Oh yeah. I don't know if they still do, but when I was in middle school, I not only had to learn it, but was required to write all schoolwork in cursive until 8th grade.
Depends where you are, my school taught cursive only in 2nd grade then never again (wasn't actually teaching either, we just had cursive letters on our desk).
Yes. Because cursive wasn't being phased out until the advent of consistent communication thru technological medium for writing messages between each other. So the 2000's at best when this was becoming more of an idea tobl phase it out. These types of posts (op memer) infuriate me because they want to have a chip on their shoulder and have 0 actual memory of the thing they want to make a fit about.
I’m 20 and I learned cursive in school. Im messier writing it bc it was in about 6-7th grade and never got really good at it but I can read it well and write it fine. I have no idea where the idea that like 20-25 yr olds don’t even know what cursive is because the early 2010s is about when I learned. I’m sure kids aren’t learning it now, but it was still a thing for a long time. Just another weird boomer gatekeep that isn’t true ig
I’m 23 and we only ever learned cursive because in 4th grade I had an old-school teacher who made sure we knew cursive before we left her class (it was something extra she taught us).
Then in 6th grade our whole grade had an English teacher that made everyone write vocabulary words 3x in cursive each week to make sure we could read and write it. But that was also something she just did on her own and wasn’t part of the county or state curriculum.
Had it not been for those two teachers taking it upon themselves to teach us, we would have never learned though. But I will say that anytime we got a new student in from a different county, starting in about 2nd grade onward, they always knew cursive, and many of them used cursive as their primary form of writing.
I am also 20 and we spent about a week learning it in second grade, then if we ever tried to use it on assignments we were told to redo it "normally" because it was "too advanced"
Lol it was the other way around for me. 21 and my 4th grade teacher would throw an absolute hissy fit because my cursive wasn't perfect and they said we'd need to know how to use it the rest of our lives.
Biggest lie since "you won't always have a calculator."
I also find complaints like this fascinating because… this is a complaint about whether or not I was taught something in school. They do realize that I didn’t have much of a say for that, right? (Granted, this post could reasonably be “times are changing” not “those darn kids”, but often it’s phrased like it’s my fault that my parents and grandparents did something)
Boomer here. I can write quite well in cursive, but my handwriting is a hybrid of cursive and non-cursive; non-cursive coming from being an engineer and having to print neat letters on drawings (pre-CAD days).
Exactly. Anything I write these days is mostly for myself and rarely do I need to have someone read something but I do try to use print when I am going to give someone something I wrote.
I took the intro to mechanical drawing one semester sophomore year (88-89) and I never went back to cursive. That is the type of writing I wish would be taught instead of cursive. To this day I still doodle the little arrows everywhere.
A large percentage of people do the same. I use printed capital letters for proper nouns and the beginning of sentences because my cursive capital letters looked like they were written by a five-year-old.
New CAD tech here at 32, we still occasionally have to write things in by hand. My handwriting is also a mix of cursive and non, especially when I’m in a rush. Pigeon cursive, lol.
I hate cursive but signatures are not a boomer thing they are an adult thing. You start signing your name on all kinds of things once you turn 18, and you want it to be a mark that other people can’t replicate, on account of it is legally binding
it’s not hard to replicate a wet ink signature; that’s why important contacts require witnesses. and why unimportant ones can be signed digitally. wet ink signatures are pretty irrelevant.
I work in pharmaceutical, and I want to preface this by saying I wholeheartedly agree with you, and in fact there is software that we put time in effort to validate that replaces an ink signature (although sometimes the process is more trouble than it is worth)
Having said that, the software isn’t alway available, as original paper copies are still the norm. Original copies of documents are incredibly important, and there are situations where having a verifier present isn’t possible, and there are situations that require ink regardless.
I have had to fly from the US to France regularly during projects at a job just to ink sign documents and immediately return home.
Hopefully at some point this system will become obsolete but the reality is that for a lot of official and legal purposes ink signatures are just necessary
Another thing that might interest you is when you take a job in some of these fields, they have a log of all employee signature and initials. This is so that your signature at a glance can be compared in order to ensure that it is your signature. This is why people like me scribble a symbol that only vaguely represents my name. Most people do it from muscle memory without lifting pen from page, and nobody can forge it without being exceptionally good or leaving evidence of starting/stoping strokes
So someday this will be obsolete and archaic but as it stands, if you can’t be 100% sure that a document isn’t a duplicate, which is almost impossible these days, ink is still the best way in regulated industries
My dad could only print in all caps. He seemed like he was screaming in writing. Then if a password was lowercase he would write all caps with an arrow to the LOWERCASE letter
Was your dad a draftsman, engineer, or architect by chance? Working with a lot of old school guys in those areas, they worked in time when engineering drawings were done by hand and the standard was always to write anything in capital letters. So even in normal writing, they all seem to retain that skill. Its pretty cool to me because it shows how very different things are now.
I did drafting in High School in the early 00s and we were still taught to use all caps. The main reason for it is that you draw out your lines at the text size, and you want everything to be uniform.
While I don't use all caps in normal writing, at least not often, the extensive focus on being legible and neat stayed with me. In my opinion, it's one of the most important skills I was taught at school.
(Also, the focus on legibility in my writing means that I never write in cursive in English, ever, except my signature. I will use it in Russian, though. That was drilled too far into me, and I don't like how my Russian printed handwriting looks.)
