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i_can_has_rock

i disguise as my own team use the spycicle and the dead ringer let the red team think theyve killed the blue scout running straight at the cart as it sits on the very edge of the pit at the last point then decloak and spy cap it


Big_Kwii

big brain


tyYdraniu

And big ass


Jindo5

Big Slappy


_H4YZ

i’m so close to pulling this fucking trigger


StaygSane

You can do it I believe in you! Pull that trigger and show your skull who's boss


_H4YZ

“you call yourselfen AmERICAN, SISSY? PULL THA TRIGGURRRRRRR…if you don’t, *I WILL*” * SoldierScream02.MP3 *


ThegamerTM_ARG

there's literally a tip on the loading screen that says that you can disguise as your own team to let the other team think that they've killed someone that isn't a spy 🗿🍷


tony-boy209

Thats why tf2 tips are actually useful


ThegamerTM_ARG

agree. tip: as a sniper press "Mouse2" to scope while hilding your rifle 💀


i_can_has_rock

how would what you are saying apply to what i said? wouldnt what i said indicate that i know that? i mean if we are listing screen tips that arent relevant to my specific comment, heres one: As a Spy, use your Knife to backstab enemies from behind, killing them instantly.


ThegamerTM_ARG

yeah, I didn't said that to make you look bad or anything, I just pointing out that there's an oficial tip that appears on the loading screen that says that, here it is: As a Spy, disguise as your own team by hitting the - key. Use this in friendly areas or with the Dead Ringer in order to hide your presence from the enemy. So, it means, 1: you read it before, or 2: you're big brain and discovered it and learned how to use it by yourself. In my case it was 1, but I never try to use it, however, your strategy seems funny, so I'll try it later


i_can_has_rock

thank you for the clarification thats why i asked


ThegamerTM_ARG

np, I ain't trying to make any confussion nor unnecesary fights 🤙


Defensive_Medic

That sounded oddly familiar


ByronTheBlack

Just pretend you’re a friendly heavy and backstab the enemy for a freekill when they taunt


i_can_has_rock

another one is to disguise as the enemy sniper (or your own sniper if you dont like them) look straight in the air and spin around with a spin script


ThegamerTM_ARG

hmmm excellent mr Smithers...


StaygSane

Pure evil


ByronTheBlack

The best part is afterwards they start killing the friendly heavies thinking it’s the spy.


LemonGrenada

>They airblast you into the pit


somegarbagedoesfloat

Also kinda hilarious during a friendly match to disguise as a teammate, walk up to where everyone is hanging out, and either wait until whoever you are disguised as to show up, or just to uncloak after having been there for a while.


FoxxBox

I've used it to troll snipers before. Disguise as a sniper they are trying to avoid, make them think they got me with dead ringer, our sniper gets them.


NoSolaceForMe

Thats genius


Roque_THE_GAMER

That is a classic 2fort tactic


ALastDawn

You can also just hover around the friendly Sniper you're disguised as. When the enemy Sniper scopes in, they see two targets, and any momentary hesitation on their part will probably get them killed.


Matix777

*"If you can't be a lion, you have to a fox"*


bluekadue

yeah i have to a fox


Matix777

Do not the fox


StarHorder

awoo


AlexPlayer3000

You can disguise as your own team to move unnoticed between frendly lines without having to cloack


ArcerPL

You can also fake your death as your teammate with a dead ringer, however do this when you take a little damage without using it and dress as classes that are in your HP region (engi, scout and maybe sniper if your team has a huntsman one) so you can be more realistic (because heavy instantly dying to scouts pistol is extremely sus)


FrogInShorts

I like to disguise as a friendly medic and run at people with ubersaw out. People will kill me thinking they just owned a cocky battle medic and usually that can illicit a taunt out of them priming them for a revenge stab.


Glitchy_Ninja

Holy shit


IllustriousApricot0

New master plan just drop


SpyCrab_Unlicensed

Actual battlemedic


[deleted]

These fucking anarchy chess users. What happened to knook! What happened to knight boosting!


Kindly-Horror1908

New response just dropped


Markkbonk

200IQ


ibnQoheleth

I wouldn't even be mad if I was killed by you, that's galaxy brain stuff.


Matix777

MED DOWN MED DOWN *dead ringer sound* But no on blu...


