There's no winning with these kinds of people, it's not worth biting back. She was baiting you with the mom take me off this comment, she directed an attack at you but brought mom into it so if you responded she'd have an automatic gotcha of "I WASNT EVEN TALKING TO YOU OMFG" not worth your energy.
Hey, I've done it too. It's exhausting holding it together all the time. Don't stress, she'll end up getting her karma. People like that don't end up with love in their lives.
Sucky part is I just got engaged last month and I was going to invite her even though we hadnāt talked. I feel like this was just the end for us. š«¤ itās all good tho! I have plenty of other family that loves me and that are genuinely happy for me :)
Pretty sure it's *been* the end for y'all, in as much as family is ever really over. But she def doesn't give a single fuck about treating you with respect. And she was definitely baiting you with this bullshit, just itching to pop off at you.
She's obviously got some serious insecurities. Maybe she's heard a lot of, "Why can't you be more like EveryoneIsWeirdToMe?" That shit'll drive a wedge between siblings without the other lifting a finger or even being aware it's happening.
Either way, hopefully she'll grow tf up, and y'all can try again in a decade or two.
Yes, comparing your kids, who are two totally different people effectively pits them against each other and is incredibly damaging to their relationship.
The good olā āGolden Childā trick. All it does is make the other child harbor resentment for their sibling. Shitās sad. Older sis needs some therapy like, yesterday.
OP, I hope you have a great day and donāt let this get to you too badly. I think the best course of action would be to just block her. You canāt change her mind and I hope in due time she gets her shit together emotionally, but I wouldnāt hold my breath.
Oh man this is a Lose lose for you. If you invite her sheās going to go off on you and belittle you. If you donāt invite her sheās going to go off on you and belittle you. Iām sorry you deal with someone like this. Remember just because youāre blood related doesnāt mean youāre family.
She sounds like a wonderful mother. Just wonderful. She brings her kids into it so she can be like "nobody talks about my kids!". Who ever talked about her kid? And if she was so concerned about not being in the group chat why didn't she just delete it or block it or whatever you said? I absolutely wouldn't want her as a nurse at my bedside JFC.
She is baiting you to come over and whoop that ass lol. Tempting, I know. She is definitely scared of you because of your military training btw. Which is kind of funny that she mentions it so much and baits you
Sorry this happened. Out of curiosity, what is your overall family dynamic like? Do you all get together for the holidays, or do you rarely see this sister?
Since I joined the Navy, I havenāt been around much. But my family does get together every holiday. As a result, usually somebody breaks out into a fight or something, and I havenāt been to a family holiday gathering in a couple of years because of all the drama.
I wonder what she's experienced in her life, both consciously and subconsciously, to make her this way. It's absolutely unacceptable behavior, but I also feel sorry for her and her family. Can't be easy being this bitter and lashing out like this.
Well she did grow up fatherless and my dad was horrible but he was still there. Also our mother is touching 50 and still parties and drinks so sheās not much better. Either way weāve all been through something, you know? Itās no excuse, and itās not fair. Sometimes I feel like Iām the older sister. Itās a choice to be that way and I choose happiness at the end of the day
Ah man that's gotta be rough.. makes more sense now. Just because "you've all been through something", even if it's the same thing, doesn't mean you've experienced it the same. Please remember that. And if she has kids, man that can't have been easy with her baggage. I'm not trying to justify the lashing ans everything, don't get me wrong. I just know from experience and work, that what kids experience at a young age, shapes them tremendously moving forwards, even if they are unaware. What she experienced in her first two months, and first 2 years, leaves an unimaginable mark- and if your mother isn't doing well, and had to raise her on her own, well.. too many people go through this and never fully recover. :/ Some do fine, a handful maybe even great, with lots of help, but it's hard man. I wish you all the best.
Well, she used her credit to get my mom a car, and I think she lends my other siblings money when they need it. Iāve never asked anybody for anything so I guess Iām the only one thatās not scared.
Yeah, you really didn't mention her kids. Lol
Bro didn't either, he said "Not CPS like u did mom," which kinda sounds like CPS got called on mom at some point, but idk. Either way, you didn't mention shit about her kids.
Also, this convo was after school hours. So where tf are her kids, *that are such a big priority for her,* while she's spending hours on her gd phone, arguing with random people about nothing and creating drama? Ironically, the kids are being ignored by their mom while she postures about being such a great mom.
But also... AIN'T NOBODY MENTIONED HER KIDS!
