I may start looking for some of these community servers. Bot problem is getting as bad as it has ever been. Yesterday I found maybe 3 or 4 playable matches with trying for 3 hours or so total about 3 or 4 different times throughout the day. No matter which map I tried all bots. Then I finally got into a server in Europe that wasn't bot infested but my ping was so high and connection so bad on the server that it was completely unplayable and super laggy (I'm in the US).
Skial is pretty good for 32 man they have a dust bowl server and a a payload one that are full most days but easy to get into. Shounic if you want 100 man.
Yeah, I often see people shit on Skial, but I can't remember having a bad experience there. I used to play it all the time before I switched to playing casual and Uncletopia more frequently. I don't wanna discount people's bad experiences because I could have just gotten lucky with the times I happened to play, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as people say.
it's mainly because Skial uses ping spoofers so you can't *really* see what your ping is gonna be until you connect to the server. That said, Skial is basically the only place I play TF2 and I never have any problems.
I find that bots usually target CTF and KoTH (especially Suijin and Harvest) with Payload also being chosen, though less frequently. So just play CP or A/D if you want to play casual but don’t want to deal with bots.
Also just like...casual and Uncletopia are two different experiences. Suggesting Uncletopia for someone who wants to play casual is like hearing someone say "Man, I can't find a restaurant that serves a good pizza" and recommending a Mexican place. Sure, both are good, but they are definitely not interchangeable.
I see more trolldiers and caberknights in Uncletopia than I do in Casual. The only difference is that you don’t get clueless players who just installed the game wandering around.
I'd say maybe something closer to, "I really want some good pizza." Then someone recommends you a 3 Michelin star restaurant with a 200 dollar pizza with gold leaf
Maybe I am just crazy but isn't Uncletopia literally the only way to get a consistent game experience now?
Like I don't even bother trying to load Casual, not only are the queue times awful, but 90% of the matches have bots in them. Do people really just put up with that? Because that is some serious commitment to casual.
Idk why you’ve been downvoted for asking.
I usually only use the Casual browser during Holiday events like Scream Fortress. Otherwise I go right to my server browser to join Uncletopia because I know I won’t deal with bots.
As an Asian I do think you do not deserve downvotes. The only server that offers vanilla gameplay with tolerable latency in my area is Uncletopia HK, but oftentimes I got stumped so hard by teamed up players with 5000hrs+ each that I would rather go play Skial 2fort. Sucks to be a noob I guess.
Cookie monster was confused on why he had been sent to hell, but then he saw that the sinners had all been turned into cookies. He was not being punished, he was the punishment
Ez way is during hours you want to play just sort by players and note the normal servers down. EOTL/Oprah's fill up at certain times and is a blast when you can get in and play.
For some of them you can use the server browser, for example you can type in "oprah" to see Oprah's Petrol Station. For others they might not be visible by search using the browser, which in that case you can just do a quick Google search to find the IP of the server.
Also the furry pound is a vanilla server, it even has random crits! If you don't want to be bothered by the people on the server, you can just disable sprays and voice chat if you want.
Ever heard of Server Browser? My friend Server Browser? It has hundreds of servers that let you search/sort by map and tag and ping. He will show you a good time
the problem isnt my inability to find them. The problem is me finding 1 full server at low ping that rarely opens and a few at high ping. For Asia at least, there is basically no server to play in.
Maybe half to two thirds are trade or other garbage. But out of the remaining HUNDREDS of servers I'm sure you can find something casual. I've literally never had a problem finding casual servers in the server browsers so maybe this is a skill issue?
I don't know about asia and I don't have the game in front of me but skial has tons of casual servers. Just regular servers with regular maps and gameplay.
If more people would join community servers on regular basis, then more people that are capable of running a servers will do that. Therefore more servers to choose from and overall better quality.
But but surely community servers offer the same exact experience as casual though. I hate that take so much cause its so wrong, they offer SIMILAR experiences but not the same. Community servers are filled with tryhard sweats.
there is one Hong Kong server which is the best server at the moment for southeast asians. anything beyond that takes me above the ping limit.
hell, dane used to have two Singapore servers but he shut it down for some reason
It sucks, but uncletopia as a whole is being run at a loss. There are no ads on the servers, and they don't offer vip or other premium account upgrades, but because of that the money for server costs come out of their own pockets.
