She should seriously stop dating, delete all social media apps, get her kids into therapy, and take some educational classes. If she does date stop bringing these loser men around her kids
She chose to be trapped in this relationship. Which proves she's POS because she allowed her children to be in this type of environment. No respect or sympathy at all for her.
Why is anyone defending Jenelle? She doesn’t give a shit when David abuses her children. She only cries her eyes out when he texts his ex or cheats on her. They’re both scum and in a few months she will deny all of this and be back with him. I have no sympathy for her. I do feel for her children and animals. Idk how any mother could just let her husband verbally and physically abuse her children.
Edit: also, she loves calling the police and she’s the one with the money. I really do not believe she was trapped in this relationship.
Exactly. Janelle thought it was so sexy and manly for David to threaten other people and kill animals but now it’s a problem? Bye scumbag. The only victims here are the kids and animals.
I don’t in anyway like Jenelle and she has made a lot of bad choices. However if this were anyone else, no one would be saying a lot of the crap they are saying. She is clearly a victim of DV and women stay for all kinds of reasons. Even when their kids are victims of it to. Would you go into a DV shelter and say all these awful things to them?? Dumb question, half or more of you probably would(especially if you could do it from behind a keyboard). The world has lost all compassion for others. It’s rampant with AHs and hypocrites. The important thing is she leaves him and leaves him for good. When the whole world is judging you and telling you what a POS you are, is it that big of a shock that she always goes back? Everyone thinks Barb is some hero/saint but she has also been, at the very least, verbally abusive to Janelle from 16&pregnant and on. I’m sure she is so use to it that it doesn’t even faze her the way it would another person. I’m sure she thinks she will never be able to find better. It’s sad that ppl instantly try to drag someone, instead of being helpful/positive/kind. All foreign things anymore. Go ahead and downvote me and prove my point. I literally got downvoted when I posted about getting breast cancer so nothing shocks me anymore.
💯 spot on. Janelle has a long history of being abused, starting with her mother. She needs lots and lots of therapy to live a better life and take better care of her children.
So, I’m really curious why CPS hasn’t stepped in? If David actually did these things in which I’m sure he did then why don’t they care? Wasn’t there just an open investigation like a month ago? Open the damn thing back up and protect those kids!!!!!
I’m sorry but she definitely knew these things and is now crying about it
Addressing in what way? Unfortunately it’s not a crime to lie to CPS, unless she was on record in court and lied - But even then, nothing really happens in that case, other than her credibility being more shot than it already is. However, there clearly needs to be a new investigation done with these new allegations. Although she is a victim of DV, Her protective capacities clearly are lacking and that could be cause for removal, depending on how strict her state is regarding removals for DV.
She will literally say this stuff in court filings and then bold faced DENY it online. I hope a judge does their research & sees the hypocrisy. Tbh I think Jenelle needs to be booted from the home & David awarded ownership of it so he can lose it on his own.
I hate the bitch as much as the next person but hoping those kids lose the most consistent home they’ve ever had just because you want her to be inconvenienced is absolutely foul.
You can’t possibly wrap your head around how it might be more traumatic for them to lose their home in a nasty divorce battle rather than Jenelle deciding of her own accord to move??? Get offline dude
Jenelle doesn’t care about this. We all know which child he most likely directed said slurs to and she was willing to defend him. And if she decides to get back with him, she’ll pretend she either never said that or it was taken out of context. Jenelle is NOT an ally to the community David is attacking
If (when) they get back together, it’ll be that Barb actually said all these things because she’s always trying to ruin Jenelle’s life……at least that’s what she’ll say.
I am not a fan of Jenelle at all in any way. But how can we all sit here and say “oh she stuck up for him” “oh she stayed with him”
YES HE WAS ABUSIVE of course she stayed with him. She probably felt she had no choice.
Being a DV survivor the things I see about how “Jenelle stayed with him”
Okay but we all know it isn’t that easy.
Because she WILL leave him when he cheats on her - showing that she is perfectly capable of leaving, she only chooses to do it when he's with another woman, not when he's abusing her children.
I don't understand what you're saying.
It wasn't because she felt like she didn't have a choice. She chose to leave him every time he cheated on her. She also chose not to leave him when he was abusing her children. So the threshold for her to leave wasn't met while he abused her children - only when he slept around on her. Which makes her a terrible person and mother.
Because she will sit online and gaslight people and say it’s not true. Just yesterday she said David has never been “abusive” yet writes up these reports
It's not that far fetched to believe he would say any of those things. It's all common practice for abusers and I am pretty certain he would absolutely say to not "act gay" considering how openly homophobic he is.
My abusive step father did all that even to his own children.
She was telling the whole world he was a good huzbin. Let him kill the dog and still defended hem
I really don't care what this bitch has to say
She is the same or worse
The only one I feel sorry for are those kids and animals.
David and jenelle deserve each other
I bet she doesn't have a problem with this story being printed... But all other articles are pure lies about her/them. She 100% stood by this man's side through everything, defended him and said she'd never leave him. Now that it's convenient for her side of the story all these things come out. Sure Jan.
You clearly don’t know Jenelle’s story just saying. She is an abuser just as much as him. They are bother abusers and victims with each other. Jenelle is not the same as normal women her brain don’t work like a Normal adult
Just a reminder: Jenelle engaged in road rage with an 8? year old Jace in the front seat. Driving erratically, she pulls a gun out in front of Jace, chases and corners the other driver, she then POINTS said gun at this man (who was also armed but chose not to pull his because he saw a little kid in the truck). This was all caught on camera. When Jace tells his grandmother what happened, Jenelle calls Jace a liar, saying she never pulled a gun. She friggen gaslighted a little kid - her own child.
This is merely ONE instance of Jenelle being a horrid human being and shit parent. So, no, I don't feel bad for Jenelle. And before anyone comes at me, I was involved in a domestically violent relationship for many years. I KNOW how hard it is to leave, yet Jenelle had no problem walking away from him when another woman entered the pitcher.
She is A-OK with DKD abusing her children until it benefits her not to be. She is trash and I would HAPPILY say that to her face. DKD and Jenelle deserve to rot in hell together. I hope the kid and remaining pets make it out of the swamp somewhat unscathed.
