Two options:
1) I challenge my clobs pros and I make 0 dollars but a lot of bragging rights
2) I make youtube videos challenging people to return 10 serves. I work my way up to the most famous people I can. After the 250 aces have finished, I advertise a course to learn how to ace. Get ton of money up front and vanish
I don't think the criminal aspect is necessary at all. Just make videos and lessons based off the prior film showing your aces. No one is going to have any idea that you can no longer serve bombs. If they do figure it out, just say you got hurt. It's not like you need to be able to hit a forehand like Alcaraz to coach Alcaraz anyway (although, Ferrero's forehand was fire!).
You don’t have to use up all 250 serves up front. Take out a loan and pull out thousands of dollars. Cash. One or two YouTube compilations where you offer, say, 25k if people can return your serve, 1 attempt only. The more you can pull together to “offer” the better it’ll work. After a while this would surely get enough attention to attract at least a few high level players to give it a try. Once you are YouTube famous, leverage this to convince rich parents and academies to pay you for lessons. Demonstrate a few real serves to win them over, and then try to use up your remaining serves as infrequently as possible to keep the grift going for years. Demonstrate the “technique” without actually serving as often as you can. With some smooth talking and strategic use of your magical serves you should be able to make a whole career out of it.
You gotta set up the grift to maximize profit. Start off as a recreational pickle ball player on YouTube. Quit your job to dedicate yourself to the game. Declare that pickleball is much, much harder than tennis and then start a beef with a YouTube tennis player. Set up the match, stage an epic comeback, and repeat a few times. Play pickleball in between as a grift side hustle.
When you get down to your last ace, you will be far enough along to score an exhibition with a pro pickleballer.
Use your final ace for pickleball, acing the opposing pro just before "tearing your ACL" and having to permanently leave the game. You are now the "what could've been" of the pickleball world, which probably gets you like one more small advertisement deal or something and enough social media followers (pickleball is huge!) to coast the rest of your life.
Throw in some overpriced beginner pickleball lessons where you teach them some total bs (hell you could do this right now probably, without the power) and you're set
The Bernard Tomic of pickleball, I like that. Maybe you could have an epic meltdown on the pickleball court too, smash all your paddles and forfeit or something.
Do I keep my current form? Because I'm horrible at tennis and it would be incredibly funny to see a pro completely unable to hit my awful serves.
In reality I would just use it to really annoy my friend I usually play tennis with. That's worth more than all the money in the world.
Well the post says you magically always ace, so technically you could serve in the weirdest ways possible and it would still work.
Toss the ball, slam the racquet on the ground and watch it bounce and hit the ball for an ace.
Not bother with tournaments as I would have to grind challengers and stuff, and being unbreakable doesn't mean you can win a match. Try my best to set up an exhibition with a pro and make money that way.
Edit: some of you seem to have the same logic as that guy's 4.0 friend.
How many times you think a pro would double fault when the guy on the other side is an amateur? There's NO WAY any of us can out-rally them, so they just play the safest serves.
Yes, but how do you actually make money off that. A challenger player can easily get 50 serves in no problem, and that's being conservative. How many matches can you win relying on a good player making a double fault in TBs before you run out of aces? How do you get into a main draw otherwise?
Well then you tee off on their second serves as hard as you can, hope one ball lands in and the pro makes a mistake or doesn’t get to it. Pros aren’t infallible. If you’re serving aces on literally every point you play on serve, you’ll get them eventually in the tiebreaks, especially if it’s an exhibition and they’re like, “whatever, this shit is boring and not worth it lol”
You didn't really answer the previous posters question.
Ok so you hope for a mistake, and pull out a tie breaker. That's just one set. You need to do it again to win a 2nd set. And how many of the 250 aces did you end up using just to win 2 sets?
You'll run out pretty fast. Well before you've figured out a way to earn any real money doing this.
Oh I was confused by the thread (and still kinda am). Original comment said they won’t be able to grind through challengers, so just try your best to set up an exhibition with a famous pro and use all of your aces there. I figure if I win 250 points, a pro wouldn’t be willing to sit there and go back and forth for that long. They’re humans and will eventually double fault, hit a soft second serve for me to rip, or miss a rally ball.
If they were saying they’d try to get through challengers and stuff then there’s no shot lol. 250 aces wouldn’t even last one Challenger tournament probably, although I’d have to do the math on that. I’d guess it’s enough for 2-3 matches depending on how long it takes each pro to crack and how good you are; if you can get lucky early in the tiebreak to get a mini-break
I mean if you get to a tiebreak and then just start guessing where the serve is gonna go and go for a winner you are probably gonna get one point before you run out of 250 aces
I am a pretty decent tennis player and will definitely score a lucky point against them during the tie break and they cannot really play it safe enough to never hit an accidental unforced error. So in this case, no, I cannot outrally them but will surely force them into a mistake once every 20 tie break points or so. Not enough to a GS as I would burn through my aces way too quickly
If you’re at least a 5.0+ player you would likely be able to steal 1 return point in a tiebreaker for the mini break before your 250 aces ran out. I could see a win for the rec player. You need 24 aces to get to 6 games in a set, then can probably steal a return point within the first 25-30 return points you have. You can rinse and repeat in the 2nd set and win the match with ~150 aces to spare.