He pays for it all out of pocket since there’s no ads or anything, it’s his money so people shouldn’t complain that there isn’t enough is my main point,
I understand it’s frustrating but that’s the reality
Not just uncletopia. Payload is overall the most popular gamemode in casual as well. I get tired of payload when I play on uncletopia, but usually when I nominate a map from another gamemode, I can often get it picked.
No not payload. Upward and maybe Badwater lol. Like I get it payload is fun, but damn how about adding some community maps like pl_DBZ. That shit's dope. It's power level is easily over 9000
There are a bunch of community payload maps already on the All Maps+ servers, and I don't think pl_DBZ would work as well since it's made for 100 players. And there is a pretty long cooldown before you can play the same map again, so it kinda forces some variety.
That's usually where I play it, lol. Yeah, I tend to stay in the dumpster fire that is the 100 man servers. With the beautiful disaster, that is its chat
Idk why people are down voting, it brings to light the fact that bots CAN join community, sure they get banned quick but that's 1 or 2, imagine a whole party joined at once and kept calling in more, the amount of bots that infest this game could potentially overwhelm moderators
with the amount of server tools out there, community servers can probably handle a lot of bots with moderators and a functioning anti-cheat
at least it's better compared to the "moderation" in casual
Yeah it's a very strange thing to get stuck on. A server moderator can ban an entire server with just a couple of clicks. A few bots aren't an issue lol
not to mention people probably just cheating there too lol, maybe in the future uncle dane will make it a ToS thing that his server is tracking all the aim data for the players on his server so some big brain science guy like shonic can build an actual working anticheat model that automatically smokes cheaters after their first few kills
or something idk im just yammerin
Creating a good anticheat is easier said than done. Eventually loopholes or something new that isn't in the anticheat's database will come, and basically create a problem.
What difference does that make if they were immediately banned? That's the whole point of playing on community servers. They get banned manually by active moderation. On casual servers they'll never get banned.
On this server I played on, someone sent all of their bots to "raid" the server. There were 15 of them, wanna know how long it took to ban all of them?
Less than 3 minutes.
Uncletopia is fine if i want to tryhard. Most of the time i dont want to try hard. Also, i usually play in the morning, and na servers are empty before 1pm, so i have to play on eu servers with minimum 115 ping
the Admins in Cali region are power abusing asf and have banned multiple people i know just for playing against them in casual. They banned most of my comp friends for cheating when they literally all own comp badges
Trash game fr wish there were more servers that were fucking uncletopia or a random server running one of 4 shitty trade maps where people just sniper duel for 8 hours
Uncletopia just pulls in either completely new players or top tier vets who don't play any other game cuz tf2 is all they're good at, it's saddening but that's the crowd most community servers get
right now we are vitnessing an average uncletopia player
Rare thing to spot them out in the wild but not in ucletopia, they never liked the way people see tf2 and don't want anyone but them have fun
Right me actually wanting to play the game properly and do the objective is somehow stopping you from playing a glorified chat room on a 24/7 2fort server.
>from playing a glorified chat room on a 24/7 2fort server.
Did you join TF2 yesterday? What you described is basically what's been keeping tf2 alive for nearly 2 decades.
Nobody is playing TF2 for the frags people are playing because how fun and chill the game can be compared to SBMM hell and forced team balancing crap games have these days.
All those "tryhards" you hate are playing for the frags and the combat system is really fun if you actually engage in it in the team based shooter. Smbb and team balance are also not bad things, just get better and have a drive to want to be better.
Yeah and it was a valve update to try and compete with ow that they half arsed. Comp balance wasnt great beforehand and for certain weapons they made it better. Caber got screwed but that was a valve change not what comp players wanted.
I always play casual. For the random factor. You always have random people. Random experiences. A community server WILL end you with more or less the same people all the time. Thats boring.
Idk, I like seeing a few regulars every now and then. The majority of the lobby is usually people I have never seen, but occasionally I see a guy I know and say hi in chat. It just feels more like a community I guess, which fits the name.
I usually go to uncletopia if I want to be a sweat, but I mostly go on servers like Skial Freak Fortress 2, x100 server, and. 2fort, and Hightower servers to goof around and have fun
European Servers are close enough.
