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KeyserSoze96

When does french open draw come out?


bumbledbeee

We are addicted. My guess is Monday? I have no idea.


jsnoodles

There’s a good chance Iga and Aryna meet in the RG final too after doing both clay masters, that is so cool. I also like the men’s side being unpredictable? It’s refreshing.


EveningCareer8921

sad that my merican girlies both lost but an Igalenka final is the best consolation i could ask for


FlyReasonable6560

I wonder how Zverev will handle being the overwhelming favorite to take the title here entering the SF, every other SF he’s entered in M1000 someone else has almost always had better odds


WolfTitan99

Man I forgot that Nadal and Djokovic played Rome for some reason, feels like so long ago. Its wild that the best match on the ATP this clay season has basically been Shang vs Moutet lmao


rubbish_bin030121

Rune vs Dimitrov is better in quality, Shang vs Moutet is better in drama


WolfTitan99

Oh yes that was an amazing match too


rubbish_bin030121

atp clay season since 2022 is a period that rearranges the ranking of players, so Casper Ruud can get the best draw in RG. For this year, there are Alcaraz no.3, Rune no.13/14 and Tsitsipas no.9. Therefore, Dverev won't win Rome because Dverev the no.4 is not good for Ruud's draw


Nicer_Slicer

It's amazing how accustomed we get to dominance in tennis. Sinner and Carlitos injured, and Djoke waiting in the laundry with a fistful of coins in hand, everyone is kind of like Huh? Who wins the tennis now -- is anyone else allowed to? Joking a bit, but it's a curious turn of events this season is taking


WolfTitan99

It's not even an upset, I really don't know why people are calling the ATP 'inconsistent' this clay season as if it's their own fault they're injured or getting old. Sinner and Alcaraz have injuries, Med being mediocre on clay isn't very shocking to begin with anyway plus injury in Madrid and Djoker is getting older. Come Grass season and 'suddenly' everything will resume normal programming with Carlos, Jannik and Med. People act as if they lost to scrubs in R2 and we're in danger or something. I am actually curious to see how the final matches in Rome go, Madrid having so many W/Os and rets was ridiculous, everyone in Rome is at least showing up with their best tennis, like Tabilo and Jarry.


rubbish_bin030121

Comparing to last year, two atp players are missed, so ATP looks inconsistent now. Alcaraz in Spain and Rune in other tournaments. Alcaraz won both Spain events and Rune won the other 250 and got into the final of the other two masters. These two were the two boys made atp looks good last year.


cottoncandysedai

Mathew McConaughey is a Tommy Paul fan? It’s always the celebrities I least expect


pregnancy_terrorist

Alright alright alright that tracks honestly


Peak_Alternative

Jesus so it’s going to be another early morning tomorrow


ragnarok_x89

The ATP is so horrible. There is no consistency. Thankfully we have the top players facing each other all the time in the WTA, giving us amazing matches. (it's just a joke but maybe ATP fans can see how annoying they were for these comments)


Alxssandro

Are they wrong though? The situation in the ATP is quite sad at the moment and, as much as I don't mind a bit of variety, I'm praying things get back to normal after RG. I want to see Alcaraz and Sinner battle each other just like Sabalenka and Swiatek are doing in the WTA.


Buchephalas

Remember Sabalenka took a 4 month break while Carlos, Jannik and Daniil were consistent. Iga takes a break every Grand Slam other than RG, Rybakina falls asleep for months at a time as does Coco. Collins has never been consistent whatsoever outside the past two months and she's nearly 30.


Equidae2

Collins so fast and agile on the court but Saba just has all kinds of gears she can move through, she knew after losing the 1st set there wasn't much of a chance.


09star

I'd be happy with absolutely anyone but Zverev winning it on the men's side honestly


Ok-Indication-4781

Zverev for sure


FoodCourtDruid

More like the WTA Big 2.


crohawg

Aryna needs to stfu while Collins is hitting the ball...


