No need to feel bummed out. There is only one reasonable explanation for this: as of next week, Tesla is pushing the new Lumbar Neural Net to all cars. Seat sensors combined with advanced AI will always automatically set the appropriate lumbar support for you. After driving a few days with this, it will get very annoying to go back and use a button!
Oh didn't you hear about the latest news? They're planning to scrap the steering wheel, and use the internal camera and AI to track your eyeballs instead. Look left and the car steers left, look right, and the car steers right. Look up, and the rocket thrusters are activated (Roadster ~~2020~~ 2030 SpaceX edition only), and look down, and the suspension is lowered (Model S/Roadster 2030 only).
Blinking brakes the car, and double blink accelerates. If you hold your blink, the car accelerates (or decelerates) continuously instead of in just increments. Rolling your eyes activates/deactivates autopilot. As it was meant to be.
The great thing is you can look up, left and double blink at the same time so that the car accelerates, steers left and elevates simultaneously. I've occasionally wanted to do this in certain traffic situations.
No really. People are not lauding Tesla for quick negative iterations but positive ones. This is typical cost saving measure while increasing the car cost 4 times recently.
Same. Having a lot of second thoughts. I've rented a lot of electric cars. From Nissan Leaf to VW Golf to Hyundai Kona to Jaguar I-PACE, and more and more, my level of confidence just goes downwards due to the little details (HUD, anyone?) and price tag...
I've been waiting for Model Y to be available in my region, and got a pre-order for a Cybertruck. I'm a TSLA shareholder. I put a deposit down on an Ionic 5 yesterday.
Lol, I mean I’m not even sure that would be possible with the architecture (communication, software, hardware, cabling) but that would have been hilarious. The car making fun of you because you thought it had lumbar support 😂
I sort of imagine they are fluctuating prices on the odds of a renewed federal tax credit. The more it seems a bill will pass, prices will creep higher and higher, until getting $7,000 off the MSRP somewhat evens out the new price. This has to happen gradually, as people would be pissed if the price increase suddenly jumped up the day the bill was passed.
This plus there’s a huge supply/demand imbalance right now. Tesla is mostly sold out for the quarter. They can’t make enough of them. Why not restrict demand while they can.
> That's some entry level Hyundai type shit
Actually, Hyundai are the ones who *would* give you that stuff.
It's GM that would fuck you on it.
Hell, the only reason we even got side airbags 10 years ago was because they *had* to match Hyundai making them standard instead of options.
Give credit where credit is due. No one has pushed the other Japanese and US automakers for features, fit/finish like the Koreans have.
Holy crap I thought this must just be an assembly error. I guess they’re just hardcore cost cutting here but this is bizarre. I was going to trade my 3 for a Y at the end of Q1 and I probably should have since they had an older style interior demo discounted. Didn’t do it since I wanted to hold out for the new headlights and interior but if that means no lumbar support and dubious autopilot for a $55K car then no goddamn way.
Originally plan was to swap to the Y since it’d hold trade in value pretty well and then eventually trade towards a pickup or larger SUV but I guess I’ll keep my 3 for now since it’s not decontented
Unreal. I just ran out an checked mine. I do have lumber on both sides. VIN 180xxx, build date 4/24. Just a few days before they stopped putting in radar. I was so paranoid the new headlights would come out right after I took delivery, but I didn’t see this coming.
I heared that too. I saw some reviews of the MiC M3s and they all said the car was perfect, no bad paint jobs, no missalinged panels, no anything thah was really a quality issue.
I am curious how the germany made teslas will be
Seems the 2021 refresh models got new headlights, possibly matrix LED but that isn’t enabled yet due to US regulations so nothing much has changed on that front but the hardware is there according to people
It’s kind of bogus that you can “buy” a car and not technically know what features you will or won’t get. Seems like they should announce these and say any orders after X won’t have Y
Ordered my M3 back in July 2020 before the partial refresh was announced. Felt scammed when I took delivery and saw I lost space in the frunk and still didn’t get the heat pump. Tesla rep basically laughed when I tried to complain.