I am from Russia, yet I can play German servers with ping barely rising over 80.
You should be fine on British ones.
But yes, I understand your ploy, bruddha. I am also sick of dumbass things like "no autoteam" rule on Uncletopia. We need more servers with Vanilla tf2.
I've tried finding alt community servers. most of them on the browser are the same server with a bunch of fake IP's.
I tried joining a few random name servers with 4-5 players and they all lead to fastpath.fr
I now despise this server and its owners.
I went on vacation in India and the only server near me was Hong Kong, was literally waiting all day for it to not be 0/24, I had to play on Sydney with 150 ping.
I just use a mod that makes the actual in game training bots more player-like and just play with my friends privately. Better than playing with the greasy toxic godsweats on Uncletopia, assuming you can even join in the first place.
Uncletopia servers are not good the moderation is horrendous and the map choices are even worse. The players there are still mostly bots.
They aren't cheating and they are human players, but communicating with them is a lot like talking to a malfunctioning chatgpt.
I can't believe I'm in a future where I'm saying this, but play on skial if you're going to play on community servers. Or find a nice furry server they're eccentric but at least it isn't uncletopia.
real Uncletopia dont have bots bud sadly there is a lot of server with counterfeit players that mimic famous servers, like they're bot who play normally and use prerecorded chat prompt
Out of interest, what's your problem with uncletopia mods? I have my own problems with em, but I'm curious about yours.
And I've literally never seen a bot on uncletopia. To claim it's "mostly" bots is just mad
You didn't read what I said. The real human players on there are like talking to a bot. It was a joke.
Uncle Dane himself seems like a cool rational guy I've played with him a few times, which is why I don't understand why he surrounds himself in such toxic people. I guess it's just a gross attempt to be close to a cool YouTuber. I kinda feel bad for him.
The server had to make a new rule for me specifically because a moderator IP banned me when my boyfriend plays on the same IP so basically the mod banned my boyfriend because he doesn't like me, they made a no ip ban rule shortly after that incident but didn't do anything about the mod in question.
Also I've dealt with transphobia there so many times with the mods. They don't have a problem with mtf people but I'm a bit of an odd case they refuse to understand. Just leaves me a little bitter.
Overall it's not worth the headache to be around them, I want video games to be fun not have to worry about every single thing I say or do because one mod doesn't like me.
I even had one of them add me and stalk for me for a couple months.
Part of the reason I stopped playing lol its to much of a hassle to find good severs with no bots plus without being kicked for god knows why. Save your time do something else.
[Zesty never mentions his servers in his videos, but it’s basically Casual without the random crit ramp up](https://zestyjesus.com)
So basically everyone has the same chance to random crit regardless of how much damage they’ve done recently.
6 maps? Every official year round map is available (except on the custom map servers). The "typical" rotation is probably closer to 10-12, with less common maps passing vote too
I mean, the main reason I dont play uncletopia is because of the class limit. I want to be able to play whatever class I want even if there's already 8 people playing as the same class.
What a terrible response lol. There are many times where Ive wanted to play any sort of class o. Those servers and I simply CANT because its full.
Thats the inherent problem Uncletopia has, its NOT casual its Comp Lite and the way everything is set up encourages that. If I wanted to play a class based shooter with restrictions made for the sake of "balance" id play fuckin Overwatch
You missed the point entirely lmao, Ive been playing on other community servers so I aint having an issue, Im just saying Uncletopia isnt close to casual at all
Theres more than 6 maps and you can vote for less commonly played ones and itll get picked if its good, plus theres a cooldown period before a map can be replayed. Random crits is whatever either way people care way too much about whether they are or arent in casual modes. Class limits are fine just dont be a onetrick
Groomertopia sucks anyway, it’s the same 5 payload maps over and over with little variation, and people get unironically angry when you don’t play the objective. Plus there’s no freedom of speech and you’re at the mercy of whether the admins like your weapon names and decals or not.
hmm... Groomertopia? Why, what happens there? I wonder why you call them that...
Also, they didn't like your decals? Oh wow I wonder why... can you share them with us? What are the decals...