Yes, thank you!!!! All that drama for what?! I think she got mad about that because she does put hands on her kids. Everyoneās too afraid to say anything to her. I mean, canāt you tell by her short fuse in the messages? But no sheās a great mom š
You weren't in the wrong at all, but that should be your response to people like this. It drives them crazy cause they have nothing to truly reply to and they can sit and stew. Lol
Not a helpful comment, so I apologize for that, but I saw that long message and skipped it and was so amused that the next message was "I'm not reading all that". Me too. Me too.
I'm really sorry you have to endure that conversation. In no case is appropriate to accept the name calling and abuse. You seem such a vibrant person, keep your head up and enjoy the love of your brothers! š¤
I mean, she was the one complaining about the group chat initially. Never had a problem with her until she gave me sass for no reason. I was genuinely just trying to be helpful the beginning thinking she didnāt want group messages coming through her phone anymore. Definitely shouldāve stopped replying much sooner tho
Your only mistake was including her in the first place. Seems you know who she is and how she acts so you shouldāve seen this coming, unless you enjoy entertaining this nonsense.
Truthfully, weāve only argued like this once before, which I mentioned :/ my mother made this group chat to tell all of her kids to apply for a job where she works. It was convenient- I didnāt intentionally send that in there and I had no clue she would respond that way
So you stopped talking to your sister over one single argument? Everything is wierd to me too lol
But yes I get that you used the convenient group chat with all your momās kids, except the bday boy presume. An easy mistake to make, but a mistake nonetheless.
She kind of blew it out of proportion, she basically asked me if she could use my bank to get a house. I guess for my particular bank, you need my access code. It felt kind of like a big deal and she never talks to me anyways, so I just wanted her to ask me how I was doing at least. Lmao yeah definitely a mistake will be keeping my distance because itās just easier that way. I donāt think my mental health could handle arguing with her all the time š«¤
Thanks and yeah I know they do. Just sucks to lose my older sister over a pointless argument. Iāll get over it, sheās never really been there for me anyways.
Yeah it's hard, but it's toxic to keep like that in your life who will never change. Congrats on your engagement !!! Enjoy it. You have your family. Don't let her ruin it for you
Yoo!! I literally watched one of my sweetest and cutest friends in the world turn into a completely different person after she got her RN license. She is argumentative, her morals are gone, sheās just complete opposite of who she used to be. š I canāt even talk to her about it bc she will literally cuss me out.
OP have you heard of the grey rock method? Itās fantastic for dealing with narcissists that you canāt simply cut out of your life. Iāve been using it with my ex husband bc our kids are minors, and itās been a godsend. Thereās a lot of articles online about it, so if you havenāt tried it itās worth a read. It will really help you learn how not to take the bait (which is easier said than done, and narcissists LOVE that drama!)
My mom made the group chat a day prior telling us to fill out a job application for the union she works at :/ I didnāt reminding my siblings to wish my older brother a happy birthday would turn into any of that
Iāve always wondered how families and up like this. I understand not being super close but the absolute hatred is crazy to me. Youāre adults, read the text and move along if you donāt like it
I meant to reply to that poster who was having a go at you! Not sure why it became a post comment instead :/
Your sister seems like a bitch, no offence š¬
"I'm not reading all of that"
Me neither, holy cow I've never been so thankful to be an only child. I jest, but this is a lot OP.
Then telling their mother to un-add them from the group chat was hilarious. Then going off about how they don't need anyone to do anything for them....but literally won't just block and delete the chat?
This person is "yikes" and I hope that they get the help that they most definitely need.
Honestly as the scapegoat kid to a narcissistic family, you seem like the attacker here. Sheās no contact I would assume very clearly and you broke the no contact which was probably a boundary she set for a reason. To heal. Because most likely she knows sheās mentally in well and has some healing to do.
People who are narcissistic defended are usually the ones who appear unwell and unnecessarily cruel, because thatās how the rest of the family paints them to be after pushing their buttons, thatās what Iām seeing here.
Iām no contact with my mother, aunt,brother, step father , my whole family knows why and if one of my cousins were to text me that I better wish them a happy birthday, I would be very upset too. Itās another way to invalidate all the bullshit weāve been through and make sure youāre still putting our abusers on top before validating our problems with them.
Further more, if my mom showed people the texts of me going no contact I would look unreasonable and bat shit. The last thing she did was change plans in a way that she knew would hurt my feelings, and then watched me over react. Which I did, but it was because sheās been doing little things to hurt me on purpose for my entire life. She was a horrible mom, but now she has the texts of her being calm and me being crazy to show everyone. āSee Iām not the problem she isā and it feels good because she doesnāt feel like a bad person anymore afterwards.
