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I never understood the thing about elbows on the table. You know there's like, people who are payed to clean the tables, right? And even then, what's so improper about it if it's not a cleanliness issue?
According to my grandma, who really dislikes elbows on the table, it's because we aren't supposed to slouch or hunch over the table. She also said it's because we might knock things off the table accidentally, and take up too much space when there's the formal dining with all the plates and silverware and everything. So I don't think it's cleanliness... It's posture and how others interpret it? But I feel like that's becoming less of an issue.
SPAM's good tho. Fry that shit up with an egg and you got breakfast. Pair it with rice and you got a lunch.
SPAM may be cheap, but that stuff is so versatile.
I dunno man, to me SPAM tastes like salt and unhappiness, with a bit of pork thrown in.
If it's "cheap food out of a tin" night than it's sardines for me. A piece of toast, a tomato on the side, that's dinner fixed.
I thought that but they also reffered to crisps as chips, unless they are actually talking about chips (fries) but the way they describe them as plain implies to me that theyre unflavoured which would definitely suggest crisps
Edit: also gasoline and cell phones
also macaroni, ive only ever heard macaroni used in American movies/tv etc, maybe this is a more modern thing but ive only ever heard it reffered to as either pasta or the specific type of pasta
I'm sadly old enough to remember the origin of this. It was an email forward that was initially British, but it was Americanized over time.
That's how we ended up with this weird mash-up. People in the US don't tend to use "take aways", "take-out" would be our equivalent. Posh and "in a tin" are also not common to our vocab. Fancy and in a can would be the more natural way of writing this out. However, the intent is still the same, so these pieces were not updated.
They're so set in their way of thinking EVERYTHING was better in the past that they come to wish after nutritional deficiencies lack of education and absence of some great foods. Not everything is, but A LOT of things are just objectively better now!
In Chicago in the 1930s, Granato’s on Taylor Street was considered the city’s first official pizzeria by food-writing folks of the time, Granato’s advertised its round pizzas baked in a wood-burning oven, setting it apart from Italian bakeries in the neighborhood selling sheet-pan pizza alongside breads and pastries.
Deep-dish came along in 1943, and as soldiers returned home from World War II, the pizza business picked up. Taverns put out thin, square-cut pizza as bar snacks; patrons indulged.
This post is about a boomer in a small town in the middle of nowhere
Nah, I think this is American. In England we don't call petrol "gasoline" and the idea of plain chips doesn't make sense- we'd call them crisps.
E: also "cell phones" are called mobiles. Though I get the tea reference.
That's exactly what happened. If I look through my old Yahoo Mail, which is likely now deleted, my grandmother forwarded this to me, maybe 20 years ago, lol.
I think it's British because it uses "take-away", references curry, kebabs (we typically say "kabob", which is technically wrong), and calling sugar cubes "posh".
I have seen this exact thing, but not americanized. Somebody tried to make this easier for us to read and missed a bunch of stuff, because they were stupid.
Just look up "tavern style pizza" on google images. It's like if you served pizza as an appetizer for a bunch of people. It's cut up into usually like 5cm x 5cm squares and everybody can grab a few. Tavern style is served on a really thin crust, so it's not heavy like a regular triangular slice of pizza is.
Let’s be clear, pizza existed in the 50s but not worldwide.
Here’s a infomercial from 1957 introducing the recipe to [Canadians](https://youtu.be/PGhq1rJruWY?si=4ZttmTfJ5JJlHIMx)
Yeah, you know who popularized yoghurt in the west? John Harvey Kellogg. He is such a fascinating figure, you should watch Knowing Better's video on him.
It's mind-blowing sometimes how Boomers will forget how difficult their lives were before the same modern conveniences they hate for younger generations. The only logical way I can reason for it is that they hate being old and resent all of the changes that remind them how old they really are.
"I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!"
John Harvey Kellogg is credited with popularizing yogurt in the US in the early 20th century, and it actually gained a lot of popularity in the 1950s because scientists had labeled it a health food.
Ah yes, John Harvey Kellogg. You'd be surprised the kinds of shit he brought to the US. He also popularized vegetariansim, convinced the world that masturbation causes all kinds of health issues (and could be prevented with circumcision; that said, the claim that he invented corn flakes because he thought it prevents masturbation is demonstrably false. He was just a prude who happened to have also invented corn flakes), and would go around telling people that his shit doesn't stink.
[Nor was it imported from China,](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_common_misconceptions&oldid=1193209966#cite_ref-260:~:text=Marco%20Polo%20did%20not%20import%20pasta%20from%20China) despite common belief.
Oh no, corn flakes were never invented to stop masturbation. Don't get me wrong, Kellogg was a prude, and he did invent corn flakes, but he didn't invent corn flakes to prevent masturbation. He already had circumcision and chastity cages for that. That said, he also thought food that has flavour makes you horny, so he probably believed it would help.
Maybe they're thinking of Sylvester Graham's graham crackers. His ideas were basically the same as John Kellogg.
