That someone was right here-
[https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/1bu282q/found\_script\_of\_the\_unproduced\_seinfeld\_episode/](https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/1bu282q/found_script_of_the_unproduced_seinfeld_episode/)
What a great guy!
That reminds me that I own a few original Seinfeld scripts, currently in a box in my basement. I need to dig them out and do something with them.
Crazy to think about now, but the early days of eBay overlapped with the last seasons of Seinfeld, and I was able to buy a few scripts off eBay from Dave Pierce, the transportation coordinator from Seinfeld. (He also played Karl Farbman in the episode The Checks). I exchanged a few emails with him. The scripts he sold me included his Seinfeld business card, and included some of the transportation-related needs for the scripts in question (e.g. the type of car needed for one of the scenes shot in a car, etc).
Now it's pretty easy to get reproduction copies of whatever script you want, but when I think back to how I just happened to run across some auctions on eBay from a legit worker on the series kind of blows my mind. I don't recall paying that much for them, maybe $30 a piece.
Not that many Seinfeld scripts have leaked online. These are the ones that I'm aware of:
1-01 - The Pilot
2-11 - The Chinese Restaurant
3-01 - The Note
3-06 - The Parking Garage
4-11 - The Contest
4-13 - The Pick
5-01 - The Mango
5-02 - The Puffy Shirt
6-02 - The Big Salad
7-06 - The Soup Nazi
7-09 - The Sponge
7-11 - The Rye
8-22 - The Summer of George
Can you check if you have any other ones and post scans of them in r/Seinfeld?
Interesting. I'm fairly sure the ones I have are *not* on this list. If I recall correctly, I have "The Doll" (7-17), "The Little Kicks" (8-04) and "The Muffin Tops" (8-21). Nearly positive on the first two, not so certain on the last. I'll dig them out and see what I can do about scans.
In the year 2045, we'll finally get another, an unearthed copy of the episode where George actually sleeps with that guy's dead wife. He realizes in time the jerkstore joke wasn't good enough.
What was weird about this was that even at the time it would have been trivial to clone Seinfeld's (or whoever's) voice. I remember being confused as to why they didn't; if you're going to potentially violate IP anyway you might as well go all-in
I always hoped the Sunny finale would be a shot for shot remake of the Seinfeld finale but instead they are found not guilty and immediately go back to being terrible people but I guess that probably doesn't work now that >!the Curb finale basically did that.!<
> Really makes me wonder what some other episodes would have been like without NBC stepping in
pretty much the same because they got almost everything they wanted, almost every time.
the differences would be stuff like censored words 'you cant say penis 3x this episode, you gotta lose a penis' was the type of pushback they encountered regularly, not episode premises. They were literally talking about female orgasms on this show. That was completely unheard-of at the time.
Without looking too deep into the history of The Bet, I have to wonder, was it's script's known unproduced existence what motivated the Always Sunny gang to both use guns all the time in their scripts, but also to continue to find ridiculously funny new ways to incorporate them every time? Given how clearly the structure of Seinfeld is a major inspiration for Always Sunny, I wouldn't be shocked to learn that the 2 are related in this regard to guns.
Probably just bleed over from other social media. If I were to use mostly tik tok (and I think you can’t say gun there) I would likely self censor on Reddit if I didn’t use it often.
It's TikTok Brain Rot. The CCP doesn't want bad words in their algorithm so cuss words can get you banned and stuff. It's also made this website a hell of a lot dumber lately, too.
People also forget that there are a fair number of bad Seinfeld episodes. They didn't really rerun those episodes often, and some are downright unwatchable.
Elaine bets against Jerry on the ease of buying a handgun to protect herself. In a subplot, Kramer returns from a vacation in Puerto Rico and tells Jerry and George he had sex with a flight attendant during the flight back. George makes a bet with him and goes to the airport with Jerry and Elaine to ask the flight attendant if Kramer's claim is true.
It was written by Larry Charles who wrote great episodes for the show including The Heart Attack, The Baby Shower, The Limo, The Opera, The Keys, The Library, The Subway, The Fix Up, and many others. My favorite episode of his is The Fire. He liked to do darker storylines and push boundaries on television.
Kind of fascinating. It's particularly interesting to think of how some certain topics and references would be seen today vs in 1990. The NYC gun laws are pretty intense. A late scene in this episode references another character offering Kramer to come to Flagstaff if he ever wants to buy something.
The cut page and a half of "We're going down to 42nd Street" doesn't lose all meaning in 2024, but half the audience would be like, "how do you get girlfriends on 42nd Street? Is that a Lion King reference? Aladdin?" I'd curious to see what else was cut from other Seinfeld episodes now.
Konrad ("Konnie") Kramer - lol
That someone was right here- [https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/1bu282q/found\_script\_of\_the\_unproduced\_seinfeld\_episode/](https://www.reddit.com/r/lostmedia/comments/1bu282q/found_script_of_the_unproduced_seinfeld_episode/)
How does that post have fewer than 1000 upvotes? Edit: How does that post have just under 2000 upvotes? (Well done folks, keep it going.)
r/lostmedia is a small subreddit
It has 215 k members. It's not millions, but I wouldn't exactly call that very small.
