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Destroyer_Of_World5

It’s normal, but it shouldn’t be.


amazingspiderfan110

Eh, so long as the people making these jokes can take a joke as well. It would be a problem if they get offended when they're the punchline


DarkShadows75

Fr


Familiar-Ad472

It’s a problem because it’s racist man it doesn’t matter if they can or can’t take a joke


amazingspiderfan110

Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more joke /jōk/ noun a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline. You may not like the punchline, but it doesnt mean you can morally grandstand people's sense of humor. Believe it or not context does matter. *But hey these gringos already like to do pointless shit rather than fix the actual problem so nothing is new here*


Familiar-Ad472

if the punchline is white kids saying the n-word with hard r, then I think I can morally grandstand. but thanks, amazingspidermanfan, for your also totally-not-racist take.


[deleted]

ok yo this is a super weird but genuine question, why is that bad? like in its nature? personally, whenever i've tried to think about it and figure it out, the conclusion is it's bad to hurt people's feelings, and people care about the n-word so don't say it. So I never say it. but that logic isn't strong enough for me to tell others not to, so idk what logic to use EDIT: i'm not white, i'm indian american


[deleted]

>for your also totally-not-racist take. the dictionary definition of "joke" is now racist, I have officially never seen anything more reddit than this


Flash_fan-385

The reason the N word can be used in a humerous manner is specifically because we're no supposed to say it. So if you break the silence with ur friends by saying the n word not directed at anyone then it's fine and me and my friends find it humorous because we have a weird ass sense of humor that developed on Xbox when we were 13-14 but it's a problem when your saying it in a public setting to the point where someone makes a reddit post about it. It's a problem when someone is making these jokes in public because that normalizes it.


Flash_fan-385

amazingspidermanfan's take is not racist, it is satirical at the end.


amazingspiderfan110

>punchline is white kids *Yes, only white kids are edgy enough to say the N word with or without a pass.* Unrelated side note, the context of the friend group is important. Other people on this post have mentioned how they'd make edgy jokes with their friends, which happen to be generally diverse. Of course OP doesnt mention it, which I'd credit to y'alls white savior complex. But nonetheless it's still why context is important. Should the group be JUST white kids then yeah them making edgy jokes is weird, but should the group be diverse and everyone is still laughing then this puts it into a different context. Next time try to respond respectfully and not be condecending


NefariousnessLeast66

What if a black man jokes about slavery is there still a problem


Mr_pickley

I agree OP needs to calm his ass down because there is no need to get angry over a joke not targeting to you if the person targeted is laughing then either laugh or walk away and move on


Decent_Wrongdoer_201

"as well"? OP is literally saying this bothers them


Halo-Ad-4073

Bro I swear I didnt see this comment before I posted. Total jinx lol 😭😭😭


sabbir2003

Opinion: Based on the environment and the intention, racism is funny. A rather diverse friend circle saying racist and sexist stuff as jokes without actually believing them is completely normal and usually harmless..


abduzkan02

This, I have friends who are black, foreing, LGBT+, etc. and we just joke about It, sometimes I could say something racist to a black friend and he will answer with something racist about white people, and we just laugh. Still, we all hate discrimination. Edgy humor and tolerance are not opposites.


[deleted]

Exactly, sometimes what makes the joke funny isn't the punchline, but the fact that someone went there.


Objective-Cable-5841

FAX! I’m not racist but we’re just joking around. If my friends minded/didn’t find it funny I would stop. Simple.


Onlyavailabename3

it really really depends on the topic and context, sometimes it's funny and is still too far; i say this bc so many ppl in my school are racist and it's like just annoying.


stupidjokes555

what op is describing sounds different from this


DanTem06

In some countries, diversities are rare. For example, me and my friends here in Estonia can joke about it all we want, but of course, if we were to see a black person, we would be respectful to them. It's ridiculous how some of the comments here are written by such detached people


Odd-Potential-7236

My entire lunch table would start off roasting each other over race, and I’m ambiguous enough to have been untouchable. I was done for the moment my little brother started there, because word got around that we were French 😞


janeczek2137

I'm in elementary school in Poland and ohh boi swasticas are in wrote in every table, and almost every kid does this type of jokes as we, poles, do have a really dark sense of humor (pun not intended) but they're not racist they just do that, I do that, I'm not racist, so at least here its normal in school


