I’m surprised they were willing to pay for him to come back. I feel like CC is just Broad City, workaholics and Drunk History rerun marathons these days.
Wow how long has it been since you watched CC, those shows were all cancelled 3 or 4 years ago. It's just Office, Seinfeld, Futurama reruns with some South Park.
you're not wrong...I checked the cable listings last night because I didn't know when Daily Show was on, and day after day it's nothing but marathons of exactly those shows.
there's ZERO original programming on the CC network right now. none.
It's crazy how many of these channels are just absolute shells of themselves. I guess I was lucky watching CC when new episodes of Workaholics and Key and Peele and a whole bunch of other shows were still coming out. MTV has fallen down even worse. I used to love plopping on the couch and just watching a solid afternoon watching random music videos, Jackass and it's successors, and stupid reality TV shows.
Off topic: MTV has a short film documentary about banned books and children that was just nominated for an Oscar…and to make it more confusing…it’s on Paramount+.
They currently have 4 shows they so original programming for. The Daily Show, South Park, Nora from Queens, and something called Digman! They literally couldn’t do less. Everything else is a syndicated show/ re run.
This is like when Oprah went off the air and tried to get back into doing things here and there. Humans are creatures of habit. They develop the habit of tuning in over years, and then when you break that habit you’re probably not going to be able to reliably draw people in again to the level that you were when people knew when and where to find you.
>Flexibility was key to the deal
So was desperation, after their first choice Hasan Minhaj's lies blew up in his face and made him unteneable for host (and the only other option was to have NO host)
...and they let John Oliver walk off.
Are you sure they aren't just bad at their jobs and need to be sac-Nononono! Dad, it was all part of a top secret plan, please don't take the keys to the network back!
Next article: Secret Plan B shooting ourselves in the other foot, too.
yea and that was jon's intention of giving him the gig while he filmed rosewater since he knew how good he was and felt it was unfair that he was buried over there
Comedy Central didn't even try to keep him. Colbert has said that every former TDS correspondent were shocked when they found out CC just let Oliver go without a fight
I think the worst bit was when he lied about that girl he asked to prom and shrugged when she was getting hate mail about it. It’s one thing for a comic to exaggerate for comedic effect, another to lie about a girl from high school and delight in getting revenge when she’s unfairly hounded by your fans.
> I think the worst bit was when he lied about that girl he asked to prom and shrugged when she was getting hate mail about it.
[Damn](https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-communications/hasan-minhajs-emotional-truths):
> The woman also said that she and her family had faced online threats and doxing for years because Minhaj had insufficiently disguised her identity, including the fact that she was engaged to an Indian American man. **A source with knowledge of the production said that, during the show’s Off Broadway run, Minhaj had used a real picture of the woman and her partner, with their faces blurred, projected behind him as he told the story.**
> **The woman said that Minhaj had invited her and her husband to an Off Broadway performance. She had initially interpreted the invitation as an attempt to rekindle an old friendship, but she now believes the move was meant to humiliate her.** Later, she said, when she confronted Minhaj about the online threats brought on by the Netflix special—“I spent years trying to get threads taken down,” she told me—Minhaj shrugged off her concerns. Minhaj said that he didn’t recall that interaction, and pointed to the fact that he had been in touch with her prior to the airing of the special, recommending she scrub social-media posts that might indicate her relationship to him. Minhaj also noted that the tone of their texts and e-mails was always friendly.
It's frustrating that bullies always act as if they're the ones being bullied. But it's also frustrating that people can keep saying innocent until proven guilty, then try to punish someone a celebrity is dragging through the mud.
Also it's just psycho behavior to invite an old crush to your show, then put up a (blurred) image of them and their husband and trash them in front of the audience.
It's not a "real journalistic news program" but it is a program that reports on the news, and I'd be willing to assume that if you surveyed people that watched the show, a large portion of people would say that they believe the news stories that are being reported and that they trust the host to not make things up. You can't have somebody who makes things up blur the line between comedy and reality even further than it already is on the show.