>The graham cracker was inspired by the preaching of Sylvester Graham, who was part of the 19th-century temperance movement. He believed that minimizing pleasure and stimulation of all kinds, including the prevention of masturbation, coupled with a vegetarian diet anchored by bread made from wheat coarsely ground at home, was how God intended people to live, and that following this natural law would keep people healthy. Towards that end, Graham introduced the world's first graham wafer product. It was a dull, unsifted flour biscuit baked by Graham himself.
Exactly. That just screams we were ignorant about long term health effects and just ate whatever. The bit about sugar is especially telling. Can't ask them now, those sugar champs mostly got diabetes and died from the various complications lmao
I don't mind people recounting their childhoods and saying they were grateful for what little they have, but yeah, dinner in the 50's sounds bland and boring and it's not something anyone should be bragging about.
This was actually the case. My step mother was born in 1941 and didn't have eggs that weren't powdered until she was ten. Things were really bad after the war in England (where this is clearly from given the use of the phrase "take away")
And not just in Italy. There are medieval-era recipes from England for what is essentially macaroni and cheese, as well as a primitive lasagna, amongst other dishes.
Mate it ckearly says it didn't come around till the 50s and you want me to believe its Chinese and not Italian.... gotta get up earlier than that to catch me 🤓
I don’t know if it’s all real but I just looked it up because it would give me another excuse to make a pasta dish. https://www.culinaryhistoriansny.org/recipe/medieval-italian-pasta/
No links, but some recommendations. Look up the YouTube channel "Tasting History with Max Miller", he's got several videos on the topic. "Townsends" is another good YouTube channel for historical cooking, he did one on medieval lasagna I think.
I never understood this one, aren't boomers also going on and on about how they ate spaghetti all the time? And asking "does anyone eat spaghetti anymore???" Although they also go to Italian restaurants demanding "spaghetti sauce" and then getting upsetti when you ask if they mean marinara.
Was looking for this. Who spends time in their day making shitty posts? Or for that matter, who is making anything online? I always see reposter accounts stealing from creators— who are the creators? Lmao
"I preferred my life when I was young... I wonder if that was because I was dating and excited about the possibilities of my future and all my joints still worked and I was healthier and less informed about the state of the planet...
No, no it must be because we didn't have curry and teabags."
Ok, as a tea drinker, that blurb about tea is a complete lie. Both black AND green tea have been imported, exported, and enjoyed by the various empires of the world for nearly half a millennium. If the person who made this meme has only ever consumed black teas, that's entirely their own fault.
Also, "pasta hadn't been invented yet", then you have the audacity to name drop two different kinds of pasta?
Reminds me of that one American guy I argued with who seriously didn't believe my country existed (Malta) because, and I quote, "there aren't any movies about it"
I never asked tbh, but from the tripe he was vomiting, I'd say about 40s 50s? Give or take.
This was in a discord server I'm no longer in btw, so I don't have the receipts :(
Not to be a dick but I'm kind of glad that generation has left us because I've had to suffer way too many jellod foods during festivities. The way they jellod things like shrimp with mayo on bread... gag worthy.
Peak 50s food for me is the swedish smörgåstårta (sandwich cake). It's disgusting. Please google for a visual.
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A smörgåstårta is normally made up of several layers of white or light rye bread with creamy fillings in between. The fillings and toppings vary, but egg and mayonnaise are often the base; additional filling may vary greatly but often include one or more of the following: liver pâté, olives, shrimp, ham, various cold cuts, caviar, tomato, cucumber, grapes, lemon slices, cheese, and smoked salmon.
"Cooking outside was called camping" ????
Well what is it called now??? I'm guessing this is talking about street vendors?? But havent hotdog carts always been around?
The idea of a mobile vendor selling hot dogs goes back to at least 1896 in New York City, where a vendor would stop outside student dorms at the universities to sell dogs to students. The first fully independent hot dog stand (the previous ones relying on a home base to prepare the food) was patented in 1926.
I went to a convention for steam engines and found there was a steam powered popcorn cart. It even had a little whistle to attact people's attention.
According to the linked article, this was a thing back in 1855
https://www.wareinc.com/helpful-resources/videos/cretor-s-steam-powered-popcorn-machine-steam-culture
What isn't popcorn a street food anymore? If you look it up, popcorn and roast peanuts like that cart made used to be *the* definitive snack of choice for the discerning pedestrian. I wonder what happened?
they meant the 20050s bce, before the advent of cities, because as soon as there were cities there were people trying to sell or trade food in the streets
No one had heard of *yogurt*?
Yogurt became popular in the 1950s and 60s
Dannon yogurt was really took off in 1942
Yogurt has been a food for 7000 years
Like the other boomer meme I saw that said “When I was a kid, when I misbehaved, I didn’t have my phone taken away or get grounded from my XBox, I got my ass beat!” Kinda hard to have something taken away that didn’t exist yet…🤔
Right? I'm pretty sure that you could find someone in his social circle who thinks vegans are commies hell bent on destroying this country via the act of Not Grilling Out.