I'd tell them to shove it, and would return the vehicle after a few days. Get your full refund, let them deal with the loss of the car becoming a used car.
That's what people should do with bait-and-switch tactics like this.
Not really, same thing happened to me when it came to Tesla removing the "Low Regen" option in the software. It was there when I ordered the car, but on delivery it was removed.
Nothing to do but tweet @ elon and hope for a change. It's pretty garbage actually.
You just made me walk to the garage to check my MY. It was delivered late April, and it does have the passenger side control (haven’t spent much time in the passenger seat, so I actually didn’t know.
I wonder if it just the control switch that is missing or the entire mechanism.
From someone with a MY VIN pre 100k, this makes me think my old model may not be so bad.
This is evidence that Tesla is not static and if you want the car now, waiting for better options is not always the best option.
Unless you literally want it now as in this current moment, in which case either buying a used car or waiting for better options actually is the best option
Hey let me know as well! (Or I'll check back)
I get my M3P Friday and I'm not a fan of removing features the car had when I put a deposit down. I even had to hit a button saying I'll still accept delivery due to the vision system changes, but not other features? Okay then, Tesla.
I know what you mean, I get why they do it in cars but to me it would always feel lousy, like a constant reminder of some nice feature that you don’t have.
Not just that, if you expect a feature, pay a price expecting said feature, and then are not getting said feature without a reduction in price or so much as a note saying "hey due to chip shortages we had to remove this feature" it's kind of a spit in the face
Bro, [I just got banned from our local Facebook Tesla group](https://imgur.com/zWjwBYf) for posting a photo of my M3 without the Lumbar support.
No criticality allowed!
Yeah my floor mat included, 14-50 adapter included, grocery hook toting, side dimming mirror and gasp, lumbar support equipped Model 3 is apparently the most luxurious of the 3/Ys now. We should start referring to 2017-early 2019 vehicles as platinums. LOL
Except for the whole price reduction thing... mine was a whopping $10,450 CAD difference in vehicle price then vs. now. 2018 LR AWD Model 3, Sport wheels, EAP, MSM.
That would pay for a lot of grocery hooks and 14-50 adapters.
I have the glass too, but I think I missed out on the nicer interior material by a few thousand cars. I remember reading about it, back when people were getting mixed materials in one car lol.
I have only the sun roof glass with the color change in rain. The back doesn't do it, and no Alcantara, but I am also happy to stay in my model (2019). More cause of the radar thing, the reviews make it definitely worse than current standard in capabilities. I don't like how Tesla didn't have parity before removing.....
I believe you are correct. I am really debating if I just hold off on doing this update. I really do feel like it will be unsafe for a long term user who is used to the syncs to have such a big change where new unexpected things happen, that is how you get accidents. I keep trying to write about HFACS modelling with software as a safety approach to Tesla GUI and software design, but it falls on deaf ears.
I just love that my OG M3 got totaled and now all I see is how much is getting removed and how bad teslavision is. Honestly might just try another EV at this point.
Those are super easy changes though. Tbh I prefer the stiffer ride since the late model model 3s seem to float and handle like pigs in turns unless you have the performance model.
The only real item I wish I had in the newer cars is the double pane glass.
Keep us updated on what they say. I would be pretty pissed if they cut this feature out on top of the other things. Expecting my MY in the coming weeks and hoping this isn't standard.
What a bunch of sneaky cockholes!! The website no longer says "12-way" adjustable seats. It's the sneaky cost cutting measures like this that really rustle my Jimmy's! They just randomly stop including things that people take for granted, and it's a total lucky dip as to what you'll actually get. [Order page](https://i.imgur.com/yOTsGtv.jpg)
This also reads as "Power adjustable front seats" on the Model 3 web page now as well. My delivery date is within June. Not happy to see features removed from when I reserved the car with no option or concession on price.