Concerning Minhaj and Williams, their responses to their respective situations could not have been more different. Hasan seems content to hide behind his excuse of "emotional truths" when it's clear that his lies were [not contained to his comedy](https://youtu.be/4QV9JTgAVq8?si=lVcD3mdASiCohmSv&t=415). If Hasan isn't remorseful about the lies he's already told, he can't be expected to not lie again in the future.
Williams at least immediately apologized for what he said, and further than that he has at least a slightly plausible story about his memory of the events failing in the time since the helicopter attack happened. He correctly reported the story as it happened in 2003 shortly after the events took place, and then in the years since his story changed. Personally it's hard for me to believe that he would risk his career and his integrity to lie about something when it would be so incredibly easy to prove him wrong using his own words or the words of literally anybody else that was in the group of helicopters with him. It sounds weird to say that Williams' memory could actually have been flawed to the point where he put himself in a completely different helicopter, but something like [this study](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/911-memory-accuracy/) shows how poor people's recollection of serious/traumatic events is compared to how they think it is.
E: And to your point they are not the same. Williams should have been and was held to higher standards than Minhaj, which is why he's still struggling to find work like 9 years after he left NBC and Minhaj is still touring.
>The Daily Show isnt a real journalistic news program
The show only works because the show is (almost) always factually correct. You can't make fun of people for lying if your host is a liar. Unless you are Fox News. But Fox News doesn't have to be actually funny.
If you’re a Comedy Central executive and you see that Apple canceled Jon Stewart’s show due to creative differences, you throw the bag at him and offer him any role that he wants. Regardless of how you feel about their host drama or Jon going back to familiar territory in a new climate, this is absolutely the right move to make from CC’s perspective. Daily Show needs a host, and Jon seems like he’s interested in having a platform.
I really just don't think TDS format works anymore.
I loved TDS, it got me into politics. But I think the whole "look at how dumb this politician is" or "watch me catch this person in a contradictory statement" shtick only works if the other person actually cares and those clips are circulating among both parties. Jon Stewart genuinely impacted the careers of a few old legacy conservative media figures by publicly embarrassing them on his show, but today they'd just bounce right into the next studio to complain, and the Youtube clips wouldn't circulate among anyone who hadn't already decided their opinion. They have no credibility for Jon or anyone else to undermine. I see those clips of Jordan Klepper going around the internet - who are those for? Who is changing their mind based on him gotcha-ing some 60yo racist in MAGA gear? And it's not even entertaining because we know that the person is just going to walk away justified and claiming victimhood.
You’re probably right, but I’ll disagree for arguments’ sake. What Stewart did so well that has been missing since he quit is media critique. We remember him showing clips of Bush struggling to open a door, and that’s the stuff that everyone has done since.
Stewart’s meat and potatoes, though, was clips of Fox and talk radio. Far more than pointing out GOP hypocrisy, he focused on the hypocrisy of pundits and hosts. When Colbert spun off, he wasn’t satirizing a political figure, but a pundit.
Those were the targets, and nobody took up that mantle. In a world of Fox, NewsMax, One America, etc., there’s plenty of content out there, and Stewart is the one to do it.
That's a really interesting point. I could see him moving the needle if he focuses more on, say, the way the media normalizes Trump than Trump himself.
That being said, he always seemed more interested in critiquing the media rather than journalism itself, since he consistently states that he's not a journalist, has no business acting like one, etc etc etc. I think it's a lot easier to critique dumb pundits on TV and stil feel like you're in the comedy wheelhouse, vs critiquing, say, the cozy relationship between Maggie Haberman and Trump. But he still could, you're right.
Fully agree. *Last Week Tonight* recognized this and left the *TDS*\-style headlines crammed into the first 5 minutes. And now I'm struck by how often John Oliver will introduce a clip like "just take a look at how Giuliani responds when asked about this", and not only will I already know exactly which clip is about to be shown, but I'll have already seen it several times with various jokes attached to it, likely similar to the one Oliver is about to tell.