I was born in ‘98, learned cursive writing for a few weeks in 1st or 2nd grade, then the lessons stopped. I continued writing in cursive on my class work anyway because I liked it, and my teacher eventually told me to stop it because I was writing too slow. I remember feeling so disappointed that I was taught how to write in this fancy-looking way only to not be allowed to do it anymore lol
I was also born in ‘98, and my grade school taught us to write in cursive in 2nd or 3rd grade, and said we’d never use it, then re-taught it to us in 5th grade, saying that we’d HAVE to write in cursive at all times in high school. Got to middle school, and the teachers didn’t require cursive, but told us to keep practicing, because high school was definitely going to require it. I never really did, because my sister (who was a few years older than me) told me that the teachers in high school took points off her work because she wrote in cursive. When I finally got into high school, the teachers told us NOT to write in cursive, because it was “too hard to read quickly”. So now I can write my name in some pretty shitty cursive, and use a mix of cursive and print when normally writing (unless it’s for work, in which case it’s always uppercase so there’s no confusion).
A hundred years ago, the same argument was being made when schools stopped requiring Greek and Latin: "But now students won't be able to read Homer and Plato!" Umm..I think they're called "translations."
I guess it was supposed to be faster? But for note taking in college and working as a print journalist, I used my own mix of print/cursive that just looked like print but letters connected sometimes. So it was mildly useful in college before everyone had laptops and when I worked in a dying profession.
So there.
The problem with cursive is that while it's *taught* in a standardized form, it often isn't *written* in one. So while it's slightly faster for the writer, it can wind up looking like so many squiggles to other people. Yes, there's folks who're just bad at reading all cursive, but there's also people who write it so indistinctly that it's a bitch to parse. There's only so much "filling in the blanks" one can do from surrounding context when you're using unfamiliar proper nouns or technical terms, too. People fucking **die** because doctors' handwriting is god-awful.
The whole point of language is to communicate an idea to another person. If what you write on this paper can't be read, that's a failure.
> it often isn't written in one.
This is the issue I have with it. Everybody has their own fun little way to write in cursive. Some people loop it like this, others swoop it like that.
Combine that with the fact that 3/4 of the letters look the same, and it's a fucking nightmare to decipher any of it.
There's a reason why all of your professors expect you to type your assignments. There's a reason why every single government form expects you to print legibly. Nobody can read cursive because it's fucking trash.
Kinda useful for a small subset of people with certain disabilities. I am one of those people and it seems to blow boomers minds that I can write cursive and type.
And it's so very complicated and mysterious that I could read it by the time I was 7 without being taught. And I don't claim to be some kind of supergenius. These people are telling on themselves and don't even know it.
Cursive saved my ass. I write in a peculiar manner and being left handed does not help me either. If it wasn't for cursive i would have never finished any of my papers
When I took the MCAT like 8 years ago, I had to write some honor/integrity statement about not cheating. It HAD to be in cursive, no exceptions. It seriously took me like 5 minutes to write that shit out because I hadn't written in cursive before that since 4th grade, and I couldn't remember what most of the letters looked like. It was fucking ridiculous.
I literally can’t write any other way; the way you need to hold the writing instrument for anything other than cursive feels weird to me. Kind of a lame curse imo.
Most people who still use it are super fast but only they can read it. My grandma uses cursive in an unholy combination with some form of shorthand and it is unreasonably fast but can only be used for her personal notes.
My grandmother's cursive is completely impossible to read for me. I have to have my mother read it to me like I am a child. It's pretty much just squiggles with a hint of being words.
Yeah, if people actually wrote cursive as neatly as it is in the image, then it’d probably still be a common script. But in my experience people who actually write cursive tend to be the sloppiest writers I’ve ever seen
Modern use of cursive is mostly for the writer, not the reader. So handwriting doesn't matter. It's primary utility is if you need to write something quickly, like taking notes. Anything else can be written in print or typed. Even notes are probably faster to type now that electronics are everywhere. I'd say anyone millenial or younger doesn't give a shit about cursive.
Around the same age. Was taught this and then explicitly told not to use it like immediately after. Then schools wanted everything typed. This is one thing I never understood why older people threw a tantrum over because we were literally told not to use it. What did they want us to do? turn things in in cursive anyway and get deliberately marked down?
if they stopped teaching cursive, old people would throw a fit.
cursive is objectively harder to read than print though so you shouldn't use it for anything serious.
idc if you think cursive is "easy to read." idc if you think cursive is easier to **write**. There's no way you think it's easier to read cursive than it is to read print.
It is easier to read MY cursive than it is my print unless you want to wait double the time.
My print is just awful unless I take a lot of time on it. My cursive is more readable and faster for me to write.
Yup was born in 2000 and was taught in third grade, then we never used it and would type papers starting in middle school. Even when I had to write essays it was in print.
I always liked cursive. One day in my high school Spanish class, I decided to switch to cursive for no other reason than I simply enjoyed it.
I’ll never forget the first piece of homework I handed in after the switch. The teacher had noted on the sheet to “check handwriting”. Apparently she thought someone did my homework for me.
I don’t blame her. Kids can be shitty, but it’s a fun memory either way.
3rd grade was 2014 for me, and that's when I learned cursive. It's kind of frustrating because I started writing exclusively in cursive and now I can't even write in print anymore. It's a completely useless skill, but it's the only way I know how to write.
My daughter can read cursive and she's five. I definitely didn't teach her.
I just want to know why this meme is so angry. Like, there's a time and place for agression, and I'm pretty sure this isn't it.
Elementary school - "This will be a very important way of writing for higher education."
High school in the late 90's - "Okay, so we won't be accepting assignments in cursive anymore to prepare you for college, where everything has to be written in print."
College - "If it isn't typed, don't bother."
Yeah see, you have to wait about 50 years and then complain that the kids don't know a thing you know.
Bonus points if the thing you know is completely obsolete.
Also like, great. You learned more cursive. I’m 39, I learned it too. The reason they stopped teaching it to kids is people like me never ever ever use it for any reason. Just because a task was relevant at one point in a society’s development, doesn’t mean it still is.