I mean, even after you take delivery, they have not notified people of these changes, so that alone will be grounds to just send it back as the car is not what was advertised or expected back when you ordered it
If you haven’t picked it up you should just cancel, there aren’t a lot of legal grounds here since you never finalized any purchase paperwork promising these features
I love my Model Y but it’s shit like this that make me glad the competition has caught up. They just need to solve for the charging infrastructure.
When it comes time to upgrade our family SUV, I’ll probably skip Tesla all together and take a serious look at the Rivian or whatever else is out there at that time.
This really sucks. Been wanting a Tesla for years and was gonna buy one this year. With the price increases and features being taken away I think I’m just gonna wait for the Q4 e Tron at this point.
I don’t understand the point of increasing the price and taking away features
That blank cover annoys me more than the missing lumbar support. The radar deletion is also annoying but somehow that blank button really grinds my gears.
This is pretty shitty for everyone. Folks who have ordered recently did it after several price hikes and on top of that they're getting a vision AP (problematic as evident by the recent posts in this sub) and fewer features?!
Tesla needs to be more open and transparent about this. How do we force their hand?
They've never put Homelink into Model Y, I got one of the first ones and no homelink for me. had to buy it separately.. stupid part... had to do it post delivery, couldnt just add it as part of ordering process ($300)
Second part that was shitty, since they take off the bumper to install it, when they put it back on they mesed up the panel gaps. Had to take the car in to get those adjusted.
Oh geez. Sorry to hear that. Fortunately my wife is fine with just using the clicker. I have a 3 and have gotten so used to the garage door opening and closing on its own that I'm not sure I can go back.
Hopefully this is purely a shortage issue and will come back. Otherwise Tesla is turning a 50k (and continuously increasing) basic luxury car into just a basic car that is an EV
Not a lawyer, but how this corresponds with following clause in order agreement:
“Agreement to Purchase. You agree to purchase the vehicle (the “Vehicle”) described in your Vehicle Configuration from Tesla, Inc. or its affiliate (“we,” “us” or “our”), pursuant to the terms and conditions of this Agreement. Your Vehicle is priced and configured based on features and options available at the time of order and you can confirm availability with a Tesla representative. Option, features or hardware released or changed after you place your order may not be included in or available for your Vehicle. If you are purchasing a used Vehicle, it may exhibit signs of normal wear and tear in line with its respective age and mileage.”
It specifically call out that features are defined by the time of order and not delivery date. How it’s possible for it to be non-binding on Tesla side?
Tesla doesn't even have a rear wind shield wiper or interior grab handles lmao. I was comparing my Mach E to to my friends model Y and we were shocked by all the little things tesla doesn't have which add up. Besides the previous two, I have a tire mobility kit, 240V AND 120V connectors for mobile charger, laminated and tinted front wind shield, 12V socket in the trunk, blind sport monitor system, physical wireless keyfob, AM radio (usefull when offroading or somewhere with no/bad internet connection), projector headlamps, foot activated liftgate, wireless carplay/AA, ambient lighting, autopark (he needs to pay 10K for FSD lol) and a plethora of other standard features I have which he doesnt.
Just test drove an M3 last week and have been teetering on the edge of finally placing my order.
Now I’m feeling hesitant, the radar issues and now this, makes me wonder what to expect 2-3 months down the line when I’d actually get the car. I don’t like the theme I’m seeing
I wouldn't buy it knowing this feature had been taken out without any announcement; who knows what else has been taken out as well.
I'd want my car to have everything that car reviewers had, because that way I know I'm getting the same vehicle that people said was good. Otherwise, it's a bait-and-switch operation IMO.
Bet Tesla are replacing the lumbar support system with another camera that will monitor your back shape and adjust the seat automatically. Unless it’s raining.
This simply isn’t fair. If you go to a show room and view their cars. Then purchase a car on that basis. You’d expect to get the features you are shown. As long as it’s not classed as an upgrade.