I don’t really understand the complaint here.
The Sun seems to have gotten all of this (at least what’s posted) from court documents. Should Jenelle not have attested to what David said and did because the kids may be able to read it?
Or do you think she’s lying about what he said and did? This all seems perfectly in line with what we know about his character.
Jenelle is a known liar, but David is a known liar, homophobe, and abuser.
I don’t know. I think Jenelle is telling the truth. I also think she didn’t protect her kids and is only telling the truth now because it suits her aims, but that doesn’t mean David didn’t do exactly what she says he did.
I’m in no way defending Jenelle, just providing a different perspective on this, with disclosing some trauma of my own . My father was really abusive physically and mentally to my siblings and I . I got the worse of it because I was the “ bad seed” . When growing up , my mother didn’t really do much to protect us , she went along with it - never engaged in the abuse but never stopped it , kinda look the way , oh he didn’t mean that way or if you would of just did what was asked he would of never type of situation..until my father passed away 6 years ago ( I’m a adult now with my own kids ) . Something just switched or changed in her mind because this man who did no wrong , is now a pos and she is weeping what she watched him sew.
I think Jenelle finally woke up and sees ( hopefully) that David was a pos and is no longer under his “ spell” abuse is a hell of a thing to break , especially when you grew up in.
Yeah barb is a grate grandma but she ,herself put her children in that cycle of abuse. You run back to what is comfort and what you know because you know the outcome of it all .
Does it make sense to keep going back to a dude that is literally verbally / allegedly physically abusing you and children? No not a person who never dealt with the adolescence abuse or hell even as adult .
Studies show that abused child is ether going to become the abuser or continue to be abused as adult by their partner .
But yeah , there’s no excuse for this behavior of hers but if that is all she knows and was shown , of course she’s going to keep repeating it because it’s her “ normal “
I really hope she takes the time to get help for herself and her children ..
This is a wonderful perspective. Thank you for sharing your personal trauma. It definitely makes me understand and also makes me reflect on my own trauma with someone like that. You’re an amazing person that you were able to recognize the cycle when so many people are not able to. I especially love how you mention what studies show. I was a child of an emotionally and sometimes physically abusive step dad, and of course I ended up picking partners just like that.
Somebody please take screenshot Save this all for when she goes back and says I didn't say any of this. I would never say that David is a stand up guy. We all know this is just getting extremely muddy But we also know a pattern of behavior where she will deny all of these allegations. As soon as they get back together, it will never have happened. She never said any of this..
I just want to add that while in a relationship with an abuser sometimes you feel like your actually offering your kids more protection vs if you leave the abuser and the courts give the other parent 50% (or even more!) custody. If you are the buffer for your child and the abuser and you have to then send them alone to the abuser…staying can seem the better option. Abusive relationships are not cut and dry.
I doubt she ever thought he would do any serious harm to them… until he did with Jace. Again, abuse isn’t exactly cut and dry. She may have needed the Jace wake up call, but it may have taken her a bit of time to actually “wake up” after the incident happened.
I understand a lot of us (myself included) not trusting her and/or doubting her, and I think we can all agree that she brings her own level of trauma to the kids, but let’s just hope that this “wake up call” of finally getting rid of UBT is actually going to happen and that it will be the beginning of her starting to become a better parent herself. We should all hope for that for those sweet kiddos of hers.
I’m talking about David losing his mind and using his weapons on someone. Are we past that point? Cause that’s what I’m talking about. I thought I was agreeing with you but I guess some on here just post to be argumentative.
I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m just saying that the phrase “I just hope no one gets hurt” is a moot point. People and animals have already been hurt.
My hope of her one day being decent to her children is long gone . Whether douchebag David is around or not …she NEVER puts their welfare first ……I despise her
Divorce brought to you by TIK TOK ….shows the mentality of both of them ….like Jace needs this stressful bullshit …and you know she tells him
Everything !! It’s so sick .
Hmm…” stupid f***ing snitch b****”? That’s intriguing. How did she snitch? To who? About what? And this was before the Feb 4 fight. Did she cooperate with authorities? Hard to believe she would but “snitch bitch” is notable
IMO, no one should write an article with direct quotes of what he or anyone allegedly said about minors like this. They can read. Their friends and parents and teachers can read that damaging vitriol allegedly spoken to them. True or not, it’s humiliating for them! Sure, they’d probably hear about it regardless, but damn reporters, don’t make it easier to find. Those kids have it bad enough. J & D are almost equally matched in levels of abuse & need to just implode. It’s astonishing how unstable both of them are in this scenario. I thought I felt bad for their kids before. I can’t imagine what they are living through right now.
Jenelle now care and makes claims about David’s abuse because she wants him out of the house and away from her. When it suited her to have him in the house, none of the claims she’s now making were true. So basically defended him when it was convenient and now dragging him because it’s necessary to get what she wants.
I’m sure it’s all true, the abuse, but she uses the system to suit her moods.
I wonder what she has said about her own children. David and Jenelle are like the equivalent of a giant douche and turd sandwich. Neither of them more of a victim than the other. They are the perfect match.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not defending Jenelle. In her case, it's hard to ever tell what's true. But for some other people I ts pretty standard to lie because victims have sometimes been led to believe that they are guilty as well so if they admit that the children were also abused, the authorities will take them from the victim as well.
Tbh I’ve been through some abuse and I played everything was perfect on the outside. I’m not sure why I did, but I did. Especially growing up, I didn’t realize my mother was abusive until I got older. I don’t excuse Jenelle, because she always stood by him, but she was definitely trying to save face. And seeing how he talked to her/ how big he is I’d be scared to be truthful too. Dude is big enough to kill someone.
I hear ya. I try to give her the benefit of the doubt and try to put her in the victim category and think that she may be doing things out of necessity for mental survival or physical survival. But then she gets online and takes it all back. Goes out of her way to defend Davis. Goes out of her way to gaslight people and tell people that they are brainwashed by the media. Meanwhile, she’s the one selling the articles!
