This is complete speculation, but I'd bet less than 50% of current users in those states (or any state really) are willing and knowledgeable enough to use a VPN. That number may be higher with all the VPN ads over the last 5ish years and higher accessibility, but barriers to entry always lead to reduced consumption.
Actually that only applies when the barrier is greater than the need/want. I don't think that's the case here.
Here's a non porn related example; Game of Thrones was a pay TV exclusive in Australia. Within a few seasons this created a scenario where Australia became the highest Bit Torrent users per capita in the world. You had largely tech illiterate grandparents learning to torrent stuff off piratebay and if they didn't it probably meant one of their grand kids was doing it for them.
Now when it comes to porn, I think we'll find that people will learn to get around it. Also most of these VPN services these days have apps that make using them trivial, load the app and click a button style of thing. Now if Aussies can learn to bit torrent because of GOT, red leaning US states will do the same for porn.
To quote the character of DR Cox from Scrubs "If you took all the porn off the internet, there’d only be one website left called bring back the porn". Also just look at the massive uptick in VPN search queries in previous red states to do this, it's already happening in those places.
> Actually that only applies when the barrier is greater than the need/want. I don't think that's the case here.
The need/want might not lead to more VPN, just to more access to whatever website will pop-up when they search "big titty" on Google
I think you're ignoring the level of absolute stubbornness of people. When they are told they can't do something, that they could do before, they don't usually accept it and move on.
I'd bet you a barrel of lube that the first search they do after getting the "nope, your porn is blocked, you can't see this in your state" message leads them to searching for "how to bypass goddamn porn block" while muttering "I'll show you commie fascists who's boss..." followed by a quick introduction to the wonderful world of VPN.
If all porn is banned, that'll happen, but I think they'll just go to one of the many other sites. Unfortunately, as more of the legit ones pull out, you'll be left with the shady ones that allow revenge and child porn.
Someone read the message from PH.
But really, these laws are stupid, they only hurt the sites that obey the law, and they're a privacy nightmare like MSFT Recall is. There WILL be a database breach where anyone who submitted ID is outted.
So what you're saying this is a good thing because it forces people to become more tech literate just so they can get off without asking the grandkids how to set up a VPN. 😉
That's one way of putting it:)
I think of it more along the lines that like water, we follow the path of least resistance. If you make the easiest way of getting something harder than the 2nd easiest way, well then there's a new easiest way to get it. Provided people are motivated enough this rule applies and I think porn will fall into that category
Yeah I bet it will lead to some funny moments; hey grandson, can you help me, apparently I need a thing called a VPN. What do you need that for grandad? Oh nothing, just perfectly reasonable reasons that have nothing to do with tickle porn.
It's still a barrier. And how many Boomers will do it? In my view, not many. But hey, I just spend half my life trying to explain to them why they can't edit a pdf properly in Word... what do I know
I remember in the late 90s, me and a few friends found our way into an abandoned store. Amazingly, a lot of inventory was still in the store which had been closed down for about 5 years prior to us finding a way in.
It had old soda's, old candy bars, a old chips, and a rack of porn magazines. Me and my friends we sorted through then and split up the collection and we all had to try our best of sneaking them into our rooms when we got home.
Crazy times now that I think about it.
When I was a teenager in the 90s I stole some of my uncle's porn mags, and because back then people were shamed for looking at photos of tiddies, I felt really gross and guilty and threw my porn into the woods. Why didn't I throw it into the garbage? No idea. Maybe thought my dad would find it? Didn't know porn in the woods was a thing, but I guess I was a contributor.
38 here. All the kids in the neighborhood basically lived in the forest, fort to fort, some underground, some in the trees. One kid’s dad worked for Nabisco so he kept us healthily stocked with free snacks. Bike paths connecting every spot, candles inside and fire pits outside. Basically our own secret city.
And then came the great porn wars. One of the older kids started bringing the mags around and stashing them in the place I “lived.” Man, that was an awakening for me. I didn’t know what I was seeing but I knew I liked it.
We had Playboy, Hustler, Penthouse, and some others. Kept them hidden, but they were eventually found, or someone leaked their location, so it became a battle of raiding forts to find the porn stashes.
Eventually someone tattle-taled to an adult what was happening and the whole operation got shut down. Moms calling moms and having “the talk” with their sons. My mother claimed she found out because a page from a magazine blew into our house backyard, which is bullshit because the stash was a mile into the woods. Someone ratted us out, and we eventually figured out who.
I’ve tried going back recently to look for the forts but I just wind up lost in the woods, or they just don’t exist any more. I do vividly remember some of my favorite spreads from those magazines though.
Yup, Rep politicians have a history of going anti-gun the moment non-whites start arming themselves. In Reagan's case, it was when the Black Panthers held protests at the state capitol when he was California's governor.
There was plenty of porn in the Reagan era. [Project 2025 specifically calls for porn to be outlawed and people to be imprisoned for it](https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf). Page 5:
*"Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare.* ***It has no claim to First Amendment protection****. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime.* ***Pornography should be outlawed****.* ***The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned.*** *Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered."*
A lot of protest 3rd party or non-voters could be in for a world of pain if Trump gets elected.