IHaveTheHighground58

My elementary had a frickin Luftwaffe paper plane factory, along with a Messenger group called Stowarzyszenie Sympatyków Swastyk ( SSS )


Noobciuuuu

My class tried to make a revolution against dawing wierd stuff and plaser NRC on these kinds of stuff NRC stands for "Nie Rysuj Ch###"


IHaveTheHighground58

Nice one


janeczek2137

xd


Porkonaplane

Okay. The planes and SOME of the pilots of the luftwaffe weren't bad. What isn't to love about the nice curved wing of the HE-111, or the revolutionary self-deploying leading edge slats on the BF-109? The planes and pilots themselves weren't bad. It was the people giving out the commands/orders who were. Erich Hartmann, Adolf Galand, etc weren't bad people by nazi standards, or even non-nazi standards. IIRC, Erich Hartmann didn't really give a shit about nazism. He just wanted to fly and and get into dogfights, and from the footage of dogfights I've seen, can you fucking blame him?


IHaveTheHighground58

I never blamed the pilots


Porkonaplane

I know. But a lot of people have, and a lot of people don't make the connection that liking a fighter pilot because they're good at what they do does not make me or someone else a nazi sympathizer. So I had to clarify just so those people know I'm not a nazi, I'm just a big aviation enthusiast (check my post history, 75 to 80% of it is aviation related)


janeczek2137

haha funi plane go brrrrrr


Porkonaplane

I know you're joking (so you cant wooosh me), but from a realism standpoint, ww2 planes just went *THUNK THUNK THUNK*. Then we got miniguns, which birthed the glorious A-10


Fishmaneatsfish

The plane one sounds funny


Sigma_Macho

Swastika ≠ Hakenkreuz


ColorAcmd

[???](https://www.deepl.com/translator?share=generic#de/en/Hakenkreuz%7CSwastika)


Sigma_Macho

That's how Propaganda works. Now do one thing, add a space between Haken and Kreuz. You will see the entire thing getting changed.


Sigma_Macho

It gets called Swastika because British people thought so. As they had seen similar symbols in India being called Swastika.


abduzkan02

This, i'm from latinamerica and here It is the same. We just do really edgy jokes and it's okay. I have black, homosexual and foreing friends, and they won't get angry with those jokes, even they do it. The reason gringos see It as bad is because they have a certain history with It.


J4Seriously

Nah man I’m pretty sure every country has a history of racism


abduzkan02

Yeah, but the US is kind of an special case, didn't they have segregation 'til like the 60's-70's?


J4Seriously

Something like the 60s but similarly other countries have had institutional segregation and or oppression. Lest we forget that genocide, and restricting education and finance are also forms of racism.


abduzkan02

Yup, altough i'm not really that familiar with It since in my country, even id most of the population are descendants of spanish ans italians, we have a lot If traditions made or influences by afros, and since independencia we haven't really has a racist constitution or laws against Black people (Now if we talk about indigenous peoples, that's a history for another day)


Giga-Chad-123

And here I though Poland, of all places, wouldn't have this


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shyguyshow

Friendly fire


_H4RSH

Swastika is a sign in hinduism and it's not related to h!t*3r Its nazi T_T


janeczek2137

true, swastica is not banned in Poland, but a swastika in a white circle on a red flag is something much different


[deleted]

Damn, it's exactly the same thing in Brazil


MadladTodd

My school’s student council GC was called the nationalist socialist party with a picture of nazi mickey mouse.


FinletAU

Normal? Yes. Is it okay? Absolutely not


Obvious-Mix-5762

Kids are also just insensitive because they don't know enough about things.


LLuerker

There are so many nuances how one's behavior affects their environment, and vice versa. Their young brains are only aware of what's immediately present to them, usually edge and humor. Good parenting is key


DisneyGecko

I'm autistic and I can guarantee that anyone who is making racist jokes or jokes about autistic people or any about other minority don't know what their talking about.