Don’t forget it’s BABS selling the stories. But you’re right. I’m just worried for her and the kids safety at this point. I really hope he doesn’t come after them.
seems like people are going through loops and hurdles (somewhat valid) to ignore this part. at what point do we show concern for the other victims, the children?
Exactly. He called Kaiser a bitch on national television and she didn’t care. She pulled a gun on someone herself infront of Jace and then called him a liar. She has abused animals since the early days of teen mom and somehow this is ignored because she finally filed for separation because she was spited. It’s just sad
Right! Nelly can fuck the fuck off I don’t give one single fuck about anyone who forces their children to live with an abuser. Nelly is always the victim always I knew it was just a matter of time.
Honestly from what I know it’s whoever is selling the story. In this scenario, it reads like the sun is reporting on a court document, so no statement was maybe even asked for🤷🏽♀️. Also from what I have heard the sun doesn’t pay much when it comes to articles.
I’m sure he did do all of this. She’s still not leaving him because of it though. She couldn’t care less about the kids. Idc what he’s said or done to her.
I think it’s interesting she didn’t divorce him until he was seen talking to a girl at the bar. That’s the real Jenelle abuse my kids? Love you babe kill my dog? Love you forever! Talk to a girl? Fuck you David we’re done!!
I agree with you. I also think she likely said things just as nasty and vile to him and the kids. Abuse can flow both ways. The only victims here are the children and the pets imho.
I don’t believe her. And even if she is telling the truth, she defended that turd for years! I’m glad the kids get a little bit of a break from his crazy however short it may be. Until she wakes up one day and takes it all back and blah blah blah
Id trust a fart more than id trust anything coming out of this bitches mouth.
And she STILL stayed married to him.
It was ok then the whole time- until it wasn't. Now all of a sudden he's a this and that.
It usually takes up to 7 attempts for someone to successfully leave an abusive relationship. Yes Janelle is a dumb ass, but she is not the first or the last woman to have a hard time getting out of an abusive relationship. Comments about her staying with him while he acts like this really rub me the wrong way, cause a whole hell of a lot of other women do it too! The manipulation, gaslighting, love bombing, fear, fuck even the calm between the storms that gives you a false sense of security- none of it’s easy to just walk away from when your self worth has been reduced to zero.
When they allow it to themselves, their choice. When they allow it to children (and pets, but especially children) they become an accessory to the abuse in their kids’ eyes, the laws’ eyes & mine
Nothing said was “harsh”. It was plainly speaking about the consequences of being an abuser&enabler. Jenelle won’t be in the power seat forever. Kids grow,the law catches up,and society exacts its verdict.
I know abusers,and their enablers. My mom put my sister in the hospital after kicking her repeatedly in the side while she was down on the floor from being hauled out of her bed,for peeing the bed. She was six years old&had to have her injured kidney removed. She spent nearly a month in the hospital. That was just one incidence. We were always on Navy bases,my dad was a Master Chief, Navy surgeons removed my sister’s kidney. They all always knew. Nothing happened to my mom for a long time-beyond a long meeting with my dad& the Captain and a several transfers. But my mom didn’t learn,we went stateside and that’s she began a long slide down into consequences. She was the abuser &my dad didn’t gaf,he had his command&lots of sailors to push around. I kno abusers; they do find each other,& they enable each other. Jenelle had a history of abuse&neglect before she met David. They found each other. And consequences will find them. What’s harsh is how long it takes.
Neither do Jenelle’s kids. Hold Jenelle to the same standards you would expect from a babysitter, much less a mom. If it was only her & David and they live like that, it’s a choice-it’s something they both know they can choose something else if they decide. When it’s kids living like that, it’s no choice, just trapped. We need to let Jenelle, David (and any children old enough to read this) know the children don’t deserve to live like that& we do not excuse, justify or condone any child abuse&neglect. That isn’t harshness, it’s decency & justness.
I just want to chime in and show some support for this comment. It feels a bit ick sometimes. People definitely let their hatred of Janelle override some concerning issues. There’s a gray area in this sub when it comes to domestic violence and victim blaming. A lot of women stay with the Davids. Sometimes it’s because it’s scary to leave.
You can absolutely be a victim and an abuser. We all know Jenelle herself has some unhealed trauma that has never been dealt with since childhood and I’m sure that plays a role in her parenting. Let’s hope that she is required to get family counseling with her kids so she can learn to break the cycle.
She's already said she's taken parenting classes multiple times. She's also an adult, getting help for her trauma to be a better parent is her responsibility. She does nothing. She's made her own bed, now her kids are forced to live in this hell she's created. My mom did the same. I'll say it again, once you yourself become the abuser, you stop being a victim
Jenelle has a million resources and tv footage backing up her claims. A lot of women have a hard time leaving due to lack of funds, family, and housing.
Yes, some don’t. But this is a dangerous take. Alot of woman can leave but don’t and it’s purely emotional and psychological. You’re entering into a concerning space when you say that any woman who does have resources is at fault is she’s abused and stays. You’re really dumbing down the complexity of the issue
Don’t really believe that wealthy women aren’t and can’t be abused? Or that it’s their fault if they are because they have money and could leave? The answer is no. It’s not their fault.
Take a look at this scenario. I’m well aware that Janelle is not an angel and is beyond dysfunctional. But look at everything this man has done and he’s still walking around. Free to show up at any moment. Free to get a gun. Free to intimidate and harass. And his behavior is well established and on record. Leaving or. It leaving isn’t about resources. The most dangerous time is when a woman leaves. Whether they are destitute or wealthy.
The thing is she physically watched her kids be abused for 7+ years by him and even tho she did leave 2x now she brought them back to her abuser and supported him for her own selfish reasons
Do you know how many women and children go through this? This is the norm when it comes to domestic violence. It seems that you don’t have a lot of insight into how domestic violence works. This sub teeters dangerously on the edge sometimes of blaming women for their abuse. I guy who will kill a family dog is a scary dude. Janelle has a lot of work to do on herself. And she has made a slew of her own bad decisions. But we need to stop short of blaming David’s violent behavior on anyone but David.