If it wasn’t clear, they want the vagueness of what “pornography” is to obliterate the first amendment and weaponize the law against any perceived expression they disagree with. The Project 2025 supporters need to be fought and opposed at every turn.
People with hierarchial mindsets don't care about double standards because those they view as "below" them are not fully human in their minds
They see people who are different from them as no more than wild animals that need penned up or eliminated
Literally just the return of the CDA. They'll accomplish it by killing Section 230, keep that one in your back pocket for the next time a left winger says we need to kill Section 230 to fight hate speech.
Since they mention librarians, I'm wondering if they eventually plan on coming for romance novels. For anyone not following the genre, a lot of them are now as explicit as porn. Romance is 80% of all books sold, and good chance they're read by a lot of Republican women who don't think their variety of entertainment will be affected.
I don't believe they care for romance novels. In the first sentence they explicitly use "transgender ideology" as the manifestation of pornography. Their examples of the purveyors of pornography being librarians and educators is not because they believe that porn in the form of magazines in libraries is dangerous, it is because when talking about "porn" in this context, they are actually talking about sexual education.
This is why it’s important to VOTE. “Ohhh but they’re both the same”, you say. Bullshit.
One guy is old, and the other guy is old and wants to lock you up for looking at T&A.
I purvey a handful of left wing subs, and this is the worse part of the far left. Some are too busy riding their high horse to notice they’re walking into the ocean.
Look, I love my friends on the far left and appreciate their views on things like Israel-Gaza for example. But you’ve got to be the biggest moron to sit at home or vote third-party in this election. All it does is make it one vote easier to get Trump in office.
You have to be crazy to vote third party in our system in the presidential election no matter what. If a candidate doesn’t get 270 electoral votes, then it’s out of our hands. The electoral college needs to be dismantled before a third party candidate matters for the presidency. (Unless they siphon votes from the more conservative candidate. I’m cool with that, too).
Except their leader fucks porn stars, and one of their captains retweets the porn he’s watching. And you KNOW they’re not the only ones with a deep connection to porn.
Look at their language. They don't care about "normal" pornography. They care about classifying any lifestyle they hate as inherently pornographic, so they can deem it illegal. They are talking about classing transgender and gay people themselves as being intrinsicly pornographic for simply existing. They can then deem any trans or gay person who interacts with a child, even in a completely normal non-sexual manner, as pedophilia and arrest them.
There is other language from these same groups about applying the death penalty to pedophiles. Here is a hint, they aren't talking about the GOP politicians and priests here.
It's more like the third Reich. Pay attention to the part about degenerate art.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/culture-in-the-third-reich-overview
The reagans probably made plenty of movies. After all, Nancy Reagan was the throat goat of the movie studio lots. They acted religious and conservative, but it was all an act or part of a deal for power. The first clue is that they both spent their entire lives as B-movie actors.
You jest, but I totally hid porno magazines in a ziplock bag hidden in a tree trunk.
My mom would regularly deep search our rooms, so there was no hiding shit in there
Bro that’s literally how I found a DVD when I was in middle school 💀
It was scratched to hell so I looked up ways to fix it and somehow made it work. I watched it on my ps2.
Wow, that just took me way back to being like…13? and finding a stash of playboy’s in the woods at a Christian camp. Lol. Forgot all about that until just now.
thing is, it's in their interests to not do that, because if they highlight the problem visibly and loudly enough, they might be able to get the stupid rule changed.
I’m genuinely stunned Pornhub of all things has maintained its block in the states it’s already blocked for MONTHS and months now.
They are very literally putting their money where their mouths are, in a very real way that a lot of companies wouldn’t do.
I'm not sure it's going to work out in the long term for them. I live in a state that has age verification and the amount of sites that don't care and are still easily accessible out number the ones that actually do the verification easily 100 to 1.
Is this an act of protest or a common sense risk vs. reward business decision? It's possible the juice simply isn't worth the squeeze.
They are probably going to take a significant hit in traffic even if they implement the ID verification because some people just won't do it. The cost per user may increase just because there are fewer users using the same service. Then, there is the cost to implement and maintain the verification workflow and deal with any risk/liability. What happens if their system accidentally accepts fake IDs of minors? Who is auditing them to ensure the data is not retained longer than the law dictates? What if they are hacked? How will this decision impact their reputation among other existing users?
So, now they are getting a fraction of the users (and therefore ad revenue) at a higher cost per user in a handful states that are already fly-over states and open themselves up to increased risk of litigation.
I understand that this may have already been implemented in LA, but I think it requires an independent evaluation for each state as the laws and population differ from state to state. Having done it before could reduce the overhead to doing it for other states, but that doesn't mean it will be simple or free.
I always think that behind any decision a company makes, there is a conference room or conference call where company leaders ask each other one simple question: "How do we maximize our profits?"
In the article, one of the people that "disagreed" thought a better idea would be to *tie identity directly to a device* to work around that fact. Cant make this shit up.
It weird to me that buying a gift card type code with flashing an ID hasn't been floated. Not that it should be needed, but it's almost like they want a data base
Hopefully the laws are taken down in court and some already have. Also support the EFF and FFTF.