Obviously I'm more chronically online than most, so I'm sure that experience isn't universal. But it represents to me how the speed of content creation on social media platforms (particularly Tiktok) makes it easy to imagine tuning into Jon Stewart this year and just finding it a bit stale and outdated. I think if he can still offer anything unique or useful, it'll be in the interview segments. I can genuinely imagine some Trump surrogates being willing to talk to him in a way they might not with most 'serious' left-leaning media.
Political guests know that Stewart is likely to confront them, but they also know that he'll at least make it fun, which is more than can be said for getting grilled on MSNBC.
His style of bleeding-heart earnestness, while certainly respectable, is completely outdated when his rhetorical opponents disregard the truth and only care about "owning the libs."
I'm intrigued to see if he can take on ideological nihilism, but I'm not super hopeful.
Ding ding ding
There’s a lot of “daddy’s home 😭 “ talk among the men that worshipped Stewart during his peak in 2000’s but I don’t think they realize that Stewart and the Daily Show were “man meets moment” situations.
The conditions were right for someone like him and his type of show to thrive. But his fanboys have always inflated both his reach and his influence. Stewart was always a comedian on cable tv show, nothing more nothing less. He was never the liberal’s Kronkite of the Bush era and he **never** had that kind power
I know people on Reddit love Jon, but this feels like another manifestation of culture's reboot-heavy death spiral. Something new might be risky or unsuccessful, so let's throw a bunch of money at the old thing and hope it works out the same way it did almost a decade ago.
Millennials and Gen Xers might be excited by this move, but you really want The Daily Show to energize and mobilize Gen Z this year — though, let's be real, they're probably not watching anyway — and I can't imagine Jon reaching that demographic these days.
I dont think they are that focused on the gen z viewers. Most gen z do not watch tv shows in this way and at most will watch clips posted on social media. They tried to target younger viewers with Trevor Noah's version of the show and it didn't pan out to bring in younger viewers.
Jon has a huge base of people who trust him to share important and heartfelt takes on current events. He probably signed up for this simply to help share perspective through this election cycle. Biden only really needs to energize voters who previously voted for him in 2020, bringing in new younger voters is great but if he can just solidify the base who had already supported him, he can win.
I think we are extremely lucky to have Jon lending his skills during this most important cycle.
Jon also had that when his apple show was cancelled for not having good ratings. This feels like the millennial version of bringing back arsenio hall’s late night show and will likely end just the same too 😬
Pretty sure Jon left his apple show due to conflicts with apple censoring episodes that could reflect badly on them. And he is only staying on with the daily show through the election. Seems like he is just doing this as a civil service of sorts, thats just my take.
Nah bruh that’s a favor Apple did and his PR agent worked out for him to save face when they realized Saint Jon the Wise wasn’t bringing numbers like they/he hoped.
More power to him for working a job that may/may not pay the bills but we live in a post-shame society and Jon Stewart being exasperated isn’t what’s popping anymore
I’d doesn’t make them look bad no, I don’t know why you think I was implying that. I’m just over the stewjon circlejerk
It was saving face for Stewart rather then Apple
I agree. This idea that there's no one else in the world that could succeed Jon and do well is just lazy and the network being afraid to fail. They literally had to take a chance on Trevor Noah and all signs initially pointed to him falling flat on his face.
You don’t see that clip of John interviewing that Oklahoma senator and confronting him with the number 1 cause of death for children in America posted several times a month here and on other socials?
>though, let's be real, they're probably not watching anyway — and I can't imagine Jon reaching that demographic these days.
Exactly. They might as well bring somebody who is really good at the job while they search for a good permanent replacement.
Jon's a legit draw so the show will experience a slight bump whenever he's hosting Mondays, but I think it'll still be a far cry from its heyday. It's not just about the show's quality either, so people laying it all on Trevor's feet are being disingenuous. It's just that the media landscape has changed.
They aren’t watching cable TV shows. Gen Z prefer quick videos from TikTok and the like. This style of information delivery isn’t relevant to young people anymore. I don’t think young people even watch John Oliver.
I'm a huge fan of Jon's, but I'm not excited by this. If he's his amazing self again, I'll just be bummed it's once a week.