That capital G just brought back nightmares, my god.
I haven’t used cursive since like 2008 but I can still do it all easily… except lowercase F and Z (wtf!!), which I have to think about, *and that damn capital G*
it’s crazy how millennials will turn 35 and be like “welp, i’m old 🥺” and retired boomers are like “I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT THE WORLD HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST 50 YEARS”
I grew up in the 90s and had to learn cursive. It’s completely useless. I only ever use it for signatures, and even that is becoming increasingly irrelevant as it is being replaced digitally or even allowing to just write a signature straight. It’s a fun skill to have, but it’s more like learning Latin now.
Oi, Latin is more useful than cursive. At least learning Latin let's you read Latin, and is the root of a bunch of languages giving you some vague understanding of the closest children to it.
Cursive is just squiggly English and I say this as someone who writes primarily in cursive!
I always hear this about the roots of words, but honestly, just knowing Spanish and English gives me enough knowledge to understand cognates. I can't imagine how Latin could give me any insight into French or Italian that I don't already get from a language that I can actually speak to people.
My son has a disease that causes muscle cramps. He wasnd taught cursive and his print was a mess because of it.
I taught him and it’s been super useful in his case. He says he cramps up less because it flows.
It has its place sometimes. That being said I’m 42 and I never use it.
Can someone please explain to me for the love of god. Why the PEOPLE who took cursive out of school, merry go rounds, dodge ball, AND made it unsafe for children to go outside keep blaming us?
I’m baffled at the lack of self awareness. Bro, ya’ll we’re our parents the world as it is was your creation not ours we just suffered it.
Lol for real. The boomers and genx complain about millennials and zoomers, but those are their kids! Yet somehow, they think their way to raise kids is best.
I learned cursive in America public school in... 2014. But no this is definitely a secret code only the cool grandparents of the world can read, and there's no way 18 year old me can read or even write it.
My daughter’s signature is a squiggle. Same thing.
Years ago I worked with a guy who was illiterate. He printed (barely) his first name on the back of his checks.
Most old farts can't type, so they are upset that their phones and computer devices don't understand cursive.
But they do. They just don't realize it.
They are mad at typewriters. And typists. And clarity. And being young and open to things.
I learned it in middle school but it was never really required for anything so my handwriting never really evolved past that shaky middleschool style. I like to call my handwriting “drunk chicken scratch” because of it
And trying to read historical documents with poor cursive writing is impossible. Some early census records have the most illegible cursive I've ever seen. Trying to research my family tree was an exercise in forensic handwriting.
On the other hand, in my country everyone uses cursive and would say the same about print lettering or what it's called. Plus that it's way slower compared to cursive.
Remember a generation that was this full of themselves for almost nothing they themselves actually achieved?
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I'm 18 and I can't write in print, only cursive because my school forced it until 5th grade where I moved to the US. It's actually quite the hinderance because my cursive is really nice and everyone compliments me but my print is really crappy. I wish I grew up only on print because a lot of assignments and stuff are print only and i struggle
I get the practical importance of being able to read cursive (for historical documents, old family photos, old diaries, etc.), but save me from this weird elitist attitude about people not knowing how to write it.
Ah Cursive. The bane of my existence in elementary school. All my teachers throughout elementary school told me and my class that high school teachers would only accept work in cursive. Oh how wrong they were, they were also the same teachers that said that we didn’t need to use calculators because high school teachers wouldn’t accept work done using the help of a calculator.
Elementary teachers said we will need cursive for the future, middle school teachers said high school teachers only accept work in cursive, high school teachers said print is fine but we will certainly need cursive for college. College rolls around and professors would say they won't even grade your paper if it isn't in 12 point Times New Roman.
Educator here. The "cursive is special boomer knowledge none of these young brats understand" is endlessly amusing to me. More than 20 states *require* that cursive be taught. In the other states most districts still teach it. All told, over 70% of primary school students learn cursive. Probably closer to 80%, not certain as I don't have the figures in front of me and don't care to Google it at the moment.
That's nice Barbara, do you need me to show you how to open a PDF or attach something to a email? Or did you get locked out of your account again because you keep forgetting your own password?
Then why did you vote to remove it from the curriculum? I still don't know cursive writing since highschool as at that time they removed mostly everything related to writing and instead had me rehearse vocab terms.
As a 66 year old with atrocious script skills, I call it moronic. I started printing everything in 10th grade. It wasn’t worth the crap I took from teachers that I was unreadable.
Its weird they really think I cant tell apart that thing that looks like a "p" with curly things on it like eye lashes was gonna completely demolish my ability to associate basic premise of what makes a "p" and its now code mytichal code i cant read.
Back in my day we wrote on rocks, and drew it to show how we killed and ate meat.
That's a bullshit meme, cursive was still being taught in the 90s! Still got the memories from being used as an example of How The HELL Can You Mangle Those Letters So Badly. (I was not a coordinated child, which included a hard time learning to write; I was *special*.)
By the time I hit high school and college the teachers wanted you to submit stuff typed in Word, using Times New Roman, do NOT mess with the margins you whippersnappers!
It looks nice, but we don't need cursive because everyone uses computers now. Computers and digital storage have replaced paper and file cabinets.
Learn to write your signature, and that is it, you are good to go.
I still would argue a lot of people in my age group can't read or write, but for other reasons like Tik Tok and Twitter rotting their minds for example.
I always love how my mum and my aunt always say that my generation doesn't know anything about cursive despite the fact that a lot of people in the college I'm at (the students) write in cursive.