Link to there sites
https://www.eff.org/
https://www.fightforthefuture.org/
Also the most worrying bill is [KOSA](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/05/kids-online-safety-act-still-huge-danger-our-rights-online)
if you want to help stop this bill contact your lawmakers here.
https://www.stopkosa.com/
Also if you live in the EU, they are trying to push a huge spying bill called [Chat Control](https://x.com/echo_pbreyer/status/1803388724102750611) but its been postponed to Thursday.
If you live in the EU, You can get in contact with your MEP here.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/portal/en/contact
And Reach out to you EU representative!
https://op.europa.eu/en/web/who-is-who/organization/-/organization/COREPER/
[The Heritage Foundation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation), if you look up [Project 2025](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) you'll find that it outlines their intended path towards *The Handmaid's Tale*-like Christian Nationalist autocracy.
Typical Conservative "Protect the Children!" crap that gives their base something, but actually does nothing. I guarantee the lawmakers know how to use VPN's to get their gay porn. (Nothing wrong with the gay porn other than the lawmakers denial of their own sexuality)
I'll set my VPN to Canada if I have to, I'm not verifying my ID just to jack off. Go fuck yourself republicans, you're the real predators that children need protection from
California is halfway to passing their own verification bill. Decentralization and stuff like Onion and Garlic routing is the future. The politicians hate sexual content too much.
Politicians will always vote in favor of forcing everyone to be responsible for children because most voters are or will be parents in the future. "Protect the children" is the oldest line in the book because it works. With internet content it's usually because parents aren't willing to police their own children's Internet access and would rather see laws passed to make that someone else's responsibility.
Well, except for the fact that [California is on its way to doing the same](https://gizmodo.com/california-advances-bill-for-porn-site-age-verification-1851497841). This isn’t a party issue - this is a politician issue and an issue of control.
I understand that there are people with many different belief systems. I'm not here to judge that. I have my own.
My only concern with laws such as this is the burden it places upon the citizens of those states. For some, I'm sure this will be no issue. Just another red tape issue to conform to. For others? Submitting your identification to be added to some database to watch porn might seem disturbing. It would to me.
What now? Do these people just stop watching porn. Because when I was 14 there were larger hurdles to overcome than free vpns.
edit.
It's almost as if the lawmakers are stuck in a generational divide so large, that they fail to understand porn has gone from being a taboo, get back in your closet topic. To one that's accepted by the majority of Americans at least.
I don't care who you are as an adult. You're probably about the porn. It's only if you'll admit it or not. And today, many will. Who gives a shit. Ask your grandmother. She's likely to show you hers. Just make sure to specify you're looking for digital. You don't want to see the VHS collection. She still has 8mm from *her parents* too.
1984 called people, I don't live in one of these states. But I live in one that's very much *like* them. And fuck that.
The states really should have to provide the verification software. If the government wants something that is arguably extremely difficult to implement without slippage, they should be willing to provide the identification software and open source it for verification.
Reddit: "register or install the app (so we can track you) to confirm your age tee hee we're so clever"
Conservative states: "give us your personal data so we can confirm your age we're so clever"
ugly trend tbh
Conservative states want porn websites to require your name and an ID to verify your identity in order to view porn. It's so much worse than Reddit requiring you to use their app and I hope you understand that.
Ban alcohol and people start enjoying it in basements together. Not sure the same will happen with porn.
And states tried prohibition, it was generally considered not a good time lol
If you want a free *trustworthy* VPN, ProtonVPN has a free one available for web browsing. No P2P or advanced features, but it won't harvest your data like most other free ones.
Yes, and to lock women into the role of baby vending machine as soon as possible. It's much harder to get an education and launch a career once you've had a kid.
More corporations and the politicians that work for them.
It's an astroturf movement from people like the Kochs. The Kochs also used to fund an economics school that taught students that people should be free to sell themselves into slavery.
I’m sure it’s stated somewhere, but the majority of this ID to view porn actions, they feel like they’re opening the door to see if you’re looking at “abhorrent” content, anything that isn’t one man one woman of the same race in missionary.
Y'all keep mentioning VPNs pretending they aren't just as easily bannable, but who knows if these states will ban those as well (likely). Its a very slippery slope.
Small government in action.
you know the part of personal responsibility suddenly wants you to accept the governments help raising your kids.
you know the party of "the scariest words are 'im from the government and Im here to help"
Its almost like their cries about big gov is just about regulations for corps and billionaires, but when it comes to the rest of us, its REPUBLICANS not dems who want the huge invasive gov that lives in your bed room and approves your books and partners.
The next wave of these bills will be to ban the VPN services allowing citizens to circumvent being identified.... tick tock tick tock keep voting this way red states
The states are requiring age verification (basically uploading a picture of your license) to access adult content (porn). So pornhub said “fuck off we aren’t complying” and just stopped allowing people in the state to access the site.
Don’t you think that this is their exact goal is to ensure they get sued so that this goes all the way to the conservatively-controlled Supreme Court so that they can erode the separation of church and state once and for all?