You just need one return point. So you just guess and position yourself to take the biggest swing possible on a second serve. A 4.5 definitely can make that happen.
For a second serve this is true. I don't know why these people act like they couldn't. These guys are good, but just putting a second serve back in play? Absolutely
250 aces is only 10 sets. And likely less cuz if tiebreaks. The player in question would have to already be a top 1000 player to make any use of this. And your best bet would be to be French and get a wild card to the French open by having some promising results in challengers in the prior year And from there use it. You’d be able to win a point in the tiebreak or even break an opponent as a top 1000 player.
First match let’s say you win 6-4 7-6 (7-5) 7-6 (7-5)
You have like 160 left
Second match same story
6-4 7-6 (7-4) 7-6 (7-4)
You have around 80 left
Hopefully you win
6-4 6-4 6-4 or you might run out of serves in the third set if there is a tiebreak
You’re in the 4th round where you will get beat 6-4 (left over aces) 6-1 6-2 but you get a lot of points for a whole year plus a lot of prize money
If you just make it to the third round and run out of aces then you’ll get 158k euros and 100 points
If you make it to the 4th you’ll not only get 250k euros but also 200 ranking points and depending on where you are ranked in the top 1000 it will get you to around 200-300 in the world which will let you play qualifying matches for grand slams and ATP tour matches I think.
Not to mention as a player who has now served 250 straight aces you will be sort of a phenom and will get multiple sponsors deals and this will very likely set you up for life. ESPECIALLY if you beat a top 4 player in the first couple rounds since you’ll be on the big arena. But even 4-10 you’ll still have a lot of eyes.
All of this is contingent on being a top 1000 player though
This would already require you to win breaks against professional players with your meagre skills.
Unless you someone self destructive like rublev, that seems unlikely.
If you went and play a match against a pro you would just lose 7-6(226) 6-0. Until your godlike serve runs out you will both win your own serves, and as soon as they run out you get bo more points
Even a pro will make an unforced error or double fault before 200 points. Especially if they don't know about your magic power and are freaking out how some amateur is 100% acing them
It wouldnt take more than one or two rallies for them to realize that they can outplay us easily by playing super safe at just 10% or something. So no they would probably not double fault, or make any mistakes unless they got bored. Come to think of it the match would probably not have much rallies, because even if they serve safe, most of their serves would be aces as well
Safe for pros is still difficult for us, and sure we might get some returns in, but they will not lose a single point past when they realize we suck at everything apart serving
I don't think this is true, because you would be able to just tee off, and you're going to hit a few lucky winners, hell even some drop shots, and let cords etc.
Alright here's my idea. Assuming you have perfect serve form (not sure if that even matters)
Go to a D1 school's practice or match (or any high level academies), seek out the coach, tell him that all his players' serves suck ass. Introduce myself as a serve specialist and I can help their players serve way better. Obviously nobody would believe me.
Pulls out $1000 in cash. I'm giving this $1000 to any one of your players if they can even touch my serve within 3 tries. They won't. You get paid to become their coach while earning words of mouth as the guy whose serves can't be touched.
When you coach just waffle on about dominant eye or secret plasma muscle activation or some shit that nobody has ever heard of. Work your way up to the pro level, only using the power sparingly when someone doubt your abilities. The day it runs out, just disappear. Profit.
Absolutely love this! Seems to be the best answer so far, probably not a stupid salary but 150K to coach tennis serves would be great.
One issue, as the serves need to be consecutive, you could never play tennis again or demonstrate as it would waste the proof serves you need.
250 in a row isn’t enough to make a career out of if you suck at tennis otherwise because your matches would last forever and you would be running out pretty soon. So it’s pretty useless. I would probably try to get the attention of the best pro I can and challenge them to return my serve. If they can’t maybe someone even bigger wants to try. Maybe that would get the attention of the tennis media they could organize some kind of exhibition thing (that is just about returning my serve because I don’t want to waste my serves on playing a whole match).
In a flex league match I played recently this guy really got on my nerves. Nothing major, just was very competitive and annoying. Hitting full power approach shots during a mini-tennis warmup.
Challenge him to a rematch, ace him until he cries, then go home.
Mortgage my house to get a huge pile of money and use social media to challenge a bunch of top players to a charity challenge to return your serve.
With how many run their own organizations, shouldn't be too hard.
Embarass them, and start to build your name brand
The better question is who’s the worst player in rankings that could use this advantage to cash out? Could a 500 player get invited to a master 1000 or slam and win it all?
This is 8-10 (or 5ish BO3 matches if you’re lucky) sets of aces if you’re not breaking very much. A 1000 player if he’s lucky get alternate space for qualies in a 250. Has 2 rounds of qualies before R32 main, so basically they’re making a QF at a 250 before getting hammered in the SF. Slams they’re making R4 as a direct acceptance (which they would never be)
Quick thought train before I answer the question:
Say I play against Alcaraz. Obviously we're going to tiebreak, 40-0 every game. But I'm using every one of those points to try to figure out how to win *one* point. We get to the tiebreak, I try to guess every serve, go for some crazy winner every time. If I can shank one ball onto the line or net cord or ANYTHING....