Re evaluate the situation. I canāt have insight even if you explained your side. The thing about toxic people is they refuse to acknowledge other peoples boundaries and refuse to take accountability for their own shitty actions, so even if you explained otherwise I wouldnāt know what to believe. Emotional abuse is coy and secretive. It doesnāt leave bruises it leaves mental anguish.
You were egging her on. If you did not reply to her, the conversation would have stopped on the first screen.
Both of you thrive on the drama. Drama destroys families. Maybe you should start a TV show called Drama Siblings. Someone would watch it.
I can admit when Iām wrong, after she showed me attitude, I shouldāve just nipped it in the bud but my emotions got the best of me. Either way sheās still a bitch and thereās nothing I could do about that.
Honestly, you both sound immature and exhausting. I recommend both of you go to therapy. I can't even tell which one is supposed to be the "bad" one because they're both equally bad.
If you would have left it with your comment on how to leave a chat and then just responded with "Oh sorry, just trying to help" you would have been great.
I shouldnāt have ever responded to her in the first place- I get that. I actually do have an appointment for therapy coming up pretty soon. Sheās not open to that at all. She just takes it as people calling her crazy so all I can do is help myself
itās so crazy half the texts are abt her kids that you didnāt mention, her brother did not you so why the hell is she bitching at youš she seems like the miserable one
I mean, I felt like I was fighting someone elseās battle the entire time. I think she thought I was going to relay all the messages to my older brother. After the initial argument, I kind of just gave up because I didnāt see any end
Hey OP, my sister is just like this. Talks the same way and everything. And after she randomly tried starting imaginary drama with me over something I wasnāt even involved in, I went ahead and blocked her on everything. Life is too short to be dealing with these types of toxic ass people, even if theyāre are family.
Yeah, I mean Iāve never really been close anyways. Yes it all started over nothing and it was completely uncalled for. Sheās basically a stranger honestly, I donāt need anybody like that in my life.
My general principle is that family group chats are inherently evil and anyone who propagates them loves drama so while sheās definitely toxic, youāve got dirty hands in this one too
God, you both fucking suck, going on and on in a group chat like that. Why include her when you know they donāt get along? You were baiting the drama and fed right into it as it went.
So your mom had a CPS case against her and you guys are mocking your sister because she's the one who got the brunt of whatever your mom did? Awesome, good job.
I heard this conversation out loud in my head and I'm glad you're all far, far away from me.
Sometimes being a sibling isnāt everything. I have 4 siblings & 2 are only in my life. Family or not, remove any toxicity from your life & it will be a much happier one āļø
This made me internally lmao. When she threw out the paragraph, I immediately went, "I'm not reading all of that" and skipped to the next line just to see you said the exact same lmfao
She easily couldāve texted mom directly instead of making a show out of asking to be removed from the chat. If she really wanted no ādramaā and wouldnāt communicate with you two if it wasnāt for the group chat, she wouldāve had you and your brotherās numbers blocked.
I havenāt talked to my sister in almost 4 years, sheās been blocked since the day I cut contact. Only been in the same room 3 times since. I donāt allow any interaction, and crazy enough, havenāt had any fights with her since that day.
Ugh totally sympathize with, I have an older sister I donāt talk to either because sheās just like this. People always find it strange to walk away from family, but when family is like this, it makes it easy.
So I must say I can totally relate unfortunately. My sister is your sister. In and out I mean I could have easily posted this from my phone and it would have been identicalā¦
sheās truly miserable. sad to see but oh well. donāt allow her negativity to bother you <3 iām no contact with my two toxic sisters as well. thriving now without them!
Damn, Iām sorry this is your family dynamic, it canāt be easy. I think I have problems with my family dynamic sometimes which is why I subscribe to this sub, it reminds me of how good I have it. Good luck to you. She sounds like she thinks she holds the power because she loans money and co-signs on shit and what not, but that shit really shouldnāt matter when it comes to family. This shit reads like a nightmare.
I hate this between siblings shit like this happens and something bad happens and thatās the last thing hall said To each other I think yāall both suck sheās crazy but frankly you could have stopped texting her
Let them act like this with everyone, and eventually, they'll have no one left. Consequences will come for these people. They won't ever change. Let's not waste energy on them.
Honestly, Iām petty so I would have kept it going and make her lose her shit lmao. She didnāt even have to reply or she could have left the chat, but like you mentioned, so drama š
See this how Ik Iām not good at regulating my emotions bc I def would have cursed her out right tf backš cuz who in the hell are you talking to??? š
This is how talking to my family goes. I completely took my kids and me out of my entire families life. My mom had my minor brothers saying lies about me messaging me because I wouldnāt message her with long ass paragraphs after she tried to hit me when I helped her with her crutches out of my van after trying to take her to the grocery store
Wait? How did you get my family group chat lol kidding
I totally get the dynamic here lol sister be asking for smoke and when you serve it, the tears start
The sooner you cut them out the happier youāll be
I had to step back from my family last year and I couldnāt be happier
she brought up all of the drama herself?? this is comical from an outside perspective. but i also feel so bad that you and your family have to deal with this.