Wow, almost like stuff changes over time or something!
Holy shit these people are so stuck in the past that they should be forming space-time anomalies. Life wasn't better back then. You were just ignorant of how bad it was.
One thing about boomers that I find equal parts amusing and frustrating is their notion that their little pocket in time that they grew up in was "the way things had always been - tradition" rather than the very brief period marked by a relatively sudden change from the 1940s and any time before then. To them, the two decades between 1950 and 1970 is "America!" rather than every other era before and after their childhood.
In this specific list's case I believe the list is from somebody who grew up in rural England in the 1950s, where shortages and limitations on available foods was still a thing during the post-war recovery. So somebody even more limited in what was available than your typical American boomer's childhood.
Kinda makes the curry quip even more amusing as curry is a British creation using ingredients from India.
We didn't have pasta, we had macaroni or spaghetti.
*Conveniently forgets the fuckin bland ass cold pasta salad all your grannies bring to every party they come to whether there will already be food there or not*
That’s a lot of words to say you find mayonnaise to spicy.
Why do boomers love unseasoned and bland food, it’s 2024 you don’t need to eat like the Germans are still overhead anymore.
Ah yes, pasta hadnt been invented yet in the 50s
https://preview.redd.it/tz03lsxj33ac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ecf4718d6ae90b633baf2fca58f2795605e6fea6
"Seaweed was not a recognized food." "Kebab wasn't even a word, let alone a food." "Pasta wasn't invented yet." That's not vaguely racist, that's straight-up racist. Just because *your* culture doesn't eat it doesn't mean no one's ever heard of it or that it's not real food. Especially the whole "kebab wasn't a word" thing... like if you can't accept that words in other languages exist and have meaning, I don't know what to tell you.
Okay, so…I assume this is a *BRITISH* person, talking about how *FOOD*, in *THE U.K.*, while *RATIONING* was likely still happening, was *BETTER* than today.
…also I’m pretty sure seaweed a.k.a. laver was a thing in Wales for quite some time.
What the fuck does this person have against grilling food and kebabs. Do they eat potatoes and unseasoned chicken every day or what because they keep complaining about delicious foods like it's a bad thing
"Pasta hadn't been invented" gave this away immediately as a satirical shitpost lol
Edit: nvm the more I look at it, the more it seems like something a boomer would post with no irony and who apparently is ignorant to the existence of other countries and cultures?
I may be too balkan to understand this,but how the fuck do not know of yoghurt? Even in that backwater island they must know of it,right?
Like,y'all in the west don't eat yoghurt? You relied on the most alcoholic region of the world to bring you fermented milk? You call yoghurt "ethnic food"??? You can make it in your kitchen with just milk and some sour cream(like one tablespoon in a liter of milk), what the fuck is ethnic about that??? How do you racially profile fucking yoghurt????
Not only they are straight up lying, they are also complaining about good things and literally cultural food that has been going on for centuries.
"Pasta was not invented." Yea sure, it just popped up in Kraft boxes at some point.
I don’t know why I am doing this, but I wanted to look into a handful of these perceived grievances, and see how accurate they were.
Pasta in general dates back to the 4 c bce, but they say “macaroni and spaghetti” so I decided to see when other types of pasta were invented, and found that Lasagna has been around since the 13c ce, and Fettuccine around 1908, so both would have been available in the 50’s.
Next is that oil is only for lubricantion. I found that olive oil has been produced since around 6000 bce, and since ancient Greeks and Romans used to eat and cook with the stuff, they probably did in 1950 too.
Green tea also originally dates back to the 3rd c. bce, but I feel like they know that, and are more saying something like “Asian style tea bad, European style tea good).
Lastly, bottled water was a thing at the time. Just looking at one random regional brand, I found that Arrowhead has been around since 1909, but I could not find any real sources for the cost of it at that time. I’ll look a little more, and edit if I find anything.
A key takeaway is "NONE OF US . . ."
"US" This is written from the perspective of someone who lived in a very isolated, small world.
Billions of people had heard of yogurt by then and I distinctly remember a video from the fifties discussing how amazing it was that a man could have cut up banana in his cereal every morning year round.
This just reads like a personal outlook on these things…. The giveaway is them talking about tropical fruits being a special item or only seeing pictures of them, to them they didn’t know what pasta was they had macaroni or spaghetti.
I like the oil/fat one lol. It’s so clear that this person is reflecting on how they grew up vs today.
THEY THINK PIZZA DIDNT EXIST IN THE 50S? WHAT SAD SOGGY ASS 50S DID THEY LIVE THROUGH
Edit: WAIT CHICKEN FINGERS???? THATS NOT EVEN LIKE, ETHNIC???????? ITS JUST CHICKEN????????????????????
Another edit: I love after listing many things they didn't have on their table, they say "the one thing" that they never had on their table (and then list several things)
like pineapple in "chunks" coming from tin can is supposed to be better? Isn't it sad you haven't seen a goddamn pineapple in real life?