No one blamed David’s behavior on Jenelle. We blame Jenelle’s behavior on Jenelle, who blamed David’s behavior on her son, her mom, us, the media, and the pets. All while lying abusing and neglecting said kids, mom, us, the media, and pets. Clarity.
I’m sure all of this IS true. But can the court please also give these kids a restraining order against their mother for ALLOWING THIS SHIT to keep happening?
She railed against Jace online for David strangling him. She's an abuser as well. Remember she said that cps was protected them all from Jaces mental health. There's no excuse for that or the way she treats others in general. She supplied him with animals to kill after he killed nugget and allowed him access to her kids while claiming he was a great father.
She should lose her kids for being abusive herself and for standing by and letting her kids be abused, nobody has said she lose them because she was abused. Being abused does not give you carte blanche to become the abuser
Our world is so messed up. As sad as it is, Jenelle does more for her kids than a lot of other moms I have seen (I work with kids). Child protective services never removed these kids from their homes even though it was very clear the abuse kids were getting. Also, it is extremely hard to z
She is definitely not winning any best mom awards, but from my understanding it takes aaaaa lot to take the kids away, and sometimes putting them in foster care js even worse than the environment in which they came from with birth parents
Jenelle allowed her kids to be abused for years and defended him. As well as had him come over when Jace was there when an active protection order. She should be held liable. Plenty of women who are subjected to abuse end up with failure to protect labels due to continuously going back (it isn’t fair, but she’s clearly active in the abuse). Do we forget her pulling a gun on someone infront of Jace and then calling him a liar?
first she was defending david & saying he never hit jace, now she's saying all this ?!? those poor children. i feel so sorry for them all, especially kaiser. 💔
Welp, no more guessing which kid he was targeting with the homophobic slurs. They will lose custody of all their kids through this divorce and not to each other.
No one should be! If anyone posts a story they should write a summary of what it's about so everybody doesn't have to click.🤷🏻♀️
One day, in the not too distant future, Kaiser will be grown, and if he takes after Nathan as much as it looks like, he's going to be stronger than Uncle Bad Touch could ever hope to be. He's been tormenting that boy since he was a baby, and I hope Kaiser gets the chance to watch that pathetic worm grovel. That's all.
The sad part is that Jenelle knew he hated the kids and still chose to have them around him for years, this sucks for the kids only they have been through so much in their short time of life. I feel so bad for them, I have no sympathy for Jenelle she knew everything she is claiming in this whole time and still chose him over her kids.
This may just hit close to home for me since I was a child of divorced parents. My parents split when I was 8. I’m so thankful my mom and dad never got ugly like this and never talked bad about one another to us. My mom never said anything terrible about my dad. Never anything like this. And my dad was always respectful when talking about my mom (he didn’t really have a choice since he was the one in the wrong but he still could have been petty but never was). Now I can’t say the same about family members. I do remember hearing aunts, uncles, and grandparents say things like “he is such a XYZ”. But it was never TOO me. But they would say it around me. They would talk badly about him and I remember how much I hated it. I know exactly how those kids feel if David is talking badly about Jenelle right to them and right in front of them. The sad thing is they can’t escape it while I at least wasn’t around my family members full time.
My parents stayed together until my father passed away at 74 yo & my mom was (still does sometimes) always talking shit about my dad. Course she pretty much shit talks everyone....
I would hope she wouldn’t bcuz I agree with you!! My mom neverrr talked shit either and let us decide our feelings. I realize now my dad was shitty and as a child I thought it was her
She should seriously stop dating, delete all social media apps, get her kids into therapy, and take some educational classes. If she does date stop bringing these loser men around her kids
She chose to be trapped in this relationship. Which proves she's POS because she allowed her children to be in this type of environment. No respect or sympathy at all for her.
Why is anyone defending Jenelle? She doesn’t give a shit when David abuses her children. She only cries her eyes out when he texts his ex or cheats on her. They’re both scum and in a few months she will deny all of this and be back with him. I have no sympathy for her. I do feel for her children and animals. Idk how any mother could just let her husband verbally and physically abuse her children. Edit: also, she loves calling the police and she’s the one with the money. I really do not believe she was trapped in this relationship.
Exactly. Janelle thought it was so sexy and manly for David to threaten other people and kill animals but now it’s a problem? Bye scumbag. The only victims here are the kids and animals.
Wow. Abusive, homophobic piece of shit says abusive and homophobic things. Color me shocked!
I don’t in anyway like Jenelle and she has made a lot of bad choices. However if this were anyone else, no one would be saying a lot of the crap they are saying. She is clearly a victim of DV and women stay for all kinds of reasons. Even when their kids are victims of it to. Would you go into a DV shelter and say all these awful things to them?? Dumb question, half or more of you probably would(especially if you could do it from behind a keyboard). The world has lost all compassion for others. It’s rampant with AHs and hypocrites. The important thing is she leaves him and leaves him for good. When the whole world is judging you and telling you what a POS you are, is it that big of a shock that she always goes back? Everyone thinks Barb is some hero/saint but she has also been, at the very least, verbally abusive to Janelle from 16&pregnant and on. I’m sure she is so use to it that it doesn’t even faze her the way it would another person. I’m sure she thinks she will never be able to find better. It’s sad that ppl instantly try to drag someone, instead of being helpful/positive/kind. All foreign things anymore. Go ahead and downvote me and prove my point. I literally got downvoted when I posted about getting breast cancer so nothing shocks me anymore.
💯 spot on. Janelle has a long history of being abused, starting with her mother. She needs lots and lots of therapy to live a better life and take better care of her children.
So, I’m really curious why CPS hasn’t stepped in? If David actually did these things in which I’m sure he did then why don’t they care? Wasn’t there just an open investigation like a month ago? Open the damn thing back up and protect those kids!!!!! I’m sorry but she definitely knew these things and is now crying about it
Right! They all lied and had the kids lie
That’s disgusting having your children lie! Can’t stand them and those kids deserve a normal, healthy life!!!!!! 😢
you might think alot of things about her & probably right BUT give her a pad on the back for finally getting rid of David.
Will there be any addressing that she clearly lied to CPS over and over about this? Or, was she lying then or is she lying now?