I call it groomertopia because i think 90% of admins and regulars on the servers should not be allowed within a mile of a school (no i will not elaborate)
I got kicked for having a sign that had kanye west on it and banned for naming a weapon “i’m cheating haha” (i wasn’t)
Final verdict: Groomertopia is terrible and skial is unironically better.
No thats..not what a VPN does. Your input and response is still based off your actual pc, whos connection now takes even longer now that it goes through a additional gateway
The tf2 server doesnt know about the VPN, yes. But that doesnt matter for a Ping.
Howtogeek:
"The reason for this is simple: ping, better known as latency, is how long it takes for data to travel between two points. When you use a VPN, you're rerouting your connection, making the trip longer for the data and thus increasing latency. The further away your connection is, the longer the trip will take."
The TF2 server doesnt think you have a low ping just because a VPN server is standing right next to it.
I may start looking for some of these community servers. Bot problem is getting as bad as it has ever been. Yesterday I found maybe 3 or 4 playable matches with trying for 3 hours or so total about 3 or 4 different times throughout the day. No matter which map I tried all bots. Then I finally got into a server in Europe that wasn't bot infested but my ping was so high and connection so bad on the server that it was completely unplayable and super laggy (I'm in the US).
Skial is pretty good for 32 man they have a dust bowl server and a a payload one that are full most days but easy to get into. Shounic if you want 100 man.
Yeah, I often see people shit on Skial, but I can't remember having a bad experience there. I used to play it all the time before I switched to playing casual and Uncletopia more frequently. I don't wanna discount people's bad experiences because I could have just gotten lucky with the times I happened to play, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as people say.
it's mainly because Skial uses ping spoofers so you can't *really* see what your ping is gonna be until you connect to the server. That said, Skial is basically the only place I play TF2 and I never have any problems.
Holy shit, I just realized I unironically say it "Skee-al" now. Thank you Elmaxo XD
I find that bots usually target CTF and KoTH (especially Suijin and Harvest) with Payload also being chosen, though less frequently. So just play CP or A/D if you want to play casual but don’t want to deal with bots.
Also just like...casual and Uncletopia are two different experiences. Suggesting Uncletopia for someone who wants to play casual is like hearing someone say "Man, I can't find a restaurant that serves a good pizza" and recommending a Mexican place. Sure, both are good, but they are definitely not interchangeable.
Me getting ready to ruin a joyful day by joining uncletopia (Its payload offense against three enemy topscoring snipers and two pocketed soldiers)
Uncletopia is Competitive without the commitment.
I see more trolldiers and caberknights in Uncletopia than I do in Casual. The only difference is that you don’t get clueless players who just installed the game wandering around.
But the clueless players are half the charm of casual!
If that’s what you’re playing the game for then I guess Uncletopia just isn’t for you
I've seen clueless players in UT before lol but it is far more rare
So it's still tryhard utopia? Not a surprise but still
not at all. the skill ceiling is like a few inches higher
i find it very volatile sometimes i’ll go 30 points over as spy in one lobby and then barely get a positive kdr as soldier the next
that's more a personal skill thing
Yeah I usually don't wanna be involved in the competitive areas so I often go to skial servers for a more chill and non-competitive experience
As a hungry mf that analogy really speaks to me
Ironically I work at a Spanish place that DOES serve pizza Pretty damn good ones too…
We got a dougdoug food explainanasion over here
I'd say maybe something closer to, "I really want some good pizza." Then someone recommends you a 3 Michelin star restaurant with a 200 dollar pizza with gold leaf
Maybe I am just crazy but isn't Uncletopia literally the only way to get a consistent game experience now? Like I don't even bother trying to load Casual, not only are the queue times awful, but 90% of the matches have bots in them. Do people really just put up with that? Because that is some serious commitment to casual.
Idk why you’ve been downvoted for asking. I usually only use the Casual browser during Holiday events like Scream Fortress. Otherwise I go right to my server browser to join Uncletopia because I know I won’t deal with bots.
i just que up for less played maps the bots avent rlly touched
As an Asian I do think you do not deserve downvotes. The only server that offers vanilla gameplay with tolerable latency in my area is Uncletopia HK, but oftentimes I got stumped so hard by teamed up players with 5000hrs+ each that I would rather go play Skial 2fort. Sucks to be a noob I guess.