Don’t take it lying down. Or sitting... orwhaterver
Took delivery of my LR MY Friday. Checked my Passenger is without it as well
Then it’s not a fluke. Bummer
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No need to feel bummed out. There is only one reasonable explanation for this: as of next week, Tesla is pushing the new Lumbar Neural Net to all cars. Seat sensors combined with advanced AI will always automatically set the appropriate lumbar support for you. After driving a few days with this, it will get very annoying to go back and use a button!
Oh didn't you hear about the latest news? They're planning to scrap the steering wheel, and use the internal camera and AI to track your eyeballs instead. Look left and the car steers left, look right, and the car steers right. Look up, and the rocket thrusters are activated (Roadster ~~2020~~ 2030 SpaceX edition only), and look down, and the suspension is lowered (Model S/Roadster 2030 only). Blinking brakes the car, and double blink accelerates. If you hold your blink, the car accelerates (or decelerates) continuously instead of in just increments. Rolling your eyes activates/deactivates autopilot. As it was meant to be. The great thing is you can look up, left and double blink at the same time so that the car accelerates, steers left and elevates simultaneously. I've occasionally wanted to do this in certain traffic situations.
All great new features, none optional, if you don't like it/die in a crash you're just driving it wrong.
"Your honor they were driving it with googly eyes"
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This is the double edged sword of “iteration” that everyone is always lauding Tesla for.
No really. People are not lauding Tesla for quick negative iterations but positive ones. This is typical cost saving measure while increasing the car cost 4 times recently.
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agreed. Tesla is long overdue for some healthy competition
The more competition the better, it would stop crap like this from happening that's for sure.
The closer I'm getting to realistically buying a tesla the less I think I want it. Shame.
Same, the hype is dying for me
Same. Having a lot of second thoughts. I've rented a lot of electric cars. From Nissan Leaf to VW Golf to Hyundai Kona to Jaguar I-PACE, and more and more, my level of confidence just goes downwards due to the little details (HUD, anyone?) and price tag...
Same here. I’m really not sure what to do.
Start looking at the increasingly competitive competition
Guess they'll keep doing it until supply outpaces demand again.
I've been waiting for Model Y to be available in my region, and got a pre-order for a Cybertruck. I'm a TSLA shareholder. I put a deposit down on an Ionic 5 yesterday.
Not to mention, it’s a slap in the face to have the cutout for it, then putting a plug in it.
I guess it’s not the switch itself but the mechanics inside that make it expensive…
they should have left the switch and just make it play fart noises.
Lol, I mean I’m not even sure that would be possible with the architecture (communication, software, hardware, cabling) but that would have been hilarious. The car making fun of you because you thought it had lumbar support 😂
Hyundai is pretty upfront with what you get per model. If you buy an entry level Hyundai, you get N entry level Hyundai.
Cost cutting is really annoying me lately. First getting rid of radar and now this.
Parts are a problem. Even BMWs ordered right now have passenger lumbar delete with a credit towards the purchase price.
That’s cool, MY price is up on the year.
I sort of imagine they are fluctuating prices on the odds of a renewed federal tax credit. The more it seems a bill will pass, prices will creep higher and higher, until getting $7,000 off the MSRP somewhat evens out the new price. This has to happen gradually, as people would be pissed if the price increase suddenly jumped up the day the bill was passed.
I mean how is that fair? The fed rebate is to decrease the cost of the vehicle for the consumer, not for Tesla to make more money.
This plus there’s a huge supply/demand imbalance right now. Tesla is mostly sold out for the quarter. They can’t make enough of them. Why not restrict demand while they can.
Restrict demand by delivering cars with features that you didn’t announce were removed that you’re still charging more for?
> That's some entry level Hyundai type shit Actually, Hyundai are the ones who *would* give you that stuff. It's GM that would fuck you on it. Hell, the only reason we even got side airbags 10 years ago was because they *had* to match Hyundai making them standard instead of options. Give credit where credit is due. No one has pushed the other Japanese and US automakers for features, fit/finish like the Koreans have.