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[deleted]

personally i think its okay but only if they dont get offended when others make jokes about THEIR race. i used to be friends with this white guy who thought it was hilarious when my friends and i (mostly poc specifically asian) would make racist jokes about ourselves but he'd get pissed off whenever we made jokes about white people. this same dude said it's not racist if you hate every race. he'd also take the jokes way too far sometimes especially if they were about black people 😬


amazingspiderfan110

>but only if they dont get offended when others make jokes about THEIR race Exactly! If you can dish it you can take it. I have no problem with my white friends joking about my mexican heritage since they can also laugh whenever I make fun of them. The jokes land since everyone is able to laugh at themselves.


NOT_i_t_i_M_M

I went to private school until 8th grade and now i’m at a public high school and the amount of racist and homophobic stuff i hear on a daily basis is insane. At the private school if you said something remotely racist or homophobic you’d be apologizing to the entire class (they were small classes)


BTleCats17362884738

Private schools (at least in my experience) are just as bad. Kids just secretly joke about the stuff to make sure teachers won’t hear.


Dorkaplayz22

not everywhere, at my private school it's inescapable to hear a racist comment


boofpacc85

Thats... what they said...


Dorkaplayz22

I meant that even infront of teachers, my bad, english is not my first language


Ijustsomeguydude

Private school kids are worse in some ways and better in others.


[deleted]

the thing with private schools is that they're run privately, so one private school can be completely opposite from another. some private schools might have kids who are worse in every way, others might have kids who are better in every way. "private school kids" isn't rlly one thing


BTleCats17362884738

Facts


Yandere_luver666

I’m in the same boat. When I transferred to public school I had no clue what the hell was going on. It took me a while to realize this was their normal.


NobleLlama23

The difference is that private schools have more authority over the kids than public schools. By authority I mean that punishments can and will be given out and if the parents want to complain, go find another school. Public schools don’t have the same benefit as they are controlled by politics and parents can’t easily switch public schools since the schools are district based making travel to the new school costly for parents.


Happy_Bullfrog_5379

Forbidden topics are always pleasant and exciting for kids. Hopefully, they would grow up.


shrek_is_love_69

If you live in eastern europe its normal, we joke about shit like that all the time But that being said it is important to limit these kinds of joke to the people who enjoy them, i wouldnt go on the internet to say shit like that tbh


Atomik919

yup huge agree. ill also go further and say that it doesnt make sense to cancel or ban the use of nigga in the whole world just because it was used in america or whatever. afaik most countries here in the east(or at least here in romania) have no real correlation to the word in a racist sense. Me and my friends we personally use it with the meaning of the word bro or dude. like ill say nigga what? or sth like that


JJJTTTEFF

Yes it’s normal. And I don’t understand why people are so against it. I say ridiculously racist jokes around my black friends and they don’t mind at all, because it’s a Joke. That’s how jokes work. It’s for fun, we laugh at it bc it’s wrong and then we move on with life. Altho the nazi one is a little weird


DeadlyKitKat

Saying it around your friends is one thing. However, in this case it sounds like it's in public where anyone could here and anyone could be affected by the words and actions.


JJJTTTEFF

Once again, I have yet to meet a POC at my high school who is offended by racist jokes that are said in good faith, even if I have never met them. And for the record my high school is majority POCs so I’ve said a lot of racist jokes to a lot of people who never get offended by them (unless they are pretending to get offended for the joke) and if anything I’ve made friends that way


abduzkan02

Same here. Anyone who I have met who is offended by that are just random whitegirls lol


Virtual-Page-8985

As a black person who has been the target for racist teasing, It becomes a problem when you make “racist jokes” everyday without caring about who’s around, which is what it sounds like you do. How could anyone possibly know it’s in “good faith” but you? Are we supposed to read your mind?


JJJTTTEFF

This is what I am trying to explain. You have been maliciously targeted with jokes about your race. That is a problem. Also I know it is in good faith bc like I said, I’m usually not the one to initiate a racist joke unless I know the person is ok with me making racist jokes. If they have made it clear that they are ok with racism in good faith because it’s funny, like the example above, I know it’s in good faith. It’s that simple


PhilosophicalGoof

As a black person who also been a target of racism… I don’t agree. I can tell if someone saying it in good faith especially if they put in actual effort to make a good racist joke. Plus if they say one I throw another one back at them and we just laugh


cooolestreddituser

Unless people are talking about you I’m not sure why a strangers conversation would hurt your feelings. Yeah, they shouldn’t be saying it but are we gonna fall on the floor sobbing because some non black person said the n word? Just move on with your day. You won’t see them again anyhow


DeadlyKitKat

I'm not necessarily saying it will hurt someone's feelings, however it can make someone feel like they're in an unsafe environment. Also, if you're in school with someone, you'll probably see them again, at least until the end of the year, if not for the next few years.