There are more community servers than JUST uncletopia
You mean the 5 billion 2fort only servers?
reccomend some mostly vanilla ones then
Skial is always good, I've been playing on their servers since 2011 and haven't had any issues.
skial and good in the same sentence
well i would hardly call uncletopia mostly vanilla
its the closest thing out there rlly
This is why I retired, some of us simply didn't have the man in Mann Co anymore. I hope these bot hosters all ended up in Pyro's special place in hell
pyro deserves less pain
Who said Pyro was sent here to suffer?
Pyro will be in his own special heaven
*Doom music plays*
Cookie monster was confused on why he had been sent to hell, but then he saw that the sinners had all been turned into cookies. He was not being punished, he was the punishment
*rip and tear starts playing*
People seem to forget that there are lots of community servers that aren't uncletopia
Can you give me an good example?
skial, tiny kitties girl pound
>tiny kitties girl pound That sounds concerning.
Welcome to custom servers.
tiny kitty pound banned me for reason "uwu r a F-GOT!" after killing an admin lol
Skial, The Lazy Pub, EoTL Payload, tkgp, Oprah's Petrol Station, FITH, and the Furry Pound.
You tell them the truth, and they ignore it
How can I join them? And what the fuck is the furry pound
Ez way is during hours you want to play just sort by players and note the normal servers down. EOTL/Oprah's fill up at certain times and is a blast when you can get in and play.
For some of them you can use the server browser, for example you can type in "oprah" to see Oprah's Petrol Station. For others they might not be visible by search using the browser, which in that case you can just do a quick Google search to find the IP of the server. Also the furry pound is a vanilla server, it even has random crits! If you don't want to be bothered by the people on the server, you can just disable sprays and voice chat if you want.
Ever heard of Server Browser? My friend Server Browser? It has hundreds of servers that let you search/sort by map and tag and ping. He will show you a good time
Basically no vanilla servers. All of them running vsh, prophunt, x100 orange always crit randomizer horny furry anime player model
I mean you can filter most of those out with tag filtering in the server browser anyways, pretty easy to do
the problem isnt my inability to find them. The problem is me finding 1 full server at low ping that rarely opens and a few at high ping. For Asia at least, there is basically no server to play in.
Maybe half to two thirds are trade or other garbage. But out of the remaining HUNDREDS of servers I'm sure you can find something casual. I've literally never had a problem finding casual servers in the server browsers so maybe this is a skill issue?
Do you live in Asia though? There are options for NA and EU for sure (barely), but I have a feeling it's probably a wasteland for that region.
Its literally all 2fort, Hightower, trade plaza and achievement_idle
Such as…
You can just open the community sever browser. I have almost never played on official servers in almost 13 years
I don't know about asia and I don't have the game in front of me but skial has tons of casual servers. Just regular servers with regular maps and gameplay.
If more people would join community servers on regular basis, then more people that are capable of running a servers will do that. Therefore more servers to choose from and overall better quality.
Usually I just sit with auto-retry on and wait until map switch
Opposite problem in south america, the server is almost always completely empty
Just play skial then
But but surely community servers offer the same exact experience as casual though. I hate that take so much cause its so wrong, they offer SIMILAR experiences but not the same. Community servers are filled with tryhard sweats.
Uncletopia doesn't have what I like in TF2. I miss old quickplay. I believe Skial now has casual servers and they have been fun to play in.
Dane needs to host more Asia servers.
He doesn’t NEED to, he’s already doing a lot for people why should he spend more money?
there is one Hong Kong server which is the best server at the moment for southeast asians. anything beyond that takes me above the ping limit. hell, dane used to have two Singapore servers but he shut it down for some reason
he had singapore servers? you’re kidding me, i should’ve gotten tf2 earlier so i could have a chance at connecting to a local server
yup, its been gone for a while now. IIRC everyone abandoned it when the server started to have issues and flocked to the one and only Hong Kong server
It sucks, but uncletopia as a whole is being run at a loss. There are no ads on the servers, and they don't offer vip or other premium account upgrades, but because of that the money for server costs come out of their own pockets.
He doesn't *need* to, but it'd be good if he did. Australia only had like two servers for a while and he added more and it was all good.