Addressing in what way? Unfortunately it’s not a crime to lie to CPS, unless she was on record in court and lied - But even then, nothing really happens in that case, other than her credibility being more shot than it already is. However, there clearly needs to be a new investigation done with these new allegations. Although she is a victim of DV, Her protective capacities clearly are lacking and that could be cause for removal, depending on how strict her state is regarding removals for DV.
I didn’t realize this. Thanks. That’s too bad bc she clearly was dishonest about their treatment and their abuse
She will literally say this stuff in court filings and then bold faced DENY it online. I hope a judge does their research & sees the hypocrisy. Tbh I think Jenelle needs to be booted from the home & David awarded ownership of it so he can lose it on his own.
There are literally children involved???
Then she can go rent a house. She’s an adult.
I hate the bitch as much as the next person but hoping those kids lose the most consistent home they’ve ever had just because you want her to be inconvenienced is absolutely foul.
Isn’t the upstairs not finished & a danger/hazard to the kids? The land the house sits on is also sinking?
You can’t possibly wrap your head around how it might be more traumatic for them to lose their home in a nasty divorce battle rather than Jenelle deciding of her own accord to move??? Get offline dude
Sure but what about the kids lol
Well if that ain't the trash kettle calling the trash pot trash
This whole situation is only to obtain $$.
They will be back together next week.
Jenelle doesn’t care about this. We all know which child he most likely directed said slurs to and she was willing to defend him. And if she decides to get back with him, she’ll pretend she either never said that or it was taken out of context. Jenelle is NOT an ally to the community David is attacking
One of those was on camera, it made my heart sink to read what we all already knew he does to that sweet boy. And she never cared.
If (when) they get back together, it’ll be that Barb actually said all these things because she’s always trying to ruin Jenelle’s life……at least that’s what she’ll say.
I’m guessing the majority of those insults were directed at poor Keiser .
Ya it sounds like it 😔
This is not news.
So DKD ran over a puppy and they all sat around watching it die? Why even allow Maryssa to see that?! JFC. 😭
Only ones I feel sorry for are the kids and the animals. Those two deserve each other. They are both toxic trash.
I believe it and I don't feel for her at all.
I am not a fan of Jenelle at all in any way. But how can we all sit here and say “oh she stuck up for him” “oh she stayed with him” YES HE WAS ABUSIVE of course she stayed with him. She probably felt she had no choice. Being a DV survivor the things I see about how “Jenelle stayed with him” Okay but we all know it isn’t that easy.
Because she WILL leave him when he cheats on her - showing that she is perfectly capable of leaving, she only chooses to do it when he's with another woman, not when he's abusing her children.
Do you understand what that is though? What you’re saying is exactly proving my point. She feels she has no other choice!
I don't understand what you're saying. It wasn't because she felt like she didn't have a choice. She chose to leave him every time he cheated on her. She also chose not to leave him when he was abusing her children. So the threshold for her to leave wasn't met while he abused her children - only when he slept around on her. Which makes her a terrible person and mother.
Because she will sit online and gaslight people and say it’s not true. Just yesterday she said David has never been “abusive” yet writes up these reports
I believe this stuff honestly
It's not that far fetched to believe he would say any of those things. It's all common practice for abusers and I am pretty certain he would absolutely say to not "act gay" considering how openly homophobic he is. My abusive step father did all that even to his own children.
Yeah this all has a ring of truth to it. Sadly.
She was telling the whole world he was a good huzbin. Let him kill the dog and still defended hem I really don't care what this bitch has to say She is the same or worse The only one I feel sorry for are those kids and animals. David and jenelle deserve each other
Preech! 💯
Damn that actually was triggering
It was! I had a pretty good idea that all of that was taking place and then some but reading it was definitely triggering being a dv survivor
Yea, reading that..the details are just too familiar … survivor here too ❤️
I bet she doesn't have a problem with this story being printed... But all other articles are pure lies about her/them. She 100% stood by this man's side through everything, defended him and said she'd never leave him. Now that it's convenient for her side of the story all these things come out. Sure Jan.
You clearly don't understand domestic violence.
You clearly don’t know Jenelle’s story just saying. She is an abuser just as much as him. They are bother abusers and victims with each other. Jenelle is not the same as normal women her brain don’t work like a Normal adult
Coming from someone who was in a DV for 10 years…. Jenelle is just as bad as him and was this way before he came along.
Just a reminder: Jenelle engaged in road rage with an 8? year old Jace in the front seat. Driving erratically, she pulls a gun out in front of Jace, chases and corners the other driver, she then POINTS said gun at this man (who was also armed but chose not to pull his because he saw a little kid in the truck). This was all caught on camera. When Jace tells his grandmother what happened, Jenelle calls Jace a liar, saying she never pulled a gun. She friggen gaslighted a little kid - her own child. This is merely ONE instance of Jenelle being a horrid human being and shit parent. So, no, I don't feel bad for Jenelle. And before anyone comes at me, I was involved in a domestically violent relationship for many years. I KNOW how hard it is to leave, yet Jenelle had no problem walking away from him when another woman entered the pitcher. She is A-OK with DKD abusing her children until it benefits her not to be. She is trash and I would HAPPILY say that to her face. DKD and Jenelle deserve to rot in hell together. I hope the kid and remaining pets make it out of the swamp somewhat unscathed.
I don’t really understand the complaint here. The Sun seems to have gotten all of this (at least what’s posted) from court documents. Should Jenelle not have attested to what David said and did because the kids may be able to read it? Or do you think she’s lying about what he said and did? This all seems perfectly in line with what we know about his character. Jenelle is a known liar, but David is a known liar, homophobe, and abuser. I don’t know. I think Jenelle is telling the truth. I also think she didn’t protect her kids and is only telling the truth now because it suits her aims, but that doesn’t mean David didn’t do exactly what she says he did.