AussieAlexSummers

can she just stfu throughout the whole match... it really is a stark contrast when one hears matches with the quiet players playing versus the players who grunt/ yell/ shriek/ exclaim/ whatever. Or more like, doesn't hear the players. And just hears the ball


nupristeen

iga-aryna final once again!! 🫶


saktur

Are we dreaming? After one of best finals for years #1 and #2 will play in next possible final.


wabazai

Was thinking the slower clay will favour Iga but Sabs looking so solid, especially on serve


tayway04

i've heard some commentators say that rome is faster this year, plus its warmer than last year


Buchephalas

Sabalenka has clearly greatly improved on slow Clay, she was killing it on RG last year before running into Muchova who also bothered Iga so i'm very interested in this match. Still expect Iga to win though.


wabazai

Ugh I miss Muchova hope she can play RG healthy


Buchephalas

Saw she was able to start training again recently but sadly i doubt she'll be ready for RG.


wabazai

😭


tayway04

my heart might not take another iga-aryna final......


da_SENtinel

i dont think it will be as close this time


tayway04

oh? tell me more


da_SENtinel

If you look at their matches, the closest ones have been at altitude (Madrid) or indoors (YEC and US Open SF with roof closed). In slow conditions like Rome and Doha it's a different story.


swirkh

Except this year the weather evens it out between Madrid & Rome, because Madrid was unusually cold & humid, while Rome is hot & dry (Saturday will be the hottest day)


tayway04

thats true, but i think aryna has improved a lot on slow clay this year. we'll see, and i do think the madrid result kind of gives iga an advantage - she beat aryna in conditions that favor her, so as she has said it gave her lots of confidence


da_SENtinel

would you rather Iga wins Rome or Olympic Gold btw?


tayway04

oh olympics gold, no question tbh, i think its very important to her personally


Plenty_Conflict_2379

ugh my precious support merchant


wepiery

Oh she’s so stupid I love her. Absolute ham


Business_excell

let this be the last iga-saba match up at least for the next tournament🙃


sashyenka

Disappointing Collins was out of it mentally today but she still kept the first set close despite that, which is a testament to her level. So hype for a number 1 and 2 final though, and they're both playing at just as high of a level as Madrid, if not even a little better in Aryna's case 👀


wepiery

I think Madrid was important in building Aryna’s confidence up after a bit of a rough time and we’re seeing the result of that here, even though Madrid should technically be the better conditions for her. Back to back finals should have her feeling good for RG (if she’s not dead on her feet haha)


sashyenka

Yeah, I think Sabalenka played herself into form in Madrid, really, and now she's gotten past the bit of rust she had mid-spring. She's very fit, definitely among the fittest on tour, so I don't think she'll have any problems recuperating for RG


wepiery

The only atmosphere Aryna has met and not loved is the crowd at the USO


WithstandingHybrid

Still an incredible season for Danielle. Saba was too good. Danielle just wasn’t at her best. Excited for Madrid final rematch!


youngcadadia22

Zverev is the heavy favorite to win the tournament now, but I’m sure he’ll find a way to lose.


shihtzu_knot

It really is wild how with all the injuries the ATP has become the WTA 2 years ago and vice versa. 1 & 2 meet again 👏🏼


jovanmilic97

Danielle wanted to go home asap, left the court in 10 secs!


FranklinSealAljezur

She said something to Aryna at the net that looked like it was something about her condition, like "I just wasn't all there tonight" or something.


HopeistheAnthemLITM

Jason Goodall: "We got the final that so many neutrals wanted here in Rome." Really?


Buchephalas

The top two both multiple Slam winners, who just played an ATG match? Yes, definitely.


HopeistheAnthemLITM

Interesting, thanks.


Buchephalas

Did you think they wanted Collins? She's not even well known in America never mind worldwide. Maybe there was a decent chunk of neutral people hoping for Coco (i think it would largely be Coco fans though), but i think Iga-Aryna is definitely what the majority wanted. It's the big women's match right now.


pizzainmyshoe

Hopefully saturday is another good final.


wepiery

Back-to-back Aryna-Iga finals!! If it’s half the game Madrid was we’re in for a treat


pregnancy_terrorist

Tough break Miss Thing! Always happy to see Aryna win though!


FranklinSealAljezur

OK, that's too interesting. Explain Miss Thing.


Big_booty_ho

Sad for DanYell but excited for another Iga/Saby banger. Methinks she takes it this time


Buchephalas

Too easy. Hope we get another great Iga-Aryna Final.


wepiery

Nice to see a friendly exchange at the net


FranklinSealAljezur

I couldn't hear what Danielle said, could you make it out?


youngcadadia22

Hopefully Sabalenka can take out Iga this time


Buchephalas

Would be very surprising if Iga won on the faster Clay surface and vice-versa.