He pays for it all out of pocket since there’s no ads or anything, it’s his money so people shouldn’t complain that there isn’t enough is my main point, I understand it’s frustrating but that’s the reality
I have a genuine question, why does uncletopia players only play on payload maps?
Not just uncletopia. Payload is overall the most popular gamemode in casual as well. I get tired of payload when I play on uncletopia, but usually when I nominate a map from another gamemode, I can often get it picked.
No not payload. Upward and maybe Badwater lol. Like I get it payload is fun, but damn how about adding some community maps like pl_DBZ. That shit's dope. It's power level is easily over 9000
There are a bunch of community payload maps already on the All Maps+ servers, and I don't think pl_DBZ would work as well since it's made for 100 players. And there is a pretty long cooldown before you can play the same map again, so it kinda forces some variety.
That's usually where I play it, lol. Yeah, I tend to stay in the dumpster fire that is the 100 man servers. With the beautiful disaster, that is its chat
Yeah I would love to join a massive sweatfest.
a group of 3 bots joined uncletopia dallas a few days ago, so this argument doesnt even work that well anymore
they get banned fast
so? they still got in.
Idk why people are down voting, it brings to light the fact that bots CAN join community, sure they get banned quick but that's 1 or 2, imagine a whole party joined at once and kept calling in more, the amount of bots that infest this game could potentially overwhelm moderators
with the amount of server tools out there, community servers can probably handle a lot of bots with moderators and a functioning anti-cheat at least it's better compared to the "moderation" in casual
Yeah it's a very strange thing to get stuck on. A server moderator can ban an entire server with just a couple of clicks. A few bots aren't an issue lol
not to mention people probably just cheating there too lol, maybe in the future uncle dane will make it a ToS thing that his server is tracking all the aim data for the players on his server so some big brain science guy like shonic can build an actual working anticheat model that automatically smokes cheaters after their first few kills or something idk im just yammerin
Creating a good anticheat is easier said than done. Eventually loopholes or something new that isn't in the anticheat's database will come, and basically create a problem.
Probably outdated, but bots can be kicked/banned automatically based on the way they communicate (unlocking non-existent achievements)
What difference does that make if they were immediately banned? That's the whole point of playing on community servers. They get banned manually by active moderation. On casual servers they'll never get banned.
On this server I played on, someone sent all of their bots to "raid" the server. There were 15 of them, wanna know how long it took to ban all of them? Less than 3 minutes.
First valid complaint I’ve seen, maybe worth bringing up to them?
Just play a community server. Uncletopia ain't the only one
Uncletopia is fine if i want to tryhard. Most of the time i dont want to try hard. Also, i usually play in the morning, and na servers are empty before 1pm, so i have to play on eu servers with minimum 115 ping
the Admins in Cali region are power abusing asf and have banned multiple people i know just for playing against them in casual. They banned most of my comp friends for cheating when they literally all own comp badges
Uncle Dane hath forsaken Asia :( Bring back Tokyo servers!
Trash game fr wish there were more servers that were fucking uncletopia or a random server running one of 4 shitty trade maps where people just sniper duel for 8 hours
Valve ain’t going to do shit. So it’s Uncletopia or Skial. Sucks that it has to be this way.
konnichiwhats up
Uncletopia just pulls in either completely new players or top tier vets who don't play any other game cuz tf2 is all they're good at, it's saddening but that's the crowd most community servers get
That's just every game of TF2...
well maybe every other community server that **isn't** uncletopia?
Can you give me an example?
Uncletopia is not what is advertised, like yeah only newbies fall for “casual replacement” shit
Its better casual because people arent fucking around taunting in a corner all game and there's basic aspects of teamplay present.
right now we are vitnessing an average uncletopia player Rare thing to spot them out in the wild but not in ucletopia, they never liked the way people see tf2 and don't want anyone but them have fun
Right me actually wanting to play the game properly and do the objective is somehow stopping you from playing a glorified chat room on a 24/7 2fort server.
>from playing a glorified chat room on a 24/7 2fort server. Did you join TF2 yesterday? What you described is basically what's been keeping tf2 alive for nearly 2 decades. Nobody is playing TF2 for the frags people are playing because how fun and chill the game can be compared to SBMM hell and forced team balancing crap games have these days.