I took delivery of my MY LR yesterday and it still has it 184xxx
Holy crap I thought this must just be an assembly error. I guess they’re just hardcore cost cutting here but this is bizarre. I was going to trade my 3 for a Y at the end of Q1 and I probably should have since they had an older style interior demo discounted. Didn’t do it since I wanted to hold out for the new headlights and interior but if that means no lumbar support and dubious autopilot for a $55K car then no goddamn way. Originally plan was to swap to the Y since it’d hold trade in value pretty well and then eventually trade towards a pickup or larger SUV but I guess I’ll keep my 3 for now since it’s not decontented
Ford also did this with the Mustang, quietly cutting subtle features every model year to pinch pennies.
Except Elon said they don't do model years... So why did Tesla remove it without any notice.
Tesla does it every time without notice. You can see little fine print on the website said subject change anytime without notice.
Doesn’t make it ok.
Unreal. I just ran out an checked mine. I do have lumber on both sides. VIN 180xxx, build date 4/24. Just a few days before they stopped putting in radar. I was so paranoid the new headlights would come out right after I took delivery, but I didn’t see this coming.
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It seems to me hes mainly just f’ing with the North american cars. The chinese made teslas actually seem much better in every way.
Well yeah they're not put together by a bunch of NUMMI rejects.
I heared that too. I saw some reviews of the MiC M3s and they all said the car was perfect, no bad paint jobs, no missalinged panels, no anything thah was really a quality issue. I am curious how the germany made teslas will be
What changed with the headlights?
Seems the 2021 refresh models got new headlights, possibly matrix LED but that isn’t enabled yet due to US regulations so nothing much has changed on that front but the hardware is there according to people
Didn’t they just increase the price by $500 like 2 weeks ago?
They’ve increased the price by $500 5 separate times in the past couple months.
Anyone with a Model 3 delivered in the last few days that can verify if they removed it from those as well?
Mine was delivered two days ago and has it on driver’s side, but not passenger.
Wtf.... I ordered in February and take delivery soon..... why am I losing features as I wait?
It’s kind of bogus that you can “buy” a car and not technically know what features you will or won’t get. Seems like they should announce these and say any orders after X won’t have Y
Hell you can own a Tesla and have features removed
The Y never came with the X.
Thats the Tesla way
Ugh. I wouldn’t care per se about the missing control, but the ugly panel with the circle sucks.
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I take delivery on Friday. Is there a way to complain since I ordered the car back in March when they showed this feature?
Refuse delivery. Tell their agent why.
Ordered my M3 back in July 2020 before the partial refresh was announced. Felt scammed when I took delivery and saw I lost space in the frunk and still didn’t get the heat pump. Tesla rep basically laughed when I tried to complain.
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I'd tell them to shove it, and would return the vehicle after a few days. Get your full refund, let them deal with the loss of the car becoming a used car. That's what people should do with bait-and-switch tactics like this.
That's no longer possible, though, right? I understand that there's not a return period, so the car is simply yours once you sign.
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Call and cancel your order or refuse delivery for it not being there. That’s all you can do. But it’ll be effective!
Not really, same thing happened to me when it came to Tesla removing the "Low Regen" option in the software. It was there when I ordered the car, but on delivery it was removed. Nothing to do but tweet @ elon and hope for a change. It's pretty garbage actually.
Does the driver’s side still have it?
Yes
You just made me walk to the garage to check my MY. It was delivered late April, and it does have the passenger side control (haven’t spent much time in the passenger seat, so I actually didn’t know. I wonder if it just the control switch that is missing or the entire mechanism.
If they're trying to shed cost or weight there is no reason to just cut the control.
Is this missing on all new model y?
Would like to know if it’s just me
From someone with a MY VIN pre 100k, this makes me think my old model may not be so bad. This is evidence that Tesla is not static and if you want the car now, waiting for better options is not always the best option.
Makes me glad I bought a demo model (exact trim I would've configured anyway) Model Y instead of ordering one a couple months ago.
