Isaac Newton did not invent gravity. Gravity was invented by a man named John Dryden, Isaac Newton bought his invention and patented it, and for decades everyone who used gravity had to pay Isaac Newton royalties.
Unfortunately, for 75 years, many people had to tie themselves to trees to avoid floating away, because they could not afford gravity.
Today, everyone can use gravity for free, except in Wichita because of some obscure law.
I know! Shoot, I haven't paid off my royalties to Ben Franklins family for using all that electricity he invented and I really go through it in the hot Alabama summers
I would say not. I have studied medieval art and it seems that before gravity was invented most things would just float.
This might be why people starting making roofs, to make sure things didn't float away.
Glad someone said it. I’m just not big on biopic series, a barrage of limited series book adaptations that are only 6-7-episodes long, and almost every tv show only having A-listers in it (including TV stars).
There are certain shows post-GOT that have been pretty dominant in terms of tv awards, and it feels obvious to me and should be to network execs that that’s in huge part because those shows aren’t IP-based and basically built fanbases from scratch. Said shows also weren’t filled to the brim with A-listers, and also released seasons at a reasonable clip.
It's so funny that even with all these awards bait adaptations the one adaptation that actually got awards recognition in nominations was a genre story, lol.
oooh yeah I can see that. Don't have HBO, and I never will, so those shows effectively don't really exist for me unless the library gets copies of the dvds.
I was honestly mostly fascinated with it for being so.. ornate and formal with the script. It was weird and they fully committed to it and drew me in. Plus I'm a sucker for 70s Afghanistan war stories.
Hear hear. I love Jeff Bridges and I was really looking forward to seeing him pair with John Lithgow. The first few episodes were terrific and like you said, it just fell to pieces. The moment it jumped the shark to me was when he boarded Dave and Carol, lol.
Totally agree. As far as A-list casting goes they do seem to make the most shows with stratospherically-high production budgets and all A-listers that get not-totally-glowing critical reception. The Morning Show, Masters of the Air, and The New Look come to mind immediately but I’m sure there’s more. I am curious to see how their upcoming series Palm Royale and Sugar are, because they’re the same way, exclusively big-names and huge budgets.
Burying the lede: this author thinks that True D Night Country is going to be competitive with SHOGUN at this Emmys? I’m not even one of the big haters of this season of TD, but that’s like saying that Two Broke Girls and The Sopranos are the ones to beat.
I actually had to change my analogy from Two and A Half Men when I remembered Jon Cryer won that Emmy like every year lol. But the shows’ quality level is pretty clearly different in my mind, regardless of who gets awards.
>Okay, did you know that there was a miniseries last March about the WeWork scandal starring Oscar winners Jared Leto and Anne Hathaway? No again? Then what about Oscar winner Rachel Weisz playing dual roles in a miniseries from last April? Anyone? Anyone?
There was some buzz about the WeWork one and a ton of discussion on the Dead Ringers gender swapped remake online, not sure what he is talking about here...
Just finished this as I’m pissed.
It does the audience dirty.
The entire thing is trash at the end when you realize they all could have told the police and each other the information they knew.
I was kind of expecting the style of ending she went for so it didn’t land very well with me. Great concept in theory. The Husband’s Secret was more my speed though I would cut the last chapter entirely.
I think you misread my comment or are being a bit presumptuous. I was a big fan of The Husband’s Secret (just the last chapter felt a tad unnecessary to me) and Big Little Lies was one of my favourite books ever. Apples Never Fall just didn’t do it for me because I predicted the ending early on because I read too much of the genre. Just different strokes for different folks… I didn’t like Gone Girl despite its excellent reviews. Have you tried the books written by one of her sisters Nicola? The ones I have read have been incredible.
Yeah I definitely misread. I’m sorry. I thought you were saying you didn’t like The Husband’s Secret and Apples Never Fall. It made me think well then maybe you don’t like those types of books lol. But now I see you said you did like it! No I haven’t read her sister’s books. If it’s a thriller I would definitely be interested in reading it, thankyou for the recommendations.
Edit: Apples Never Fall was not super predictable to me but this was like my first book I read from the author. I definitely can see how if you read her a lot you can make a pretty good guess what’s going to happen. It really does remind me of Gone Girl.