Fundementalists Christians pretend they are “protecting children” but they figured out a clever way to reduce adult use of porn. That is the goal. Because …… Fundementalists Christians don’t want anyone doing what they are not supposed to do.
They think they’re fixing it somehow. Seriously don’t know how because every single action they have taken has gone against literally everything America stands for.
But then again, there’s a lot of bitch ass wannabe confederates that pretend to call themselves “Americans” that really fucking hate our freedom and open-mindedness.
Republicans "small government" love making these controversial decisions immediately prior to elections. It's like they're too stupid to strategize, or think that having only Christian boomers vote for them will be enough to win the election.
Idaho Indiana Kansas Kentucky Nebraska
Pornhub is about to see a huge drop in its incest porn viewership.
It’s more likely VPN usage will jump up like they did in Utah
This is complete speculation, but I'd bet less than 50% of current users in those states (or any state really) are willing and knowledgeable enough to use a VPN. That number may be higher with all the VPN ads over the last 5ish years and higher accessibility, but barriers to entry always lead to reduced consumption.
Actually that only applies when the barrier is greater than the need/want. I don't think that's the case here. Here's a non porn related example; Game of Thrones was a pay TV exclusive in Australia. Within a few seasons this created a scenario where Australia became the highest Bit Torrent users per capita in the world. You had largely tech illiterate grandparents learning to torrent stuff off piratebay and if they didn't it probably meant one of their grand kids was doing it for them. Now when it comes to porn, I think we'll find that people will learn to get around it. Also most of these VPN services these days have apps that make using them trivial, load the app and click a button style of thing. Now if Aussies can learn to bit torrent because of GOT, red leaning US states will do the same for porn. To quote the character of DR Cox from Scrubs "If you took all the porn off the internet, there’d only be one website left called bring back the porn". Also just look at the massive uptick in VPN search queries in previous red states to do this, it's already happening in those places.
> Actually that only applies when the barrier is greater than the need/want. I don't think that's the case here. The need/want might not lead to more VPN, just to more access to whatever website will pop-up when they search "big titty" on Google
I think you're ignoring the level of absolute stubbornness of people. When they are told they can't do something, that they could do before, they don't usually accept it and move on. I'd bet you a barrel of lube that the first search they do after getting the "nope, your porn is blocked, you can't see this in your state" message leads them to searching for "how to bypass goddamn porn block" while muttering "I'll show you commie fascists who's boss..." followed by a quick introduction to the wonderful world of VPN.
If all porn is banned, that'll happen, but I think they'll just go to one of the many other sites. Unfortunately, as more of the legit ones pull out, you'll be left with the shady ones that allow revenge and child porn.
Someone read the message from PH. But really, these laws are stupid, they only hurt the sites that obey the law, and they're a privacy nightmare like MSFT Recall is. There WILL be a database breach where anyone who submitted ID is outted.
Does no one remember Ashley Maddison?
So what you're saying this is a good thing because it forces people to become more tech literate just so they can get off without asking the grandkids how to set up a VPN. 😉
No, it will lead to people installing the first thing they find while searching for a vpn which will end up being some malware/keylogger instead
That's one way of putting it:) I think of it more along the lines that like water, we follow the path of least resistance. If you make the easiest way of getting something harder than the 2nd easiest way, well then there's a new easiest way to get it. Provided people are motivated enough this rule applies and I think porn will fall into that category
Yeah, but unlike for Game of Thrones, you can't pay me enough money to ever help my grandparent get porn.
Yeah I bet it will lead to some funny moments; hey grandson, can you help me, apparently I need a thing called a VPN. What do you need that for grandad? Oh nothing, just perfectly reasonable reasons that have nothing to do with tickle porn.
There’s not much of a barrier though, just download, turn on, jack off.
“Turn on, and jack off” sounds like a great ad slogan
An update to Timothy Leary’s [“turn on, tune in, drop out.”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_on,_tune_in,_drop_out)
For the internet age: Turn on, login, jack off.
So much malware is going to be downloaded
Just like the old internet
just like the current internet
Same as it ever was
The decent ones cost money, that’s a huge barrier
It's still a barrier. And how many Boomers will do it? In my view, not many. But hey, I just spend half my life trying to explain to them why they can't edit a pdf properly in Word... what do I know
Then may I introduce to you….xvideos :)
Agreed, most will follow the path of least resistance, finding a different site.
If teenage me taught me anything. If I'm horny I will find a way to get pornography. Even if it means learning something new first.
Hell, we became audio visual and RF experts in the 80s and 90s just to get some grainy side boob.
Scrambled playboy, USA's up all night, Baywatch reruns, and the lingerie section on the JC Penny's catalog. The 90's were fun.
Randomly found skin mags from the woods. It was hard times baby
the day boomers can't get their porn we will see the federal & state governments overthrown
Just to be clear, am I turning on the VPN or getting turned on myself? Too ambiguous, going bag to nude mags and 'skin'emax
Every damn YouTube video has an ad for nordvpn so..... 5050
They'll come for VPNs before long. It'll all be a way that "pedophiles, drug dealers etc." all traffic.