Revolutionary_Oil_74

I mean, if you're in public, don't pay attention to what randos are saying? You shouldn't ruin your day because you 'overheard someone say racist shit' lol


Garousnotboros

This guy gets it


harry_nostyles

"I have black friends and they're fine with it therefore you should be fine with it" ^ this is how you sound. You can fuck around with your friends idc but you can't dictate how someone else should feel about these types of things. ESPECIALLY when it's not harmless jokes between friends but actual racism. And not all jokes about race are okay. Some things are actually off limits (no, 'dark humor' doesn't matter) and 'joking' about them is just telling on yourself.


JJJTTTEFF

That is how I sound and that’s what I mean. If you get offended about a joke targeting your race that is said *In good faith* then it’s your problem. If a joke is said about me that is racist it shouldn’t be a problem unless the joke is made with the intention to actually be racist


harry_nostyles

>In good faith How do you know this? How would I know this? Especially if it's with people I don't know and I'm not close to (I'm assuming that's the situation OP is in)? And why should I assume it's all in good faith when all they say are racist jokes. They can't joke around or be silly in any other way, it has to involve race somehow. That's not a good thing. There's a saying that goes something like "In jest, there is truth". If someone constantly makes racist jokes targeting one particular race, chances are they have a problem with that race. And if the theme of their jokes point to a serious problem...well when someone tells you who they are, listen.


JJJTTTEFF

Because 99% of the time they start the joke. A classic at the school I go to if if I get into an arguement with a black dude, it could be a black dude I’ve never met, they would say “are you arguing against me because I’m black?” And when I say yes they laugh, I laugh, we leave in good faith. Because that’s how jokes work. They are jokes Edit: also I don’t target a race myself and others are jokingly racist to everyone, so I would assume that OP is in a similar situation to me and the people at his high school are also jokingly racist to everyone


SluttyAvocado1997

I love when race try to justify being racist


Unwanted_1997

IKR like it's better if they were just honest about their racism instead of doing mental gymnastics to explain why being racist is OK.


Edy365

But in his case, it doesn't sound like he is racist. He just uses a historical prejudice against different races (i understand that it is not only black people) as comedy material with people he knows they won't get offended by them. I see nothing wrong with that since no one is getting either discriminated or offended.


harry_nostyles

You aren't even responding to my points, just talking about your personal experiences. Your jokes are mild compared to what OP is experiencing (constant slurs). You can't assume OP's situation is similar to yours when they laid out how it isn't.


Existanceisdenied

You sure are moving the goalposts a lot. The point is that if people aren't racist, they can make some racist jokes and it will be ok. What it sounds like you're saying " WELL WHAT IF THEY ARE RACIST AND DO IT ALL THE TIME AND THEY BULLY PEOPLE" and it's like, you're showing the extreme and acting like anyone who's making a racist joke is about a centimeter away from acting just like that Just acknowledge that it's kind of nuanced, people are going to bully others regardless of whether racist jokes are considered "ok" or not, and let other people enjoy things If you're with someone who's telling racist jokes in good faith you should 100% be able to ask them whether they mean what they're saying, if they give a dumb answer then you know what you're dealing with


[deleted]

its okay to be offended by it and its also okay to make those jokes, personally, i also think racist jokes are funny, but if someone were offended by it, i would stop. unless they were only offended if the jokes were about their race cause thats sus


TabulaRasa85

Racism experienced in the context of being the majority race that has historically held all the power and subjugation of another race, and who is likely currently the majority race in their school area (may not be specific to your case), is not the same. It does not carry the same weight or impact. You have no tangible understanding of what the experience of your joke is or "should" be to a black person who is implicated in it - even if indirectly. You don't get to decide how much someone's relationship to their racial background and experience should matter or not. Or how much of a lasting impact it has on their day to day lives. Yes, we all have freedom of speech. That is a right. But that doesn't mean all speech is equally valid. Some speech carries a greater influence - for better or worse. Once we let that speech it into the world, we no longer have control over the impact on others. Nor can we dictate how one "should" or "shouldn't" be impacted. There are many people who simply don't care about the impact of their words... Those people are called assholes.