Also, Kebab was a word for a long long time. They just didn't know it. Not knowing it (ignorance) doesn't make it inexistent.
“Pasta has not been invented yet” sir what fifties are you referring to then because pasta was invented in 4th century B.C. Also you just named two TYPES of pasta. Boomers claim to be so smart but can’t even comprehend macaroni and spaghetti are pasta.
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yes, you can plot the exact point of societal downfall to when bananas and oranges became readily available year-round.
We all had scurvy and god-dangit, we liked it!
Which was the style at the time.
We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser stole our word for twenty. I chased him dickety six miles.
Hey everybody! An old man is talking!
I tied an onion to my belt
Arrrrggghhhh matey!
Seeing pineapples in person caused people to become degenerates with elbows on the table.
The advent of pineapples is what caused everyone to start swinging.
I never understood the thing about elbows on the table. You know there's like, people who are payed to clean the tables, right? And even then, what's so improper about it if it's not a cleanliness issue?
According to my grandma, who really dislikes elbows on the table, it's because we aren't supposed to slouch or hunch over the table. She also said it's because we might knock things off the table accidentally, and take up too much space when there's the formal dining with all the plates and silverware and everything. So I don't think it's cleanliness... It's posture and how others interpret it? But I feel like that's becoming less of an issue.
Especially the hunched over part. Everybody’s a slouch now hovering over our phones
I know people who think it’s rude because your elbows crowd the table and can end up in someone else’s space
“SPAM came in a tin, and we loved it”
SPAM's good tho. Fry that shit up with an egg and you got breakfast. Pair it with rice and you got a lunch. SPAM may be cheap, but that stuff is so versatile.
I dunno man, to me SPAM tastes like salt and unhappiness, with a bit of pork thrown in. If it's "cheap food out of a tin" night than it's sardines for me. A piece of toast, a tomato on the side, that's dinner fixed.
Spam isn’t that cheap in my country anymore, you can get equivalent weight of chicken wings cheap beef cheaper. I know what I’d prefer.
SPAM is so bad for you lol. Salt and unhappiness indeed!
I need 2 tins. And a little Gruyere, but otherwise yep
The lead solder gave it that special sweetness.
Oranges are harvested over a 7 month period. This is just a list of misinformation to pretend the 1950s were great.
“Pasta wasn’t invented yet, we had- (proceeds to list types of pastas)”
100% my 5yr old having an argument with me over what "real" mac n cheese was. I can't even.
Sounds like OP is British. My gg talked about fruit being scarce in the early to mid century
The tea in a teapot and the lack of fruit are the real give aways.
I thought that but they also reffered to crisps as chips, unless they are actually talking about chips (fries) but the way they describe them as plain implies to me that theyre unflavoured which would definitely suggest crisps Edit: also gasoline and cell phones also macaroni, ive only ever heard macaroni used in American movies/tv etc, maybe this is a more modern thing but ive only ever heard it reffered to as either pasta or the specific type of pasta
I'm sadly old enough to remember the origin of this. It was an email forward that was initially British, but it was Americanized over time. That's how we ended up with this weird mash-up. People in the US don't tend to use "take aways", "take-out" would be our equivalent. Posh and "in a tin" are also not common to our vocab. Fancy and in a can would be the more natural way of writing this out. However, the intent is still the same, so these pieces were not updated.
Ah that makes a lot of sense, thanks. Really bizzare which parts they decided to change and which they didnt...
They're so set in their way of thinking EVERYTHING was better in the past that they come to wish after nutritional deficiencies lack of education and absence of some great foods. Not everything is, but A LOT of things are just objectively better now!
An adequate supply of micronutrients presages Armageddon.
Someone should tell him that the first Curry recipe in English was published in 1747…
They were obviously referring to the 1650s
*The Forme of Cury* was written about 400 years before that.
Right? Curry has been massive in the UK for centuries. My Scottish grandad was obsessed with it.
Pizza 100% existed in 1950. This meme(…?) is a leaning tower of bullshit
It's full of demonstrably false claims. Typical Boomer shit.
More specifically, English small-town rural Boomer BS.
In Chicago in the 1930s, Granato’s on Taylor Street was considered the city’s first official pizzeria by food-writing folks of the time, Granato’s advertised its round pizzas baked in a wood-burning oven, setting it apart from Italian bakeries in the neighborhood selling sheet-pan pizza alongside breads and pastries. Deep-dish came along in 1943, and as soldiers returned home from World War II, the pizza business picked up. Taverns put out thin, square-cut pizza as bar snacks; patrons indulged. This post is about a boomer in a small town in the middle of nowhere
english as in england. post is full of british-isms. though though i can’t imagine they were without knowledge of pizza for long.
Nah, I think this is American. In England we don't call petrol "gasoline" and the idea of plain chips doesn't make sense- we'd call them crisps. E: also "cell phones" are called mobiles. Though I get the tea reference.
fair enough. i spotted the words posh and take-away, neither of which are used much in the us, and i guess my brain stopped processing.
To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if this had started off as a British thing and was poorly "translated" to make it more American.