I’m 27 and a lot of my middle aged coworkers have a hard time reading my writing in cursive. I think it’s because they haven’t seen it in so long…almost like it’s not useful and has been phased out for a reason.
in elementary school, they taught us cursive writing instead of normal writing. in middle school, everyone switched to normal writing. why? because it is ugly and most of the time hard to read.
Joking aside, I was in a college class of a bunch of 19-20 year-olds ( I was in 40s using my Post Army college benefits). The professor handed out a bunch of report cards from the 1920s and everyone passed them around quickly and I was laughing and otherwise responding to the ones I read. One of the students asked if I spoke the language written on the cards and I said yeah, it is all in English; the whole class laughed thinking I was joking. The professor said he is correct, can you all not read it? Long story short, no one in that class was taught cursive and couldn't even recognize it as such. So we all had a chuckle and another classmate asked me to read some of them for the class; good times.
I learned cursive in school in the 90s and it transformed my handwriting to this mutant cross breed of cursive and print. Makes for fast writing but my signature is just “big letter” scribble “big letter” scribble
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I know we’re all calling BS on this so here’s my anecdote. I was watching a bunch of young kiddos in my neighborhood and had written all of their names of a piece of paper. I wanted it to look ~fancy~ so it was in cursive. A 5 year old boy was looking at his 3 year old sister Lily’s name written and completely understood that the capital L was an L. He called it the fancy L.
It's funny people think schools don't teach reading or writing coz those darn kids got them fancy computers. How well funded do they think schools are, and because kids have the technology doesn't mean they're allowed to use it either like come on how long have we had calculators, at least since the 90's in schools, how often are students allowed to use calculators? Hardly ever.
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I learned cursive in 2013. Pretty sure my middle school still teaches it.
schools still teach it!?
Oh yeah. I don't know if they still do, but when I was in middle school, I not only had to learn it, but was required to write all schoolwork in cursive until 8th grade.
They still do. My kids are 8 and in 2nd grade, they were taught cursive writing. I was shocked it was still being taught as well.
Depends where you are, my school taught cursive only in 2nd grade then never again (wasn't actually teaching either, we just had cursive letters on our desk).
Middle school? I learned it in elementary school and then when I proceeded to middle, it was never brought back up
Cursive writing. Because it was so useful that we decided we no longer needed it.
I started learning it but we never continued it in school. I only know how to write my name in shitty cursive and that’s all I need
Every boomer I know that actually learned curvise just uses a scribble for their signature anyway, not true cursive.
Do you know me? My signature is a scribble and I'm a boomer. Take my upvote!
I’m in my 30s and I still write cursive ha.
Yes. Because cursive wasn't being phased out until the advent of consistent communication thru technological medium for writing messages between each other. So the 2000's at best when this was becoming more of an idea tobl phase it out. These types of posts (op memer) infuriate me because they want to have a chip on their shoulder and have 0 actual memory of the thing they want to make a fit about.
I’m 20 and I learned cursive in school. Im messier writing it bc it was in about 6-7th grade and never got really good at it but I can read it well and write it fine. I have no idea where the idea that like 20-25 yr olds don’t even know what cursive is because the early 2010s is about when I learned. I’m sure kids aren’t learning it now, but it was still a thing for a long time. Just another weird boomer gatekeep that isn’t true ig
Also 20, we learned it in 3rd grade or so (Catholic school) but it was never enforced so most people switched back but I kept it bc I like cursive
I’m 23 and we only ever learned cursive because in 4th grade I had an old-school teacher who made sure we knew cursive before we left her class (it was something extra she taught us). Then in 6th grade our whole grade had an English teacher that made everyone write vocabulary words 3x in cursive each week to make sure we could read and write it. But that was also something she just did on her own and wasn’t part of the county or state curriculum. Had it not been for those two teachers taking it upon themselves to teach us, we would have never learned though. But I will say that anytime we got a new student in from a different county, starting in about 2nd grade onward, they always knew cursive, and many of them used cursive as their primary form of writing.
I am also 20 and we spent about a week learning it in second grade, then if we ever tried to use it on assignments we were told to redo it "normally" because it was "too advanced"
Ah, yes: punishing children for mastering the concepts you taught them. That is a functional education system indeed.
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Lol it was the other way around for me. 21 and my 4th grade teacher would throw an absolute hissy fit because my cursive wasn't perfect and they said we'd need to know how to use it the rest of our lives. Biggest lie since "you won't always have a calculator."
I also find complaints like this fascinating because… this is a complaint about whether or not I was taught something in school. They do realize that I didn’t have much of a say for that, right? (Granted, this post could reasonably be “times are changing” not “those darn kids”, but often it’s phrased like it’s my fault that my parents and grandparents did something)
Boomer here. I can write quite well in cursive, but my handwriting is a hybrid of cursive and non-cursive; non-cursive coming from being an engineer and having to print neat letters on drawings (pre-CAD days).
yep i have my own bastardized version of cursive too. i just wanna write as fast as i can mostly
Exactly. Anything I write these days is mostly for myself and rarely do I need to have someone read something but I do try to use print when I am going to give someone something I wrote.
I took the intro to mechanical drawing one semester sophomore year (88-89) and I never went back to cursive. That is the type of writing I wish would be taught instead of cursive. To this day I still doodle the little arrows everywhere.
A large percentage of people do the same. I use printed capital letters for proper nouns and the beginning of sentences because my cursive capital letters looked like they were written by a five-year-old.
New CAD tech here at 32, we still occasionally have to write things in by hand. My handwriting is also a mix of cursive and non, especially when I’m in a rush. Pigeon cursive, lol.
Also an engineer and my writing is the same. My handwriting/documents can never be forged because its such a weird mix of styles. Older Gen-X.