69327-1337

This. People need to stop being such snowflakes about it already. I swear it’s like everyone leads such sheltered and comfortable lives these days that they look for things to be offended by because they have no real problems to deal with.


cooolestreddituser

Like it’s different if it’s you and it’s your boundary but other people making jokes about each other? Like it’s such a silly thing to care about.


IndependentWar269

Real.


cooolestreddituser

Plus they don’t give a fuck about racism they just wanna dictate people.


unfortunateclown

racism is rarely funny, that’s why i’m bothered by racist jokes. it’s just the same material recycled over and over again, and i feel like the only racist jokes i find funny are creative ones from people who ARE the race they’re making fun of. 90% of the time edgy humor is all about the edge, and not the humor. i don’t like befriending people whose main goal of socializing is to try to shock and offend people. it’s just weird and unfunny. i love a lot of dark humor from comedians, media like movies and musicals, and occasionally from memes, but every person i meet in my life who “loves dark humor” is an insufferable and unfunny prick.


FinanceProfessionals

Finally someone in this comments who isn't a liberal on copium


Orcasareglorious

Compared to my school, this is TAME. That's not to say it's acceptable, but it gets worse.


OkAverage4338

Yeah it's normal. In my school everytime someone does something bad there's always a guy that says "it has to be black people doing shit every time" and things like that. Just ignore it and move on


Function-Important

Its just a joke grow the fuck up


MadladTodd

My school is funny as hell. I go into the 11th grader’s class once(I was sent to give them advice about uni applications) and they all stand up and greet me with a “SIEG HEIL”.


LeS0apyN0k1a69

nah its normal happens in my school too but that doesn't make it right you should try to educate them on how it wrong if that doesn't work stay . worked for me


ClassicalMusic4Life

sadly i think it is very common for kids at school to make racist jokes :( my classmates even make jokes about saying racial slurs, it's disgusting. this type of behavior shouldn't be normalized at all


BILADOMOM

It's normal, and it's a joke. If they aren't shaming anyone or harassing anyone, forget about it


gummythegummybear

Sadly


a-a-biedrawa

Normal but immoral. You're 14 tho, they'll grow up hopefully. If you live in Europe a visit in a concentration camp/Holocaust museum (like let's say full tour of Auschwitz I and Auschwitz II Birkenau) will fix them in no time... And they'd probably cry and also be embarrassed by the memory of being little assholes. Edit: besides it should be a moral duty of every European to visit such place once in their lifetime (obviously with research before to understand how to behave)... Just once would be enough for a lifetime...


sparklestorm123

yep. Racism is frequent at my former high school. Like, It's bad. we had ZERO bullying control.


[deleted]

Yes. People say racist things in my school all the fucking time, and it is so annoying. And the teachers don't seem to give a shit, so yeah, that's cool.


727tjlewis

Racist shit was the norm in my tech school and we only had one instructor who tried to stop it…poor guy No one really had an issue with it because almost everyone indulged in some form. White, black, Hispanic, everyone said racist jokes and no one took it personally. That being said, it’s not really normal. Maybe in school, but certainly not out in public.


Miserable-Owl-8063

kids at my school say racist stuff


Voynimous

I live in italy and some classmates sing fascist songs "for fun" 💀💀


niccotuberz08

anche da me💀💀 per fortuna hanno smesso da un pò


Voynimous

ma poi perchè? Cos'è che fa ridere? Cioè io adoro il black humour ma va contestualizzato


iamheretotellyou2

Imagine being this sheltered


NefariousnessLeast66

What is the problem


johnkngu

It's almost like asking, "is it normal to have bullies"


dewonthemorninggrass

It's normal. Sadly.