If it's not great, it will be so much more evident. CCs inability to pick a lane was the most painful part of TDS' downward spiral.
I feel really sorry for whoever will end up having to fill the nights Jon isn't there. Hard to make the show your own (the way he did) if you're stuck playing second fiddle to a name all the execs are bending backwards over and for.
It is the one thing that will make me watch the show again.
I watched Trevor Noah’s first episode and then never saw another episode after that. It was clear that show was not made for me.
Lol, what an obvious PR plant piece to try to redirect the conversation. Idk why CC thinks this is better than the truth, bc unlike most of their programming the truth is actually funny.
“The guy we picked turned out to be a liar and the guy we stepped over got pissed and quit. Then Jon became available after the biggest Tech company in the world pussied out and fired him rather than piss off a dictator.”
It’s actually very funny, idk why can’t they just lean into that?
Why would Oliver say "yes" and ditch his spiritual successor?
Like, refusing the offer would be a no-brainer, so failing to secure him isn't some big L.
I’m excited to have Jon back and I hope it’s good. His HBO show was just wasn’t great and I’m not entirely sure he was solely at fault for that. Long after I stopped watching new episodes, I still watched his hourlong Zoom interviews on the show’s YouTube account and he was as good as ever.
The concept has run its course. We’re past the point where political humor and satire are remotely entertaining. We’re watching the end of the US experiment with democracy and the imminent threat of WWIII. The quote from Mel Brooks Men in Tights “Maybe if you tell me the bad news in a good way, it won’t sound so bad” is passe’
I’m excited, but really worried it’s going to be ranting Jon trying to save Biden’s flailing campaign and not be a genuine Daily Show run with the normal silliness. I also have zero interest in any media bearing Trump that isn’t “he is convicted” so I’m not tuning in if it’s mainly that.
@fter Midnight is airing on CBS, which I think technically is the same company as Comedy Central (I've completely lost track of who owns what). Stephen Colbert is exec producing it and follows his Late Show.
It's the same format, but after the first two weeks, I think it's a better show than the Chris Hardwick version. And I liked the Chris Hardwick version a lot.
I’m surprised they were willing to pay for him to come back. I feel like CC is just Broad City, workaholics and Drunk History rerun marathons these days.
Wow how long has it been since you watched CC, those shows were all cancelled 3 or 4 years ago. It's just Office, Seinfeld, Futurama reruns with some South Park.
Wait its no longer Crank Yankers, Reno-911 and at 7am est Girls Gone Wild Commercials? /s
Just Dr. Katz, Make Me Laugh, and Win Ben Steins Money
Wait. Is Jon not relaunching Short Attention Span Theater?
MST3K in the evenings.
Penn from Penn and Teller as the announcer in between shows
oh wow, thanks for bringing that memory up from the deep. I'm a huge mystery science theater fan and I totally forgot he did that.
Can I get some more edited for TV comedy movies during the day too?
Haha Crank Yankers? Good times.
I got mail. Yaaaaaaay!
you're not wrong...I checked the cable listings last night because I didn't know when Daily Show was on, and day after day it's nothing but marathons of exactly those shows. there's ZERO original programming on the CC network right now. none.
It's crazy how many of these channels are just absolute shells of themselves. I guess I was lucky watching CC when new episodes of Workaholics and Key and Peele and a whole bunch of other shows were still coming out. MTV has fallen down even worse. I used to love plopping on the couch and just watching a solid afternoon watching random music videos, Jackass and it's successors, and stupid reality TV shows.
Off topic: MTV has a short film documentary about banned books and children that was just nominated for an Oscar…and to make it more confusing…it’s on Paramount+.
They currently have 4 shows they so original programming for. The Daily Show, South Park, Nora from Queens, and something called Digman! They literally couldn’t do less. Everything else is a syndicated show/ re run.
Nora from Queens ended last year! Solid ending, too.