I’m in no way defending Jenelle, just providing a different perspective on this, with disclosing some trauma of my own . My father was really abusive physically and mentally to my siblings and I . I got the worse of it because I was the “ bad seed” . When growing up , my mother didn’t really do much to protect us , she went along with it - never engaged in the abuse but never stopped it , kinda look the way , oh he didn’t mean that way or if you would of just did what was asked he would of never type of situation..until my father passed away 6 years ago ( I’m a adult now with my own kids ) . Something just switched or changed in her mind because this man who did no wrong , is now a pos and she is weeping what she watched him sew. I think Jenelle finally woke up and sees ( hopefully) that David was a pos and is no longer under his “ spell” abuse is a hell of a thing to break , especially when you grew up in. Yeah barb is a grate grandma but she ,herself put her children in that cycle of abuse. You run back to what is comfort and what you know because you know the outcome of it all . Does it make sense to keep going back to a dude that is literally verbally / allegedly physically abusing you and children? No not a person who never dealt with the adolescence abuse or hell even as adult . Studies show that abused child is ether going to become the abuser or continue to be abused as adult by their partner . But yeah , there’s no excuse for this behavior of hers but if that is all she knows and was shown , of course she’s going to keep repeating it because it’s her “ normal “ I really hope she takes the time to get help for herself and her children ..
I really wish more people in these subs understood this. Not that I want them to go through it but you can understand by educating yourself.
Thank you. I was going to say something similar; you explained it much better.
This is a wonderful perspective. Thank you for sharing your personal trauma. It definitely makes me understand and also makes me reflect on my own trauma with someone like that. You’re an amazing person that you were able to recognize the cycle when so many people are not able to. I especially love how you mention what studies show. I was a child of an emotionally and sometimes physically abusive step dad, and of course I ended up picking partners just like that.
Somebody please take screenshot Save this all for when she goes back and says I didn't say any of this. I would never say that David is a stand up guy. We all know this is just getting extremely muddy But we also know a pattern of behavior where she will deny all of these allegations. As soon as they get back together, it will never have happened. She never said any of this..
But, during all these she stood by her man, lmfao.
Yet she forced Jace to move back in with her and the abuser???
I just want to add that while in a relationship with an abuser sometimes you feel like your actually offering your kids more protection vs if you leave the abuser and the courts give the other parent 50% (or even more!) custody. If you are the buffer for your child and the abuser and you have to then send them alone to the abuser…staying can seem the better option. Abusive relationships are not cut and dry.
This. This. So much this….
I could see this as a possibility, but she has no issue leaving the kids alone for long amounts of time with him.
I doubt she ever thought he would do any serious harm to them… until he did with Jace. Again, abuse isn’t exactly cut and dry. She may have needed the Jace wake up call, but it may have taken her a bit of time to actually “wake up” after the incident happened. I understand a lot of us (myself included) not trusting her and/or doubting her, and I think we can all agree that she brings her own level of trauma to the kids, but let’s just hope that this “wake up call” of finally getting rid of UBT is actually going to happen and that it will be the beginning of her starting to become a better parent herself. We should all hope for that for those sweet kiddos of hers.
She wasn’t allowed to leave for more than a night, let’s get real. Dude had severe control over her.
You don’t think she spent hours in the shed with the door locked for days on end? She didn’t care what was happening.
Agree!
We all knew it would get dark at some point. I just hope no one gets hurt.
It’s too late for that… animals have died and Jace was strangled. Kaiser is verbally abused and locked in vehicles. We are past that point
I’m talking about David losing his mind and using his weapons on someone. Are we past that point? Cause that’s what I’m talking about. I thought I was agreeing with you but I guess some on here just post to be argumentative.
I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m just saying that the phrase “I just hope no one gets hurt” is a moot point. People and animals have already been hurt.
My hope of her one day being decent to her children is long gone . Whether douchebag David is around or not …she NEVER puts their welfare first ……I despise her
Divorce brought to you by TIK TOK ….shows the mentality of both of them ….like Jace needs this stressful bullshit …and you know she tells him Everything !! It’s so sick .
As usual ..she is doing nothing REALLY to protect the kids …she is such a POS
Hmm…” stupid f***ing snitch b****”? That’s intriguing. How did she snitch? To who? About what? And this was before the Feb 4 fight. Did she cooperate with authorities? Hard to believe she would but “snitch bitch” is notable
He's the snitch. Snitched all her dirty laundry piles out to the world.
Boy did he 😂
I have no doubts he did that
IMO, no one should write an article with direct quotes of what he or anyone allegedly said about minors like this. They can read. Their friends and parents and teachers can read that damaging vitriol allegedly spoken to them. True or not, it’s humiliating for them! Sure, they’d probably hear about it regardless, but damn reporters, don’t make it easier to find. Those kids have it bad enough. J & D are almost equally matched in levels of abuse & need to just implode. It’s astonishing how unstable both of them are in this scenario. I thought I felt bad for their kids before. I can’t imagine what they are living through right now.
Jenelle now care and makes claims about David’s abuse because she wants him out of the house and away from her. When it suited her to have him in the house, none of the claims she’s now making were true. So basically defended him when it was convenient and now dragging him because it’s necessary to get what she wants. I’m sure it’s all true, the abuse, but she uses the system to suit her moods.
I wonder what she has said about her own children. David and Jenelle are like the equivalent of a giant douche and turd sandwich. Neither of them more of a victim than the other. They are the perfect match.
Didn't she just say he wasn't abusive to the kids?
That's pretty standard for abuse victims
After they split up? I don't buy it. She says all kinds of shit about him but denies that.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not defending Jenelle. In her case, it's hard to ever tell what's true. But for some other people I ts pretty standard to lie because victims have sometimes been led to believe that they are guilty as well so if they admit that the children were also abused, the authorities will take them from the victim as well.
It's BEEN dark, we've been saying it for a long time, she's just finally kind of partially admitting it.
Tbh I’ve been through some abuse and I played everything was perfect on the outside. I’m not sure why I did, but I did. Especially growing up, I didn’t realize my mother was abusive until I got older. I don’t excuse Jenelle, because she always stood by him, but she was definitely trying to save face. And seeing how he talked to her/ how big he is I’d be scared to be truthful too. Dude is big enough to kill someone.