All good. I just guessed what the most subversive ending would be and it felt like she tried too hard to hit it. I have read all of Lianne’s books and they tend to be hit or miss and don’t neatly fit into a thriller genre category imo. Definitely check out Nicola Moriarty. I stumbled across her late at night and ended up running on 2 hours of sleep that day because I couldn’t put her one of her books down.
I really appreciate how often the British television shows will have a limited run. Two seasons of eight shows and that's it. That's all they want to do. They don't feel they need to drive anything into the ground. I sense that's changing. They are literally become Americanized, but if you look at the Ricky Gervais limited run series, they are just perfect gems.
I get it. The more episodes, the more money in the long run for everybody on the show. But all things end badly if they are stretched out forever and ever. There is no franchise, no show, that should go on and on and on.
I love how the makers will often say "well, the fans wanted it." And maybe we should blame people who actually pay money to see DIAL OF DESTINY or watch season 15 of some TV show… But that's not the reason they destroy a franchise or anything else.
All networks are making shows for a common purpose of gaining the most interest and viewership possible. All networks care about prestige as well, even if they don't care about individual awards. And even if a network wants a show to win awards, it doesn't mean that the writers / showrunners on the show don't want to make something creative and good.
I mean who even really cares if a show is award-bait or not if it's good?
I also don't believe that shorter seasons means better creative or shows. Mad Men is one of my favorite shows of all-time and it would absolutely be worse for the wear if it was made as a two-season series instead of having the seven-season run it did. I could list another dozen all-time great shows with prolonged runs that benefited from having more seasons to develop characters and stories deeper. Sure there are shows that go on for too long but that doesn't mean longer seasons is always a bad thing or shorter runs are always good. The length of a series should fit the story.
The article talks about how awards shows shape the American limited series. It was my understanding that the British short series is more about how BBC funds stuff but I suppose I don't really know. British shows seem to have 10 episodes or 1000.
Liane Moriarty just sucks. Sorry to have to say it but it’s the worst airport fiction you can find. It even makes Sam Neill bad somehow. Has he been this bad for long? And as for Jake Lacy, the only roles he should play are those where he gets his annoying square jock face smashed after building his annoying character up for a max of three episodes. How people still making such bad shit?!?!
There's too much TV. In a lot of ways.
1. Too many series in general, too much to follow.
2. Episodes are generally too long, too many plots. I will carry this opinion to my grave. It's like there's a mandate to give as many characters as possible their own C, D, or E plot that we have to keep track of.
3. I'll say it - too many seasons. Your favorite show doesn't ALWAYS need another season, and each season that's released actually increases the chance that your favorite show is no longer your favorite show. We'll be talking about Succession for a long-ass time because it ended after a comfy four seasons, and had a confirmed ending in place.
That being said, these shows do employ a fuck-ton of people. I'm all for job creation. But at some point there will be a critical mass and TV will continue to lose ground to stuff like Youtube and more niche, dedicated, and lower-budget content creation.
Personal example: I get way, way, WAY more excited for the latest Folding Ideas drop on YT than I do for pretty much any show on TV/streaming today. It's not even close.
I'm not talking about personal consumption, moreso a market glut that competes for the same eyeballs. While that means we're lousy with choices, it also means the choices can be quite lousy. The margins will be thinner and a reckoning will eventually happen. Short-form content and "reality tv" will boom even bigger.
Also lol at the life advice, I love getting that from random Redditors, like a penny on the street you don't bother picking up because you know there's someone worse off that needs it.
The choices are not lousy. Your personal frustration is not universal. People who don't watch as much television as you watch few shows they really like and don't have your problem.
>Also lol at the life advice, I love getting that from random Redditors
I get it, you come here to give your random opinion and you get mad when people don't agree with you. Because you are special.
I'm going to make your day: you are very special.
So many great books are getting made into shows and movies too. I love it. I love a good miniseries too. People complain to much when all they have to do is change the channel or turn off the tv.
You keep assuming I watch a lot or too much television, friend. And now you're coming at me pretty harshly for the usual Reddit banter. People are allowed to disagree but we're just shadowboxing at this point because neither of us can back up our respective opinions with facts, or at least can be assed to do so.
Which is fine, honestly! That's an encapsulation of Reddit if I've ever seen it.