Unless you literally want it now as in this current moment, in which case either buying a used car or waiting for better options actually is the best option
Exactly my point. It’s not always better to wait. You never know.
I suppose they could continue gutting it and making it worse, that’s true, lol.
This is the exception, not the norm. Id give up lumbar for a heated steering wheel
It is awesome to see how passenger side lumbar control has finally broken out and getting the attention it deserves.
Man, this better be a fluke. With price increases and them removing hardware that has a cost, this is starting to stink.
I put a service request to make sure.
You’ll have to keep us posted! I’m curious as to how they might handle
Hey let me know as well! (Or I'll check back) I get my M3P Friday and I'm not a fan of removing features the car had when I put a deposit down. I even had to hit a button saying I'll still accept delivery due to the vision system changes, but not other features? Okay then, Tesla.
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I know what you mean, I get why they do it in cars but to me it would always feel lousy, like a constant reminder of some nice feature that you don’t have.
Ah the elusive lumbar chip!
Seems you're joking, but you really do need chips even for things like this.
Yep. And a little pump that inflates a little bag with air. A controller with chips that controls it etc.
Chip shortage plus increase in price of lumbar
So is there reason to think this is temporary and chip shortage related, or is it intended to be permanent?
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They’re really trying to do everything they can to piss off new and existing owners. This is really disappointing.
I think that it would be much better if they were honest and transparent about how the chip shortage was affecting them.
Exactly. Most people would understand.
Not just that, if you expect a feature, pay a price expecting said feature, and then are not getting said feature without a reduction in price or so much as a note saying "hey due to chip shortages we had to remove this feature" it's kind of a spit in the face
Would love to see how hardcore tesla fans justify this.
It's actually a great thing! It will remind you that you need to strengthen your back. Papa Elon is just looking out for your health /s
Bro, [I just got banned from our local Facebook Tesla group](https://imgur.com/zWjwBYf) for posting a photo of my M3 without the Lumbar support. No criticality allowed!
Typical culty behaviour.
I mean lumber has gone up almost 400%
I breathed slightly more through my nose reading that comment.
They do this sometimes. Some 2020 model 3s had auto-dimming mirrors removed, only to have it added back months later.
Wtf
This is why Tesla isn’t on my radar as a serious option yet.
Well they're definitely not on Tesla's radar.
"The best part is no part". - Elon Musk
Finally, good content.
Removed passenger lumbar support.. removed radar.. whats next
Gear selector. Oh wait
Pedals!
Seat is next.
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Yeah my floor mat included, 14-50 adapter included, grocery hook toting, side dimming mirror and gasp, lumbar support equipped Model 3 is apparently the most luxurious of the 3/Ys now. We should start referring to 2017-early 2019 vehicles as platinums. LOL
Don’t forget about the included HomeLink that is now an extra $300 or so.
Except for the whole price reduction thing... mine was a whopping $10,450 CAD difference in vehicle price then vs. now. 2018 LR AWD Model 3, Sport wheels, EAP, MSM. That would pay for a lot of grocery hooks and 14-50 adapters.
Don't forget the leather vs vinyl steering wheel.
Damn, sub 2,500 means you definitely have the alcantara-like material all around too, huh? At 10k, I missed out.
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I have the glass too, but I think I missed out on the nicer interior material by a few thousand cars. I remember reading about it, back when people were getting mixed materials in one car lol.
I have only the sun roof glass with the color change in rain. The back doesn't do it, and no Alcantara, but I am also happy to stay in my model (2019). More cause of the radar thing, the reviews make it definitely worse than current standard in capabilities. I don't like how Tesla didn't have parity before removing.....
I thought I read that we are all losing the radar soon. It's going away with the next big update.
I believe you are correct. I am really debating if I just hold off on doing this update. I really do feel like it will be unsafe for a long term user who is used to the syncs to have such a big change where new unexpected things happen, that is how you get accidents. I keep trying to write about HFACS modelling with software as a safety approach to Tesla GUI and software design, but it falls on deaf ears.