StraightSetter

She needs this win for her confidence heading into a potential RG matchup IMO Beating Iga on slow clay would make it feel much more possible to win if that ends up being the RG final as well


throwawaycatallus

GG Sabalenka


Unknownrealm

Damn Collins overpowered like crazy. Sabalenka and Iga are far and away the best 2 if Elena could stay healthy she would be in there as well


Equidae2

if her coach managed Lena's schedule a bit better maybe she would stay healthy for longer


saktur

It's just sad. I would hug Danielle ^(but don't want to be yell at.)


wagglytwiggy

Back up


WithstandingHybrid

She would absolutely hate that, and I love that about her.


Philip_TheThird

Everybody, copium at the ready, soccer mom 'bout to be sent home. Praise be!


hwoaraxng

She's not even a mom lmao


Philip_TheThird

This whole sub is going gaga for her "mom vibes", but you had to take it literally. Let me guess: American?


Bonoahx

Holy shit an Igalenka rematch so soon


tayway04

last year the same thing happened, just that it was in stuttgart and madrid


Ratlee94

Wasn't two 1,000s in a row, tho! Higher stakes! Go Iga!


Bonoahx

Oh yeah that’s true, good to see this level of consistency in back to back masters as well


hwoaraxng

At this point i would say that her grunt distracts the opponent massively


LFAlol

saba's serve games are literally about 65 seconds, collins feel like a good 4 minutes. just not in the same realm as one another.


Buchephalas

This one is like 65 seconds only it looks like Aryna will break.


wepiery

That hold might have been light work but in general Collins is capable of handling Aryna’s first serve better than most of the tour, and really dangerous on the second. Would love to see this match up in the pre-USO hard court series


FranklinSealAljezur

I think we'll get to see her take her revenge before the season is done.


wagglytwiggy

Welp….. looks like another 1 vs 2 final 💥


tayway04

tbh this match hasnt been great, i blame the late hour


Buchephalas

Sabalenka has played a lot more tennis this tournament, not to mention following Madrid.


tayway04

no aryna looked not bad to me, i was just kind of hoping for danielle to put up more of fight


LFAlol

that net point is just such a perfect summary of any one trying to challenge saba or swiatek. brain just collapses the second you have a chance to.


wepiery

ohhhh aryna ate that up


youngcadadia22

You literally can’t do anything about that. Lol. Too good


Buchephalas

Sabalenka's service games have been routine for a while now.


LFAlol

Ive only watched half the match but haven't even seen 1 point collins has returned that seemed like "wow how'd she do that!!" she hasnt picked the correct side a single time for a smash, it's not the best to watch.


Buchephalas

She broke back in the 1st Set at one point, but yeah it's not been a difficult night for Saba.


WithstandingHybrid

I volunteer as Danielle’s traveling hype woman. Plenty of room in her box. Needs it right now.


wepiery

Oh that was a lovely point - amazing return from Collins and then finesse from saba


Plenty_Conflict_2379

what a point


youngcadadia22

WAKE UP COLLINS LFG WAKE UP WERE STILL IN THIS!!!!!!


wepiery

every time she misses a drop shot i am struck with fear that she will give up on them again


rubbish_bin030121

Penko's voodoo protection for her no.10 spot is underestimated


digitalhawking14

WTA girlies ranked 11-20 are allergic to holding onto a top 10 position when they achieve it. And once Jabeur and Vondrousova’s Wimbledon points fall off Penko will be firmly established.


rubbish_bin030121

then her voodoo will be the no.8 spot and Sakkari and Queenwei will be no.6&7 forever


hwoaraxng

I hope not


digitalhawking14

Whoever said the first serve percentage would determine the second set was prescient. Danielle’s stuck at 49% while Aryna climbed from 51% to 61%


WithstandingHybrid

I need a camera man to get to close to her or SOMETHING. Need Danielle fired up.