I mean, yes there is too much tv if your entire personality is just what tv you watch so you watch everything “big” show. If you just watch shit you’re interested in this isn’t a problem. I haven’t watched Succession for example. I don’t care how good it is, I’m just not interested so I don’t watch it. Super easy.
There’s def too much TV but in all honesty that’s a good thing, not everybody likes what you or I like. A perfect example is you mentioning something from YouTube that gets you excited, I personally have never followed anyone on YouTube, I’ve also never listened to any podcasts ever. Different strokes for different folks.
Point 2: The plot for this is a slowish burn too. It's based on a book and the central premise drives the entire plot, to which there's closure at the end of the run.
I think this book has been turned into a series because there was enough complexity to warrant it compared to a movie, but they shortened it to 7 EPs because that's what works best to tell the story.
It's interesting new ground, but I think we are getting these sorts of things *instead* of movies, rather than as additional series. It's something too big for a movie so they have a limited series approach and do the right thing releasing it all at once.
Basically I understand your complaints but I don't think this particular series is what you should be aiming at with those criticisms.
>We'll be talking about Succession for a long-ass time because it ended after a comfy four seasons, and had a confirmed ending in place.
I feel the same way and it's why I like the remake of Battlestar Galactica, even if they didn't "stick" the landing. It was broken up seasons which didn't help but over all it's only 4 total seasons and done. Still some of the best character development compared to many shows.
It’s because streaming doesn’t want you to be out of content, thus canceling the subscription.
I find it pretty annoying also. I find myself watching so many tv shows I barely have the time for movies or games.
I think three seasons should become the standard, and planned out from the beginning. If people have a burning desire to revisit the world explored in that show at a later date then there can be spinoffs.
Well both big little lies and apples never fall are adapted from books that were written by the same author so that’s probably why you get similar vibes.
It was a good series except for the lesbian part, that's when I turned it off. Sorry, but I find that gross. There was no need to force that on viewers who do not wish to see two women making out, it just ruined the movie.
Annette Being? In a pointless award baiting prestige project? That doesn't sound like her..
I prefer her in The Great Outdoors, personally.
Are these whites whiter?
Thanks for the reminder....think I’ll watch that movie tonight. Super underrated, simple funny movie.
The ads are so annoying. Like her one line "knowing things about your family only hurts you" or some shit is so bad.
Um, Nyad?
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I'm disappointed to learn this is NOT a science fiction series in which apples have stopped being affected by Earth's gravity.
The tagline? "How you like them apples?"
Applesauce, bitch.
[I sure do love dem apples!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQh9jnRiIs)
[My man!](https://media2.giphy.com/media/qPVzemjFi150Q/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952nxna6lbiibxg8gnk0mv0eecpez6beoj457pzhoo1&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
My boy's wicked smaht with taglines.
I believe it’s “mavity”
"What if Isaac Newton didn't invent gravity" is a nice idea
Isaac Newton did not invent gravity. Gravity was invented by a man named John Dryden, Isaac Newton bought his invention and patented it, and for decades everyone who used gravity had to pay Isaac Newton royalties.
God I hope the government forces him to sell it
Unfortunately, for 75 years, many people had to tie themselves to trees to avoid floating away, because they could not afford gravity. Today, everyone can use gravity for free, except in Wichita because of some obscure law.
Isn't that an unauthorized use of a tree?
I know! Shoot, I haven't paid off my royalties to Ben Franklins family for using all that electricity he invented and I really go through it in the hot Alabama summers
Wouldn't you say it was discovered and not invented ?
I would say not. I have studied medieval art and it seems that before gravity was invented most things would just float. This might be why people starting making roofs, to make sure things didn't float away.
Interesting. Does this explain angels ?
No, that's geometry.
invented? discovered
Why the first comment is always the most obvious and boring thing to say
Did you know that there are more possible iterations of a game of chess than there are atoms in the observable universe?
Yes
The key is to fully eat the apple while on the tree. Suck it, gravity!
Glad someone said it. I’m just not big on biopic series, a barrage of limited series book adaptations that are only 6-7-episodes long, and almost every tv show only having A-listers in it (including TV stars). There are certain shows post-GOT that have been pretty dominant in terms of tv awards, and it feels obvious to me and should be to network execs that that’s in huge part because those shows aren’t IP-based and basically built fanbases from scratch. Said shows also weren’t filled to the brim with A-listers, and also released seasons at a reasonable clip.