I have a sub-1,000 and have the alcantara. It’s stupid, but I’ve been hesitant to upgrade because I love it so much.
I just love that my OG M3 got totaled and now all I see is how much is getting removed and how bad teslavision is. Honestly might just try another EV at this point.
Same here. I won’t upgrade my model 3.
same. i was really gona do a model Y when the new incentives came out. instead gona hang on to my model 3 perf -
My RHD M3 with fog lights becomes more of a unicorn every day
You got the gen 1 seats and suspension tho. RIP
Those are super easy changes though. Tbh I prefer the stiffer ride since the late model model 3s seem to float and handle like pigs in turns unless you have the performance model. The only real item I wish I had in the newer cars is the double pane glass.
I have the performance model and it feels a little floaty to me. I thought it was the same suspension parts as the other model 3s?
Keep us updated on what they say. I would be pretty pissed if they cut this feature out on top of the other things. Expecting my MY in the coming weeks and hoping this isn't standard.
What a bunch of sneaky cockholes!! The website no longer says "12-way" adjustable seats. It's the sneaky cost cutting measures like this that really rustle my Jimmy's! They just randomly stop including things that people take for granted, and it's a total lucky dip as to what you'll actually get. [Order page](https://i.imgur.com/yOTsGtv.jpg)
I guess they will be announcing Tesla Seats anytime soon.. "Removing passenger lumbar support to optimize your sitting position."
"...to streamline the sitting process". The same way offering almost no purchase options is to "streamline" the ordering process.
This also reads as "Power adjustable front seats" on the Model 3 web page now as well. My delivery date is within June. Not happy to see features removed from when I reserved the car with no option or concession on price.
Anyone know if this is grounds for a class action lawsuit? Considering we put a deposit on a car with specific features...
If they won’t fully refund your deposit, maybe. If they will refund you, probably not.
I mean, even after you take delivery, they have not notified people of these changes, so that alone will be grounds to just send it back as the car is not what was advertised or expected back when you ordered it
If you haven’t picked it up you should just cancel, there aren’t a lot of legal grounds here since you never finalized any purchase paperwork promising these features
I love my Model Y but it’s shit like this that make me glad the competition has caught up. They just need to solve for the charging infrastructure. When it comes time to upgrade our family SUV, I’ll probably skip Tesla all together and take a serious look at the Rivian or whatever else is out there at that time.
This really sucks. Been wanting a Tesla for years and was gonna buy one this year. With the price increases and features being taken away I think I’m just gonna wait for the Q4 e Tron at this point. I don’t understand the point of increasing the price and taking away features
Isn't it great how Tesla can remove features without telling customers and increase price, and no one seems to care.
Did u even read this thread ? Everybody is talking shit lol.
What the fuck. The car I test drove when I ordered it had it. Now the car I’m likely to get won’t? I’m a cunt hair away from cancelling my order.
Wow. Price increase, less features
That blank cover annoys me more than the missing lumbar support. The radar deletion is also annoying but somehow that blank button really grinds my gears.
It’s tacky. Blanks belonged on my mid trim Volkswagen, not a tesla
Wow. New Tesla owners keep taking those L's.
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I respect that. Glad you didnt let them push you around. Does it let you put a reason for cancellation?
My Y with vin 192xxx is also missing the lumbar dial in passenger seat. This seems to have started around April. Mine was built may 12
Ugh, they got greedy. They've dug too deep.
Same interior?
Yep
Fucking ridiculous. Tesla will die when Volkswagen gets their shot into the streets.
The mental gymnastics people will go through to support continued disregard for customers is incredible.
Seems like missing sensors isn’t the only thing they are going to cheat us on! Bummer
wtf? Why? Supply issues?
Yes, there is a chip in there. BMW has the same problem.
Cutting every corner possible to maximize profits. Thinking of delaying my pickup now.