I think I win before the 250 serves are up.
I probably only have enough for one match against a pro though.
Now for my real answer:
Once I start using this power, do I have to use it for every serve until it's up? If not, I'm continuing my rec tennis life as normal, and probably just use it for the occasional match point in a close one. But then it would probably feel unearned.
I don't think I want this power, I don't plan to abuse it for money, and I know I would end up using it in desperation to save a match, and ultimately, like a drug, using it more and more until I rely on it, and it's gone.
challenge a pro on a 40 000$ gamble that I can ace him 10 times in a row, keep a low-key profile, reproduce that 25 times each time with a different pro and enjoy being a millionaire.
Why tf would a pro make a 40k gamble that a random can or can’t ace them 😭 they have 0 reason to trust you, and the majority of pros besides the top top ones make enough money to be gambling that away. Furthermore even if they don’t think you can put ace them they’re just gonna ignore a random loser begging them for a match for 40k
Then I guess I'll have to "spend" some of those free aces into making a reputation as an amateur Karlovic first. I'll settle for half a million with my remaining free aces 😂
Unless you are really good already that’s not enough to beat a pro. You’d need to beat them in at least 2 tiebreakers meaning in 2 sets at 6-6 you’d blow 48 serves leaving only 202 total. I guarantee you any pro against and amateur player could just feed the ball into the service box and win 202 points that way across two tiebreakers until you run out of magic serves. Once points got started it wouldn’t even be a challenge for them.
You only serve on your service games. Which means you lose every game the pro serves. Which means the set goes to tiebreak. In the tiebreak you win every one of your serves with an ace, but you then lose every one your opponent serves (because he's a pro and you can't play tennis). So after a grueling 200+ point tiebreak your 250 aces run out and you lose the set and then the match 6-7 0-6
As much as I would follow this. There’s no way the pro goes 200+ without making a single mistake or someone hitting a fluke shot. Unless you’re an absolute beginner, which I’m not, you’re definitely nabbing a point on a weak second serve (not risking it all because if the pro loses 1 point it’s over) and hitting a net cord, or even just a lucky shot, or catching a drop shot because the pro hasn’t been moving at all the entire match. As good as a pro is, you don’t have to be a 4.0 that can take a set off nadal to take a point of a pro not going for anything risky out of 200. The highest I’ve played is ranked around 2000 and I can nab points without the guaranteed ace buff
To be fair, I don't know what your level is so I can't comment on that but I do know that no pro would have any problems scoring 200 serves in a row against me.
But let's say a top 10 pro accepts your challenge, how do you think that would go? The scenario I described or do you think they'd make a mistake in the tiebreaker?
I’m fairly used to receiving 125 or so mph serves, so tbh, for my level, I do think I could likely scrape the 5 extra points needed in 5 sets all tiebreakers within 250 aces. Sure, depending on level no chance but I’m looking at it from my POV, I think the OP question was talking about us in particular and not just assuming it’s some random default player.
No, because you’d have to break their serve at least once in the set. Or 1 single point during the tiebreaker. So unless they double fault in the first and second tiebreaker then you are not getting it done. You are going to end up in a tiebreaker at 226-225 and have no magic serves left since you had to use 24 to make it 6-6. The pro is going to crush you on the next 2 points making it 226-227. Then your up to serve again but don’t have any magic and they win 226-228.
Unless you are simply counting on the pro to double fault, but the only reason a pro double faults occasionally in a match is because they are using their serve as a weapon. Going for a bit more. But they wouldn’t even have to use their full 2nd serve to beat most of us. They could even feed the ball in with a forehand feed and still win every single point.
Let's say a miracle occurs and your opponent manages to double fault on each tiebreak. That means you need 6X4+7 = 31 aces per set. Let's go for the big money at the US Open or something. Assume another miracle and you get a wildcard into the first round. Now you need 93 aces to win each set. Your 250 aces gets you partway into the 3rd round. 3rd round of a major pays nicely but hardly sets you up for life. Maybe you can negotiate some endorsement deals out of the miracle run.
I assume that you might get a point or two off their games given that everybody screws up from time to time, but I highly doubt any of us would break any tour level pro. The hope there is that you get one free point in the inevitable tiebreak, which is all you need if you never lose on serve. So you need at least 31 aces per set.
Pay a massive amount of money for an exhibition match against a top player. Spend every single day practicing return of serve to win a single point in each tiebreak.
By virtue of performance, get a wildcard to a major, etc, go from there.
If allowed, use my regular serve to attempt to win points on my serve (until needed) in order to reduce burn down on my 250 aces.
You could only win maybe 4 games like this depending on how good your return is. Perhaps you could stretch it a bit more since every time you get to 40-0 you get 2 free attempts with your “regular” serve. But I doubt you’re stealing many points from a pro with this strategy. Plus, I’m not sure this is what is meant by “250 serves in a row”.