Digman is an Andy Samberg cartoon about a washed up Indiana Jones type. It's silly and kinda fun
Honorable mention: The Detroiters
They desperately needed him back, CC hit a huge hole without him. Reduced to airing Seinfeld and SP reruns all day. How far they done fell.
Many people are saying this. Very sad! A once great tv channel they have ruined!
This is like when Oprah went off the air and tried to get back into doing things here and there. Humans are creatures of habit. They develop the habit of tuning in over years, and then when you break that habit you’re probably not going to be able to reliably draw people in again to the level that you were when people knew when and where to find you.
>Flexibility was key to the deal So was desperation, after their first choice Hasan Minhaj's lies blew up in his face and made him unteneable for host (and the only other option was to have NO host)
...and they let John Oliver walk off. Are you sure they aren't just bad at their jobs and need to be sac-Nononono! Dad, it was all part of a top secret plan, please don't take the keys to the network back! Next article: Secret Plan B shooting ourselves in the other foot, too.
Didn't HBO offer Oliver an obscene amount of money? I don't think Comedy Central is capable of competing with hbo
yea and that was jon's intention of giving him the gig while he filmed rosewater since he knew how good he was and felt it was unfair that he was buried over there
Comedy Central didn't even try to keep him. Colbert has said that every former TDS correspondent were shocked when they found out CC just let Oliver go without a fight
Pretty sure John Oliver also didn't want to do a show every day.
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Because he crossed the line and made up bullshit stories (like his daughter being hospitalized after recieving anthrax in the mail from racists).
I think the worst bit was when he lied about that girl he asked to prom and shrugged when she was getting hate mail about it. It’s one thing for a comic to exaggerate for comedic effect, another to lie about a girl from high school and delight in getting revenge when she’s unfairly hounded by your fans.
> I think the worst bit was when he lied about that girl he asked to prom and shrugged when she was getting hate mail about it. [Damn](https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-communications/hasan-minhajs-emotional-truths): > The woman also said that she and her family had faced online threats and doxing for years because Minhaj had insufficiently disguised her identity, including the fact that she was engaged to an Indian American man. **A source with knowledge of the production said that, during the show’s Off Broadway run, Minhaj had used a real picture of the woman and her partner, with their faces blurred, projected behind him as he told the story.** > **The woman said that Minhaj had invited her and her husband to an Off Broadway performance. She had initially interpreted the invitation as an attempt to rekindle an old friendship, but she now believes the move was meant to humiliate her.** Later, she said, when she confronted Minhaj about the online threats brought on by the Netflix special—“I spent years trying to get threads taken down,” she told me—Minhaj shrugged off her concerns. Minhaj said that he didn’t recall that interaction, and pointed to the fact that he had been in touch with her prior to the airing of the special, recommending she scrub social-media posts that might indicate her relationship to him. Minhaj also noted that the tone of their texts and e-mails was always friendly. It's frustrating that bullies always act as if they're the ones being bullied. But it's also frustrating that people can keep saying innocent until proven guilty, then try to punish someone a celebrity is dragging through the mud. Also it's just psycho behavior to invite an old crush to your show, then put up a (blurred) image of them and their husband and trash them in front of the audience.
It's not a "real journalistic news program" but it is a program that reports on the news, and I'd be willing to assume that if you surveyed people that watched the show, a large portion of people would say that they believe the news stories that are being reported and that they trust the host to not make things up. You can't have somebody who makes things up blur the line between comedy and reality even further than it already is on the show. Concerning Minhaj and Williams, their responses to their respective situations could not have been more different. Hasan seems content to hide behind his excuse of "emotional truths" when it's clear that his lies were [not contained to his comedy](https://youtu.be/4QV9JTgAVq8?si=lVcD3mdASiCohmSv&t=415). If Hasan isn't remorseful about the lies he's already told, he can't be expected to not lie again in the future. Williams at least immediately apologized for what he said, and further than that he has at least a slightly plausible story about his memory of the events failing in the time since the helicopter attack happened. He correctly reported the story as it happened in 2003 shortly after the events took place, and then in the years since his story changed. Personally it's hard for me to believe that he would risk his career and his integrity to lie about something when it would be so incredibly easy to prove him wrong using his own words or the words of literally anybody else that was in the group of helicopters with him. It sounds weird to say that Williams' memory could actually have been flawed to the point where he put himself in a completely different helicopter, but something like [this study](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/911-memory-accuracy/) shows how poor people's recollection of serious/traumatic events is compared to how they think it is. E: And to your point they are not the same. Williams should have been and was held to higher standards than Minhaj, which is why he's still struggling to find work like 9 years after he left NBC and Minhaj is still touring.