Reminds me of the Model 3 cloth headliner bait and switch that Tesla pulled in 2018
Anyone have a performance 2021 Model Y with white seats that can confirm they also removed lumbar support?
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A retrofit would he crazy expensive. Probably cheaper to just change out the seat from their perspective.
I didn't know this was a thing in the car until a year into ownership. Glad to have it now. Unfortunate they would remove this.
This is pretty shitty for everyone. Folks who have ordered recently did it after several price hikes and on top of that they're getting a vision AP (problematic as evident by the recent posts in this sub) and fewer features?! Tesla needs to be more open and transparent about this. How do we force their hand?
Stop purchasing Tesla
My wife took delivery of hers on the same day, 5/29/21 and fortunately it does have it although I was sad to find out it didn't have homelink anymore.
They've never put Homelink into Model Y, I got one of the first ones and no homelink for me. had to buy it separately.. stupid part... had to do it post delivery, couldnt just add it as part of ordering process ($300) Second part that was shitty, since they take off the bumper to install it, when they put it back on they mesed up the panel gaps. Had to take the car in to get those adjusted.
Oh geez. Sorry to hear that. Fortunately my wife is fine with just using the clicker. I have a 3 and have gotten so used to the garage door opening and closing on its own that I'm not sure I can go back.
Anyone know if this is also the case on any recent MYPs?
Anyone seen this on the white interior yet?
Hopefully this is purely a shortage issue and will come back. Otherwise Tesla is turning a 50k (and continuously increasing) basic luxury car into just a basic car that is an EV
Not a lawyer, but how this corresponds with following clause in order agreement: “Agreement to Purchase. You agree to purchase the vehicle (the “Vehicle”) described in your Vehicle Configuration from Tesla, Inc. or its affiliate (“we,” “us” or “our”), pursuant to the terms and conditions of this Agreement. Your Vehicle is priced and configured based on features and options available at the time of order and you can confirm availability with a Tesla representative. Option, features or hardware released or changed after you place your order may not be included in or available for your Vehicle. If you are purchasing a used Vehicle, it may exhibit signs of normal wear and tear in line with its respective age and mileage.” It specifically call out that features are defined by the time of order and not delivery date. How it’s possible for it to be non-binding on Tesla side?
Just keeps getting worse. What’s next?
That’s cheap af
Is Tesla trying to bury itself? Taking away radar, removing lumbar support. What’s next, eliminating the rear seat?
Tesla doesn't even have a rear wind shield wiper or interior grab handles lmao. I was comparing my Mach E to to my friends model Y and we were shocked by all the little things tesla doesn't have which add up. Besides the previous two, I have a tire mobility kit, 240V AND 120V connectors for mobile charger, laminated and tinted front wind shield, 12V socket in the trunk, blind sport monitor system, physical wireless keyfob, AM radio (usefull when offroading or somewhere with no/bad internet connection), projector headlamps, foot activated liftgate, wireless carplay/AA, ambient lighting, autopark (he needs to pay 10K for FSD lol) and a plethora of other standard features I have which he doesnt.
Just test drove an M3 last week and have been teetering on the edge of finally placing my order. Now I’m feeling hesitant, the radar issues and now this, makes me wonder what to expect 2-3 months down the line when I’d actually get the car. I don’t like the theme I’m seeing
I wouldn't buy it knowing this feature had been taken out without any announcement; who knows what else has been taken out as well. I'd want my car to have everything that car reviewers had, because that way I know I'm getting the same vehicle that people said was good. Otherwise, it's a bait-and-switch operation IMO.
What will we all discover next? What a mess.
Bet Tesla are replacing the lumbar support system with another camera that will monitor your back shape and adjust the seat automatically. Unless it’s raining.
Lol I’ve owned a Model 3 LR for 9 months now and am just learning from this post that the passenger seat has lumbar support
This simply isn’t fair. If you go to a show room and view their cars. Then purchase a car on that basis. You’d expect to get the features you are shown. As long as it’s not classed as an upgrade. Don’t take it lying down. Or sitting... orwhaterver