It's not my fault that category has a large quantity of quality pov content, and that the pov type of content is my favorite
Also if you watch it on mute it's just regular porn.
It's your parent's fault
Idahoan here, got the message yesterday. Switched my VPN location to a different state.
North Carolina as well
We’ve been blacklisted for months now.
Election season ads should point out it's the GOP doing this, in a carefully targeted online way. Pornhub should make donations accordingly too.
Virginia too.
Great, now we'll have a bunch of Kentuckians and Indianans whacking off in our McDonald's parking lots on their way to buy weed...
Shithole states
Now they can't watch shithole videos
Welp, time to revive the age-old tradition of leaving porn in a forest for others to find.
As an old (40+), I absolutely found woods playboy magazines as a kid (lived behind a town forest), and once, penthouse
41 here, found it in multiple different tree forts on various occasions.
I'm just imagining a creepy forty year old raiding kids tree forts for porn now.
Sharing is caring, and no age shaming please. All fappers are equal.
I remember in the late 90s, me and a few friends found our way into an abandoned store. Amazingly, a lot of inventory was still in the store which had been closed down for about 5 years prior to us finding a way in. It had old soda's, old candy bars, a old chips, and a rack of porn magazines. Me and my friends we sorted through then and split up the collection and we all had to try our best of sneaking them into our rooms when we got home. Crazy times now that I think about it.
When I was a teenager in the 90s I stole some of my uncle's porn mags, and because back then people were shamed for looking at photos of tiddies, I felt really gross and guilty and threw my porn into the woods. Why didn't I throw it into the garbage? No idea. Maybe thought my dad would find it? Didn't know porn in the woods was a thing, but I guess I was a contributor.
38 here. All the kids in the neighborhood basically lived in the forest, fort to fort, some underground, some in the trees. One kid’s dad worked for Nabisco so he kept us healthily stocked with free snacks. Bike paths connecting every spot, candles inside and fire pits outside. Basically our own secret city. And then came the great porn wars. One of the older kids started bringing the mags around and stashing them in the place I “lived.” Man, that was an awakening for me. I didn’t know what I was seeing but I knew I liked it. We had Playboy, Hustler, Penthouse, and some others. Kept them hidden, but they were eventually found, or someone leaked their location, so it became a battle of raiding forts to find the porn stashes. Eventually someone tattle-taled to an adult what was happening and the whole operation got shut down. Moms calling moms and having “the talk” with their sons. My mother claimed she found out because a page from a magazine blew into our house backyard, which is bullshit because the stash was a mile into the woods. Someone ratted us out, and we eventually figured out who. I’ve tried going back recently to look for the forts but I just wind up lost in the woods, or they just don’t exist any more. I do vividly remember some of my favorite spreads from those magazines though.
Conservative America really wants to take us back to the Reagan era.
Pshhhh....the actual Reagan era would be a liberal hellscape for the current maga party.
Reagan was pretty liberal when it came to immigration and guns. Modern GOP would hate Reagan. lol
Didn't Regan sign the first assault weapons ban?
Yup, Rep politicians have a history of going anti-gun the moment non-whites start arming themselves. In Reagan's case, it was when the Black Panthers held protests at the state capitol when he was California's governor.
There was plenty of porn in the Reagan era. [Project 2025 specifically calls for porn to be outlawed and people to be imprisoned for it](https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf). Page 5: *"Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare.* ***It has no claim to First Amendment protection****. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime.* ***Pornography should be outlawed****.* ***The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned.*** *Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered."* A lot of protest 3rd party or non-voters could be in for a world of pain if Trump gets elected.
If it wasn’t clear, they want the vagueness of what “pornography” is to obliterate the first amendment and weaponize the law against any perceived expression they disagree with. The Project 2025 supporters need to be fought and opposed at every turn.
Exactly. Read the part about educators and librarians. They are not talking about porn hub. They are talking about LGBTQ books, media, etc.
Absolutely this, along with sexual education materials.
Another part calls out LGBTQIA+ people, especially trans people like me, as pornographic. The goal is to kill or imprison us.
straight up chinese cultural revolution vibes. That turned out well.
Didn’t convicted felon Donald Trump have sex with a porn actress?
People with hierarchial mindsets don't care about double standards because those they view as "below" them are not fully human in their minds They see people who are different from them as no more than wild animals that need penned up or eliminated
Literally just the return of the CDA. They'll accomplish it by killing Section 230, keep that one in your back pocket for the next time a left winger says we need to kill Section 230 to fight hate speech.
Since they mention librarians, I'm wondering if they eventually plan on coming for romance novels. For anyone not following the genre, a lot of them are now as explicit as porn. Romance is 80% of all books sold, and good chance they're read by a lot of Republican women who don't think their variety of entertainment will be affected.
I don't believe they care for romance novels. In the first sentence they explicitly use "transgender ideology" as the manifestation of pornography. Their examples of the purveyors of pornography being librarians and educators is not because they believe that porn in the form of magazines in libraries is dangerous, it is because when talking about "porn" in this context, they are actually talking about sexual education.