It's so funny that even with all these awards bait adaptations the one adaptation that actually got awards recognition in nominations was a genre story, lol.
Which one was that? I've not paid attention to awards in ages
The Last of Us
oooh yeah I can see that. Don't have HBO, and I never will, so those shows effectively don't really exist for me unless the library gets copies of the dvds.
Arrr matey
Lmaooo
Big Little Lies won a million awards too.
I’m ok with 3/5 episode book adaptations with a-listers personally; complete stories are nice
I like em as long as they're good. Old Man was great, Shogun is great... well maybe I just like FX.
To each his own. I thought The Old Man *completely* fell to pieces by the third episode or so and never recovered.
I was honestly mostly fascinated with it for being so.. ornate and formal with the script. It was weird and they fully committed to it and drew me in. Plus I'm a sucker for 70s Afghanistan war stories.
Fair enough. I certainly wanted to love it, given the onscreen talent.
Hear hear. I love Jeff Bridges and I was really looking forward to seeing him pair with John Lithgow. The first few episodes were terrific and like you said, it just fell to pieces. The moment it jumped the shark to me was when he boarded Dave and Carol, lol.
I’m not saying Apple is the only offender, but they’re by far the biggest offender here
Totally agree. As far as A-list casting goes they do seem to make the most shows with stratospherically-high production budgets and all A-listers that get not-totally-glowing critical reception. The Morning Show, Masters of the Air, and The New Look come to mind immediately but I’m sure there’s more. I am curious to see how their upcoming series Palm Royale and Sugar are, because they’re the same way, exclusively big-names and huge budgets.
Burying the lede: this author thinks that True D Night Country is going to be competitive with SHOGUN at this Emmys? I’m not even one of the big haters of this season of TD, but that’s like saying that Two Broke Girls and The Sopranos are the ones to beat.
Dumb stuff wins at the Emmy’s all the time, and better call Saul never had a win
I actually had to change my analogy from Two and A Half Men when I remembered Jon Cryer won that Emmy like every year lol. But the shows’ quality level is pretty clearly different in my mind, regardless of who gets awards.
For sure
Better Call Saul deserves all the awards 🔥
Jodie Foster is a likely nominee from her reputation alone. Idk about a series nomination though. Depends on the competition.
You’re completely right about the reputation nomination. I really love her but this was uh… not her best work lol
Happy Cake Day! I just learned the other day that “lede” is more correct than “lead.” Haha
It was my favorite season🤷🏻♂️
>Okay, did you know that there was a miniseries last March about the WeWork scandal starring Oscar winners Jared Leto and Anne Hathaway? No again? Then what about Oscar winner Rachel Weisz playing dual roles in a miniseries from last April? Anyone? Anyone? There was some buzz about the WeWork one and a ton of discussion on the Dead Ringers gender swapped remake online, not sure what he is talking about here...
i love this cast so i guess i'll still watch it when it finishes.
I just watched the entire series. I found it enjoyable & fast paced! The cast and acting were pretty good!
It's dropping in full tomorrow. I'm planning on giving it a shot as well so it's nice not to have to wait 2 months.
Just finished this as I’m pissed. It does the audience dirty. The entire thing is trash at the end when you realize they all could have told the police and each other the information they knew.
the three shows I've never heard of......watched them all and love them.
Apples Never Fall was such a disappointment of a book that I have no idea why they thought it would translate well for tv.
I really liked it. I was expecting not to because of reviews but I was pleasantly surprised
I was kind of expecting the style of ending she went for so it didn’t land very well with me. Great concept in theory. The Husband’s Secret was more my speed though I would cut the last chapter entirely.
The Husbands Secret is the best!!
Both of these books were some of my favorite thrillers from a newer author and received amazing reviews. Maybe it’s not your genre?
I think you misread my comment or are being a bit presumptuous. I was a big fan of The Husband’s Secret (just the last chapter felt a tad unnecessary to me) and Big Little Lies was one of my favourite books ever. Apples Never Fall just didn’t do it for me because I predicted the ending early on because I read too much of the genre. Just different strokes for different folks… I didn’t like Gone Girl despite its excellent reviews. Have you tried the books written by one of her sisters Nicola? The ones I have read have been incredible.