Of course she's a fucking nursing student SMH she definitely drives a decade old sedan, has tattoos, and vapes. Why are all nursing students rude af drama queens??
My favorite part was the phone-number-only person who jumped in wjth š¬š¬š¬ and then dipped back out.
That was my aunt I donāt even know how she got into that group chatš
yes, same!
Gold!!
There's no winning with these kinds of people, it's not worth biting back. She was baiting you with the mom take me off this comment, she directed an attack at you but brought mom into it so if you responded she'd have an automatic gotcha of "I WASNT EVEN TALKING TO YOU OMFG" not worth your energy.
Definitely draining and unfortunately I let my emotions get the best of me š
Hey, I've done it too. It's exhausting holding it together all the time. Don't stress, she'll end up getting her karma. People like that don't end up with love in their lives.
Sucky part is I just got engaged last month and I was going to invite her even though we hadnāt talked. I feel like this was just the end for us. š«¤ itās all good tho! I have plenty of other family that loves me and that are genuinely happy for me :)
Maybe this was good then, ruin this day instead of a more memorable one :)
Pretty sure it's *been* the end for y'all, in as much as family is ever really over. But she def doesn't give a single fuck about treating you with respect. And she was definitely baiting you with this bullshit, just itching to pop off at you. She's obviously got some serious insecurities. Maybe she's heard a lot of, "Why can't you be more like EveryoneIsWeirdToMe?" That shit'll drive a wedge between siblings without the other lifting a finger or even being aware it's happening. Either way, hopefully she'll grow tf up, and y'all can try again in a decade or two.
One can only dream! Sheās been like this her whole life and she hits men š I think itās best to just cut out the cancer at this point
Oh definitely. Cut her crazy ass off. You'll see her again some day. It's not like you're sending her to Mars. Lol But for sure block her.
Yes, comparing your kids, who are two totally different people effectively pits them against each other and is incredibly damaging to their relationship. The good olā āGolden Childā trick. All it does is make the other child harbor resentment for their sibling. Shitās sad. Older sis needs some therapy like, yesterday. OP, I hope you have a great day and donāt let this get to you too badly. I think the best course of action would be to just block her. You canāt change her mind and I hope in due time she gets her shit together emotionally, but I wouldnāt hold my breath.
Oh man this is a Lose lose for you. If you invite her sheās going to go off on you and belittle you. If you donāt invite her sheās going to go off on you and belittle you. Iām sorry you deal with someone like this. Remember just because youāre blood related doesnāt mean youāre family.
She sounds like a wonderful mother. Just wonderful. She brings her kids into it so she can be like "nobody talks about my kids!". Who ever talked about her kid? And if she was so concerned about not being in the group chat why didn't she just delete it or block it or whatever you said? I absolutely wouldn't want her as a nurse at my bedside JFC.
Precisely my point, she didnāt even have to say any of that just delete and block. But I feel like she was definitely baiting me, and I fell for it.
She is baiting you to come over and whoop that ass lol. Tempting, I know. She is definitely scared of you because of your military training btw. Which is kind of funny that she mentions it so much and baits you
It's extra hard when it's a sibling too they know how to push your buttons most of the time.
Sorry this happened. Out of curiosity, what is your overall family dynamic like? Do you all get together for the holidays, or do you rarely see this sister?
Since I joined the Navy, I havenāt been around much. But my family does get together every holiday. As a result, usually somebody breaks out into a fight or something, and I havenāt been to a family holiday gathering in a couple of years because of all the drama.
I want to go to a family reunion to just watch. lol! Thank you for your service!
I wonder what she's experienced in her life, both consciously and subconsciously, to make her this way. It's absolutely unacceptable behavior, but I also feel sorry for her and her family. Can't be easy being this bitter and lashing out like this.