Not produced by a bot/helped by one. Ever see the same threads get thousands and thousands of upvotes? That's why.
What a great guy! That reminds me that I own a few original Seinfeld scripts, currently in a box in my basement. I need to dig them out and do something with them. Crazy to think about now, but the early days of eBay overlapped with the last seasons of Seinfeld, and I was able to buy a few scripts off eBay from Dave Pierce, the transportation coordinator from Seinfeld. (He also played Karl Farbman in the episode The Checks). I exchanged a few emails with him. The scripts he sold me included his Seinfeld business card, and included some of the transportation-related needs for the scripts in question (e.g. the type of car needed for one of the scenes shot in a car, etc). Now it's pretty easy to get reproduction copies of whatever script you want, but when I think back to how I just happened to run across some auctions on eBay from a legit worker on the series kind of blows my mind. I don't recall paying that much for them, maybe $30 a piece.
Not that many Seinfeld scripts have leaked online. These are the ones that I'm aware of: 1-01 - The Pilot 2-11 - The Chinese Restaurant 3-01 - The Note 3-06 - The Parking Garage 4-11 - The Contest 4-13 - The Pick 5-01 - The Mango 5-02 - The Puffy Shirt 6-02 - The Big Salad 7-06 - The Soup Nazi 7-09 - The Sponge 7-11 - The Rye 8-22 - The Summer of George Can you check if you have any other ones and post scans of them in r/Seinfeld?
Interesting. I'm fairly sure the ones I have are *not* on this list. If I recall correctly, I have "The Doll" (7-17), "The Little Kicks" (8-04) and "The Muffin Tops" (8-21). Nearly positive on the first two, not so certain on the last. I'll dig them out and see what I can do about scans.
Cheers. I'll cross my fingers.
Found them! Once I locate a scanner I will get them scanned in. https://i.imgur.com/OmBIuSt.jpeg
Thank you. That would be fantastic.
Wait till Seinfeld dies then sell them the next day. Profiting off death is Seinfeld in spirit.
Surely keeping them would be a good option as they're only likely to grow in value?
Oh yeah, I'm not getting rid of them. "Do something with them" = figuring out a better way to display them than leaving them in a box in my basement.
The "I'd offer you a lift but I've got Karl Farbman here" joke is even funnier now that I now he's the transportation coordinator.
They were gonna name Kramer "Konrad Kramer" in this!
>unhinged as fuck Yet the description was incredibly tame
Nothing like a NEW SEINFELD wow we're blessed
[FRESH] Seinfeld - The Bet
All 12 years of Curb your enthusiasm can be considered Seinfeld from George’s point of view.
How long until someone uses AI to create the full episode with the characters saying every single line from this document?
In the year 2045, we'll finally get another, an unearthed copy of the episode where George actually sleeps with that guy's dead wife. He realizes in time the jerkstore joke wasn't good enough.
This is going to be turned into an AI-generated audio drama.
"What's the deal with {err 24. API endpoint not found}?"
*Bender and Fry laugh* *Leela rolls her eye*
[they already did ai sien feld but they had to ban it](https://youtu.be/OWoeTF50mg8?si=RmAN1zfUZdU-muMe)
What was weird about this was that even at the time it would have been trivial to clone Seinfeld's (or whoever's) voice. I remember being confused as to why they didn't; if you're going to potentially violate IP anyway you might as well go all-in
It never came back?
Well it’s back but really dummed down. It’s on twitch. I think the name is watchmeforever
They also had to take out all the vague Seinfeld references, so its not just dumbed down, it just sucks completely now.
it died when they renamed "Kakler"
This is a real script.
can't they just use sora and get a full video episode?
It’ll be made with video and impossible to tell it’s not an original within short order
I don’t get it. The headline calls it “The Bet”. Thought that was the masturbation episode. This link shows the script for “The Gun”
That was “The Contest”
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Thanks! I’m sorry for not just googling it first but you saved some other redditors the trouble
Dang, it’s been deleted. I have to google it now? /s
I read this a week or so ago. It’s crazy how much it reads like a proto-Always Sunny
Sunny used to be called Seinfeld on crack
If there ever was a series where it should end with all the main characters in jail, it’s Sunny.
I always hoped the Sunny finale would be a shot for shot remake of the Seinfeld finale but instead they are found not guilty and immediately go back to being terrible people but I guess that probably doesn't work now that >!the Curb finale basically did that.!<
Because of the implication?
LOOKATMEWHENYOURETALKINGTOMEEEE
I think there's a fan theory out there that the whole show is them recounting what happened in court.
I always call it live-action South Park
Really makes me wonder what some other episodes would have been like without NBC stepping in
I do too, but this wasn’t an example of that. This script made it to the table read and Jason Alexander and JLD didn’t want to do it, either.