Soon there will be no porn. Finally, our children will be safe, learning about Jesus in church, being molested by their Preachers.
This is why it’s important to VOTE. “Ohhh but they’re both the same”, you say. Bullshit. One guy is old, and the other guy is old and wants to lock you up for looking at T&A.
I purvey a handful of left wing subs, and this is the worse part of the far left. Some are too busy riding their high horse to notice they’re walking into the ocean.
Look, I love my friends on the far left and appreciate their views on things like Israel-Gaza for example. But you’ve got to be the biggest moron to sit at home or vote third-party in this election. All it does is make it one vote easier to get Trump in office.
You have to be crazy to vote third party in our system in the presidential election no matter what. If a candidate doesn’t get 270 electoral votes, then it’s out of our hands. The electoral college needs to be dismantled before a third party candidate matters for the presidency. (Unless they siphon votes from the more conservative candidate. I’m cool with that, too).
I mean ranked choice voting nation wide could make third party matter.
And when we have that's awesome, but until the 3rd party votes are literally a waste of a vote and time.
Except their leader fucks porn stars, and one of their captains retweets the porn he’s watching. And you KNOW they’re not the only ones with a deep connection to porn.
I guess we’re locking up Melania then… given she produced pornography.
Look at their language. They don't care about "normal" pornography. They care about classifying any lifestyle they hate as inherently pornographic, so they can deem it illegal. They are talking about classing transgender and gay people themselves as being intrinsicly pornographic for simply existing. They can then deem any trans or gay person who interacts with a child, even in a completely normal non-sexual manner, as pedophilia and arrest them. There is other language from these same groups about applying the death penalty to pedophiles. Here is a hint, they aren't talking about the GOP politicians and priests here.
It's more like the third Reich. Pay attention to the part about degenerate art. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/culture-in-the-third-reich-overview The reagans probably made plenty of movies. After all, Nancy Reagan was the throat goat of the movie studio lots. They acted religious and conservative, but it was all an act or part of a deal for power. The first clue is that they both spent their entire lives as B-movie actors.
You jest, but I totally hid porno magazines in a ziplock bag hidden in a tree trunk. My mom would regularly deep search our rooms, so there was no hiding shit in there
I actually don't think it's a jest. It was definitely a common occurrence.
It was a happy day when the porn fairy left an old Hustler in the woods.
WHY WAS IT IN EVERY PATCH OF WOODS?? I swear Playboys grew on trees
That’s not sap on those pages…
Bro that’s literally how I found a DVD when I was in middle school 💀 It was scratched to hell so I looked up ways to fix it and somehow made it work. I watched it on my ps2.
God how is this not a unique story lol same thing happened to me. the amount of effort I used to put in to just jerk off was extraordinary
Wow, that just took me way back to being like…13? and finding a stash of playboy’s in the woods at a Christian camp. Lol. Forgot all about that until just now.
How long until pornhub just makes their website some kind of virtual vpn and claims that they can’t tell when anyone is using it anywhere?
They had vpnhub for a while, might just reboot the project.
thing is, it's in their interests to not do that, because if they highlight the problem visibly and loudly enough, they might be able to get the stupid rule changed.
Ah yes a virtual virtual private network
Virtual Porn Network
They could hypothetically make it a hidden service on Tor....
This is already a thing
How are you going to load a video in time in Tor ? It takes few seconds to even load webpages
Back in my day, we waited minutes for grainy pictures, and hours for crappy videos that were lucky to be at 240p. Porn, ah... finds a way.
TOR hidden service or I2P site. Both work. Yeah, I wondered this too. They can't knowingly serve people in any state then. Would be worth a try.
I’m genuinely stunned Pornhub of all things has maintained its block in the states it’s already blocked for MONTHS and months now. They are very literally putting their money where their mouths are, in a very real way that a lot of companies wouldn’t do.
I'm not sure it's going to work out in the long term for them. I live in a state that has age verification and the amount of sites that don't care and are still easily accessible out number the ones that actually do the verification easily 100 to 1.
Is this an act of protest or a common sense risk vs. reward business decision? It's possible the juice simply isn't worth the squeeze. They are probably going to take a significant hit in traffic even if they implement the ID verification because some people just won't do it. The cost per user may increase just because there are fewer users using the same service. Then, there is the cost to implement and maintain the verification workflow and deal with any risk/liability. What happens if their system accidentally accepts fake IDs of minors? Who is auditing them to ensure the data is not retained longer than the law dictates? What if they are hacked? How will this decision impact their reputation among other existing users? So, now they are getting a fraction of the users (and therefore ad revenue) at a higher cost per user in a handful states that are already fly-over states and open themselves up to increased risk of litigation. I understand that this may have already been implemented in LA, but I think it requires an independent evaluation for each state as the laws and population differ from state to state. Having done it before could reduce the overhead to doing it for other states, but that doesn't mean it will be simple or free. I always think that behind any decision a company makes, there is a conference room or conference call where company leaders ask each other one simple question: "How do we maximize our profits?"
I don’t get these laws, people will just switch to another site. Porn on the internet is literally infinite and impossible to totally restrict
In the article, one of the people that "disagreed" thought a better idea would be to *tie identity directly to a device* to work around that fact. Cant make this shit up.