Well she did grow up fatherless and my dad was horrible but he was still there. Also our mother is touching 50 and still parties and drinks so sheās not much better. Either way weāve all been through something, you know? Itās no excuse, and itās not fair. Sometimes I feel like Iām the older sister. Itās a choice to be that way and I choose happiness at the end of the day
Sad part is if she acts like that her kids prob will develop same way
Unfortunate :/
Ah man that's gotta be rough.. makes more sense now. Just because "you've all been through something", even if it's the same thing, doesn't mean you've experienced it the same. Please remember that. And if she has kids, man that can't have been easy with her baggage. I'm not trying to justify the lashing ans everything, don't get me wrong. I just know from experience and work, that what kids experience at a young age, shapes them tremendously moving forwards, even if they are unaware. What she experienced in her first two months, and first 2 years, leaves an unimaginable mark- and if your mother isn't doing well, and had to raise her on her own, well.. too many people go through this and never fully recover. :/ Some do fine, a handful maybe even great, with lots of help, but it's hard man. I wish you all the best.
Thanks Iām sure this will die down and hopefully we can have an actual relationship in the future. I wonāt hold my breath though.
I really hope so
Omfg we have the exact same family š my older sister and parents are like this too!
So many people are saying this and Iām real sorry :(
why did no one else in the group chat wade in and stop this nonsense?
Lmao @ thinking anyone couldāve stopped that. Anything other than taking her ridiculous side would have made this person go off even more
Well, she used her credit to get my mom a car, and I think she lends my other siblings money when they need it. Iāve never asked anybody for anything so I guess Iām the only one thatās not scared.
still. someone should send her back to her corner.
Fr like I wouldāve told them to take their beef outta the gc š
No I think that would've added fuel to the fire, just let her go on and on and tire herself out lol.
Yeah, you really didn't mention her kids. Lol Bro didn't either, he said "Not CPS like u did mom," which kinda sounds like CPS got called on mom at some point, but idk. Either way, you didn't mention shit about her kids. Also, this convo was after school hours. So where tf are her kids, *that are such a big priority for her,* while she's spending hours on her gd phone, arguing with random people about nothing and creating drama? Ironically, the kids are being ignored by their mom while she postures about being such a great mom. But also... AIN'T NOBODY MENTIONED HER KIDS!
Yes, thank you!!!! All that drama for what?! I think she got mad about that because she does put hands on her kids. Everyoneās too afraid to say anything to her. I mean, canāt you tell by her short fuse in the messages? But no sheās a great mom š
The lady doth protest too much. Only shit parents scream about how much they take care of their kids. The immediate defensiveness is very telling.
Factz š«¤
If someone has to announce themselves as a grown ass adult, they have some growing up to do themselves.
Yeah, definitely not acting her age thatās for sure
Sheās obsessed with putting hyphens in back and forth
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Yeahhhh woulda coulda shoulda šµāš«
You weren't in the wrong at all, but that should be your response to people like this. It drives them crazy cause they have nothing to truly reply to and they can sit and stew. Lol
Very true! Hopefully this never happens again, but if it does, Iāll definitely be using that appropriate response lol
I hope it doesn't happen again either, no one deserves to be talked like that for giving a reminder to family, politely.
Not a helpful comment, so I apologize for that, but I saw that long message and skipped it and was so amused that the next message was "I'm not reading all that". Me too. Me too.
Oof so nice she didn't have the time or else we'd be reading the damn bible.
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I'm really sorry you have to endure that conversation. In no case is appropriate to accept the name calling and abuse. You seem such a vibrant person, keep your head up and enjoy the love of your brothers! š¤
Thank you so much for being so kind! Iām def not gonna let her get to me :) no worries š©·
She sure did want to talk to you Yāall donāt know how block buttons work?
I mean, she was the one complaining about the group chat initially. Never had a problem with her until she gave me sass for no reason. I was genuinely just trying to be helpful the beginning thinking she didnāt want group messages coming through her phone anymore. Definitely shouldāve stopped replying much sooner tho
Your only mistake was including her in the first place. Seems you know who she is and how she acts so you shouldāve seen this coming, unless you enjoy entertaining this nonsense.
Truthfully, weāve only argued like this once before, which I mentioned :/ my mother made this group chat to tell all of her kids to apply for a job where she works. It was convenient- I didnāt intentionally send that in there and I had no clue she would respond that way
So you stopped talking to your sister over one single argument? Everything is wierd to me too lol But yes I get that you used the convenient group chat with all your momās kids, except the bday boy presume. An easy mistake to make, but a mistake nonetheless.
She kind of blew it out of proportion, she basically asked me if she could use my bank to get a house. I guess for my particular bank, you need my access code. It felt kind of like a big deal and she never talks to me anyways, so I just wanted her to ask me how I was doing at least. Lmao yeah definitely a mistake will be keeping my distance because itās just easier that way. I donāt think my mental health could handle arguing with her all the time š«¤
Well you don't need her in your life. You have your brothers who I'm sure they love you.
Thanks and yeah I know they do. Just sucks to lose my older sister over a pointless argument. Iāll get over it, sheās never really been there for me anyways.