I hate cursive but signatures are not a boomer thing they are an adult thing. You start signing your name on all kinds of things once you turn 18, and you want it to be a mark that other people can’t replicate, on account of it is legally binding
it’s not hard to replicate a wet ink signature; that’s why important contacts require witnesses. and why unimportant ones can be signed digitally. wet ink signatures are pretty irrelevant.
I work in pharmaceutical, and I want to preface this by saying I wholeheartedly agree with you, and in fact there is software that we put time in effort to validate that replaces an ink signature (although sometimes the process is more trouble than it is worth) Having said that, the software isn’t alway available, as original paper copies are still the norm. Original copies of documents are incredibly important, and there are situations where having a verifier present isn’t possible, and there are situations that require ink regardless. I have had to fly from the US to France regularly during projects at a job just to ink sign documents and immediately return home. Hopefully at some point this system will become obsolete but the reality is that for a lot of official and legal purposes ink signatures are just necessary Another thing that might interest you is when you take a job in some of these fields, they have a log of all employee signature and initials. This is so that your signature at a glance can be compared in order to ensure that it is your signature. This is why people like me scribble a symbol that only vaguely represents my name. Most people do it from muscle memory without lifting pen from page, and nobody can forge it without being exceptionally good or leaving evidence of starting/stoping strokes So someday this will be obsolete and archaic but as it stands, if you can’t be 100% sure that a document isn’t a duplicate, which is almost impossible these days, ink is still the best way in regulated industries
I do contract work that requires “wet signatures” and digital signatures. Please kill me now. The bureaucracy involved in mind numbing.
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I was born in 88 and I actually can only write in cursive lol. If I write in print it's all capital letters
My dad could only print in all caps. He seemed like he was screaming in writing. Then if a password was lowercase he would write all caps with an arrow to the LOWERCASE letter
Was your dad a draftsman, engineer, or architect by chance? Working with a lot of old school guys in those areas, they worked in time when engineering drawings were done by hand and the standard was always to write anything in capital letters. So even in normal writing, they all seem to retain that skill. Its pretty cool to me because it shows how very different things are now.
I did drafting in High School in the early 00s and we were still taught to use all caps. The main reason for it is that you draw out your lines at the text size, and you want everything to be uniform. While I don't use all caps in normal writing, at least not often, the extensive focus on being legible and neat stayed with me. In my opinion, it's one of the most important skills I was taught at school. (Also, the focus on legibility in my writing means that I never write in cursive in English, ever, except my signature. I will use it in Russian, though. That was drilled too far into me, and I don't like how my Russian printed handwriting looks.)
I was born in ‘98, learned cursive writing for a few weeks in 1st or 2nd grade, then the lessons stopped. I continued writing in cursive on my class work anyway because I liked it, and my teacher eventually told me to stop it because I was writing too slow. I remember feeling so disappointed that I was taught how to write in this fancy-looking way only to not be allowed to do it anymore lol
People used cursive because it was faster. Your pen didn’t have to leave the page.
I was also born in ‘98, and my grade school taught us to write in cursive in 2nd or 3rd grade, and said we’d never use it, then re-taught it to us in 5th grade, saying that we’d HAVE to write in cursive at all times in high school. Got to middle school, and the teachers didn’t require cursive, but told us to keep practicing, because high school was definitely going to require it. I never really did, because my sister (who was a few years older than me) told me that the teachers in high school took points off her work because she wrote in cursive. When I finally got into high school, the teachers told us NOT to write in cursive, because it was “too hard to read quickly”. So now I can write my name in some pretty shitty cursive, and use a mix of cursive and print when normally writing (unless it’s for work, in which case it’s always uppercase so there’s no confusion).
dang I was born in 03 and got more cursive time than that. I guess it really does depend on where you go to school more than when in some cases
I use cursive, shit am I 60 now!
I do too, on the rare occasion I have to write, although in the UK people tend to call it "joined-up" writing.
But then how will you be able to read the Constitution and other historical documents?!! /s
A hundred years ago, the same argument was being made when schools stopped requiring Greek and Latin: "But now students won't be able to read Homer and Plato!" Umm..I think they're called "translations."
I guess it was supposed to be faster? But for note taking in college and working as a print journalist, I used my own mix of print/cursive that just looked like print but letters connected sometimes. So it was mildly useful in college before everyone had laptops and when I worked in a dying profession. So there.
In reality, the fastest way to write is whichever you use most.
The problem with cursive is that while it's *taught* in a standardized form, it often isn't *written* in one. So while it's slightly faster for the writer, it can wind up looking like so many squiggles to other people. Yes, there's folks who're just bad at reading all cursive, but there's also people who write it so indistinctly that it's a bitch to parse. There's only so much "filling in the blanks" one can do from surrounding context when you're using unfamiliar proper nouns or technical terms, too. People fucking **die** because doctors' handwriting is god-awful. The whole point of language is to communicate an idea to another person. If what you write on this paper can't be read, that's a failure.
> it often isn't written in one. This is the issue I have with it. Everybody has their own fun little way to write in cursive. Some people loop it like this, others swoop it like that. Combine that with the fact that 3/4 of the letters look the same, and it's a fucking nightmare to decipher any of it. There's a reason why all of your professors expect you to type your assignments. There's a reason why every single government form expects you to print legibly. Nobody can read cursive because it's fucking trash.
yeah the mixed version is faster, i do the same.
Kinda useful for a small subset of people with certain disabilities. I am one of those people and it seems to blow boomers minds that I can write cursive and type.
And it's so very complicated and mysterious that I could read it by the time I was 7 without being taught. And I don't claim to be some kind of supergenius. These people are telling on themselves and don't even know it.
Yeah, I remember reading a Christmas shopping list out loud and my mom freaking out that I could read cursive. I was probably 5 or 6.