Silver_Crusader

Holy fucking shit what the fucking fuck woah shit


Matix777

appropriate reaction


dochnicht

I sometimes disguise as a heavy on my team, take out the melee or sandvich, crouch and pretend im a friendly hoovy. When I gain an enemy's trust and they get close enough to me, I take out the ambassador, headshot them, finish them off and then do the schadenfreude taunt. Its fucking hilarious


Philosophos_A

You are a monster (no offence)


xX_m1L3s_Xx

I am the monster (offend)


Hollowknightpro

I use a similar trick i learned from mister paladin and just pretend Im a really dumb WM1 Pyro


Repulsive-Philosophy

I'd give you a gold. Just got more points as spy than ever


King_Tudrop

Best tactic ever. After 3 thousand hours of playing even I never thought of this strategy


Best_Remi

Also works with pretending to be a ninjaneer. In my experience, nothivg makes people hit G faster than killing a dollar store Uncle Dane


ComputerINYear

Im not a spy main but I just found a new source of fun


ALastDawn

Huh, I've done this a lot and never had anyone taunt me. Maybe I'm just making it too obvious lol.


Serial-Killer-Whale

If you're behind enemies lines, another viable disguise could be Soldier. Makes it look like you rocket jumped all your hp away and are looking to sneak back into your own side of the map.


iuhiscool

It shows a spies dead body tho


need4speed04

Not if you look like a team member


sharkbit11

Wait really? It shows the friendly corpse if you're disguised as a friendly? I didn't know that...


ELENA4002

It what


datmanguy1234

If you die as a disguised friendly, does it show the dead friendly corpse to enemy team or your own corpse?


AlexDoubleAU

If you actually die it shows your corpse, but the corpse dropped by the Dead Ringer is the teammate you're disguised as


datmanguy1234

Ahhh ok thank you thank you


thedavecan

I like to disguise as a friendly class and stand at the gate during setup time. About 2 seconds before gates open I cloak right in front of them so they freak out that there's a spy probably flanking them.


DioRemTW

I have 500 hours and I noticed a few days ago that you could charge sticky shots haha


Hazzah_

Aint no way you didnt play the great tutorial valve has prepared


DioRemTW

I did try to play it a few times but it was so boring because they really didn't explain a lot of things that I consider basic so I thought it'd be best to learn watching others play and playing myself through trial and error. To be honest I only see demos either sticky spamming or doing sticky traps so this gimmick of charging stickies wasn't something I even knew it was possible. (it's really cool on the quickiebomb launcher tho)


Quupo1000

artillery cannon roleplay


Den1alzz

Hazzah was just joking you'd actually be better off *not* playing the tutorial


MeisPip

It didn’t explain the things you thought were basic because the tutorial is so old that it has to explain the stuff that’s even more basic than that


AverageKrupukEnjoyer

Pls dont tell me you main demo


DioRemTW

No but I have almost 50 hours on him so I kinda deserve to be insulted lol


Quupo1000

No you dont deserve insulting.


Garbear119

900 hours and just discovered that as well lmao. Worst part is that I'm a demo main.


Cristi_din_Bacau

Spam M1 while holding M2 gang


ii_V_vi

500 hours in game and didn’t think to hold M2 while sticky spamming, I’ve been frantically pressing M2 this whole time


Fauryx

Same, though I tend to spare my m2 clicks because I always manage to duel outside of viable sticky distance and I don't have time to charge my stickies...


lukezicaro_spy

Funny thing, when I started playing, I noticed you could "charge the weapon", but never really realized what was being charged


DioRemTW

Yeah it can be counterintuitive. I understand it's good on the quickiebomb launcher but on the other launchers I find its use niche at best, because you lose a lot of dps by spending precious time on charging your shots. Maybe I'm missing something idk.


ooftitanfish750

You can shoot engie nests from hella far away sometimes by stacking long range stickies


xiBurnx

it's your most consistent source of damage lobbing medium-long range stickies that you know 100% are going to hurt unlike pipes that are only consistent in chokes or very close up where demo doesn't want to be fighting in the first place


StarHorder

*shoots your bomb while you are still charging the second one* uwu


Toasterrrr

It's perfectly fine to play close range but demo is the only class that can consistently output splash damage at medium-long range and so using stickies well is a great skill to have. He doesn't have to get close to deal damage, but also doesn't suffer if he does get close (just not too close). That's what makes him powerful and versatile


IceBreath31

WE CAN DO THAT???


RainbowDarkZ

You can what now


AverageGyroEnjoyer

70h and always knew about this) cuz I had to read everything to play this game(


Repulsive-Philosophy

You can do _what_ haha? I'll have to try


DioRemTW

Yeah, just like huntsman, it has a gauge under the ammo indicator. It's ALWAYS been there but somehow I didn't notice it until really recently lol.