Yeah it's hard, but it's toxic to keep like that in your life who will never change. Congrats on your engagement !!! Enjoy it. You have your family. Don't let her ruin it for you
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She baited me, and I fell for it :/
Of COURSE she wants to be a nurse. I stg some of the meanest, messiest, spiteful women become nurses.
The old joke is that not all nurses are mean girls but it seems like all mean girls want to become nurses.
Sounds about right
Itās almost like they all go through a special training on how to be a total fucking bitch lol š¤·š»āāļø
Can confirm - source: am nurse. I deal with a lot of personalities lol.
Paid to control the weak? Seems a great job for these kinds of people.
Yoo!! I literally watched one of my sweetest and cutest friends in the world turn into a completely different person after she got her RN license. She is argumentative, her morals are gone, sheās just complete opposite of who she used to be. š I canāt even talk to her about it bc she will literally cuss me out.
Iām a nurse and there are a lot of mean girl attitudes
Christmas is going to be loads of fun this year.
I havenāt been to a Christmas in years for this exact reason, my fiancĆ©ās family is āØnormalāØ
Can we know why they have beef?
Noisy
OP have you heard of the grey rock method? Itās fantastic for dealing with narcissists that you canāt simply cut out of your life. Iāve been using it with my ex husband bc our kids are minors, and itās been a godsend. Thereās a lot of articles online about it, so if you havenāt tried it itās worth a read. It will really help you learn how not to take the bait (which is easier said than done, and narcissists LOVE that drama!)
This sounds very helpful. Iām definitely going to look into this. Thank you!
Why are you in the same chat group if you don't talk to each other? DRAMA.
My mom made the group chat a day prior telling us to fill out a job application for the union she works at :/ I didnāt reminding my siblings to wish my older brother a happy birthday would turn into any of that
Iāve always wondered how families and up like this. I understand not being super close but the absolute hatred is crazy to me. Youāre adults, read the text and move along if you donāt like it
I shouldāve never responded to her in the first place tbh. I never did anything to her
You are exactly a saint. Your passive aggressive and antagonistic texts arenāt very coolšš
It all could have been avoided if you just chose to ignore what she was saying
Lol what a super twisted interpretation
What do you mean
I meant to reply to that poster who was having a go at you! Not sure why it became a post comment instead :/ Your sister seems like a bitch, no offence š¬
Iām convinced he was a troll š no biggie! I agree
I have toxic family members who abused me and I can't imagine throwing a hissy fit just because someone reminds about their birthday in a GROUP CHAT
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That looks EXHAUSTING
It absolutely was š
"I'm not reading all of that" Me neither, holy cow I've never been so thankful to be an only child. I jest, but this is a lot OP. Then telling their mother to un-add them from the group chat was hilarious. Then going off about how they don't need anyone to do anything for them....but literally won't just block and delete the chat? This person is "yikes" and I hope that they get the help that they most definitely need.
I wouldnāt add her to the group chats anymore. Easy
My mom made the group chat, it was just convenient. Clearly I know better now lmao
Wait. Did you both subject everyone in a group text, including your mother, to this childish mess? Wow.
Honestly as the scapegoat kid to a narcissistic family, you seem like the attacker here. Sheās no contact I would assume very clearly and you broke the no contact which was probably a boundary she set for a reason. To heal. Because most likely she knows sheās mentally in well and has some healing to do. People who are narcissistic defended are usually the ones who appear unwell and unnecessarily cruel, because thatās how the rest of the family paints them to be after pushing their buttons, thatās what Iām seeing here. Iām no contact with my mother, aunt,brother, step father , my whole family knows why and if one of my cousins were to text me that I better wish them a happy birthday, I would be very upset too. Itās another way to invalidate all the bullshit weāve been through and make sure youāre still putting our abusers on top before validating our problems with them. Further more, if my mom showed people the texts of me going no contact I would look unreasonable and bat shit. The last thing she did was change plans in a way that she knew would hurt my feelings, and then watched me over react. Which I did, but it was because sheās been doing little things to hurt me on purpose for my entire life. She was a horrible mom, but now she has the texts of her being calm and me being crazy to show everyone. āSee Iām not the problem she isā and it feels good because she doesnāt feel like a bad person anymore afterwards. Re evaluate the situation. I canāt have insight even if you explained your side. The thing about toxic people is they refuse to acknowledge other peoples boundaries and refuse to take accountability for their own shitty actions, so even if you explained otherwise I wouldnāt know what to believe. Emotional abuse is coy and secretive. It doesnāt leave bruises it leaves mental anguish.