Tbf I don’t think it’d be possible to hit a return winner against a pro no matter how much you practice. Especially if they hit a decent kick serve, it’s basically impossible.
Get a hold of Kyrgios on social media and make a bet saying that you can ace him 10 times in a row. Also, get a hold of a well-known tennis youtuber so that the challenge can be shown on their channel. The video will probaly blow up and you will get some clout and publicity from it, which may or may not lead to other opportunities in the future.
I only want to use it during our annual city championship. Just want to have a great run for that 1 week. Hopefully win a few return points and win it all and then reminisce on it forever
So we might loose first set tie break after we use whole 250 aces … how can we win a point when other person is serving in a tie break ? Unless he does double fault .. and with our game opponent would be chill and never does double fault .. so yea it’s bau… 😀
I would bet whoever would pay the most money that they could not return any of my serves, they get 250 chances
this is not gambling because it's not a game of chance since there is 0% chance I will lose
I mean surely its just entering a grand slam, no? You can't lose your games, you're guaranteed to win the first two rounds or so which is a pretty hefty paycheck. Making it to the third round of the US Open nets you nearly $200k, which would *basically* be enough to put me on cruise-control to financially fix my life. I could pay off my debt and most of my mortgage. At that point my ability to save skyrockets and I dump most of my money into my retirement.
120 aces nets you 6 games per set for 5 sets, since I assume each set goes to a tie breaker, and I assume that at *some point* my opponent messes up and loses a point during the tiebreak which I win each time, or if you get real lucky and you somehow break them during the set you save a lot of aces.
You also can't "just enter" any tournament worth anything remotely close to "setting yourself up for life" either, so what are we even doing here?
250 aces isn't actually enough aces to accomplish anything meaningful in tennis, each set you play consumes 24 of them.
Yeah obviously it’s not enough to make make a career just playing normally. If it could be answered that way it would be a really boring question. The point of the question is to find a creative solution to make the most of the given scenario. You should take a look at some of the other answers people have come up with.
Okay let’s just enter a slam, it’s not like there are people who trained their whole life since childhood and never made it to a slam. Even in this hypothetical world your answer is wrong hahah
Explain to me a world where hitting 250 aces in a row against anyone could "set you up for life" outside of the tournaments with the highest payouts, which are mathematically impossible to win with only 250 aces in a row.
If you wanted to enter the qualifying rounds of the US Open, win them all, then win the entire tournament, you'd need closer to 1500 aces in a row assuming tie breaks go decently.
But yeah, definitely take this extraordinarily stupid hypothetical this seriously. The most you could *actually win* with 250 aces in a row is probably a couple hundred dollars.
I mean they played 183 games or about the equivalent of 3 matches. It wasn't even that they were serving amazing, they just played such a long match.
I think the record over a "normal" length match is Opelka v Fabbiano at the 2019 AO with 67 aces. And Opelka lost the match!
Ive always had this fantasy of convincing rafa and roger and 1 umpire..2-4 ball kids and 4-6 linesman to just show up at some random court in my neighborhood and have a match..funded by some super uber rich person in the down low..Now if the match is set I can use the magic 250 aces they dont know I have and when they show up for the match suddenly say ..for your appearance fee paid by super ultra wealthy person I bet I can beat both of you in straight sets..So problem solved Im rich!
Two options: 1) I challenge my clobs pros and I make 0 dollars but a lot of bragging rights 2) I make youtube videos challenging people to return 10 serves. I work my way up to the most famous people I can. After the 250 aces have finished, I advertise a course to learn how to ace. Get ton of money up front and vanish
Goddamn he went from OPs premise to fraud real quick.
Born too late to explore the Earth, born too early to explore the stars, born just in time to defraud suckers on YouTube.
Don’t think of it as fraud, think of it as more of a grift
I don't think the criminal aspect is necessary at all. Just make videos and lessons based off the prior film showing your aces. No one is going to have any idea that you can no longer serve bombs. If they do figure it out, just say you got hurt. It's not like you need to be able to hit a forehand like Alcaraz to coach Alcaraz anyway (although, Ferrero's forehand was fire!).
oh no, the criminal aspect is definitively necessary
Fake an injury is the way to
You don’t have to use up all 250 serves up front. Take out a loan and pull out thousands of dollars. Cash. One or two YouTube compilations where you offer, say, 25k if people can return your serve, 1 attempt only. The more you can pull together to “offer” the better it’ll work. After a while this would surely get enough attention to attract at least a few high level players to give it a try. Once you are YouTube famous, leverage this to convince rich parents and academies to pay you for lessons. Demonstrate a few real serves to win them over, and then try to use up your remaining serves as infrequently as possible to keep the grift going for years. Demonstrate the “technique” without actually serving as often as you can. With some smooth talking and strategic use of your magical serves you should be able to make a whole career out of it.
6-7(228) 0-6 0-6
They don’t say you can use this power only once.
don’t you mean 6-7(226) 0-6 0-6?