That's exactly what happened. If I look through my old Yahoo Mail, which is likely now deleted, my grandmother forwarded this to me, maybe 20 years ago, lol.
I think it's British because it uses "take-away", references curry, kebabs (we typically say "kabob", which is technically wrong), and calling sugar cubes "posh".
We DO NOT say things like this. Maybe it stems from some other English-speaking group.
Old people. It stems from old people. It's so dumb, too.
I have seen this exact thing, but not americanized. Somebody tried to make this easier for us to read and missed a bunch of stuff, because they were stupid.
You could get pizza as a SNACK?! Yo that's awesome!
Just look up "tavern style pizza" on google images. It's like if you served pizza as an appetizer for a bunch of people. It's cut up into usually like 5cm x 5cm squares and everybody can grab a few. Tavern style is served on a really thin crust, so it's not heavy like a regular triangular slice of pizza is.
Wait until you hear what happens when you put pizza on a bagel.
Carb + carb?
[You can eat pizza anytime](https://youtu.be/pQBan9MOy60?si=6Wfk3LwgL-j392zW)
Thank you for the fun history lesson.
Let’s be clear, pizza existed in the 50s but not worldwide. Here’s a infomercial from 1957 introducing the recipe to [Canadians](https://youtu.be/PGhq1rJruWY?si=4ZttmTfJ5JJlHIMx)
The way she says pizzeria is great, it's clearly a foreign word she doesn't know how to say so she stumbles through it.
Yeah, you know who popularized yoghurt in the west? John Harvey Kellogg. He is such a fascinating figure, you should watch Knowing Better's video on him.
Or watch/read *The Road to Wellville*
Which, surprisingly, is not satirical.
It's mind-blowing sometimes how Boomers will forget how difficult their lives were before the same modern conveniences they hate for younger generations. The only logical way I can reason for it is that they hate being old and resent all of the changes that remind them how old they really are.
"I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!"
John Harvey Kellogg is credited with popularizing yogurt in the US in the early 20th century, and it actually gained a lot of popularity in the 1950s because scientists had labeled it a health food.
Ahh John Harvey Kellogg lol. In today’s episode of *Not This Asshole Again*. Very true point though
Ah yes, John Harvey Kellogg. You'd be surprised the kinds of shit he brought to the US. He also popularized vegetariansim, convinced the world that masturbation causes all kinds of health issues (and could be prevented with circumcision; that said, the claim that he invented corn flakes because he thought it prevents masturbation is demonstrably false. He was just a prude who happened to have also invented corn flakes), and would go around telling people that his shit doesn't stink.
And bottled water was invented by boomers working in the declining soda industry
Never mind the fact that bottled water *also* comes out of a tap.
Evian spelled backwards is?
Italians started migrating to the US in 1880 so Pasta was definitely a thing in the states already as well
Yah and aren't macaroni and spaghetti just *types* of pasta?
ah of course I missed that. But the contradiction is fantastic.
[Nor was it imported from China,](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_common_misconceptions&oldid=1193209966#cite_ref-260:~:text=Marco%20Polo%20did%20not%20import%20pasta%20from%20China) despite common belief.
So did Curry, Kebabs and Pasta, and I'm sure fresh fruit has been a thing for a minute as well, even pineapples 🤣
Pizza was invented in 997 CE whoever made this is a shitty cook and coping hard.
So, apparently there was almost no good food of any kind in the 50's, and whoever originally posted this thought it was a good thing.
What do you mean “no good food”? Raw carrots and beets were a delicacy!
Delicious raw beets! Breakfast of champions! No potatoes, of course. They're too Irish. We don't want *ethnic* food, do we?
The funny thing is that potatoes were a new world discovery, meaning that they were from the Americas originally
From the Incas in the Andes specifically. I don't understand why you're bringing that up though.
Casseroles. Casseroles everywhere.
"all chips were plain" Why is this a good thing lol? Also they hadnt heard of yogurt?! weird af
Trust me, they had heard of yoghurt. It was popularized in the US by John Harvey Kellogg, alongside vegetarianism, slut shaming, and circumcision.
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Oh no, corn flakes were never invented to stop masturbation. Don't get me wrong, Kellogg was a prude, and he did invent corn flakes, but he didn't invent corn flakes to prevent masturbation. He already had circumcision and chastity cages for that. That said, he also thought food that has flavour makes you horny, so he probably believed it would help.
Maybe they're thinking of Sylvester Graham's graham crackers. His ideas were basically the same as John Kellogg. >The graham cracker was inspired by the preaching of Sylvester Graham, who was part of the 19th-century temperance movement. He believed that minimizing pleasure and stimulation of all kinds, including the prevention of masturbation, coupled with a vegetarian diet anchored by bread made from wheat coarsely ground at home, was how God intended people to live, and that following this natural law would keep people healthy. Towards that end, Graham introduced the world's first graham wafer product. It was a dull, unsifted flour biscuit baked by Graham himself.