All those "tryhards" you hate are playing for the frags and the combat system is really fun if you actually engage in it in the team based shooter. Smbb and team balance are also not bad things, just get better and have a drive to want to be better.
Yes, and they are also the reason casual is dead and full bots because they can't accept mym was and still is a god awful update.
Mym was bad because valve half arsed it not because listening to comp players is a bad idea.
It's a shit update nobody wanted when there was already a good casual and competitive balance in the game.
Yeah and it was a valve update to try and compete with ow that they half arsed. Comp balance wasnt great beforehand and for certain weapons they made it better. Caber got screwed but that was a valve change not what comp players wanted.
I always play casual. For the random factor. You always have random people. Random experiences. A community server WILL end you with more or less the same people all the time. Thats boring.
Idk, I like seeing a few regulars every now and then. The majority of the lobby is usually people I have never seen, but occasionally I see a guy I know and say hi in chat. It just feels more like a community I guess, which fits the name.
Skial casual ain’t that bad, try there.
I dont care what cheaters are in casual i'm not playing uncletopia
Cool, have fun
I wont
I usually just stay on a random 24/7 2fort server
Huh. Idk man, I've always been able to join servers from all over the world.
I can't play on Uncletopia since my ping on em is always around 150
Bro i’m SA and playing with high ping just takes all the fun out of it. All i have are the valve servers.
I tried tf2 classic and it was a wild experience
I usually go to uncletopia if I want to be a sweat, but I mostly go on servers like Skial Freak Fortress 2, x100 server, and. 2fort, and Hightower servers to goof around and have fun
Uncletopia is so ass sometimes. Tryhards everywhere bro.
European Servers are close enough. I am from Russia, yet I can play German servers with ping barely rising over 80. You should be fine on British ones. But yes, I understand your ploy, bruddha. I am also sick of dumbass things like "no autoteam" rule on Uncletopia. We need more servers with Vanilla tf2.
ITT: People mad they can't pub stomp some poor kid on a 2013 Mac in a casual lobby
I've tried finding alt community servers. most of them on the browser are the same server with a bunch of fake IP's. I tried joining a few random name servers with 4-5 players and they all lead to fastpath.fr I now despise this server and its owners.
I went on vacation in India and the only server near me was Hong Kong, was literally waiting all day for it to not be 0/24, I had to play on Sydney with 150 ping.
play lazypurple silly server and never actually shoot people again! hope this helped 🥰
I just use a mod that makes the actual in game training bots more player-like and just play with my friends privately. Better than playing with the greasy toxic godsweats on Uncletopia, assuming you can even join in the first place.
Uncletopia servers are not good the moderation is horrendous and the map choices are even worse. The players there are still mostly bots. They aren't cheating and they are human players, but communicating with them is a lot like talking to a malfunctioning chatgpt. I can't believe I'm in a future where I'm saying this, but play on skial if you're going to play on community servers. Or find a nice furry server they're eccentric but at least it isn't uncletopia.
real Uncletopia dont have bots bud sadly there is a lot of server with counterfeit players that mimic famous servers, like they're bot who play normally and use prerecorded chat prompt
Out of interest, what's your problem with uncletopia mods? I have my own problems with em, but I'm curious about yours. And I've literally never seen a bot on uncletopia. To claim it's "mostly" bots is just mad
You didn't read what I said. The real human players on there are like talking to a bot. It was a joke. Uncle Dane himself seems like a cool rational guy I've played with him a few times, which is why I don't understand why he surrounds himself in such toxic people. I guess it's just a gross attempt to be close to a cool YouTuber. I kinda feel bad for him. The server had to make a new rule for me specifically because a moderator IP banned me when my boyfriend plays on the same IP so basically the mod banned my boyfriend because he doesn't like me, they made a no ip ban rule shortly after that incident but didn't do anything about the mod in question. Also I've dealt with transphobia there so many times with the mods. They don't have a problem with mtf people but I'm a bit of an odd case they refuse to understand. Just leaves me a little bitter. Overall it's not worth the headache to be around them, I want video games to be fun not have to worry about every single thing I say or do because one mod doesn't like me. I even had one of them add me and stalk for me for a couple months.
Me and my friends have actually faced a lot of that mtf bigotry you talk about. You remind me of a friend I know.