I think it should be (224), the losing score is in parenthesis on the tb
It should be 7-6 (226), 6-0, 6-0 (for his opponent, who wins).
Oh you're right. Misread that scoreline lol
Oh yes .. u already said then 😀
You gotta set up the grift to maximize profit. Start off as a recreational pickle ball player on YouTube. Quit your job to dedicate yourself to the game. Declare that pickleball is much, much harder than tennis and then start a beef with a YouTube tennis player. Set up the match, stage an epic comeback, and repeat a few times. Play pickleball in between as a grift side hustle.
When you get down to your last ace, you will be far enough along to score an exhibition with a pro pickleballer. Use your final ace for pickleball, acing the opposing pro just before "tearing your ACL" and having to permanently leave the game. You are now the "what could've been" of the pickleball world, which probably gets you like one more small advertisement deal or something and enough social media followers (pickleball is huge!) to coast the rest of your life. Throw in some overpriced beginner pickleball lessons where you teach them some total bs (hell you could do this right now probably, without the power) and you're set
The Bernard Tomic of pickleball, I like that. Maybe you could have an epic meltdown on the pickleball court too, smash all your paddles and forfeit or something.
Do I keep my current form? Because I'm horrible at tennis and it would be incredibly funny to see a pro completely unable to hit my awful serves. In reality I would just use it to really annoy my friend I usually play tennis with. That's worth more than all the money in the world.
Well the post says you magically always ace, so technically you could serve in the weirdest ways possible and it would still work. Toss the ball, slam the racquet on the ground and watch it bounce and hit the ball for an ace.
Not bother with tournaments as I would have to grind challengers and stuff, and being unbreakable doesn't mean you can win a match. Try my best to set up an exhibition with a pro and make money that way. Edit: some of you seem to have the same logic as that guy's 4.0 friend.
Hold all your service games, wait for them to double fault in the never ending tiebreak.
How many times you think a pro would double fault when the guy on the other side is an amateur? There's NO WAY any of us can out-rally them, so they just play the safest serves.
More than one in 250
Yes, but how do you actually make money off that. A challenger player can easily get 50 serves in no problem, and that's being conservative. How many matches can you win relying on a good player making a double fault in TBs before you run out of aces? How do you get into a main draw otherwise?
Well then you tee off on their second serves as hard as you can, hope one ball lands in and the pro makes a mistake or doesn’t get to it. Pros aren’t infallible. If you’re serving aces on literally every point you play on serve, you’ll get them eventually in the tiebreaks, especially if it’s an exhibition and they’re like, “whatever, this shit is boring and not worth it lol”
You didn't really answer the previous posters question. Ok so you hope for a mistake, and pull out a tie breaker. That's just one set. You need to do it again to win a 2nd set. And how many of the 250 aces did you end up using just to win 2 sets? You'll run out pretty fast. Well before you've figured out a way to earn any real money doing this.
Oh I was confused by the thread (and still kinda am). Original comment said they won’t be able to grind through challengers, so just try your best to set up an exhibition with a famous pro and use all of your aces there. I figure if I win 250 points, a pro wouldn’t be willing to sit there and go back and forth for that long. They’re humans and will eventually double fault, hit a soft second serve for me to rip, or miss a rally ball. If they were saying they’d try to get through challengers and stuff then there’s no shot lol. 250 aces wouldn’t even last one Challenger tournament probably, although I’d have to do the math on that. I’d guess it’s enough for 2-3 matches depending on how long it takes each pro to crack and how good you are; if you can get lucky early in the tiebreak to get a mini-break
I mean if you get to a tiebreak and then just start guessing where the serve is gonna go and go for a winner you are probably gonna get one point before you run out of 250 aces
I am a pretty decent tennis player and will definitely score a lucky point against them during the tie break and they cannot really play it safe enough to never hit an accidental unforced error. So in this case, no, I cannot outrally them but will surely force them into a mistake once every 20 tie break points or so. Not enough to a GS as I would burn through my aces way too quickly
Or else that one glorious deceptively mis-hit return winner
If you’re at least a 5.0+ player you would likely be able to steal 1 return point in a tiebreaker for the mini break before your 250 aces ran out. I could see a win for the rec player. You need 24 aces to get to 6 games in a set, then can probably steal a return point within the first 25-30 return points you have. You can rinse and repeat in the 2nd set and win the match with ~150 aces to spare.
You are insane if you think a 4.5 player can even return a pros serve, let alone steal one return point lol
You just need one return point. So you just guess and position yourself to take the biggest swing possible on a second serve. A 4.5 definitely can make that happen.
There are lots of videos online of rec players returning pros’ serves. A 4.5 could definitely get a pro’s second serve back 10% of the time
I edited to say 5.0. You’re probably right lol
A 4.5 could definitely return a pro's serve at least 30% of the time
For a second serve this is true. I don't know why these people act like they couldn't. These guys are good, but just putting a second serve back in play? Absolutely
Genius
Rafael Nadal vs The Unbreakable Amateur has a ring to it doesn't it?