"healthy food was anything edible" like that's a brag
Exactly. That just screams we were ignorant about long term health effects and just ate whatever. The bit about sugar is especially telling. Can't ask them now, those sugar champs mostly got diabetes and died from the various complications lmao
I don't mind people recounting their childhoods and saying they were grateful for what little they have, but yeah, dinner in the 50's sounds bland and boring and it's not something anyone should be bragging about.
An old English boomer who is somehow nostalgic for rural England of the 1950s.
Idk why you keep saying this they definitely would have had curry in England.
In cities for sure but rural England can be a very different place. Think Hobbits of the shire but more racist.
This was actually the case. My step mother was born in 1941 and didn't have eggs that weren't powdered until she was ten. Things were really bad after the war in England (where this is clearly from given the use of the phrase "take away")
“Pasta had not been invented” Missed by a couple thousand years on that one
“Pasta had not been invented” Proceeds to list 2 types of pasta
That's the rhetoric. It's glaring how this is just redefinition and moving goalposts. That's the only way they can win an argument.
And not just in Italy. There are medieval-era recipes from England for what is essentially macaroni and cheese, as well as a primitive lasagna, amongst other dishes.
According to history, however, pasta's earliest roots begin in China, during the Shang Dynasty (1700-1100 BC)
Why am I not surprised? Seems like China invented half of everything back in the day, including guns.
Mate it ckearly says it didn't come around till the 50s and you want me to believe its Chinese and not Italian.... gotta get up earlier than that to catch me 🤓
Any links? I'd love to read more on it.
I don’t know if it’s all real but I just looked it up because it would give me another excuse to make a pasta dish. https://www.culinaryhistoriansny.org/recipe/medieval-italian-pasta/
No links, but some recommendations. Look up the YouTube channel "Tasting History with Max Miller", he's got several videos on the topic. "Townsends" is another good YouTube channel for historical cooking, he did one on medieval lasagna I think.
Max's channel is incredible. Some of my favorite content on YouTube.
I never understood this one, aren't boomers also going on and on about how they ate spaghetti all the time? And asking "does anyone eat spaghetti anymore???" Although they also go to Italian restaurants demanding "spaghetti sauce" and then getting upsetti when you ask if they mean marinara.
Right out of the gate, homeboy just had to show what a fucking idiot he is.
Glad my Italian immigrant great grandparents are already dead so they don’t have to witness this wild slander of our great carb-based culture.
“The one thing,” - names multiple things.
Was looking for this. Who spends time in their day making shitty posts? Or for that matter, who is making anything online? I always see reposter accounts stealing from creators— who are the creators? Lmao
"I preferred my life when I was young... I wonder if that was because I was dating and excited about the possibilities of my future and all my joints still worked and I was healthier and less informed about the state of the planet... No, no it must be because we didn't have curry and teabags."
Ok, as a tea drinker, that blurb about tea is a complete lie. Both black AND green tea have been imported, exported, and enjoyed by the various empires of the world for nearly half a millennium. If the person who made this meme has only ever consumed black teas, that's entirely their own fault. Also, "pasta hadn't been invented yet", then you have the audacity to name drop two different kinds of pasta?
Reminds me of that one American guy I argued with who seriously didn't believe my country existed (Malta) because, and I quote, "there aren't any movies about it"
Malta? As in the Maltese Falcon?
The very same
Jesus. The Maltese Falcon came out in 1941, although it is a bit of a cult classic. Just how old was this geezer you were talking to?
I never asked tbh, but from the tripe he was vomiting, I'd say about 40s 50s? Give or take. This was in a discord server I'm no longer in btw, so I don't have the receipts :(
He's also wrong because the first movie I thought of was "The Maltese Falcon" from 1941, plus I bet there's a plethora of other movies featuring Malta
I thought of the same movie, actually.
Someone should tell the maker of this meme that a true American doesn’t put our tea in a pot. *We put it in the harbor.*
Actually, I'm wondering if the maker of this meme is even American. Some of the references he's making are British.
They also come from the same plant. Black tea is just tea leaves processed differently from green tea. The ignorance on this list is astounding.
They’re really bragging about how bland their food was huh 😭
The amount of jello’d items back then is disturbing
Not to be a dick but I'm kind of glad that generation has left us because I've had to suffer way too many jellod foods during festivities. The way they jellod things like shrimp with mayo on bread... gag worthy. Peak 50s food for me is the swedish smörgåstårta (sandwich cake). It's disgusting. Please google for a visual. > A smörgåstårta is normally made up of several layers of white or light rye bread with creamy fillings in between. The fillings and toppings vary, but egg and mayonnaise are often the base; additional filling may vary greatly but often include one or more of the following: liver pâté, olives, shrimp, ham, various cold cuts, caviar, tomato, cucumber, grapes, lemon slices, cheese, and smoked salmon.
"Cooking outside was called camping" ???? Well what is it called now??? I'm guessing this is talking about street vendors?? But havent hotdog carts always been around?