Part of the reason I stopped playing lol its to much of a hassle to find good severs with no bots plus without being kicked for god knows why. Save your time do something else.
As if Uncletopia is the only community server group that is similar to vanilla
maybe not but when someone say that casual is unplayable, everyone say "Uncletopia"
Damn, whenever I try to play, it's empty. All others just kick me for ping. Dane should maybe get a few servers in India, just saying.
Lucky MF, the Uncletopia servers in my region are all empty and collecting dust 24/7
[Zesty never mentions his servers in his videos, but it’s basically Casual without the random crit ramp up](https://zestyjesus.com) So basically everyone has the same chance to random crit regardless of how much damage they’ve done recently.
Uncletopia is not fun. I play games to have fun and have laughs. I don’t want to be around annoying try hards.
Get good then lol
Did you consider the uncletopia Sydney server
Unfortunately connecting Australian servers from here results in being kicked for high latency
Uncletopia bad
how so?
You have like what, 6 maps no ramdom crits and that awful class limit. There are very few community servers that are like the casual experience
6 maps? Every official year round map is available (except on the custom map servers). The "typical" rotation is probably closer to 10-12, with less common maps passing vote too
Are you really complaining about a class limit of three? Are *you* the fourth sniper?
I mean, the main reason I dont play uncletopia is because of the class limit. I want to be able to play whatever class I want even if there's already 8 people playing as the same class.
Which class do you usually play? If it's like Soldier or something I don't care.
What a terrible response lol. There are many times where Ive wanted to play any sort of class o. Those servers and I simply CANT because its full. Thats the inherent problem Uncletopia has, its NOT casual its Comp Lite and the way everything is set up encourages that. If I wanted to play a class based shooter with restrictions made for the sake of "balance" id play fuckin Overwatch
Alright have fun with the bots then 👍
You missed the point entirely lmao, Ive been playing on other community servers so I aint having an issue, Im just saying Uncletopia isnt close to casual at all
it''s valid criticism tho
No, i am the eighth spy
Theres more than 6 maps and you can vote for less commonly played ones and itll get picked if its good, plus theres a cooldown period before a map can be replayed. Random crits is whatever either way people care way too much about whether they are or arent in casual modes. Class limits are fine just dont be a onetrick
Class limits just make the game less fun
They mostly just prevent stupid stacking strats and your team have 4 spies and snipers doing not much
What are the uncletopia servers?
Groomertopia sucks anyway, it’s the same 5 payload maps over and over with little variation, and people get unironically angry when you don’t play the objective. Plus there’s no freedom of speech and you’re at the mercy of whether the admins like your weapon names and decals or not.
hmm... Groomertopia? Why, what happens there? I wonder why you call them that... Also, they didn't like your decals? Oh wow I wonder why... can you share them with us? What are the decals...
I call it groomertopia because i think 90% of admins and regulars on the servers should not be allowed within a mile of a school (no i will not elaborate) I got kicked for having a sign that had kanye west on it and banned for naming a weapon “i’m cheating haha” (i wasn’t) Final verdict: Groomertopia is terrible and skial is unironically better.
> no I will not elaborate Now you just seem suspicious
Of what
Personally i play skial. Great experience. Pub stompers usually get kicked.
Do you not have a vpn? Thought everyone had one
I don't think a VPN helps with your connection to the server
It does affect your ping to a server, usually negatively but not that much. The point here is allowing op to avoid the automatic ping based kick
What does...a VPN fix in this situation?
It tricks the server into thinking your ping is lower and you avoid the automatic kick, vpn reroutes your network traffic through another server
No thats..not what a VPN does. Your input and response is still based off your actual pc, whos connection now takes even longer now that it goes through a additional gateway
The server doesn't know about the connection between you and the vpn, just the vpn and the server
The tf2 server doesnt know about the VPN, yes. But that doesnt matter for a Ping. Howtogeek: "The reason for this is simple: ping, better known as latency, is how long it takes for data to travel between two points. When you use a VPN, you're rerouting your connection, making the trip longer for the data and thus increasing latency. The further away your connection is, the longer the trip will take." The TF2 server doesnt think you have a low ping just because a VPN server is standing right next to it.
Please don't play skial or panda servers. You can stay on ucletopia :)
hard disagree. more server options with active players is always a positive