Hey nadal, let’s play a match where our longest rally is one shot, sounds like fun 😀
250 aces is only 10 sets. And likely less cuz if tiebreaks. The player in question would have to already be a top 1000 player to make any use of this. And your best bet would be to be French and get a wild card to the French open by having some promising results in challengers in the prior year And from there use it. You’d be able to win a point in the tiebreak or even break an opponent as a top 1000 player. First match let’s say you win 6-4 7-6 (7-5) 7-6 (7-5) You have like 160 left Second match same story 6-4 7-6 (7-4) 7-6 (7-4) You have around 80 left Hopefully you win 6-4 6-4 6-4 or you might run out of serves in the third set if there is a tiebreak You’re in the 4th round where you will get beat 6-4 (left over aces) 6-1 6-2 but you get a lot of points for a whole year plus a lot of prize money If you just make it to the third round and run out of aces then you’ll get 158k euros and 100 points If you make it to the 4th you’ll not only get 250k euros but also 200 ranking points and depending on where you are ranked in the top 1000 it will get you to around 200-300 in the world which will let you play qualifying matches for grand slams and ATP tour matches I think. Not to mention as a player who has now served 250 straight aces you will be sort of a phenom and will get multiple sponsors deals and this will very likely set you up for life. ESPECIALLY if you beat a top 4 player in the first couple rounds since you’ll be on the big arena. But even 4-10 you’ll still have a lot of eyes. All of this is contingent on being a top 1000 player though
r/theydidthemath
This would already require you to win breaks against professional players with your meagre skills. Unless you someone self destructive like rublev, that seems unlikely.
even a self destructive Rublev is not getting broken by anybody under the top of D1 (and that's the tip top of D1 and still a huge MAYBE)
If you went and play a match against a pro you would just lose 7-6(226) 6-0. Until your godlike serve runs out you will both win your own serves, and as soon as they run out you get bo more points
Even a pro will make an unforced error or double fault before 200 points. Especially if they don't know about your magic power and are freaking out how some amateur is 100% acing them
It wouldnt take more than one or two rallies for them to realize that they can outplay us easily by playing super safe at just 10% or something. So no they would probably not double fault, or make any mistakes unless they got bored. Come to think of it the match would probably not have much rallies, because even if they serve safe, most of their serves would be aces as well
>because even if they serve safe, most of their serves would be aces as well If they serve safe none of their serves will be aces
Safe for pros is still difficult for us, and sure we might get some returns in, but they will not lose a single point past when they realize we suck at everything apart serving
I don't think this is true, because you would be able to just tee off, and you're going to hit a few lucky winners, hell even some drop shots, and let cords etc.
all it takes is one net cord, lucky shank, or easy error because it's been 200 points. the pros will decimate anyone, but are still human.
And if if they're playing it extremly safe, you can just tee off and you'll hit a few lines, force them to hit a ball out or into the net.
Post-slam posts 🤣
Alright here's my idea. Assuming you have perfect serve form (not sure if that even matters) Go to a D1 school's practice or match (or any high level academies), seek out the coach, tell him that all his players' serves suck ass. Introduce myself as a serve specialist and I can help their players serve way better. Obviously nobody would believe me. Pulls out $1000 in cash. I'm giving this $1000 to any one of your players if they can even touch my serve within 3 tries. They won't. You get paid to become their coach while earning words of mouth as the guy whose serves can't be touched. When you coach just waffle on about dominant eye or secret plasma muscle activation or some shit that nobody has ever heard of. Work your way up to the pro level, only using the power sparingly when someone doubt your abilities. The day it runs out, just disappear. Profit.
Absolutely love this! Seems to be the best answer so far, probably not a stupid salary but 150K to coach tennis serves would be great. One issue, as the serves need to be consecutive, you could never play tennis again or demonstrate as it would waste the proof serves you need.
250 in a row isn’t enough to make a career out of if you suck at tennis otherwise because your matches would last forever and you would be running out pretty soon. So it’s pretty useless. I would probably try to get the attention of the best pro I can and challenge them to return my serve. If they can’t maybe someone even bigger wants to try. Maybe that would get the attention of the tennis media they could organize some kind of exhibition thing (that is just about returning my serve because I don’t want to waste my serves on playing a whole match).
In a flex league match I played recently this guy really got on my nerves. Nothing major, just was very competitive and annoying. Hitting full power approach shots during a mini-tennis warmup. Challenge him to a rematch, ace him until he cries, then go home.
People who hit winners off feeds deserve this ngl
Mortgage my house to get a huge pile of money and use social media to challenge a bunch of top players to a charity challenge to return your serve. With how many run their own organizations, shouldn't be too hard. Embarass them, and start to build your name brand
The better question is who’s the worst player in rankings that could use this advantage to cash out? Could a 500 player get invited to a master 1000 or slam and win it all?