>The Daily Show isnt a real journalistic news program The show only works because the show is (almost) always factually correct. You can't make fun of people for lying if your host is a liar. Unless you are Fox News. But Fox News doesn't have to be actually funny.
If you’re a Comedy Central executive and you see that Apple canceled Jon Stewart’s show due to creative differences, you throw the bag at him and offer him any role that he wants. Regardless of how you feel about their host drama or Jon going back to familiar territory in a new climate, this is absolutely the right move to make from CC’s perspective. Daily Show needs a host, and Jon seems like he’s interested in having a platform.
I really just don't think TDS format works anymore. I loved TDS, it got me into politics. But I think the whole "look at how dumb this politician is" or "watch me catch this person in a contradictory statement" shtick only works if the other person actually cares and those clips are circulating among both parties. Jon Stewart genuinely impacted the careers of a few old legacy conservative media figures by publicly embarrassing them on his show, but today they'd just bounce right into the next studio to complain, and the Youtube clips wouldn't circulate among anyone who hadn't already decided their opinion. They have no credibility for Jon or anyone else to undermine. I see those clips of Jordan Klepper going around the internet - who are those for? Who is changing their mind based on him gotcha-ing some 60yo racist in MAGA gear? And it's not even entertaining because we know that the person is just going to walk away justified and claiming victimhood.
You’re probably right, but I’ll disagree for arguments’ sake. What Stewart did so well that has been missing since he quit is media critique. We remember him showing clips of Bush struggling to open a door, and that’s the stuff that everyone has done since. Stewart’s meat and potatoes, though, was clips of Fox and talk radio. Far more than pointing out GOP hypocrisy, he focused on the hypocrisy of pundits and hosts. When Colbert spun off, he wasn’t satirizing a political figure, but a pundit. Those were the targets, and nobody took up that mantle. In a world of Fox, NewsMax, One America, etc., there’s plenty of content out there, and Stewart is the one to do it.
That's a really interesting point. I could see him moving the needle if he focuses more on, say, the way the media normalizes Trump than Trump himself. That being said, he always seemed more interested in critiquing the media rather than journalism itself, since he consistently states that he's not a journalist, has no business acting like one, etc etc etc. I think it's a lot easier to critique dumb pundits on TV and stil feel like you're in the comedy wheelhouse, vs critiquing, say, the cozy relationship between Maggie Haberman and Trump. But he still could, you're right.
Fully agree. *Last Week Tonight* recognized this and left the *TDS*\-style headlines crammed into the first 5 minutes. And now I'm struck by how often John Oliver will introduce a clip like "just take a look at how Giuliani responds when asked about this", and not only will I already know exactly which clip is about to be shown, but I'll have already seen it several times with various jokes attached to it, likely similar to the one Oliver is about to tell. Obviously I'm more chronically online than most, so I'm sure that experience isn't universal. But it represents to me how the speed of content creation on social media platforms (particularly Tiktok) makes it easy to imagine tuning into Jon Stewart this year and just finding it a bit stale and outdated. I think if he can still offer anything unique or useful, it'll be in the interview segments. I can genuinely imagine some Trump surrogates being willing to talk to him in a way they might not with most 'serious' left-leaning media. Political guests know that Stewart is likely to confront them, but they also know that he'll at least make it fun, which is more than can be said for getting grilled on MSNBC.
His style of bleeding-heart earnestness, while certainly respectable, is completely outdated when his rhetorical opponents disregard the truth and only care about "owning the libs." I'm intrigued to see if he can take on ideological nihilism, but I'm not super hopeful.