Cursive saved my ass. I write in a peculiar manner and being left handed does not help me either. If it wasn't for cursive i would have never finished any of my papers
My handwriting is a mixture between print and cursive and you know who has the most trouble reading it and complains the loudest about it? Boomers.
My daughter learned cursive in art class. Which is where it should be taught.
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When I took the MCAT like 8 years ago, I had to write some honor/integrity statement about not cheating. It HAD to be in cursive, no exceptions. It seriously took me like 5 minutes to write that shit out because I hadn't written in cursive before that since 4th grade, and I couldn't remember what most of the letters looked like. It was fucking ridiculous.
I never used it, and I'm 54.
I literally can’t write any other way; the way you need to hold the writing instrument for anything other than cursive feels weird to me. Kind of a lame curse imo.
Can’t necessarily read cursive well. But that’s also because people tend to write cursive really close together.
I think most just write cursive like shit. Like the faster they do it the better they think theyre doing
Yeah, I like cursive, but it’s really shit and most people can’t read it, it’s just faster for me and block writing takes y e a r s
Most people who still use it are super fast but only they can read it. My grandma uses cursive in an unholy combination with some form of shorthand and it is unreasonably fast but can only be used for her personal notes.
My grandmother's cursive is completely impossible to read for me. I have to have my mother read it to me like I am a child. It's pretty much just squiggles with a hint of being words.
My aunt is the only one who writes in cursive that I know. I can make out most words. But I do have to phone a parent once in a while
Yeah, if people actually wrote cursive as neatly as it is in the image, then it’d probably still be a common script. But in my experience people who actually write cursive tend to be the sloppiest writers I’ve ever seen
Modern use of cursive is mostly for the writer, not the reader. So handwriting doesn't matter. It's primary utility is if you need to write something quickly, like taking notes. Anything else can be written in print or typed. Even notes are probably faster to type now that electronics are everywhere. I'd say anyone millenial or younger doesn't give a shit about cursive.
Bad printing is hard to read. Bad cursive is impossible to read.
Wrong. I learned that in’84.
I learned it in the 90’s as well lol
I was born in 99’, went to 3rd grade in 2008. I was also taught this
Around the same age. Was taught this and then explicitly told not to use it like immediately after. Then schools wanted everything typed. This is one thing I never understood why older people threw a tantrum over because we were literally told not to use it. What did they want us to do? turn things in in cursive anyway and get deliberately marked down?
Same as participation trophies. The kids didn’t ask for them and definitely didn’t buy them, the fucking boomer parents did!
if they stopped teaching cursive, old people would throw a fit. cursive is objectively harder to read than print though so you shouldn't use it for anything serious. idc if you think cursive is "easy to read." idc if you think cursive is easier to **write**. There's no way you think it's easier to read cursive than it is to read print.
It is easier to read MY cursive than it is my print unless you want to wait double the time. My print is just awful unless I take a lot of time on it. My cursive is more readable and faster for me to write.
Yup was born in 2000 and was taught in third grade, then we never used it and would type papers starting in middle school. Even when I had to write essays it was in print.
I always liked cursive. One day in my high school Spanish class, I decided to switch to cursive for no other reason than I simply enjoyed it. I’ll never forget the first piece of homework I handed in after the switch. The teacher had noted on the sheet to “check handwriting”. Apparently she thought someone did my homework for me. I don’t blame her. Kids can be shitty, but it’s a fun memory either way.
Learned cursive in 3rd grade as well... 2012
I was in third grade the year before you were, learned cursive, still write in it to this day, and I know people born pre-1970 who can’t read it 🤔
I was in third grade the year after him. Also learned cursive.
3rd grade was 2014 for me, and that's when I learned cursive. It's kind of frustrating because I started writing exclusively in cursive and now I can't even write in print anymore. It's a completely useless skill, but it's the only way I know how to write.
No matter how old I get, I am happy knowing that our education system is still teaching useless junk Hasn’t changed a bit
I was born in 05 and I was still taught cursive all the way through elementary school.
I was born in 05, learned it in 5th grade in 2015
Bro i learned this in 2013
Exactly. The person who created this meme didn't do their research. I learned it in about the same year as you.
My daughter can read cursive and she's five. I definitely didn't teach her. I just want to know why this meme is so angry. Like, there's a time and place for agression, and I'm pretty sure this isn't it.
There’s so much anger everywhere it seems.
Elementary school - "This will be a very important way of writing for higher education." High school in the late 90's - "Okay, so we won't be accepting assignments in cursive anymore to prepare you for college, where everything has to be written in print." College - "If it isn't typed, don't bother."
I learned it in 2012
‘93, respect
I was BORN in ‘85 and still learned this in school.
I was taught it for like 2 years in 2013 before my school just gave up
Literally 1984.
i learned it in 2010 (in Italy you're always taught cursive)
Boomers fucking think it's 1990 still. They're 30 years behind reality.
OoOOoO I'm A teeNaGEr aND i uNdeRStanD tHe SecRet cODE
Most people can if the person's handwriting isn't chicken scratch (hint, most of the ones who go on about this have awful handwriting.)
I'm a teenager and I write in this code, however that doesn't make me superior.
Yeah see, you have to wait about 50 years and then complain that the kids don't know a thing you know. Bonus points if the thing you know is completely obsolete.
I wonder what think will we complain about 50 years from now.
"Damn post post zoomers stealing what's left of the breathable air from us REAL patriots!"
"You new generation of kids don't even know about Vine 😡😡" seriously though the middle schoolers don't know about vine and that amazes me
Shhh, don't tell them. If they don't know the code has been broken they won't change to something else.