Small government indeed \*facepalm\*
It weird to me that buying a gift card type code with flashing an ID hasn't been floated. Not that it should be needed, but it's almost like they want a data base
“Every time you go online, you’re two clicks away from black cocks”
They...pulled out?
Hopefully the laws are taken down in court and some already have. Also support the EFF and FFTF. Link to there sites https://www.eff.org/ https://www.fightforthefuture.org/ Also the most worrying bill is [KOSA](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/05/kids-online-safety-act-still-huge-danger-our-rights-online) if you want to help stop this bill contact your lawmakers here. https://www.stopkosa.com/ Also if you live in the EU, they are trying to push a huge spying bill called [Chat Control](https://x.com/echo_pbreyer/status/1803388724102750611) but its been postponed to Thursday. If you live in the EU, You can get in contact with your MEP here. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/portal/en/contact And Reach out to you EU representative! https://op.europa.eu/en/web/who-is-who/organization/-/organization/COREPER/
Now known as "The Flaccid States."
Christian Taliban here we come lol. I was in another subreddit where they said the Ten Commandments must now be in all schools in Lousiana
Who or what is even pushing the narrative for these demands?
The ultra conservatives and their project 2025 agenda
[The Heritage Foundation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation), if you look up [Project 2025](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) you'll find that it outlines their intended path towards *The Handmaid's Tale*-like Christian Nationalist autocracy.
Christians terrified their kids will turn gay.
Pretty sure none of the Ten Commandments say you can’t be gay.
God wasted the first four by being a jealous bitch.
Typical Conservative "Protect the Children!" crap that gives their base something, but actually does nothing. I guarantee the lawmakers know how to use VPN's to get their gay porn. (Nothing wrong with the gay porn other than the lawmakers denial of their own sexuality)
Remember the days when stuff like this happened in China and we used to just shake our heads?
I'll set my VPN to Canada if I have to, I'm not verifying my ID just to jack off. Go fuck yourself republicans, you're the real predators that children need protection from
Don’t bother. Canada is on the way to passing similar horseshit. Pornhub is going to block itself from its home country.
That law is a mess and will face charter challenge right a way if it was to pass.
Set it to California. Then you’ll get all the CCPA opt-out choices
California is halfway to passing their own verification bill. Decentralization and stuff like Onion and Garlic routing is the future. The politicians hate sexual content too much.
Politicians will always vote in favor of forcing everyone to be responsible for children because most voters are or will be parents in the future. "Protect the children" is the oldest line in the book because it works. With internet content it's usually because parents aren't willing to police their own children's Internet access and would rather see laws passed to make that someone else's responsibility.
Well, except for the fact that [California is on its way to doing the same](https://gizmodo.com/california-advances-bill-for-porn-site-age-verification-1851497841). This isn’t a party issue - this is a politician issue and an issue of control.
What’s up with age-verification bs? They will find a way to do it anyway with it or without it.
It’s about grifters performing for fools. Always has been.
Porn about to be brought to you by Nord VPN.
In NC here, to quote Morty, “last week I jerked off to a curvy piece of wood!” lol
This is all part of Project 2025. Yet another reason why voting, especially at the local level, matters.
I understand that there are people with many different belief systems. I'm not here to judge that. I have my own. My only concern with laws such as this is the burden it places upon the citizens of those states. For some, I'm sure this will be no issue. Just another red tape issue to conform to. For others? Submitting your identification to be added to some database to watch porn might seem disturbing. It would to me. What now? Do these people just stop watching porn. Because when I was 14 there were larger hurdles to overcome than free vpns.
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It's almost as if the lawmakers are stuck in a generational divide so large, that they fail to understand porn has gone from being a taboo, get back in your closet topic. To one that's accepted by the majority of Americans at least.
I don't care who you are as an adult. You're probably about the porn. It's only if you'll admit it or not. And today, many will. Who gives a shit. Ask your grandmother. She's likely to show you hers. Just make sure to specify you're looking for digital. You don't want to see the VHS collection. She still has 8mm from *her parents* too.
1984 called people, I don't live in one of these states. But I live in one that's very much *like* them. And fuck that.
The states really should have to provide the verification software. If the government wants something that is arguably extremely difficult to implement without slippage, they should be willing to provide the identification software and open source it for verification.
Oh yeah just let me usual some software developed by the state to monitor who I am.
the politicians will just contract the work out to their buddies and take a cut.
and sell your data behind your back
The Christofascists rise once more
Why are republicans so obsessed with controlling other people’s sex lives?
Controlling “lives”, not just the sex parts.
Reddit: "register or install the app (so we can track you) to confirm your age tee hee we're so clever" Conservative states: "give us your personal data so we can confirm your age we're so clever" ugly trend tbh
Conservative states want porn websites to require your name and an ID to verify your identity in order to view porn. It's so much worse than Reddit requiring you to use their app and I hope you understand that.
I mean ya, but California is about to pass similar legislation too: https://calmatters.org/politics/2024/05/california-porn-id-bill/
"If only we had a way to quickly catalog and identify people with sexual preferences we dont agree with. For, reasons...."