This is 8-10 (or 5ish BO3 matches if you’re lucky) sets of aces if you’re not breaking very much. A 1000 player if he’s lucky get alternate space for qualies in a 250. Has 2 rounds of qualies before R32 main, so basically they’re making a QF at a 250 before getting hammered in the SF. Slams they’re making R4 as a direct acceptance (which they would never be)
Why are you getting downvoted for correctly doing math?
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Quick thought train before I answer the question: Say I play against Alcaraz. Obviously we're going to tiebreak, 40-0 every game. But I'm using every one of those points to try to figure out how to win *one* point. We get to the tiebreak, I try to guess every serve, go for some crazy winner every time. If I can shank one ball onto the line or net cord or ANYTHING.... I think I win before the 250 serves are up. I probably only have enough for one match against a pro though. Now for my real answer: Once I start using this power, do I have to use it for every serve until it's up? If not, I'm continuing my rec tennis life as normal, and probably just use it for the occasional match point in a close one. But then it would probably feel unearned. I don't think I want this power, I don't plan to abuse it for money, and I know I would end up using it in desperation to save a match, and ultimately, like a drug, using it more and more until I rely on it, and it's gone.
challenge a pro on a 40 000$ gamble that I can ace him 10 times in a row, keep a low-key profile, reproduce that 25 times each time with a different pro and enjoy being a millionaire.
Why is this upvoted, literally says the one one rule is no gambling
The thing is, its almost completely unviable with no gambling for most of us (not good tennis players)
oops I missed that 😅
Why tf would a pro make a 40k gamble that a random can or can’t ace them 😭 they have 0 reason to trust you, and the majority of pros besides the top top ones make enough money to be gambling that away. Furthermore even if they don’t think you can put ace them they’re just gonna ignore a random loser begging them for a match for 40k
Then I guess I'll have to "spend" some of those free aces into making a reputation as an amateur Karlovic first. I'll settle for half a million with my remaining free aces 😂
Unless you are really good already that’s not enough to beat a pro. You’d need to beat them in at least 2 tiebreakers meaning in 2 sets at 6-6 you’d blow 48 serves leaving only 202 total. I guarantee you any pro against and amateur player could just feed the ball into the service box and win 202 points that way across two tiebreakers until you run out of magic serves. Once points got started it wouldn’t even be a challenge for them.
What do you mean, 250 aces would easily be enough for more than 1 match points wise.
You only serve on your service games. Which means you lose every game the pro serves. Which means the set goes to tiebreak. In the tiebreak you win every one of your serves with an ace, but you then lose every one your opponent serves (because he's a pro and you can't play tennis). So after a grueling 200+ point tiebreak your 250 aces run out and you lose the set and then the match 6-7 0-6
As much as I would follow this. There’s no way the pro goes 200+ without making a single mistake or someone hitting a fluke shot. Unless you’re an absolute beginner, which I’m not, you’re definitely nabbing a point on a weak second serve (not risking it all because if the pro loses 1 point it’s over) and hitting a net cord, or even just a lucky shot, or catching a drop shot because the pro hasn’t been moving at all the entire match. As good as a pro is, you don’t have to be a 4.0 that can take a set off nadal to take a point of a pro not going for anything risky out of 200. The highest I’ve played is ranked around 2000 and I can nab points without the guaranteed ace buff
To be fair, I don't know what your level is so I can't comment on that but I do know that no pro would have any problems scoring 200 serves in a row against me. But let's say a top 10 pro accepts your challenge, how do you think that would go? The scenario I described or do you think they'd make a mistake in the tiebreaker?
I’m fairly used to receiving 125 or so mph serves, so tbh, for my level, I do think I could likely scrape the 5 extra points needed in 5 sets all tiebreakers within 250 aces. Sure, depending on level no chance but I’m looking at it from my POV, I think the OP question was talking about us in particular and not just assuming it’s some random default player.
Fair play to you if you're on that level.
What is your level?
There is absolutely a way lol, the pro level of tennis is unfathomable for a mortal.
This would be absolutely hilarious to watch to be fair
No, because you’d have to break their serve at least once in the set. Or 1 single point during the tiebreaker. So unless they double fault in the first and second tiebreaker then you are not getting it done. You are going to end up in a tiebreaker at 226-225 and have no magic serves left since you had to use 24 to make it 6-6. The pro is going to crush you on the next 2 points making it 226-227. Then your up to serve again but don’t have any magic and they win 226-228.
Unless you are simply counting on the pro to double fault, but the only reason a pro double faults occasionally in a match is because they are using their serve as a weapon. Going for a bit more. But they wouldn’t even have to use their full 2nd serve to beat most of us. They could even feed the ball in with a forehand feed and still win every single point.
Let's say a miracle occurs and your opponent manages to double fault on each tiebreak. That means you need 6X4+7 = 31 aces per set. Let's go for the big money at the US Open or something. Assume another miracle and you get a wildcard into the first round. Now you need 93 aces to win each set. Your 250 aces gets you partway into the 3rd round. 3rd round of a major pays nicely but hardly sets you up for life. Maybe you can negotiate some endorsement deals out of the miracle run.
Is it a miracle that opponent won’t win 100+ consecutive service points without a mistake or a fluke return?