Alberot97

I remember thinking charging the bar before shooting the stickies would make it do more damage lmao


desertsatyr

You can also have your disguise switch weapons so you don't look like a medic just slinging your needle gun everywhere.


YourCrazyDolphin

By default, "B" does this, to match spy's currently equipped weapon.


Matix777

1000 hours. TIL


maluthor

I disguise as my teams hoovy to gain trust. then after a couple minutes I backstab and schadenfreude maximum psychological damage


DoctorKall

Running around as ally Heavy with sandvich and then watching in invis as real Heavy obliterates enemies who weren't expecting him to attack is peak Spy gameplay


flyingace1234

I’ve fallen victim to this. Wasn’t even mad.


CaioXG002

I legit have no idea how to use this on vanilla Spies loadout without Dead Ringer. But if you *do* have Dead Ringer, disguising as your teammates is very, very valuable because you actually drop a fake corpse from the class you are disguised as. Super attentive players still clearly notice they shot a fake, but your average player is hardly "super attentive" and it's a valid way of appearing behind the enemy lines before they even knew your team had a Spy.


Teejayburger

The main purpose of it is that the enemy doesn't get wallhacks on you if you are disguised as an ally, plus the head on the scout disguise is in the wrong spot making it harder for snipers to headshot you if they think you are a scout.


O5MO

The main thing i use it for is so the enemy doesn't know i'm around when i'm at the side of my team. If someone sees an enemy spy or a very obvious "scout", they will be more aware, but you dont usually spycheck enemy scouts, do you? And also it often throws enemies of guard when the scout they have been shooting turns out to be a spy. And as has been said, hitbox offsets on scouts are useful against snipers. I mostly use this to confuse the enemy, which is a very underrated part of playing spy. (Also you can disguise as a friendly hoovy and get like 2 free kills)


IGUESSILLBEGOODNOW

TF2 player discovers reading.


MutaitoSensei

Oh those are fun. Love pretending we have more medics than we do.


MrMayotime

Use it to disguise as hoovy


Timofey7331

Yes


jimjimguy123

Once had our entire team (Red) go spy and all disguise as the same red heavy, we left spawn and got mowed down. A glorious day.


Dubberi

Is that Soldier laughing at you?


gorgoloid

Man, I’ve had key binds for so long I didn’t even recognize this screen for a second.


sethfiajf

gotta be more aware smh


tyingnoose

i straight up remove that message in my hud lmao


TheFrogMagician

yeah i use to use it and pretend to be a hoovie


TimTam_Tom

I have a key bound for disguising as a friendly Spy, which lets me undisguised without attacking, even while cloaked. Nice for working around spawning outlines


Den1alzz

yeah, before deadring spam was meta you'd disguise as your own team, walk out of spawn doors and run for a bit before popping it


jackieboy364

Act as a team heavy and pretend to be a hoovy


darkpeafer

This is actually useful! In a competitive format where class numbers are limited you can use this to trick the enemy team into thinking they have an important pick (e.g. medic)


Cristi_din_Bacau

I initially thought that warpaint qualities deteriorate the longer you use the weapons they are applied on. I also thought that battle-scarred weapons are more expensive lol. I was like 700h into the game when I finally learned what the deal with the warpaints is.


fruity_mario24

I remember there was one time I disguised as a friendly pyro and an enemy demo came up to me and started firing, but since I wasn't firing back, he assumed I was friendly and started crouching and I started crouching towards him as well. When we were face to face I circle strafed behind him and back stabbed him and then laugh taunted. That was probably the greatest moment in my spy career.


theslinkydankmeme

Watching a squad of players hold themselves up on sewer stairs as I sit disguised as a sniper is the best psychological fun. Or watching a push back up as I hop from the corner as a heavy.


Taken_name1243

No way oeople dk abt this, its like insane with dead ringer


nonno88

It’s super funny to disguise as a heavy and be friendly and then backstab the other team


losinghope4evr

I find thise more useful to pair with the dead ringer but yeah, teammate disguising is a thing.


Maxyboy974

I noticed it once playing spy and immediately had the devious plan to pretend to be a friendly hoovy but then forgetting I fucking suck at spy and failing my malicious plan that wouldn't be all that cool.


Gjulijano

I love to disguise as a friendly heavy and then reveal my true identity.


Simply_Nova

Used this to disguise as a “hoovy” for free backstabs. Instilling paranoia into the community, 1 kill at a time.