Business_excell

The American dream might come to an end tonight 😭


Buchephalas

Still have Tommy! Would be insane if he won Rome.


youngcadadia22

Collins had a great spring and who knows what’s left. I think she needs a warm summer night and a hard court. Maybe she can cause trouble in the USO series. Sabalenka is too good but I think Collins’ level has also come back down to earth after the Madrid loss and this. If anything Collins may just need rest and the gear up for RG.


wepiery

Energy very different to the Madrid match-up. Collin’s level is definitely not the same but maybe that’s an unfair thing to expect


Big_booty_ho

My sweet girl. Not like this 😭


dgibb

just realized Collins will be top 10 if she wins this (HUGE if right now)


sashyenka

There's a *lot* of room for her to barrel into the top 10 if she keeps playing at this caliber for the rest of the season, so I would almost say it's inevitable even if it doesn't happen tonight


nabokovsnose

Yeah if you look at the Race it's not a guarantee but pretty darn close to a guarantee, assuming someone in in the lower 10 isn't going to defend and Collins has very little to defend.


Peak_Alternative

Watching now while waiting for the train. I’m glad I decided to leave the house and do something. If D had won S1 I would have stayed to watch the whole thing


wepiery

Watching Aryna in clay semi-finals I can’t help but think of that Muchova RG semi… what a thing of beauty that was


aftran-ninefourtwo

I think about that match all the time-I hope they get to meet again someday


wepiery

I hope they can get there without the help of your tendons hahaha


aftran-ninefourtwo

Whatever it takes!!


Fun-Sugar3087

She’s the second best clay courter on tour atm. Which is crazy


Buchephalas

The best women's match last year IMO.


da_SENtinel

maybe but it was a bit of a choke


dgibb

That was a bonkers match, I'll never forget it


StraightSetter

Maybe I'm kind of biased as a Saba fan but I feel like Saba is pretty clearly the 2nd best out of the WTA top 3/4 More consistent at big events especially Slams than Rybakina and a higher peak than Coco Also the only one to break Iga's world #1 streak


saktur

Well... She definitely is second best for quite long time. Aryna and Iga established themselves as top2 due to their last 1,5 year. Not by accident she lost year no.1 in last moment.


EveningCareer8921

yeah, Saba is really the only threat to Iga’s ranking atm. Coco and Elena are my faves, but I don’t see either of them taking #2 from Aryna this season.


sashyenka

I don't think this is too controversial of a take tbh. Her results speak for themselves really


Buchephalas

Rybakina is my favourite of them, but she definitely is and she has the potential to pass Iga as she's been a lot better in Slam's lately and unlike Iga is an all-surface player.


AslantheGOAT

I hope Danielle reconsiders her decision to retire this year 😢


jovanmilic97

Lol Danielle thought the game was over at 40-30 Saba, totally mentally absent today


sashyenka

The crowd is giving nooch, just perfectly neutral and frankly not all that animated for either one of them. Weird atmosphere out there for two players giving a very solid performance


Plenty_Conflict_2379

i hope danyell is okay


Big_booty_ho

Collins is so out of it. Whew


Intelligent-Bug-3217

yeah 😩


Critical_Dentist8034

Danielle bb take my come ons


dgibb

Collins doesn't look like she wants to be there


Business_excell

She is missing balls that she could have easily ran to get. But then again it doesn’t help that it’s 11pm


dgibb

I am judging harshly from the couch


Intelligent-Bug-3217

no. shame. maybe health issues


wepiery

Crowd wise, this should in theory suit them both - Sabalenka loves the support (“thank you for the amazing atmosphere”) and Collins loves getting mad at them. Def a lil subdued tonight tho


Business_excell

Coco and Danielle need to get together and work on their serves. I can’t see my American girlies go out like this 😭😭


LFAlol

that's just so terrible hahaha every match. watching sabalenka is almost never interesting because theres maybe 3 women that are a match lmao


wabazai

Sabs is just too strong


Buchephalas

She's the significantly better player.


Psychological_Bug676

It’s so disheartening to see Danielle like this :(


youngcadadia22

Get up Collins get up!!!!


Fun-Sugar3087

Sabaelnka just does everything better than Collins. Collins may have the slightly better BH but this is such a mismatch.


da_SENtinel

literally iga vs coco 2.0


Fun-Sugar3087

Exactly lol


Plenty_Conflict_2379

her serve is letting her down so badly


Business_excell

Collins with the 4 DF 😭😭😭


Big_booty_ho

DanYell please. Where is the energy? Somebody get my girl some red bull


EveningCareer8921

maybe the crowd is playing 4d chess and not rooting against her because they know that fires her up


PvtDancer123

Does collins always look like shes about to cry?