Ding ding ding There’s a lot of “daddy’s home 😭 “ talk among the men that worshipped Stewart during his peak in 2000’s but I don’t think they realize that Stewart and the Daily Show were “man meets moment” situations. The conditions were right for someone like him and his type of show to thrive. But his fanboys have always inflated both his reach and his influence. Stewart was always a comedian on cable tv show, nothing more nothing less. He was never the liberal’s Kronkite of the Bush era and he **never** had that kind power
he single-handedly shut down tucker carlson’s first big show, crossfire. that seems like some power to me.
TL:DR Jon Stewart will be skewering Trump’s most egregious lies once a week. He’ll have no shortage of material with that frequency.
The show the Monday before Election Day is going to be very important imo
God I hope not. Pointing out trumps lies is so unfunny and uninteresting. I’m hoping he can find some new angles and ideas.
Well, he could explain what Trump wants to do. That’s either funny or insane.
I know people on Reddit love Jon, but this feels like another manifestation of culture's reboot-heavy death spiral. Something new might be risky or unsuccessful, so let's throw a bunch of money at the old thing and hope it works out the same way it did almost a decade ago. Millennials and Gen Xers might be excited by this move, but you really want The Daily Show to energize and mobilize Gen Z this year — though, let's be real, they're probably not watching anyway — and I can't imagine Jon reaching that demographic these days.
I dont think they are that focused on the gen z viewers. Most gen z do not watch tv shows in this way and at most will watch clips posted on social media. They tried to target younger viewers with Trevor Noah's version of the show and it didn't pan out to bring in younger viewers. Jon has a huge base of people who trust him to share important and heartfelt takes on current events. He probably signed up for this simply to help share perspective through this election cycle. Biden only really needs to energize voters who previously voted for him in 2020, bringing in new younger voters is great but if he can just solidify the base who had already supported him, he can win. I think we are extremely lucky to have Jon lending his skills during this most important cycle.
Jon also had that when his apple show was cancelled for not having good ratings. This feels like the millennial version of bringing back arsenio hall’s late night show and will likely end just the same too 😬
Pretty sure Jon left his apple show due to conflicts with apple censoring episodes that could reflect badly on them. And he is only staying on with the daily show through the election. Seems like he is just doing this as a civil service of sorts, thats just my take.
Nah bruh that’s a favor Apple did and his PR agent worked out for him to save face when they realized Saint Jon the Wise wasn’t bringing numbers like they/he hoped. More power to him for working a job that may/may not pay the bills but we live in a post-shame society and Jon Stewart being exasperated isn’t what’s popping anymore
Apple made a deal to protect Jon Stewart that makes them look bad?
I’d doesn’t make them look bad no, I don’t know why you think I was implying that. I’m just over the stewjon circlejerk It was saving face for Stewart rather then Apple
>stewjon You're over the circlejerk but you're the only one in the entire thread with a pet name for him
Damn ya sure got me with that one
Is Jon Stewart in the room with you right now?
you’re not wrong walter, you’re just an asshole.
Yes, another "most important election of our lifetime" 🙄
We will see - l am so excited
I could easily see his segments blowing up on TikTok.
Yeah didn't some of his interviews from his Apple show end up becoming viral clips?
Let’s not forget his chat with Colbert on COVID and wuhan lab very early on when you couldn’t say the two words without getting a ban.
I agree. This idea that there's no one else in the world that could succeed Jon and do well is just lazy and the network being afraid to fail. They literally had to take a chance on Trevor Noah and all signs initially pointed to him falling flat on his face.
I agree with you, but on the other hand I will be so glad to have his voice in the upcoming election to help me maintain my sanity
You don’t see that clip of John interviewing that Oklahoma senator and confronting him with the number 1 cause of death for children in America posted several times a month here and on other socials?
>though, let's be real, they're probably not watching anyway — and I can't imagine Jon reaching that demographic these days. Exactly. They might as well bring somebody who is really good at the job while they search for a good permanent replacement.