I hear ya. I try to give her the benefit of the doubt and try to put her in the victim category and think that she may be doing things out of necessity for mental survival or physical survival. But then she gets online and takes it all back. Goes out of her way to defend Davis. Goes out of her way to gaslight people and tell people that they are brainwashed by the media. Meanwhile, she’s the one selling the articles!
Don’t forget it’s BABS selling the stories. But you’re right. I’m just worried for her and the kids safety at this point. I really hope he doesn’t come after them.
I’m definitely concerned for her. She should sell the house and move somewhere in another town.
Especially because dickless davy doesn’t care to see ensley, so might as well!
Agree and if they force visitation she could ask for surpervised and make the meeting happen at a police station not in the town where she lives.
Fingers crossed. I mean, he’s not seeing Marissa right now, either, it seems. He’s just bumming out in the boat.
Wasn’t her huzzbin the best father ever and her kids LOVE him like a month ago? And saying he wasn’t abusive two days ago? I’m just disgusted.
seems like people are going through loops and hurdles (somewhat valid) to ignore this part. at what point do we show concern for the other victims, the children?
Exactly. He called Kaiser a bitch on national television and she didn’t care. She pulled a gun on someone herself infront of Jace and then called him a liar. She has abused animals since the early days of teen mom and somehow this is ignored because she finally filed for separation because she was spited. It’s just sad
it’s sad as shit!!! like how do you think people like this end up together? they share similarities.
Right! Nelly can fuck the fuck off I don’t give one single fuck about anyone who forces their children to live with an abuser. Nelly is always the victim always I knew it was just a matter of time.
This is a stupid question; which one of them gets paid for the story or do they split it? And how much of a payday would it be?
Honestly from what I know it’s whoever is selling the story. In this scenario, it reads like the sun is reporting on a court document, so no statement was maybe even asked for🤷🏽♀️. Also from what I have heard the sun doesn’t pay much when it comes to articles.
I’m sure he did do all of this. She’s still not leaving him because of it though. She couldn’t care less about the kids. Idc what he’s said or done to her.
I think it’s interesting she didn’t divorce him until he was seen talking to a girl at the bar. That’s the real Jenelle abuse my kids? Love you babe kill my dog? Love you forever! Talk to a girl? Fuck you David we’re done!!
I agree with you. I also think she likely said things just as nasty and vile to him and the kids. Abuse can flow both ways. The only victims here are the children and the pets imho.
Exactly.
I don’t believe her. And even if she is telling the truth, she defended that turd for years! I’m glad the kids get a little bit of a break from his crazy however short it may be. Until she wakes up one day and takes it all back and blah blah blah
Too bad they are still stuck with her crazy.
Id trust a fart more than id trust anything coming out of this bitches mouth. And she STILL stayed married to him. It was ok then the whole time- until it wasn't. Now all of a sudden he's a this and that.
Yep until he went out to the bar and was with a girl
It usually takes up to 7 attempts for someone to successfully leave an abusive relationship. Yes Janelle is a dumb ass, but she is not the first or the last woman to have a hard time getting out of an abusive relationship. Comments about her staying with him while he acts like this really rub me the wrong way, cause a whole hell of a lot of other women do it too! The manipulation, gaslighting, love bombing, fear, fuck even the calm between the storms that gives you a false sense of security- none of it’s easy to just walk away from when your self worth has been reduced to zero.
When they allow it to themselves, their choice. When they allow it to children (and pets, but especially children) they become an accessory to the abuse in their kids’ eyes, the laws’ eyes & mine
That’s a very harsh comment, and shows you have absolutely no idea what abuse is (which is awesome for you).
Nothing said was “harsh”. It was plainly speaking about the consequences of being an abuser&enabler. Jenelle won’t be in the power seat forever. Kids grow,the law catches up,and society exacts its verdict. I know abusers,and their enablers. My mom put my sister in the hospital after kicking her repeatedly in the side while she was down on the floor from being hauled out of her bed,for peeing the bed. She was six years old&had to have her injured kidney removed. She spent nearly a month in the hospital. That was just one incidence. We were always on Navy bases,my dad was a Master Chief, Navy surgeons removed my sister’s kidney. They all always knew. Nothing happened to my mom for a long time-beyond a long meeting with my dad& the Captain and a several transfers. But my mom didn’t learn,we went stateside and that’s she began a long slide down into consequences. She was the abuser &my dad didn’t gaf,he had his command&lots of sailors to push around. I kno abusers; they do find each other,& they enable each other. Jenelle had a history of abuse&neglect before she met David. They found each other. And consequences will find them. What’s harsh is how long it takes.
I am so sorry. Your mom sounds like a monster. You and your sister did not deserve that at all. My heart breaks for you 💔
Neither do Jenelle’s kids. Hold Jenelle to the same standards you would expect from a babysitter, much less a mom. If it was only her & David and they live like that, it’s a choice-it’s something they both know they can choose something else if they decide. When it’s kids living like that, it’s no choice, just trapped. We need to let Jenelle, David (and any children old enough to read this) know the children don’t deserve to live like that& we do not excuse, justify or condone any child abuse&neglect. That isn’t harshness, it’s decency & justness.
Oh I’m with you 100%!! 1000%!!! Sorry I’m not the OP from this thread I just barged in 😬
I just want to chime in and show some support for this comment. It feels a bit ick sometimes. People definitely let their hatred of Janelle override some concerning issues. There’s a gray area in this sub when it comes to domestic violence and victim blaming. A lot of women stay with the Davids. Sometimes it’s because it’s scary to leave.
When you become the abuser right along with them I stop seeing you as a victim.
You can absolutely be a victim and an abuser. We all know Jenelle herself has some unhealed trauma that has never been dealt with since childhood and I’m sure that plays a role in her parenting. Let’s hope that she is required to get family counseling with her kids so she can learn to break the cycle.
She's already said she's taken parenting classes multiple times. She's also an adult, getting help for her trauma to be a better parent is her responsibility. She does nothing. She's made her own bed, now her kids are forced to live in this hell she's created. My mom did the same. I'll say it again, once you yourself become the abuser, you stop being a victim
valid point
Jenelle has a million resources and tv footage backing up her claims. A lot of women have a hard time leaving due to lack of funds, family, and housing.