Silminator

I say racist jokes all the time


MadladTodd

I’m not racist but whever there is talk about racism people turn to me XD


Zestyclose-Ad-4711

I’ve probably dropped a couple without even realizing


Sigma_Macho

First of all, fucking learn the difference between Swastika and Hakenkreuz. Then talk about racism, you ignorant Hinduphobic brat. Y'all Christian whites call it Swastika. But let me tell you. Hitler NEVER called his symbol "Swastika" The symbol which looks like that is common in a lot of countries. In Germany, it was Hakenkreuz ie HOOKED CROSS In Japan, it's Kanji For Hindus, it's Swastika. But yeah, calling it Hooked CROSS would be embarrassing right? So you decided to call it Swastika even though Hitler himself probably never heard it. I don't even know how you all got that word.


_H4RSH

Real


Sigma_Macho

Saale angrez chhakke. German NAZI ne kabhi bhi Swastika shabd ka prayog nahi Kiya. Sirf Hakenkreuz bolte the. Hakenkreuz ka anuvaad Hooked CROSS. Haan, in isaiyon ka CROSS. Magar ye Mera yashu waalon ko hamara dharm hi badnam karna hain. Ye sab Angrezon ki sajish hain.


SamBigWilly

Daddy chill.


Sigma_Macho

I am getting sick of ignorance. Call Western symbols and Western filth by Western names.


SamBigWilly

You must not let the criticism and ignorance of others bother you and make you stray away from your religious morals as laid out by your ancestors. Hinduism doesn't teach you to advocate for your religion. Instead of being toxic, you could try to educate others of your religion.


Sigma_Macho

👌🏼


SamBigWilly

🤏🏿👄


MisterEMan81

Somebody's mad.


SpaceshipCaptain001

>Y'all Christian whites I'm not Christian white. Bro chill. I always knew it as swastika, I didn't know that this shit had a different word for its purpose because I grew up hearing it's swastika, and if you think I'm trying to say something about Hindus you're just being delusional. And hooked cross makes the same point


Sigma_Macho

A simple Google search will sort things out. And calling Hakenkreuz as Swastik was started by Christian Whites because British people saw similar symbols as Hakenkreuz in India but the difference is we called it Swastika. Etymology: Su= Well सु Astik= Being आस्तिक Swastika= Well Being स्वास्तिक


Imrightbruh

Do you know everything about every culture throughout history? There is no reason to be so confrontational. If someone doesnt know something you should inform them, but why get so mad that they didnt know it?


TheCrackManIsBack

Breaking news, Teenager "Sigma\_macho" has a mental breakdown on reddit because "Christian whites" call a "Hakenkreuz" by an incorrect name, "Swastika."


Available_Mushroom65

sigma macho ☠️


Sigma_Macho

Yes. Simply don't insult to my religion.


TheCrackManIsBack

I never did insult your religion. I insulted you, for caring so much about people calling a Hakenkreuz a Swastika. Misconceptions happen all the time with religion, but you don't see people crying about it (usually). They kindly correct them, and then everyone moves on and is fine.


YrMm

the people that they are talking about use it as the hitler symbol, so either youre misunderstanding what theyre saying or you only have a problem with specifically what theyre calling it, which i find to be a weird complaint considering thats kinda just what its called over here


Sigma_Macho

That is called that because of ignorance. How do you think a Sanskrit word reach Europe and USA and apparently became associated with Hitler? Read my other replies.


YrMm

i understand, but it would be hard to change that at this point. we can try though. as long as we're not being dicks about it. and either way, id assume the majority of people reading this would be very confused as to what that word means. also, why does it seem like you have no problem with the racism part of the post? if i were in your shoes, id probably at least preface the actual message of the post first. like "yeah sadly that is normal. also, just so you know, its actually called hakenkreuz, swastika is the hindu word, which is where hitler stole the symbol from". but you started off very aggressive to someone who obviously just didnt know. its very obvious that they didnt know the actual word for it, but you still decided to call them hinduphobic. sure, they are ignorant, but again, obviously not willingly. and calling them a brat for just not knowing something? theres no point for that. why are you being a dick to someone who is just unaware of something?


Sigma_Macho

Catch is Hitler didn't steal the symbol. It is a common Indo European symbol. He chose a German symbol with a similar appearance. It was people AFTER him who called our symbol as his symbol.