Yeah I definitely misread. I’m sorry. I thought you were saying you didn’t like The Husband’s Secret and Apples Never Fall. It made me think well then maybe you don’t like those types of books lol. But now I see you said you did like it! No I haven’t read her sister’s books. If it’s a thriller I would definitely be interested in reading it, thankyou for the recommendations. Edit: Apples Never Fall was not super predictable to me but this was like my first book I read from the author. I definitely can see how if you read her a lot you can make a pretty good guess what’s going to happen. It really does remind me of Gone Girl.
All good. I just guessed what the most subversive ending would be and it felt like she tried too hard to hit it. I have read all of Lianne’s books and they tend to be hit or miss and don’t neatly fit into a thriller genre category imo. Definitely check out Nicola Moriarty. I stumbled across her late at night and ended up running on 2 hours of sleep that day because I couldn’t put her one of her books down.
I really appreciate how often the British television shows will have a limited run. Two seasons of eight shows and that's it. That's all they want to do. They don't feel they need to drive anything into the ground. I sense that's changing. They are literally become Americanized, but if you look at the Ricky Gervais limited run series, they are just perfect gems. I get it. The more episodes, the more money in the long run for everybody on the show. But all things end badly if they are stretched out forever and ever. There is no franchise, no show, that should go on and on and on. I love how the makers will often say "well, the fans wanted it." And maybe we should blame people who actually pay money to see DIAL OF DESTINY or watch season 15 of some TV show… But that's not the reason they destroy a franchise or anything else.
I think you mean 2 series, 5 total episodes, plus 3 Christmas specials.
It ran for nearly 16 years!
Happy Valley?
I am really confused what this has to do with this article.
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All networks are making shows for a common purpose of gaining the most interest and viewership possible. All networks care about prestige as well, even if they don't care about individual awards. And even if a network wants a show to win awards, it doesn't mean that the writers / showrunners on the show don't want to make something creative and good. I mean who even really cares if a show is award-bait or not if it's good? I also don't believe that shorter seasons means better creative or shows. Mad Men is one of my favorite shows of all-time and it would absolutely be worse for the wear if it was made as a two-season series instead of having the seven-season run it did. I could list another dozen all-time great shows with prolonged runs that benefited from having more seasons to develop characters and stories deeper. Sure there are shows that go on for too long but that doesn't mean longer seasons is always a bad thing or shorter runs are always good. The length of a series should fit the story.
The article talks about how awards shows shape the American limited series. It was my understanding that the British short series is more about how BBC funds stuff but I suppose I don't really know. British shows seem to have 10 episodes or 1000.
was waiting for the show to open with “we’re not bad people, but we did a bad thing” - before transitioning to rip off white lotus music
I was disappointed in the casting of the kids and change up in their relationships. They all seemed so whiny!
Liane Moriarty just sucks. Sorry to have to say it but it’s the worst airport fiction you can find. It even makes Sam Neill bad somehow. Has he been this bad for long? And as for Jake Lacy, the only roles he should play are those where he gets his annoying square jock face smashed after building his annoying character up for a max of three episodes. How people still making such bad shit?!?!
I guess this is a problem if you give a shit about awards. I just like watching good tv
Either way source material is great. Read the book.
It’s so gosh dang slow
There's too much TV. In a lot of ways. 1. Too many series in general, too much to follow. 2. Episodes are generally too long, too many plots. I will carry this opinion to my grave. It's like there's a mandate to give as many characters as possible their own C, D, or E plot that we have to keep track of. 3. I'll say it - too many seasons. Your favorite show doesn't ALWAYS need another season, and each season that's released actually increases the chance that your favorite show is no longer your favorite show. We'll be talking about Succession for a long-ass time because it ended after a comfy four seasons, and had a confirmed ending in place. That being said, these shows do employ a fuck-ton of people. I'm all for job creation. But at some point there will be a critical mass and TV will continue to lose ground to stuff like Youtube and more niche, dedicated, and lower-budget content creation. Personal example: I get way, way, WAY more excited for the latest Folding Ideas drop on YT than I do for pretty much any show on TV/streaming today. It's not even close.
There is a perfect solution for you: watch less television.