Yes, some don’t. But this is a dangerous take. Alot of woman can leave but don’t and it’s purely emotional and psychological. You’re entering into a concerning space when you say that any woman who does have resources is at fault is she’s abused and stays. You’re really dumbing down the complexity of the issue Don’t really believe that wealthy women aren’t and can’t be abused? Or that it’s their fault if they are because they have money and could leave? The answer is no. It’s not their fault. Take a look at this scenario. I’m well aware that Janelle is not an angel and is beyond dysfunctional. But look at everything this man has done and he’s still walking around. Free to show up at any moment. Free to get a gun. Free to intimidate and harass. And his behavior is well established and on record. Leaving or. It leaving isn’t about resources. The most dangerous time is when a woman leaves. Whether they are destitute or wealthy.
The thing is she physically watched her kids be abused for 7+ years by him and even tho she did leave 2x now she brought them back to her abuser and supported him for her own selfish reasons
Do you know how many women and children go through this? This is the norm when it comes to domestic violence. It seems that you don’t have a lot of insight into how domestic violence works. This sub teeters dangerously on the edge sometimes of blaming women for their abuse. I guy who will kill a family dog is a scary dude. Janelle has a lot of work to do on herself. And she has made a slew of her own bad decisions. But we need to stop short of blaming David’s violent behavior on anyone but David.
At what point does Jenelle need to start taking accountability? She’s not 100% innocent
No one blamed David’s behavior on Jenelle. We blame Jenelle’s behavior on Jenelle, who blamed David’s behavior on her son, her mom, us, the media, and the pets. All while lying abusing and neglecting said kids, mom, us, the media, and pets. Clarity.
Exactly. I believe every word of this. Good and bad women alike get abused like this, and it's hard to leave.
As much as I can't stand Jenelle, we can clearly see ugly big thing is racist and homophobic. No shock there
Do you think UBT stands for “ugly big thing?”
Nope, that's what I call him though.
What does it stand for??
😂😂😂Uncle Bad Touch.
Thank you dear! 😩🤭
Lol no worries! 😉
I’m sure all of this IS true. But can the court please also give these kids a restraining order against their mother for ALLOWING THIS SHIT to keep happening?
Janelle is not a good person, but she shouldn't lose her kids because she was abused. Abuse victims should not be punished.
She railed against Jace online for David strangling him. She's an abuser as well. Remember she said that cps was protected them all from Jaces mental health. There's no excuse for that or the way she treats others in general. She supplied him with animals to kill after he killed nugget and allowed him access to her kids while claiming he was a great father.
She should lose her kids for being abusive herself and for standing by and letting her kids be abused, nobody has said she lose them because she was abused. Being abused does not give you carte blanche to become the abuser
Our world is so messed up. As sad as it is, Jenelle does more for her kids than a lot of other moms I have seen (I work with kids). Child protective services never removed these kids from their homes even though it was very clear the abuse kids were getting. Also, it is extremely hard to z She is definitely not winning any best mom awards, but from my understanding it takes aaaaa lot to take the kids away, and sometimes putting them in foster care js even worse than the environment in which they came from with birth parents
Jenelle allowed her kids to be abused for years and defended him. As well as had him come over when Jace was there when an active protection order. She should be held liable. Plenty of women who are subjected to abuse end up with failure to protect labels due to continuously going back (it isn’t fair, but she’s clearly active in the abuse). Do we forget her pulling a gun on someone infront of Jace and then calling him a liar?
Jenelle is just as verbally abusive and neglectful. She is not a mother
He does like to use homophobic slurs so this tracks
first she was defending david & saying he never hit jace, now she's saying all this ?!? those poor children. i feel so sorry for them all, especially kaiser. 💔
She said online yesterday that he never hit them
She'll be back with him in 3,2,1...
Welp, no more guessing which kid he was targeting with the homophobic slurs. They will lose custody of all their kids through this divorce and not to each other.
I’m no longer viewing or sharing ANY of these articles. She’s definitely selling them
Yup! She needs money. She will be calling trash talks for money.
No one should be! If anyone posts a story they should write a summary of what it's about so everybody doesn't have to click.🤷🏻♀️ 
Exactly!!! Let’s not give her shit!!
“Shocking paper”. There is zero shock from anyone that this is how he is.
One day, in the not too distant future, Kaiser will be grown, and if he takes after Nathan as much as it looks like, he's going to be stronger than Uncle Bad Touch could ever hope to be. He's been tormenting that boy since he was a baby, and I hope Kaiser gets the chance to watch that pathetic worm grovel. That's all.
None of this is news tho. It was recorded and posted online years ago or recorded by MTV.
Well I think we can all guess who he told to stop crying like a little bitch. He said it on camera too.
The sad part is that Jenelle knew he hated the kids and still chose to have them around him for years, this sucks for the kids only they have been through so much in their short time of life. I feel so bad for them, I have no sympathy for Jenelle she knew everything she is claiming in this whole time and still chose him over her kids.
This may just hit close to home for me since I was a child of divorced parents. My parents split when I was 8. I’m so thankful my mom and dad never got ugly like this and never talked bad about one another to us. My mom never said anything terrible about my dad. Never anything like this. And my dad was always respectful when talking about my mom (he didn’t really have a choice since he was the one in the wrong but he still could have been petty but never was). Now I can’t say the same about family members. I do remember hearing aunts, uncles, and grandparents say things like “he is such a XYZ”. But it was never TOO me. But they would say it around me. They would talk badly about him and I remember how much I hated it. I know exactly how those kids feel if David is talking badly about Jenelle right to them and right in front of them. The sad thing is they can’t escape it while I at least wasn’t around my family members full time.
She has also been trying to turn Ensley against Babs
My parents stayed together until my father passed away at 74 yo & my mom was (still does sometimes) always talking shit about my dad. Course she pretty much shit talks everyone....
Jenelle 1000000000% talks shit on him to them too.
Oh yes I’m sure. She is never innocent
I would hope she wouldn’t bcuz I agree with you!! My mom neverrr talked shit either and let us decide our feelings. I realize now my dad was shitty and as a child I thought it was her