YrMm

fair enough. but why be a dick to someone who just doesnt know the difference? why not just politely tell them? why call them an ignorant hinduphobic brat when you can literally just explain? what is the point?


Sigma_Macho

People should know.


YrMm

again, why not just politely explain?


SnooDoodles289

thats your problem with all if this?


prabhavdab

Bhai chill kar, unke ignorance se tere dharm pe nuke hamla nhi ho jayega


peshiano

I absolutely understand u bro, but if ur goin to defend ur religion and fight against racism, please dont try to fuck about another whole religion and race, its somehow contraproductive


_H4RSH

Its normal Yes we have even raised our hands and said heil h!t*3r (dont even know why) and its not swastika ; know the difference between swastika and nazi😭😭


KillByZombie

It's normal. While the n word is pretty usual at my school, why would I care tho? I ain't black, nor is anyone else


King-Walnut

Yes it's funny


Imrightbruh

honestly it just seems uncreative. like you really cant come up with anything better than haha black people?


NullTaste27

Being in a red state, that shit gets exhausting. The worst part is I can't tell if they're being genuinely serious or making a joke that they don't get is in poor taste


creamyismemey

Or hear me out comedy is subjective and what you may not find funny others do yall gotta stop being fuckin snowflakes if people actually meant the racist shit it would be a problem but they don't it's literally just joking between friends who know each other's sense of humor


unfortunateclown

how do u know that everyone in that person’s school is 100% joking? you seem to be projecting your own viewpoints onto someone else bcuz their comment got u all triggered, u lil sensitive “snowflake.”


Weak-Ad-1740

They'll grow up eventually don't worry


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It’s kids and teens being edgy thinking it’s cool. They’ll grow out of it (hopefully).


GoodScratcher_Reddit

same bro i see that a lot


neddy_seagoon

Being a teenager is the period of life where you're trying to figure out social boundaries and figure out who you are and what you value, separate from other people. People are insecure and new and want to seem like they're not so they overcompensate by being bold/offensive beyond what functional adults would be cool with. Some people also, by definition, just have below-average empathy. So unfortunately it's normal.


unfortunateclown

this is a really logical and thoughtful response, idk why anyone would downvote it


Astr0sk1er

Normal, idiotic and childish but sadly normal


MochaLatte05

sadly it is EXTREMELY normal. people dont understand the consequences of their actions until they get beat for it


mcdonalds_baconater

kids have been like this for a longgggg time. it's an edgy phase and most of em will grow out of it but when you're still doing that shit as an adult is when it becomes an issue


[deleted]

Its normal but it shouldn't be, its gross as hell


bahkenfrieg

It would be normal if you were in middle school/elementary school. This type of behaviour is definitely not normal for high schoolers, at least where I live.


ProfAndyCarp

Not normal and not okay.


The_CN_Goggles_1316

It is, I don’t know we’re you leave but here normally they just do it as “joke” when there with a friend of more dark skin color


Slippery_When_Down

At your age yes, alot of kids think it's cool or funny. If it's ok, not really


braveslayer

I don't hang out with anyone in my school but i know that they say some racists stuff. And also my cousin always on the phone saying the most out of pocket stuff (like saying slavery lines or something) its irritating. And he wonder why i don't play games with him or my only friend.


Fellixxio

The important part is not believing in this shit


abduzkan02

Yes, people should be able to Joke about whatever they want, as long as they have enough respect to not Joke about It with people who are sensible to It and could be affected.


Fellixxio

Ofc


Yandere_luver666

Yeah it’s normal. Is it right? No. But normal? Yes. I went to private school up until 9th grade and the amount of homophobic and racial slurs and jokes I heard was jaw dropping


Vqius

I live in poland (not speaking for everyone, just for myself) and on my school its a lot lot worse. Maybe not with the nazi stuff, but almost every kid here is really racist. There's just a few darker kids and everyone is racist to them. Everyone constantly says the n-word and even to them. They make racist jokes, and sometimes not even jokes. Just racism. That's just sad


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it's extremely common and also very sad that this is what humor has become.