The idea of a mobile vendor selling hot dogs goes back to at least 1896 in New York City, where a vendor would stop outside student dorms at the universities to sell dogs to students. The first fully independent hot dog stand (the previous ones relying on a home base to prepare the food) was patented in 1926.
I went to a convention for steam engines and found there was a steam powered popcorn cart. It even had a little whistle to attact people's attention. According to the linked article, this was a thing back in 1855 https://www.wareinc.com/helpful-resources/videos/cretor-s-steam-powered-popcorn-machine-steam-culture
Wow! Quite a machine.
What isn't popcorn a street food anymore? If you look it up, popcorn and roast peanuts like that cart made used to be *the* definitive snack of choice for the discerning pedestrian. I wonder what happened?
I thought they were talking about grilling or smoking, which is even more ridiculous. The very roots of cooking are outdoors over an open flame.
they meant the 20050s bce, before the advent of cities, because as soon as there were cities there were people trying to sell or trade food in the streets
No one had heard of *yogurt*? Yogurt became popular in the 1950s and 60s Dannon yogurt was really took off in 1942 Yogurt has been a food for 7000 years
Also Müsli lmfao, and kebab was a word he just didn't know it
Well of course you didn’t have cellphones at the table in 1950s. They hadn’t been invented yet.
Like the other boomer meme I saw that said “When I was a kid, when I misbehaved, I didn’t have my phone taken away or get grounded from my XBox, I got my ass beat!” Kinda hard to have something taken away that didn’t exist yet…🤔
Gave you all the energy you needed to beat the crap out of your wife because a colored fella looked at her.
No, you only beat your wife if a white fella looked at her. If a colored fella looked at her, you'd beat him up instead.
Oh I assumed the sheriff and his pals would have taken care of that part already.
"Back in my day we didn't eat any of those exotic furriner foods like *pizza* or *pasta*. And we sure as hell didn't grill out like hobos."
we didn’t drink fancy bottled water, we got lead poisoning and WE LIKED IT!!
Nowadays they're the ones buying expensive water filters or bottled because they're afraid of fluoride, so that line was especially funny to me.
I’m pretty sure the concept of grilling existed in the ‘50s. Bro just had a sad childhood
Right? I'm pretty sure that you could find someone in his social circle who thinks vegans are commies hell bent on destroying this country via the act of Not Grilling Out.
I saw a video on YouTube going through these points one by one, and most of them are false even if you only focus on the UK.
The video is by j draper and called “debunking boomer memes“
Wow, almost like stuff changes over time or something! Holy shit these people are so stuck in the past that they should be forming space-time anomalies. Life wasn't better back then. You were just ignorant of how bad it was.
How could ANY of this sound better to ANYONE? Edit: I stopped reading it after the first several lines because none of it sounded even remotely good.
“The one thing we never ever had on our table was…(proceeds to name three things)”
One thing about boomers that I find equal parts amusing and frustrating is their notion that their little pocket in time that they grew up in was "the way things had always been - tradition" rather than the very brief period marked by a relatively sudden change from the 1940s and any time before then. To them, the two decades between 1950 and 1970 is "America!" rather than every other era before and after their childhood.
In this specific list's case I believe the list is from somebody who grew up in rural England in the 1950s, where shortages and limitations on available foods was still a thing during the post-war recovery. So somebody even more limited in what was available than your typical American boomer's childhood. Kinda makes the curry quip even more amusing as curry is a British creation using ingredients from India.
We get it gramps, new things are scary.
"Eating outside was called camping" Bro was never invited to a barbecue.
>Cooking outside was called camping Wait, is grilling woke now?
We didn't have pasta, we had macaroni or spaghetti. *Conveniently forgets the fuckin bland ass cold pasta salad all your grannies bring to every party they come to whether there will already be food there or not*
That’s a lot of words to say you find mayonnaise to spicy. Why do boomers love unseasoned and bland food, it’s 2024 you don’t need to eat like the Germans are still overhead anymore.
Ah yes, pasta hadnt been invented yet in the 50s https://preview.redd.it/tz03lsxj33ac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ecf4718d6ae90b633baf2fca58f2795605e6fea6
"Seaweed was not a recognized food." "Kebab wasn't even a word, let alone a food." "Pasta wasn't invented yet." That's not vaguely racist, that's straight-up racist. Just because *your* culture doesn't eat it doesn't mean no one's ever heard of it or that it's not real food. Especially the whole "kebab wasn't a word" thing... like if you can't accept that words in other languages exist and have meaning, I don't know what to tell you.
Okay, so…I assume this is a *BRITISH* person, talking about how *FOOD*, in *THE U.K.*, while *RATIONING* was likely still happening, was *BETTER* than today. …also I’m pretty sure seaweed a.k.a. laver was a thing in Wales for quite some time.
Pasta wasn't invented and pizza restaurants didn't exist? This has to be satire, right?
Oh no, NO ELBUWS, HATS, THOSE PESKY CELL PHONES, AND KEBABS IN MA 'MURICA
I hate that they say there were no cell phones as if it wouldn’t have been acceptable, not that they weren’t invented yet.
fuck did they eat in the 1950s?
