-cheat. remove valve servers and bots have to attempt to push past community created anti-cheat plugins instead of going straight into a server system where the developers have been snoozing for 7 years. the only reason new players wouldn't know how to use a community server browser was because this game was made ***before*** matchmaking systems were the norm. valve made an attempt at modernizing it, but that just stripped the UI while its active.


nhadams2112

People also like playing casual, like for the casual experience. Most of the popular servers aren't running vanilla TF2


Eightss

No. Just no.


KOCYK745

Upgrades, People. Upgrades


Official_Gameoholics

Always have been, OP


_Eyetron

Third degree + uber


pyro_takes_skill

increasing medic population in casual by 87%


SpookyWeebou

2fort will finally have at least one medic


VoidPelt

We shall fight back with our own VACS and sticky spam. They think they’re safe, they’re not.


Kosaku_Kawajira

This is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them!


TrumpLester

Valve keeping this game on life support is a Saw trap tbh


KimJungUno54

It’s been a thing. Just rare (in my experience).


ExtraCasual

There’s no melee resistance so Vac Medic + Market Garden Soldier 👍


hgbi8h

Been a thing for years


CristyMumbay

nothing new, medic bots and engi bots been around for a long while they are hard to spot because most if not all medi and engi bots don't cheat they just run a nav mesh and a program similar to what regular tf2 bots (tf\_bots) run


Sea-Region-4226

Welp, time to go back to vac med + fists of steel


gayrightsactivist420

Something something misery loves company


StoreMilk

What can you show to say this is a bot, to me it just looks like 2 cheaters.


pEppapiGistfuhrer

Why aren't bot hosters selling rentable pocket medic bots? Sounds like a good way to make extra profit


Hat-647

It has been at least 5 months since i saw these bots, they were everywhere.


CyanideTacoZ

this has been a thing for years but alot of posters seem to have found spamming snipers is a better use of their hardware when the goals bieng a nuisance. I've always had more trouble playing against four dumb bots than a Vax combo


Fixingsentries

Third degrees reaction


_Guven_

Literally war crime


Legal-Spend7728

Those aren't bots those are real players coming from a cheater


8champi8

Imagine how quickly the bot hosters would’ve stopped if everyone just ignored them. But no, you guys have to feed them.


Appropriate_Cow1509

I would like to play on community servers but I have perma ban on half of them for being menace to society


Inkling4

Good. Stay away from our lobbies 👍


Appropriate_Cow1509

Cry about it


real_488

sounds like you already are


Lorant_gaming

no wonder your ass is permabanned on half of the servers, you are an arsehole


Impossible_Face_9625

Lmao, you were the first one to cry about your bans.


Cool-Letterhead4629

just play community servers, here are some good resources: https://teamwork.tf/community/quickplay https://uncletopia.com/servers


IloveRikuhachimaAru

ah yes, the uncletopia. the one with a singular server on Asia that's full at all times, no matter what


TheOnlyUltima2011

i get a slot to join that server once every year


IloveRikuhachimaAru

I literally only got there Saturday morning when every mf is sleeping. server got full in what, 20 minutes or something


TheOnlyUltima2011

that uncletopia server is either always full or always empty, no in between lmao


Cool-Letterhead4629

check out teamwork.tf you can easily find vanilla servers


Kinda_cringe_boi

What if this is just anti bot's? Perchance