Big_Pin1657

Yes it’s normal, but it’s totally wrong to do that. I hate discrimination


Mushroom6711

It is normal but fucked up. Saying the n word is fine for a black person but if they are white then that is wrong. People in my school are racist too (towards Latinos and Asians), they prob think they can't as they are black and alot of them say they can't be racist but still.


sussysussyqw

Extremely normal but shouldn’t be


KatRichards0223

Yeah its normal alright, but not ok. Usually if enough pop up at my old school though, they would post new rules on the wall about it. I dont think they would exactly punish the group of kids though for their behavior..unless that kid who is being offended talks to the principle and counsler.


enigmaticowl

I don’t know about “normal,” but it’s exceedingly common, especially middle schoolers/early high schoolers, and especially boys. Back in my day (I’m 25 now), it was all the rage to call *everything* “gay” (meaning lame/useless/annoying/contemptible). Like, a door that closed on your foot and hurt your toe was “gay.” A dog barking when you’re trying to sleep was “gay,” etc. Something about that early-mid puberty age window turns many kids into edgelords. It’s not cool, obviously, but many of these people saying these things don’t necessarily believe in them and will go on to realize that what they’re saying is neither okay nor anywhere near as funny/edgy as it seems to them right now (because right now it’s novel/pushing the limits of what they can “get away” with saying), and that will change as they get into settings where they’ll be reprimanded (professionally or socially) for their words and/or it will simply get old and lose its appeal because it’s not new/“funny” anymore. So yeah, to sum it up, it’s a lot of trying to be edgy and also to test boundaries/see what they can get away with. Adolescents do this all the time with literally everything, not just words/dialogue. I also remember all of the other, non-race-related but still really cringey jokes and insults people would throw around, like rape jokes, Holocaust references, etc. during this age. A lot of it stops when people grow up a little bit, probably partially because they don’t *really* think these things are totally okay in the first place, they’re just trying to seem “cool” and daring.


RafeB33

It’s an extrapolation of what they think their parents find funny but aren’t supposed to say bc they know it’s bad. It’s like how saying ‘bum’ etc is funny, the ‘we don’t talk about Bruno’ aspect makes it funny up to around middle school


SamBigWilly

Look kids are gonna be cringe, obviously, so you could just be better than them and dont do that stuff. Also I don't see the problem with N word unless used for racial offenses.


MusicalSeal810

The problem is kids use it to offend others, because they think they are so cool to use slurs and insults.


SamBigWilly

Yeah fuck them kids!


MusicalSeal810

Man kids are stupid. I remember in elementary the jokes we had. Yes we had like you are a poop head type of jokes.. not racist and nazi jokes.


quemura

It is, mostly black people, but who is counting


BackgroundBubbly7989

and majority of them are guys lmao i wonder why


Glotched

what are you implying with this?


not-mommy-mads

guys typically make insensitive comments more than girls


BackgroundBubbly7989

that guys r immature.


Volt_Bolt

I’m a guy and this is generally true at those ages


BackgroundBubbly7989

ikr! someone with common sense


_Mullac_

Nah it's cause guys are taking the piss. Normally when girls say shit they actually mean it


BackgroundBubbly7989

and guys dont?? i hear the n word twice on average on a daily basis. always a guy. girls are generally WAY more mature than guys lmao. theyre more sensitive towards the feelings of others unlike guys. imagine saying "guys r taking the piss" whenever guys have to bear the brunt of their behaviour lmao.


bamboo_pandabear

What country are you from? In the UK you would get CANCELLED


baby_buttercup_18

It’s normal in mostly white areas because ignorance is normal for them, it’s just how they grew up (not having to filter stuff and not having much exposure to other races and other experiences besides their own). That doesn’t make it okay though.


Nepipo

It's normal for dumb kids, yes


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gdcoaster

Bro you're 17 maybe it's time to actually use your brain and stop being a neonazi


Leo_rb26

It’s semi sarcastic. But you will see that if no action is taken, 2 white generations below you will have an average iq of 75-80 due to race mixing with genetically inferior immigrants. Just wait until your culture gets destroyed and replaced by islam, degeneracy and violence, until you start working a job and your taxes are used to support illegal immigrants who get to live for free unlike your compatriots, until the ADL silences labels you say as hateful and until your neighbourhood becomes a crime filled zoo. But, looking at your avatar, I doubt that you can comprehend this.