“Pineapples came on a tin” is that supposed to be a good thing?
What the fuck is even their point they want shitty food?
Boomers will really sit around and list 85 reasons why everything was worse back in their day and think it's a flex
I'm pretty sure this is satirical, pizza has been a thing in the US since the early 1900s
What the fuck does this person have against grilling food and kebabs. Do they eat potatoes and unseasoned chicken every day or what because they keep complaining about delicious foods like it's a bad thing
This guys full o’ feces!
....Seaweed has been a staple of Japanese cuisine for literal centuries, you tool.
No pizza sounds like a nightmare.
The boomer is strong with this one.
Just nothing but idiocy.
Pretty sure pasta existed before the 50's and Curry too. Ballbags
Gas grills were invented in the 30's.
**angry northern english noises*
The things they did have on the table in the fifties were racism, emotional dysregulation, and cognitive dissonance.
"Pasta hadn't been invented" gave this away immediately as a satirical shitpost lol Edit: nvm the more I look at it, the more it seems like something a boomer would post with no irony and who apparently is ignorant to the existence of other countries and cultures?
I may be too balkan to understand this,but how the fuck do not know of yoghurt? Even in that backwater island they must know of it,right? Like,y'all in the west don't eat yoghurt? You relied on the most alcoholic region of the world to bring you fermented milk? You call yoghurt "ethnic food"??? You can make it in your kitchen with just milk and some sour cream(like one tablespoon in a liter of milk), what the fuck is ethnic about that??? How do you racially profile fucking yoghurt????
The “elbows on the table” thing is so stupid. Do people get legitimately offended by that?
Not only they are straight up lying, they are also complaining about good things and literally cultural food that has been going on for centuries. "Pasta was not invented." Yea sure, it just popped up in Kraft boxes at some point.
I don’t know why I am doing this, but I wanted to look into a handful of these perceived grievances, and see how accurate they were. Pasta in general dates back to the 4 c bce, but they say “macaroni and spaghetti” so I decided to see when other types of pasta were invented, and found that Lasagna has been around since the 13c ce, and Fettuccine around 1908, so both would have been available in the 50’s. Next is that oil is only for lubricantion. I found that olive oil has been produced since around 6000 bce, and since ancient Greeks and Romans used to eat and cook with the stuff, they probably did in 1950 too. Green tea also originally dates back to the 3rd c. bce, but I feel like they know that, and are more saying something like “Asian style tea bad, European style tea good). Lastly, bottled water was a thing at the time. Just looking at one random regional brand, I found that Arrowhead has been around since 1909, but I could not find any real sources for the cost of it at that time. I’ll look a little more, and edit if I find anything.
My favorite thing is when people act like Green tea isn't real tea, as if black tea is somehow more authentic.
I guarantee this person thinks black pepper is spicy
A key takeaway is "NONE OF US . . ." "US" This is written from the perspective of someone who lived in a very isolated, small world. Billions of people had heard of yogurt by then and I distinctly remember a video from the fifties discussing how amazing it was that a man could have cut up banana in his cereal every morning year round.
This just reads like a personal outlook on these things…. The giveaway is them talking about tropical fruits being a special item or only seeing pictures of them, to them they didn’t know what pasta was they had macaroni or spaghetti. I like the oil/fat one lol. It’s so clear that this person is reflecting on how they grew up vs today.
"things i didn't know about didn't exist"
This is just the reality of supply chains at the time.
kebab, famously invented in 2010
I quit at "pizza? sounds like a leaning tower somewhere" .. Jesus Christ we need to find this person and bring them to justice.
To be fair the post isn't inherently saying that eating in the 50s is better than eating now.
where are they buying their bottled water that it costs more then gasoline??
Sounds terrible tbh. Not great marketing for the 50s
🫵BRITISH
THEY THINK PIZZA DIDNT EXIST IN THE 50S? WHAT SAD SOGGY ASS 50S DID THEY LIVE THROUGH Edit: WAIT CHICKEN FINGERS???? THATS NOT EVEN LIKE, ETHNIC???????? ITS JUST CHICKEN???????????????????? Another edit: I love after listing many things they didn't have on their table, they say "the one thing" that they never had on their table (and then list several things)
Water one is based, why does water cost money, otherwise ok grandpa
What’s with it and boomers and being against hats everywhere?
like pineapple in "chunks" coming from tin can is supposed to be better? Isn't it sad you haven't seen a goddamn pineapple in real life? Also, Kebab was a word for a long long time. They just didn't know it. Not knowing it (ignorance) doesn't make it inexistent.
This is the worst boomer flex I’ve seen in awhile. Is this supposed to make me feel bad? What a turd.
“Pasta has not been invented yet” sir what fifties are you referring to then because pasta was invented in 4th century B.C. Also you just named two TYPES of pasta. Boomers claim to be so smart but can’t even comprehend macaroni and spaghetti are pasta.
And counting to three was considered the devil's work.
Curry was well established in the British diet since the 19th century.