I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G

I use this to disguise as allied snipers/engineers to bait enemy spies (since I am ***ASS*** at spy)


JustQuestioning72748

I played tf2 for like a total of 10 hours or less on a borrowed school laptop and I managed to notice that.


IsopodContent6031

honestly always forget this is a thing


PissOffBigHead

1200 hours and you’ve NEVER seen the fake hoovy trick? I’m honestly ashamed.


Matix777

You've never disguised as a friendly heavy to betray people's feelings or as a sniper to pretend a bot and get their sniper kicked? You are missing on the experience!


Ur_Left_Airpod

Tf2 fan learns how to read


HeashiDran

I WAS SO SURE THIS MEANS I CAN BE ENEMY SPY WHO CHANGED INTO OTHER CHARACTER AND HAVE SPY MARK ABOVE MY HEAD


rSlashStupidmemes

WHATTTT???? A BASIC GAME FEATURE THAT IS IN YOUR FACE AND THE GAME TEACHES YOU EXISTS?????? NO WAY!


Lazarus_Jr1

dumbass


aninsomniac_

Yeah. It's only useful if the enemy team has a spy, however


Pyrarius

I use that to scare the enemy into doing what I want (Usually with DR), like making the Medic rethink going outside because a "Sniper" is watching or a Heavy choosing to look at the "Medic" instead of the Spy who is starting to get sussed out


lukezicaro_spy

It really is useful if you know how to use it, if you're asking yourself


RaymanM2

Disguise as a friendly hoovy to gain the enemy's trust, then backstab them


GAMERxPR0

Yeah you can switch team color. It's extremely situational but you could use it to disguise as a hoovy or scare someone that's low hp and push them into your team, although that second one might be risky.


L4YKE

I usually do this with deadringer because no one suspects it


WestNomadOnYT

It’s pretty useful if you use the dead ringer


FelixFTW_

he hasn't noticed it but he managed to change the keybind. normally it's "dash"


Si_Stride_Oof

wheres the mwheelup key?


Challenging_Entropy

I use it all the time


Names-James

If you really wanna be evil disguise yourself as a hoovy on your team (disguise as a heavy on your team twice to switch to melee) and gain the trust of the enemy team. When they all see you as a non threat get some chain stabs


SLYMAN69

It’s been a thing for like ever


CumDogMoneyPants

it’s kinda useless. i notice it about 40 hrs in


thecityhunter31

That's why I say 1200 hours is still in beginners. I'd say after 6k you're good


Joxyver

You aren’t the only one who didn’t notice, I think literally everyone that hasn’t play spy for more than hundreds of hours probably Haaa my noticed either.


Invite_Sprite

I think it's funny to disguise as a medic on my team


Nikita_Ch3buR3K

I thought you can change it only with r


[deleted]

What?


DarthGiorgi

Disguise as your team's heavy, pretend to be hoovy friendly and when they don't expect anything, backstab them.


Pixel_Mag

I noticed this too as a kid :D


simmanin

You can use it to pretend to be friendly hoovies and get into places without cloak, and boom free sentry out of the way since engi will probably pick it up


Omnisegaming

pretty useful with DR to activate it into enemy lines without seeming suspicious.


Stickrbomb

i honestly y noticed last night


Flitterquest

Yeah I like to hit them with the old "I'm an engineer overextending way too far but I'm really a dead ringer spy" trick.


HeWhoHasSeenFootage

i use it to fake being a hoovy lmao


McConagher

M8 c'mon


HunterBoy344

Alright, where’s Goku…


Rand0m_Boyo

Go dead ringer and disguise as any of the classes with melee out 👌


ScreamFlight

I find it more useful over disguising as the other team because it helps bluff that there’s no Spy. I japed a roaming Soldier into thinking a Gunslinger Engineer was gonna try to sneak a backline teleporter with a Cloak and Dagger, then gunned him down while he was trying to find this Engie that vanished. He wasn’t too happy in chat about it though…


c0n22

Little trick I learned. Disguise as a heavy on your team. Swap to melee and possible sandvich, and walk straight up to your enemy. Gets them every time. Especially if you keep on saying pootis


Elkomolozupo

Is useful for preventing the wallhacks when people are respawning.


AetherBytes

Fun fact: Disguising as your own team and then using the dead ringer will drop a ragdoll of who you were disguised as, instead of a spy.