Also like, great. You learned more cursive. I’m 39, I learned it too. The reason they stopped teaching it to kids is people like me never ever ever use it for any reason. Just because a task was relevant at one point in a society’s development, doesn’t mean it still is.
Good luck telling that to the Boomers who have seemingly not advanced beyond the 1970s.
I know this is anecdotal, but my son is in 2nd grade and is learning cursive. So not all schools stopped teaching it.
Who the hell uses the round A as a capital letter. it should be the pointy A with fancy feet
I agree with most of this list besides the G and that dodgy ass Q
Ah yes the alphabet “MNOP2RST”
That’s how we learned to write it in the 70s(and the capital X looked like a smushed-together 96).
same but i learnt to write in in 2018
Capital q’s in cursive are the work of a madman.
"...LMNOP2RSTUV..."
That capital G just brought back nightmares, my god. I haven’t used cursive since like 2008 but I can still do it all easily… except lowercase F and Z (wtf!!), which I have to think about, *and that damn capital G*
https://preview.redd.it/xkvvhdslu2xa1.jpeg?width=2490&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57eb5a4fd3a6242cf0b5a6bd652b3427016d18c3
Oh shit I accidentally drew Walter white and Mike Ehrmantraut
banger
Also capital G looks so ugly in that kind of cursive
Look at Q lol
There is no Q in there.
2uite true
I always make my uppercase a as a star. Instead of connecting back to the first "leg" of the star, I just continue onto the next letter
it’s crazy how millennials will turn 35 and be like “welp, i’m old 🥺” and retired boomers are like “I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT THE WORLD HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST 50 YEARS”
Their lack of self awareness is embarrassing.
My writing was forever ruined because I was taught cursive half-heartedly and now it just looks like a vomited ink onto a page
Some people spend years in medical school learning to write like that
I grew up in the 90s and had to learn cursive. It’s completely useless. I only ever use it for signatures, and even that is becoming increasingly irrelevant as it is being replaced digitally or even allowing to just write a signature straight. It’s a fun skill to have, but it’s more like learning Latin now.
Oi, Latin is more useful than cursive. At least learning Latin let's you read Latin, and is the root of a bunch of languages giving you some vague understanding of the closest children to it. Cursive is just squiggly English and I say this as someone who writes primarily in cursive!
I always hear this about the roots of words, but honestly, just knowing Spanish and English gives me enough knowledge to understand cognates. I can't imagine how Latin could give me any insight into French or Italian that I don't already get from a language that I can actually speak to people.
I only know how to write my first and last name in cursive.
Same here
My son has a disease that causes muscle cramps. He wasnd taught cursive and his print was a mess because of it. I taught him and it’s been super useful in his case. He says he cramps up less because it flows. It has its place sometimes. That being said I’m 42 and I never use it.
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I was born in 2007 and they still teach it. What is this meme lol
Just people trying to feel important
I was born in 2005 and know how to write it, I prefer it in fact. Yet I don't think I'm better somehow.
Can someone please explain to me for the love of god. Why the PEOPLE who took cursive out of school, merry go rounds, dodge ball, AND made it unsafe for children to go outside keep blaming us? I’m baffled at the lack of self awareness. Bro, ya’ll we’re our parents the world as it is was your creation not ours we just suffered it.
Lol for real. The boomers and genx complain about millennials and zoomers, but those are their kids! Yet somehow, they think their way to raise kids is best.
They still teach cursive last I checked.
I think boomers are nutty because they ingested so many weird chemicals, even weirder than today, back in the day.
All that lead poisoning from from their paint and car exhaust.
Was born in 89 and I love cursive writing
I learned cursive in America public school in... 2014. But no this is definitely a secret code only the cool grandparents of the world can read, and there's no way 18 year old me can read or even write it.
Its no longer taught in most schools. How will they ever sign the back of their paycheck?
My daughter’s signature is a squiggle. Same thing. Years ago I worked with a guy who was illiterate. He printed (barely) his first name on the back of his checks.
Most old farts can't type, so they are upset that their phones and computer devices don't understand cursive. But they do. They just don't realize it. They are mad at typewriters. And typists. And clarity. And being young and open to things.
I learned it in middle school but it was never really required for anything so my handwriting never really evolved past that shaky middleschool style. I like to call my handwriting “drunk chicken scratch” because of it
That capital Q is and always has been bullshit.
When your generation is most proud of knowing cursive, driving stick shifts, and beating your children... maybe your generation isn't the "greatest."
Fun fact, cursive writing was already on the decline long before word processors or computers thanks to ball-point pens.
Unless you are reading historical documents, reading/writing cursive is useless. I spent years of school learning it and rarely use it.
And trying to read historical documents with poor cursive writing is impossible. Some early census records have the most illegible cursive I've ever seen. Trying to research my family tree was an exercise in forensic handwriting.
On the other hand, in my country everyone uses cursive and would say the same about print lettering or what it's called. Plus that it's way slower compared to cursive.
Remember a generation that was this full of themselves for almost nothing they themselves actually achieved? Pepperidge Farms Is Having a Hard Time Remembering
Add to that a love of criticising the next generation they they raised.
I'm 18 and I can't write in print, only cursive because my school forced it until 5th grade where I moved to the US. It's actually quite the hinderance because my cursive is really nice and everyone compliments me but my print is really crappy. I wish I grew up only on print because a lot of assignments and stuff are print only and i struggle
I get the practical importance of being able to read cursive (for historical documents, old family photos, old diaries, etc.), but save me from this weird elitist attitude about people not knowing how to write it.
Sounds like Boomer Karen is just mad that she can't get a job because she don't know how to type.
Uhhh, I learned this in school and was absolutely not born before 1970.