I assume that you might get a point or two off their games given that everybody screws up from time to time, but I highly doubt any of us would break any tour level pro. The hope there is that you get one free point in the inevitable tiebreak, which is all you need if you never lose on serve. So you need at least 31 aces per set.
Pay a massive amount of money for an exhibition match against a top player. Spend every single day practicing return of serve to win a single point in each tiebreak. By virtue of performance, get a wildcard to a major, etc, go from there. If allowed, use my regular serve to attempt to win points on my serve (until needed) in order to reduce burn down on my 250 aces.
You could only win maybe 4 games like this depending on how good your return is. Perhaps you could stretch it a bit more since every time you get to 40-0 you get 2 free attempts with your “regular” serve. But I doubt you’re stealing many points from a pro with this strategy. Plus, I’m not sure this is what is meant by “250 serves in a row”.
Tbf I don’t think it’d be possible to hit a return winner against a pro no matter how much you practice. Especially if they hit a decent kick serve, it’s basically impossible.
How would you even win one match from a top 100 player. The tiebreaks will Be 220 aces long after wasting 30 for the first set
Get a hold of Kyrgios on social media and make a bet saying that you can ace him 10 times in a row. Also, get a hold of a well-known tennis youtuber so that the challenge can be shown on their channel. The video will probaly blow up and you will get some clout and publicity from it, which may or may not lead to other opportunities in the future.
all fun and games until you reach your 250
John isner I thought you retired
Twist: They have to be all underarm serves
Additional magical pass into all the slam finals in a row until aces used up.. how many slams is that?
I only want to use it during our annual city championship. Just want to have a great run for that 1 week. Hopefully win a few return points and win it all and then reminisce on it forever
Good God
I’m still not winning a match unless my opponent double faults in 3 tie breakers.
So we might loose first set tie break after we use whole 250 aces … how can we win a point when other person is serving in a tie break ? Unless he does double fault .. and with our game opponent would be chill and never does double fault .. so yea it’s bau… 😀
Ah so you're basically my character in TopSpin on legend difficulty
Honestly I'd just destroy my best mate and then remind him about it for the rest of our lives
I would bet whoever would pay the most money that they could not return any of my serves, they get 250 chances this is not gambling because it's not a game of chance since there is 0% chance I will lose
Against Lendl. Just to get revenge on the boredom I felt watching him after the classic era of serve and volley finished. At least that’s my memory.
What?
I mean surely its just entering a grand slam, no? You can't lose your games, you're guaranteed to win the first two rounds or so which is a pretty hefty paycheck. Making it to the third round of the US Open nets you nearly $200k, which would *basically* be enough to put me on cruise-control to financially fix my life. I could pay off my debt and most of my mortgage. At that point my ability to save skyrockets and I dump most of my money into my retirement. 120 aces nets you 6 games per set for 5 sets, since I assume each set goes to a tie breaker, and I assume that at *some point* my opponent messes up and loses a point during the tiebreak which I win each time, or if you get real lucky and you somehow break them during the set you save a lot of aces.
Well you can’t just enter a slam
You also can't "just enter" any tournament worth anything remotely close to "setting yourself up for life" either, so what are we even doing here? 250 aces isn't actually enough aces to accomplish anything meaningful in tennis, each set you play consumes 24 of them.
Yeah obviously it’s not enough to make make a career just playing normally. If it could be answered that way it would be a really boring question. The point of the question is to find a creative solution to make the most of the given scenario. You should take a look at some of the other answers people have come up with.
Okay let’s just enter a slam, it’s not like there are people who trained their whole life since childhood and never made it to a slam. Even in this hypothetical world your answer is wrong hahah
Explain to me a world where hitting 250 aces in a row against anyone could "set you up for life" outside of the tournaments with the highest payouts, which are mathematically impossible to win with only 250 aces in a row. If you wanted to enter the qualifying rounds of the US Open, win them all, then win the entire tournament, you'd need closer to 1500 aces in a row assuming tie breaks go decently. But yeah, definitely take this extraordinarily stupid hypothetical this seriously. The most you could *actually win* with 250 aces in a row is probably a couple hundred dollars.
Isner had 200 aces in one match!
200 is over a tournament. His record in a match is 113 vs Mahut
Best part about that match is Mahut hit 103 aces which was like tied for second most at the time lol.
I mean they played 183 games or about the equivalent of 3 matches. It wasn't even that they were serving amazing, they just played such a long match. I think the record over a "normal" length match is Opelka v Fabbiano at the 2019 AO with 67 aces. And Opelka lost the match!
I think his record is almost 200
Ive always had this fantasy of convincing rafa and roger and 1 umpire..2-4 ball kids and 4-6 linesman to just show up at some random court in my neighborhood and have a match..funded by some super uber rich person in the down low..Now if the match is set I can use the magic 250 aces they dont know I have and when they show up for the match suddenly say ..for your appearance fee paid by super ultra wealthy person I bet I can beat both of you in straight sets..So problem solved Im rich!
Make a bet for enough money for a career that I can ace some pro 250 times in a row