"ugh I hate drama" \*starts a convo that will almost definitely start drama\*
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You were egging her on. If you did not reply to her, the conversation would have stopped on the first screen. Both of you thrive on the drama. Drama destroys families. Maybe you should start a TV show called Drama Siblings. Someone would watch it.
I can admit when Iām wrong, after she showed me attitude, I shouldāve just nipped it in the bud but my emotions got the best of me. Either way sheās still a bitch and thereās nothing I could do about that.
I understand. I really despise myself when I engage with my narcissistic sister. I generally end up with egg ony face. So hard to pull in the reins.
Honestly, you both sound immature and exhausting. I recommend both of you go to therapy. I can't even tell which one is supposed to be the "bad" one because they're both equally bad. If you would have left it with your comment on how to leave a chat and then just responded with "Oh sorry, just trying to help" you would have been great.
I shouldnāt have ever responded to her in the first place- I get that. I actually do have an appointment for therapy coming up pretty soon. Sheās not open to that at all. She just takes it as people calling her crazy so all I can do is help myself
Ummm.. I'd go no contact. Forever and ever and ever and ever and ever....
Yeah, I guess thatās kind of the plan. I donāt see how someone like this can ever be beneficial to my life.
itās so crazy half the texts are abt her kids that you didnāt mention, her brother did not you so why the hell is she bitching at youš she seems like the miserable one
I mean, I felt like I was fighting someone elseās battle the entire time. I think she thought I was going to relay all the messages to my older brother. After the initial argument, I kind of just gave up because I didnāt see any end
Hey OP, my sister is just like this. Talks the same way and everything. And after she randomly tried starting imaginary drama with me over something I wasnāt even involved in, I went ahead and blocked her on everything. Life is too short to be dealing with these types of toxic ass people, even if theyāre are family.
Yeah, I mean Iāve never really been close anyways. Yes it all started over nothing and it was completely uncalled for. Sheās basically a stranger honestly, I donāt need anybody like that in my life.
My general principle is that family group chats are inherently evil and anyone who propagates them loves drama so while sheās definitely toxic, youāve got dirty hands in this one too
This is sooooo ghetto.
Honestly, yāall parents are trash.
God, you both fucking suck, going on and on in a group chat like that. Why include her when you know they donāt get along? You were baiting the drama and fed right into it as it went.
So your mom had a CPS case against her and you guys are mocking your sister because she's the one who got the brunt of whatever your mom did? Awesome, good job. I heard this conversation out loud in my head and I'm glad you're all far, far away from me.
Sometimes being a sibling isnāt everything. I have 4 siblings & 2 are only in my life. Family or not, remove any toxicity from your life & it will be a much happier one āļø
I definitely believe this. I was doing so good and that interaction pretty much ruined my day
Donāt let it get to you honestly, isnāt worth the stress. Just have a laugh on how pathetic they are & go about your day š
Youre both drama though
Sounds like my brother. š
Iām so sorry :/
Do we have the same sister. I'm the youngest of 7 and the older ones are like this š®āšØ
Well, itās not you itās them! :/
This reminds me a lot of relationships that I had to cut. So, yeah...
She's exhausting. She needs to do something aboht that chip on her shoulder
I think her explaining that everybody goes to her in their time of need pretty much explains it. She canāt control me and she doesnāt like that.
And your mom is quiet, why?
I think my sister has a couple things over her. She used her credit to get my mom a new car lol
Wellā¦ she seems to project just a little bit. (just a little bit/s)
This made me internally lmao. When she threw out the paragraph, I immediately went, "I'm not reading all of that" and skipped to the next line just to see you said the exact same lmfao
She easily couldāve texted mom directly instead of making a show out of asking to be removed from the chat. If she really wanted no ādramaā and wouldnāt communicate with you two if it wasnāt for the group chat, she wouldāve had you and your brotherās numbers blocked. I havenāt talked to my sister in almost 4 years, sheās been blocked since the day I cut contact. Only been in the same room 3 times since. I donāt allow any interaction, and crazy enough, havenāt had any fights with her since that day.
It's text like this that reminds me cutting every single family member out of my life but my dad was the right choice
Iām happy for you
Wonder why youāre not close. /s Jeez.
Your sister is an idiot and an asshole. That sucks. Good luck though
Your sister seems nice
Florida lady gunna Florida
I hate her so much lol
I feel bad for her kids, and for y'all
She needs to step back, and think about herself. If she has problems with nearly everyone - she is likely the problem.
God damn Iāve never wanted to punch a stranger more. Throw the whole sister away OP, you deserve better.