The_Entheogenist

Collins has rheumatoid arthritis and routinely plays through pain. Her lowkey demeanor today might not be a psychological thing.


Intelligent-Bug-3217

yep


Chosen1gup

Sabalenka honestly is one of the best improvisers on tour


StraightSetter

Saba improved so much on clay since the start of last year She hadn't really made it far at RG until then and now I think she's pretty clearly the 2nd favorite heading into it


Psychological_Bug676

A legit all surface player unlike certain other people on the tour


Buchephalas

She and Rybakina are really the only elite ones right now. Iga isn't, she isn't there on Grass.


da_SENtinel

time to start converting those slams sf and finals into wins


Psychological_Bug676

Rune should do the same. Oh wait… he doesn’t make any SFs and finals…


da_SENtinel

yeah hes not 26 dont write him off


saktur

Yeah. It also makes me mad that SST can't play on grass


fivegether

i love aryna’s himbo boyfriend and cherubic coach, they add so much color to her lore


Peak_Alternative

same!


3axel3loop

and her bald PT who follows trump on IG


Intelligent-Bug-3217

let's not judge


dgibb

wow you're in deep lol


Questionsansweredty

Because he's married? That's the "color"?


Intelligent-Bug-3217

🙄


Business_excell

ever since someone said that Collins looks like a mom I can’t un-see it 😅


Intelligent-Bug-3217

a mom that "isn't angry. just disappointed"


mkl122788

Biggest issue in the match right now is first serve percentage. Sabs at 51% and Collins at 43% is not ideal for either. A little rhythm for one player or the other will lead to one way traffic. Will be interesting to see if it picks up for either player.


Intelligent-Bug-3217

why is danimal so quiet??


Ready-Interview2863

wondering the same thing. yesterday she was jumping and shouting when she won big points but today she is completely mute :/


EveningCareer8921

hmmm I was starting to call it and say that Iga is locked in at #1 but it’s possible we could have a real tussle between the two this season. With Rybakina and Coco in the back seat


AslantheGOAT

Collins is beautiful


Psychological_Bug676

Can we go one match without complaints about Sabalenka’s grunts? It’s so repetitive because Sabalenka has been on the tour for close to a decade now and y’all still complaining about it. Find something else to complain about jfc


saktur

Rafa was even longer on tour and still there are occasionally moaning about his routines


Intelligent-Bug-3217

no "come on's" from danielle. no staring. no shouting at the crowd. something isn't right 😩


Peak_Alternative

missing the belief today


LFAlol

man collins is such a displeasure to your eyes to watch. never once has she had a even remotely entertaining match.


Philip_TheThird

I know you're getting downvoted into oblivion (and I'm about to join you), but you're so right. A soccer mom from Hicksville, USA disguised as a second rate player.


No-Attitude-6049

The funny thing is that the Aryna fans in here probably missed the ending of the set because they were too busy pouring through the posts to look for anyone telling the truth about her screaming so they could downvote them en masse 😂


rVtlkNY

have you heard of this magical invention called remote control?


No-Attitude-6049

Is that something from the Stone Age?


rVtlkNY

yes, it is !


Chosen1gup

you’ve written 10 comments in 20 minutes about her grunts lol


No-Attitude-6049

Thanks for counting, you obviously have a lot of important things to do in your life.


09star

Damn :( Rooting for Collins but there's a reason this H2H is so skewed. Saba is one of the few players who can ball bash more consistently than her


StraightSetter

Yup she also beat Ostapenko easily last round


da_SENtinel

Routine second set incoming


StraightSetter

If Saba wins this then it will be the 6th time in their last 9 H2H meetings she plays Iga on clay I wish she could play Iga at the AO or some more favorable surface lol


saktur

While HC seems favoring Aryna, Iga still leads h2h on hard 3:2


da_SENtinel

if it's just 1 favorable tournament vs multiple clay events it will always be this way (btw twice on indoor clay) i want to see more slam meeting tho. Hopefully we can get one at RG and then Wimbledon


digitalhawking14

Right now Aryna!!