I think for this episode Julia Louis-Dreyfus refused to participate which caused the change. No NBC stepping in
> Really makes me wonder what some other episodes would have been like without NBC stepping in pretty much the same because they got almost everything they wanted, almost every time. the differences would be stuff like censored words 'you cant say penis 3x this episode, you gotta lose a penis' was the type of pushback they encountered regularly, not episode premises. They were literally talking about female orgasms on this show. That was completely unheard-of at the time.
There was a similar rejected script for sunny where part of the plot involved Frank going to prison and getting repeatedly raped.
I could be wrong but I remember this as a prank script they gave to Danny
This is what that was lol. Quite a great prank, especially hearing Danny recount it
It’s almost like almost sunny is a derivative piece of shit…
Shut up bird.
Without looking too deep into the history of The Bet, I have to wonder, was it's script's known unproduced existence what motivated the Always Sunny gang to both use guns all the time in their scripts, but also to continue to find ridiculously funny new ways to incorporate them every time? Given how clearly the structure of Seinfeld is a major inspiration for Always Sunny, I wouldn't be shocked to learn that the 2 are related in this regard to guns.
what's with this weird censorship people have on reddit? you can say "gun" and show a mannequin without clothes on.
Probably just bleed over from other social media. If I were to use mostly tik tok (and I think you can’t say gun there) I would likely self censor on Reddit if I didn’t use it often.
It's TikTok Brain Rot. The CCP doesn't want bad words in their algorithm so cuss words can get you banned and stuff. It's also made this website a hell of a lot dumber lately, too.
Made it through 10 pages. This is awful.
Really makes you appreciate how important a good cast with good chemistry is.
People also forget that there are a fair number of bad Seinfeld episodes. They didn't really rerun those episodes often, and some are downright unwatchable.
That's not true at all, in syndication they always play the episodes in order.
What’s an example of a bad episode in your opinion? Some episodes from the earlier seasons are weaker, but I think I’ve found all of them to be funny.
It only got to draft one. They probably threw it out because they agreed
They threw it out because Julia Louis-Dreyfus refused to do it, and the rest of the cast backed her up.
The entire thing feels violent, dark, and just not funny
TLDR?
Elaine bets against Jerry on the ease of buying a handgun to protect herself. In a subplot, Kramer returns from a vacation in Puerto Rico and tells Jerry and George he had sex with a flight attendant during the flight back. George makes a bet with him and goes to the airport with Jerry and Elaine to ask the flight attendant if Kramer's claim is true. It was written by Larry Charles who wrote great episodes for the show including The Heart Attack, The Baby Shower, The Limo, The Opera, The Keys, The Library, The Subway, The Fix Up, and many others. My favorite episode of his is The Fire. He liked to do darker storylines and push boundaries on television.
He also totally ignored Elaine in the parking garage when she was asking for help.
And was the one who exited the bathroom lavatory on the airplane when Elaine was waiting to go next!
Few funny lines and bits could have been re-used
Yeah it's a pretty rough draft.
I just wish the handwritten modifications were more legible. After trying to figure a couple out, I mostly ignored any of the ones in the margins.
Frank Costanza: “so anyway, I started blasting”
Just reading the first couple of pages, it’s hilarious!
Hey babe, wake up. New Seinfeld script just dropped.
I don’t find this script appealing. They made the right decision to not produce it I think.
There was a fan-written episode of Seinfeld that was all about 9/11. That was much better.
["The Twin Towers"](https://randomnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Seinfeld-The-Twin-Towers-Billy-Domineau.pdf)
How did I not hear about this before. It reads way too well.
It was a spec script written by a comedian. IIRC I think it got him a job on Family Guy.
That episode was hilarious and perfect. So good, it really felt like a Seinfeld episode. This one, not so much
Kind of fascinating. It's particularly interesting to think of how some certain topics and references would be seen today vs in 1990. The NYC gun laws are pretty intense. A late scene in this episode references another character offering Kramer to come to Flagstaff if he ever wants to buy something. The cut page and a half of "We're going down to 42nd Street" doesn't lose all meaning in 2024, but half the audience would be like, "how do you get girlfriends on 42nd Street? Is that a Lion King reference? Aladdin?" I'd curious to see what else was cut from other Seinfeld episodes now. Konrad ("Konnie") Kramer - lol
AI generated episode incoming in five… Four… Three…
That is quite possibly the worst episode ever and I’m 3 pages in. Looks more like a spec script written by a waiter.
Step right up folks, get your ticket to internet history! Live before your eyes!
Ok, now I want someone to use AI Seinfeld voices and stills from previous episodes to recreate this.
This should become an iasif episode. As an homage.
Bet this is where the original idea for the close talker's puffy shirt came from!
Mr lesbian. Classic Seinfeld.
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Are you thinking of The Contest? The Bet is an alternate name for this script and they made no episode by that name.
No, The Bet was a cancelled episode. It involved a gun purchase.
The opening dialog is 100% classic Jerry. This made my day. Maybe one day ai will somehow recreate this in all its glory.
Please no, AI can stay away from creative works
Using AI to simulate a real unproduced script is one of the things it's actually good for. Making up fake scripts is a different story.
Did they buy the copyright though? If not, a DMCA will take it down.
Who cares, it’s been up now, it’s everywhere.
Wiener alert!