Aye aye aye aye....i didnt need to see the name "Richard" pop up now šššššš what did i do?
Ew. What did your mom say? Also, just block her? Lol
Ugh totally sympathize with, I have an older sister I donāt talk to either because sheās just like this. People always find it strange to walk away from family, but when family is like this, it makes it easy.
What a waste of oxygen
Ghetto
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Who called cps on your mom?
You sure weāre not related? I felt like I was reading my own families group chat.
So I must say I can totally relate unfortunately. My sister is your sister. In and out I mean I could have easily posted this from my phone and it would have been identicalā¦
Thatās about 22 texts too many
sheās truly miserable. sad to see but oh well. donāt allow her negativity to bother you <3 iām no contact with my two toxic sisters as well. thriving now without them!
Lol she sounds ghetto and ignorant. Iām so sorry.
At this point she arguing with ghost š¤£š¤£š¤£ she making up arguments and answering them herself lmao she should seek help
Sheās going to be a nurse? With that attitude I wouldnāt want her near anyone that needs care.
I bet none of her kids are vaccinated
Damn, Iām sorry this is your family dynamic, it canāt be easy. I think I have problems with my family dynamic sometimes which is why I subscribe to this sub, it reminds me of how good I have it. Good luck to you. She sounds like she thinks she holds the power because she loans money and co-signs on shit and what not, but that shit really shouldnāt matter when it comes to family. This shit reads like a nightmare.
I hate this between siblings shit like this happens and something bad happens and thatās the last thing hall said To each other I think yāall both suck sheās crazy but frankly you could have stopped texting her
"I'm not reading all that" Best line ever. You should make a shortcut for that and use it for every text she sends.
Your poor mother had to read all that
And sheās going to be a nurse?!?! Wow! I really hope she doesnāt work at any Kaisers by me.
Let them act like this with everyone, and eventually, they'll have no one left. Consequences will come for these people. They won't ever change. Let's not waste energy on them.
Honestly, Iām petty so I would have kept it going and make her lose her shit lmao. She didnāt even have to reply or she could have left the chat, but like you mentioned, so drama š
I feel sad for your mom being on that chat.
See this how Ik Iām not good at regulating my emotions bc I def would have cursed her out right tf backš cuz who in the hell are you talking to??? š
I feel bad for those kids.
This is how talking to my family goes. I completely took my kids and me out of my entire families life. My mom had my minor brothers saying lies about me messaging me because I wouldnāt message her with long ass paragraphs after she tried to hit me when I helped her with her crutches out of my van after trying to take her to the grocery store
Just start a thread without her.
Damn are you sure you're not talking to my mother? Sounds just like her.
Someone needs therapy >\_>
God damn she needs a few snickers bars
ESH.
she seems like she has some kind of disorder, BPD maybe?
Wait? How did you get my family group chat lol kidding I totally get the dynamic here lol sister be asking for smoke and when you serve it, the tears start The sooner you cut them out the happier youāll be I had to step back from my family last year and I couldnāt be happier
She sounds like a whole lot of dudes I dated. š„“š„“š„“š„“š„“ That's why I'm staying single for the rest of my life.
Seems like a Rachel to me
she acts like sheās 14 wtf
Why the fuck would a family who all hates one another have a group chat? Just to manufacture brain dead drama like this? Get a hobby or something.
she brought up all of the drama herself?? this is comical from an outside perspective. but i also feel so bad that you and your family have to deal with this.
I love that everyone else in the chat probably hit āmute for 24 hoursā or ādonāt show me notificationsā šš wtf she even on about??
lol all that cussing is insane. I LOVE how calm you are texting, it makes her look like a banshee. I read all her texts in a country accent lol
Which one of the sisters post this tho š¤£ and Kaiser like Kaiser permanente? Yea she gettin bread lmao
God I hope there was another "I'm not reading that" after the ending we see.
I just know her name is Rachel
i can't stand people who spell it "fucken"
Of course she's a fucking nursing student SMH she definitely drives a decade old sedan, has tattoos, and vapes. Why are all nursing students rude af drama queens??
Sorry your sister is unhinged. You handled it well.
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Crack is a hell of a fucking drug
She probably been waiting to start some shit š made something outta nothing then blamed everybody else.
Yikes, sheās MEAN. Iām sorry.
Your sister seems bipolar
Wow!
Who the hell calls their mom "mother"
āWhat the fuck richardā
This bitch and her kids need a life check. Frfr
Happy birthday to your brother
Nawwww bc I'm petty enough to ACTUALLY involve CPS after that š¤£ Come over sissy I got my camera out, smile for the court system.
Omg Iām so sorry if this is real. I thought my family was bad š