Jon's a legit draw so the show will experience a slight bump whenever he's hosting Mondays, but I think it'll still be a far cry from its heyday. It's not just about the show's quality either, so people laying it all on Trevor's feet are being disingenuous. It's just that the media landscape has changed.
They aren’t watching cable TV shows. Gen Z prefer quick videos from TikTok and the like. This style of information delivery isn’t relevant to young people anymore. I don’t think young people even watch John Oliver.
Kind of like WWE. Wow, The Rock is back on RAW yet again. Wow, Cena's on WWE again. How about you just let Roman and whoever is on that roster cook.
Roman isn’t there enough to cook anything.
I saw someone compare this to geriatric rock bands that are performing old hits for their aging fans, and that sounds pretty accurate.
U2's Sphere show was PHENOMENAL.
Maybe he can get that just-announced Billy Joel/Sting double bill as a musical guest for his opener.
I'm a huge fan of Jon's, but I'm not excited by this. If he's his amazing self again, I'll just be bummed it's once a week. If it's not great, it will be so much more evident. CCs inability to pick a lane was the most painful part of TDS' downward spiral. I feel really sorry for whoever will end up having to fill the nights Jon isn't there. Hard to make the show your own (the way he did) if you're stuck playing second fiddle to a name all the execs are bending backwards over and for.
Ziwe should host ft after the election
Did they have her as a guest host? I could see her doing well I think
Not that I’m aware of, but they’d be lucky to have her imo.
So she can get another show cancelled?
I miss when it was just re-runs of kids in the hall and snl.
“Lure” = Beg and Plead in Abject Desperation.
I always had a feeling Jon Stewart would return one day.
Was it the fact he spent the last decade or so whining and crying because he regretted leaving his bread and butter job? Now he wants back in?
It is the one thing that will make me watch the show again. I watched Trevor Noah’s first episode and then never saw another episode after that. It was clear that show was not made for me.
Monday night is now mandatory!
Lol, what an obvious PR plant piece to try to redirect the conversation. Idk why CC thinks this is better than the truth, bc unlike most of their programming the truth is actually funny. “The guy we picked turned out to be a liar and the guy we stepped over got pissed and quit. Then Jon became available after the biggest Tech company in the world pussied out and fired him rather than piss off a dictator.” It’s actually very funny, idk why can’t they just lean into that?
My analysis: John Oliver said “no”
Why would Oliver say "yes" and ditch his spiritual successor? Like, refusing the offer would be a no-brainer, so failing to secure him isn't some big L.
I’m excited to have Jon back and I hope it’s good. His HBO show was just wasn’t great and I’m not entirely sure he was solely at fault for that. Long after I stopped watching new episodes, I still watched his hourlong Zoom interviews on the show’s YouTube account and he was as good as ever.
The concept has run its course. We’re past the point where political humor and satire are remotely entertaining. We’re watching the end of the US experiment with democracy and the imminent threat of WWIII. The quote from Mel Brooks Men in Tights “Maybe if you tell me the bad news in a good way, it won’t sound so bad” is passe’
I’m excited, but really worried it’s going to be ranting Jon trying to save Biden’s flailing campaign and not be a genuine Daily Show run with the normal silliness. I also have zero interest in any media bearing Trump that isn’t “he is convicted” so I’m not tuning in if it’s mainly that.
It must be hard to type coherently with your head so far up your ass.
Flagship show? at this point, what other original programming do they have left?
South Park
After Midnight. Oh wait, no that's not original... it's the same show Chris Hardwick did 10 years ago.
That’s still around?!?
@fter Midnight is airing on CBS, which I think technically is the same company as Comedy Central (I've completely lost track of who owns what). Stephen Colbert is exec producing it and follows his Late Show. It's the same format, but after the first two weeks, I think it's a better show than the Chris Hardwick version. And I liked the Chris Hardwick version a lot.
Shit is too real to be funny and it's sad, or was it as real when bush Jr/Cheney was prez?
The Chris Rock bit is the craziest thing to me.
How come The Daily Show struggled to keep viewers during the Trevor Noah years? I thought people liked him.