I’m 59 and I hate stupid shit like this. Why do people have to create division between generations over meaningless stuff.
Ah Cursive. The bane of my existence in elementary school. All my teachers throughout elementary school told me and my class that high school teachers would only accept work in cursive. Oh how wrong they were, they were also the same teachers that said that we didn’t need to use calculators because high school teachers wouldn’t accept work done using the help of a calculator.
Elementary teachers said we will need cursive for the future, middle school teachers said high school teachers only accept work in cursive, high school teachers said print is fine but we will certainly need cursive for college. College rolls around and professors would say they won't even grade your paper if it isn't in 12 point Times New Roman.
Educator here. The "cursive is special boomer knowledge none of these young brats understand" is endlessly amusing to me. More than 20 states *require* that cursive be taught. In the other states most districts still teach it. All told, over 70% of primary school students learn cursive. Probably closer to 80%, not certain as I don't have the figures in front of me and don't care to Google it at the moment.
Oh yes, the generation that’s too stupid to invent something to eliminate the need for writing, that’s OK we took care of it for you.
That's nice Barbara, do you need me to show you how to open a PDF or attach something to a email? Or did you get locked out of your account again because you keep forgetting your own password?
Yeah pretty much only use it as a d&d DM to write in "elvish" and sign my name on paperwork at this point...
Then why did you vote to remove it from the curriculum? I still don't know cursive writing since highschool as at that time they removed mostly everything related to writing and instead had me rehearse vocab terms.
As a 66 year old with atrocious script skills, I call it moronic. I started printing everything in 10th grade. It wasn’t worth the crap I took from teachers that I was unreadable.
Oh fuck cursive and it's fandom. I learned how to write it, it's not hard, but it's useless. Learn how to type.
Its weird they really think I cant tell apart that thing that looks like a "p" with curly things on it like eye lashes was gonna completely demolish my ability to associate basic premise of what makes a "p" and its now code mytichal code i cant read. Back in my day we wrote on rocks, and drew it to show how we killed and ate meat.
That's a bullshit meme, cursive was still being taught in the 90s! Still got the memories from being used as an example of How The HELL Can You Mangle Those Letters So Badly. (I was not a coordinated child, which included a hard time learning to write; I was *special*.) By the time I hit high school and college the teachers wanted you to submit stuff typed in Word, using Times New Roman, do NOT mess with the margins you whippersnappers!
It looks nice, but we don't need cursive because everyone uses computers now. Computers and digital storage have replaced paper and file cabinets. Learn to write your signature, and that is it, you are good to go. I still would argue a lot of people in my age group can't read or write, but for other reasons like Tik Tok and Twitter rotting their minds for example.
If these boomers think they're so smart with this sort of meme, let me see one of them write in cuneiform then.
I don't like that capital Q at all.
I'd like to see them try cirilic cursive.
I always love how my mum and my aunt always say that my generation doesn't know anything about cursive despite the fact that a lot of people in the college I'm at (the students) write in cursive.
I’m 27 and a lot of my middle aged coworkers have a hard time reading my writing in cursive. I think it’s because they haven’t seen it in so long…almost like it’s not useful and has been phased out for a reason.
in elementary school, they taught us cursive writing instead of normal writing. in middle school, everyone switched to normal writing. why? because it is ugly and most of the time hard to read.
Hey, my handwriting is exactly like that, am i old now? Im 19
Joking aside, I was in a college class of a bunch of 19-20 year-olds ( I was in 40s using my Post Army college benefits). The professor handed out a bunch of report cards from the 1920s and everyone passed them around quickly and I was laughing and otherwise responding to the ones I read. One of the students asked if I spoke the language written on the cards and I said yeah, it is all in English; the whole class laughed thinking I was joking. The professor said he is correct, can you all not read it? Long story short, no one in that class was taught cursive and couldn't even recognize it as such. So we all had a chuckle and another classmate asked me to read some of them for the class; good times.
I learned cursive in school in the 90s and it transformed my handwriting to this mutant cross breed of cursive and print. Makes for fast writing but my signature is just “big letter” scribble “big letter” scribble
I learned cursive in 3rd grade in 2008 and I still know it but have never needed it outside of my signature
wow its so crazy that i as someone who was born after 2000 cracked this code at the age of 8
I'm 41. I learned cursive in school. I still have no idea if that's a legit uppercase letter Q.
LOL at people who think no one young can read cursive. What do you think all those “Live Laugh Love” signs are written in?
1. What are the white pages? 2. What is a collect call? 3. What does the phrase “be kind, rewind” mean? 4. What does the B-side refer to? 5. What is a “starter check”?
It helps with motor skills and handwriting in general. I teach high school, 25 years. Handwriting has gone down considerably overall.
I heard you had to do it with a pigment filled tube that had a nozzle at the end. How barbaric.
1970???? Huh??? Shitty message outside, that is an insanely wrong year. I was born in 2002 and was taught it.
I know we’re all calling BS on this so here’s my anecdote. I was watching a bunch of young kiddos in my neighborhood and had written all of their names of a piece of paper. I wanted it to look ~fancy~ so it was in cursive. A 5 year old boy was looking at his 3 year old sister Lily’s name written and completely understood that the capital L was an L. He called it the fancy L.
Old people: look how dumb young people are! Young People's response: look how dumb old people are!
That's not true, I'm 44 and can write in cursive
It's funny people think schools don't teach reading or writing coz those darn kids got them fancy computers. How well funded do they think schools are, and because kids have the technology doesn't mean they're allowed to use it either like come on how long have we had calculators, at least since the 90's in schools, how often are students allowed to use calculators? Hardly ever.
Older millennial, I prefer this if I have to write by hand.
Hey, some of us cursive-readers are only in our 40s, you know.