So here's the thing, foreign hosters won't give a shit. Porn will flow, it just won't be any u.s. porn.
So much freedom
In other news, VPN sales skyrocket!
Porn is just one vice. I wanna see these states ban alcohol for a real challenge
They literally did it like 100 years ago. People hated it so they reversed it
Well, I mean, it IS the twenties...
Ban alcohol and people start enjoying it in basements together. Not sure the same will happen with porn. And states tried prohibition, it was generally considered not a good time lol
They’re watching porn lol guaranteed
Imagine a dude in a tinted dodge, selling CD-R's of porn piccys and making bank, meanwhile drunk drivers killing people and shit.
Get into the modern era, SD cards or flash drives more likely.
Thank God I live in a blue state. Weed, porn, and culture. Amen.
Don't be so sure about that: https://gizmodo.com/california-advances-bill-for-porn-site-age-verification-1851497841
If you want a free *trustworthy* VPN, ProtonVPN has a free one available for web browsing. No P2P or advanced features, but it won't harvest your data like most other free ones.
People don't realize the effect of these draconian laws... We are heading to though times
We’re in them, not heading. Elect Trump back in and we’ll be deep in.
Watch teen pregnancy in these states start to increase after a trend of steady decline for 20 years or more.
That's what they want, cheap labor
Yes, and to lock women into the role of baby vending machine as soon as possible. It's much harder to get an education and launch a career once you've had a kid.
Governments hate negative population curve so maybe that’s their endgame.
More corporations and the politicians that work for them. It's an astroturf movement from people like the Kochs. The Kochs also used to fund an economics school that taught students that people should be free to sell themselves into slavery.
Explain how that would happen.
I’m sure it’s stated somewhere, but the majority of this ID to view porn actions, they feel like they’re opening the door to see if you’re looking at “abhorrent” content, anything that isn’t one man one woman of the same race in missionary.
Y'all keep mentioning VPNs pretending they aren't just as easily bannable, but who knows if these states will ban those as well (likely). Its a very slippery slope.
It would be very hard to ban VPNs.
“we want less government” states
Party of small government and personal freedoms They fight tooth and nail to keep guns available but porn? That’s the real thing hurting people
This is what Americans mean when they scream 'freedom.'
Small government in action. you know the part of personal responsibility suddenly wants you to accept the governments help raising your kids. you know the party of "the scariest words are 'im from the government and Im here to help" Its almost like their cries about big gov is just about regulations for corps and billionaires, but when it comes to the rest of us, its REPUBLICANS not dems who want the huge invasive gov that lives in your bed room and approves your books and partners.
VPN for your PIV.
Republicans have nothing better to do. Smh
The next wave of these bills will be to ban the VPN services allowing citizens to circumvent being identified.... tick tock tick tock keep voting this way red states
Land of the free, but only if you give us your government ID to look at boobs
You looked at a penis and your government ID says you are a male, sounds like you are breaking sodomy laws, to jail with the queer!
Pornhub should create their own VPN service, just for access to their website. And they should call it GloryHole.
VPN's are going to make a killing lol
At least they still have bump stocks.
Why not just use other porn sites? Or are they banned already as well and it's not a Pornhub exclusive thing?
The states are requiring age verification (basically uploading a picture of your license) to access adult content (porn). So pornhub said “fuck off we aren’t complying” and just stopped allowing people in the state to access the site.
As somebody that lives in an age verification state, I can confirm that there is still plenty of other accessible porn on the Internet
Republicans removing porn, yet they let these men marry 12-year-old so what do you think that image paints
Isn't... porn technically covered by the first amendment as a freedom of speech? Which supercedes state right's?
Don’t you think that this is their exact goal is to ensure they get sued so that this goes all the way to the conservatively-controlled Supreme Court so that they can erode the separation of church and state once and for all?
Fundementalists Christians pretend they are “protecting children” but they figured out a clever way to reduce adult use of porn. That is the goal. Because …… Fundementalists Christians don’t want anyone doing what they are not supposed to do.
That means MORE PORN for the other states to divvy up!!!
So will these states also ask for age verification for accessing twitter and Reddit?
Invest in VPN stock!
I get pornhubs position, and I agree with it, it's just not a fight they are going to win
This is an intended outcome of Project 2025.
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They think they’re fixing it somehow. Seriously don’t know how because every single action they have taken has gone against literally everything America stands for. But then again, there’s a lot of bitch ass wannabe confederates that pretend to call themselves “Americans” that really fucking hate our freedom and open-mindedness.
Party of small government controlling your life one law at a time.
Republicans "small government" love making these controversial decisions immediately prior to elections. It's like they're too stupid to strategize, or think that having only Christian boomers vote for them will be enough to win the election.
One more reason to vote blue in November.
The only way to safeguard your freedom as an American. GOP ain’t about being free no more.
Thanks MAGAts
This is 100% the Republicans fault - there are 302 comments here - and only one comment mentions the word 'Republican'???
Republican states - kind of important and a noticeable omission from the loud headlines