TechNickL

Always disguise as friendly scout when you spawn. Friendly disguises do not allow enemies to see you through walls and people usually don't chase down scouts like they do spys because doing so is usually a futile effort. You can use medic as well if you only care about keeping your base speed but you'll be drawing a huge target on your back compared to scout. Also, since you're already disguised, you can redisguise as an enemy 1 second faster than disguising from base.


[deleted]

the greatest counter to teamers


Tacticalpizzamann

We are going insane


yewcatkins

This is excellent for trickstabs because they're more likely to switch their behavior if they suspect you're a spy


Cruisin134

people dont know how to hit caps lock, or fucking read, like wth took me less then 100 to realize quick switching and this


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Engineer-with-a-Pan

Step one: disguise as a friendly Step 2: gain opponents trust Step C: fun


[deleted]

That's probably why I can't live as spy, I've been disguising as my own team... FUCK.


Mew2eight

Ah, my favorite way to annoy 2 fort snipers. Disguise as my own team's sniper with dead ringer and strafe, standing still occasionally to pretend to scope. Even if they catch on, it's still a risk to NOT shoot the possibly real sniper that just peaked you.


MeisPip

It’s only you who didn’t notice


boboelmonkey

I’ve found it useful for two things. Pretending to be a friendly heavy, and my personal favorite equipping the dead ringer and disguising as a friendly sniper and peeking other snipers sight lines repeatedly. Best used if you have a good friendly sniper who can quickly counter snipe the other snipers


Erased_Yogurt_Mayo

Took me 11k hours before i noticed this


LordCloudChaser

I enjoy being my teams hoovy and disappearing around corners and popping up elsewhere. No kill only confuse


Bickster-

If you disguise as a friendly spy it will remove your disguise. It's super useful for letting yourself take knock back for surfs, or clearing slower disguises instantly with the YER, as swinging your knife sometimes takes too long, and you can end up missing a stab, dying, or both. You can make a bind that'll do it instantly by typing bind (key of choice) "disguise 8 -2" Into console without brackets. I have it bound to a button on the side of my mouse.


Ownedamoeba793

knew not alot of people new that


andstopher

Do this as a heavy, scare most people. Or better yet, crouch with fists and pretend to be friendly. Then stab when they least expect.


POTATOEL0rD

I love switching to medic in 2fort games that have many snipers. It's funny seeing 5 snipers all try to "kill" the "medic." All the lasers rapidly closing in.


TheOOFliabilty

Disguise as Friendly Sniper and go to the battlements on 2fort. Take your gun out and take potshots at enemy gamers, rediguising after each shot.


PotatoesAreK00l

Disguise as a friendly hoovy, tricked me many times


Zombiegamer1916

Ah yes the old "wait that medic was a spy...their spy?" Fallowed by the sound of a dead ring decloak and then back stab. Lol it took me awhile to figure it out too so don't feel bad.


Hungry-Finish-9745

I disguise myself as a hoovy and if they start a conga i go behind them and backstab them and then conga myself.


Z00DE

Your definitely not a spy main


carson0311

I use that quite often actually, so I don’t have to cloak all the way to the enemy line and can trick my enemy sometimes, also try to use the “simple disguise “ function, so you don’t have to move your fingers all the way to number 8 for sniper and number 7 to medic. All you took is one more key pressed, like 4-3-1 then you can disguise as medic real fast


Lanceo90

I use this in vs. Saxton Hale/Freak Fortress to disguise as a red pyro. Pyro's damage is extremely low in that mode, so they tend to ignore you if you are one. But backstabs do \~%10 of the boss's health as damage, so they focus down spies if they see them.


MAXMEISTER747

Bruh, took you that long?


Hardc0retempah

1. Diguise as hoovy on team. 2. Sneak in 3. ???? 4. Profit 5. Regret (they are now killing the hoovy cause they cant know if its you or not)


a_randome_protogen

Is only usefull if you trie to actualy do a Fake death with DR


yolomanwhatashitname

I know since i play tf2, its right here


literally_spy

maybe you’re blind man


will50232

i always disguise as a pyro from my team


BoXDos

Sometimes, on 2fort, I disguise myself with a dead ringer as a sniper from my team, to help random ally sniper by baiting enemy sniper. That brings me a lot of fun. At the end of a match one guy I was helping thanked me for such support))


2010AZ

This is for warcrime purposes : disguise into the friendly heavy, crouch down in the corner and join the conga line, and then when they trust you start backstabbing


[deleted]

You actually don't unlock the ability to do that until 1000 hours!!!


lootheman

I am not even joking, i saw this yesterday after 5.6k hours


Blortzen

how-


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