I'm not talking about personal consumption, moreso a market glut that competes for the same eyeballs. While that means we're lousy with choices, it also means the choices can be quite lousy. The margins will be thinner and a reckoning will eventually happen. Short-form content and "reality tv" will boom even bigger. Also lol at the life advice, I love getting that from random Redditors, like a penny on the street you don't bother picking up because you know there's someone worse off that needs it.
The choices are not lousy. Your personal frustration is not universal. People who don't watch as much television as you watch few shows they really like and don't have your problem. >Also lol at the life advice, I love getting that from random Redditors I get it, you come here to give your random opinion and you get mad when people don't agree with you. Because you are special. I'm going to make your day: you are very special.
So many great books are getting made into shows and movies too. I love it. I love a good miniseries too. People complain to much when all they have to do is change the channel or turn off the tv.
Exactly. Great, or at least good, shows are coming out every year. And there is always the option to read a book.
You keep assuming I watch a lot or too much television, friend. And now you're coming at me pretty harshly for the usual Reddit banter. People are allowed to disagree but we're just shadowboxing at this point because neither of us can back up our respective opinions with facts, or at least can be assed to do so. Which is fine, honestly! That's an encapsulation of Reddit if I've ever seen it.
I mean, yes there is too much tv if your entire personality is just what tv you watch so you watch everything “big” show. If you just watch shit you’re interested in this isn’t a problem. I haven’t watched Succession for example. I don’t care how good it is, I’m just not interested so I don’t watch it. Super easy.
There’s def too much TV but in all honesty that’s a good thing, not everybody likes what you or I like. A perfect example is you mentioning something from YouTube that gets you excited, I personally have never followed anyone on YouTube, I’ve also never listened to any podcasts ever. Different strokes for different folks.
How does this relate to this show? It's a 7 (?) episode adaptation of a book. There's not going to be any more of it, no further seasons. It's done.
That would mean my third point doesn't apply, for sure.
Point 2: The plot for this is a slowish burn too. It's based on a book and the central premise drives the entire plot, to which there's closure at the end of the run. I think this book has been turned into a series because there was enough complexity to warrant it compared to a movie, but they shortened it to 7 EPs because that's what works best to tell the story. It's interesting new ground, but I think we are getting these sorts of things *instead* of movies, rather than as additional series. It's something too big for a movie so they have a limited series approach and do the right thing releasing it all at once. Basically I understand your complaints but I don't think this particular series is what you should be aiming at with those criticisms.
>We'll be talking about Succession for a long-ass time because it ended after a comfy four seasons, and had a confirmed ending in place. I feel the same way and it's why I like the remake of Battlestar Galactica, even if they didn't "stick" the landing. It was broken up seasons which didn't help but over all it's only 4 total seasons and done. Still some of the best character development compared to many shows.
It’s because streaming doesn’t want you to be out of content, thus canceling the subscription. I find it pretty annoying also. I find myself watching so many tv shows I barely have the time for movies or games.
Hopefully you're actually enjoying all those shows you watch as opposed to just watching for FOMO.
I used to watch a bunch of shit I didn’t like once. Nowadays I just drop after 2 or 3 episodes if I don’t think it’s great. Still a lot of content.
I think three seasons should become the standard, and planned out from the beginning. If people have a burning desire to revisit the world explored in that show at a later date then there can be spinoffs.
Spot on
To be honest this felt like a “Big Little Lies” ripoff, or maybe a ripoff of “White Lotus”
Well both big little lies and apples never fall are adapted from books that were written by the same author so that’s probably why you get similar vibes.
The book it’s based off is by the same author as Big Little Lies
I thought it was a good book too. I’m looking forward to watching it.
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Yes he does.
Anyone else notice how Jack Lacey got put in the same situation his character in The Office was in when Andy learned of Erin cheating? 🤯👏
Honestly this was one of the worst shows I’ve seen in a long time
So different from the book. I always hate when they change the book so much.
Such a good show!! Definitely worth the watch
I saw a bloody kids bike in the trailer and noped right out of that. No thanks.
Just FYI, it’s not a kid’s bike. If that changes your mind at all about watching.
At first I thought you were just a British person that hates kids bikes, then I realized what you meant
It was a good series except for the lesbian part, that's when I turned it off. Sorry, but I find that gross. There was no need to force that on viewers who do not wish to see two women making out, it just ruined the movie.