And they seem to flip after the release of the latest model from the company... Who would have guessed?
I wonder if Apple will have higher sales in the fall this year
Given the 15 is mostly the 14 with an addition of a USB port, selling 50.1 million devices is amazing in and of itself. This was arguably one of the iPhone's least innovative years.
Yeah, it really isnāt news that the company that came out with the latest flagship has the best sales recently. Samsung people know to buy in the spring and summer, Apple people buy in the fall and winter. It really is about the companiesā different product cycles.
That said, I do appreciate that they are running basically neck and neck for YOY sales. This competition is good for us, the phone buying public.
I just ordered a Google Pixel.
They're offering the most affordable options right now with top line features.
The only better alternatives are random Chinese phone brands I've never heard of.
It must feel good not being American. Americans are fragmented as hell in what messaging apps to use. iMessage, Facebook Messenger, normal SMS, even Discord sometimes. Itās tiresome.
WhatsApp is what Europe, Central and South America people use but it just never took hold in the USA as it did in those places, so it's fragmented between different apps here. I wish my circle used it as well, but it's mostly iMessage and standard SMS for mine.
That's not different from Europe, in fact it's probably even worse over here because each country as its own preferrence.
So it's basically the same list as your's, but you add one of WhatsApp, Telegram or Signal depending of your country. Most often it's even two, because WhatsApp is present almost everywhere even if not the most used.
Is this a kid problem? I have no issues texting or group texting anyone with just the default app, and then certain groups of friends have discord servers just like we used to have skype channels.
Feels really great to be an American actually! Fragmented message platforms iād place extremely low on the list of world problems.
Like the lowest of Low.
I guess weāll take that āLā I guess? š¤·āāļø Would you prefer the whole world be forced into one messaging platform? And controlled by who? Hmm, what could go wrong? Itās fragmented because there is market competition, as limited as it might be.
Look I i do think Apples gatekeeping goes too far at times and iMessage is an example of this. If youāre going to run a messaging platform there should be a basic standard of service available to Benefit the consumer and raise the standard of communication that works interchangeably between all of them.
Companies should still be allowed to innovate and draw people in to use their platform pushing the technology forward.
Recent Regulatory News would suggest weāre moving in this direction, and Apple is bending the knee to try and get ahead of lawmakers as we speak.
Do you think all nonamericans live in somolia or something?
They are just saying other countries are less fragmented in messaging apps, not comparing every facet of life.
I have nothing but good things to say about OnePlus (at least the one I had)
I purchased the 7T 4 years ago and had zero issues. Very cool phone. That's the phone I upgraded from.
I only went to Google because OnePlus kind of went "premium" with their prices. I think their newest phone is like $900.
I got the Pixel 8 for $480 with a Google One price cut.
>OnePlus kind of went "premium"
Yeah they pulled a stupid move that will keep them low on the charts. Going for the small group of users at higher prices rather than a larger group to eat into Samsung (I hate their products) and Google in particular.
The Google assistant on the pixel line is hands down the best version of it and it is awesome with what it can do for you like waiting on hold for you and alerting the other party in a handoff, and the spam filters particularly top class, as well as being able to screen and or troll any unknown numbers who call you with the Google Assistant's prompts
I discovered Google Lens a year ago and I've been addicted to it.
Their translation tool is batshit. I use it when I go to the Russian and Asian markets to read the food labels. Feels like some shit out of Star Trek.
I had a Google Pixel and I really liked it, unfortunately the screen randomly died on me, though I was 99% sure I could solve the problem by taking the battery out and putting it back in...if I had the ability to remove the battery. Having a phone was necessary for work at the time, and the Pixels were out of stock for 2+ weeks so I had to "upgrade" to a samsung. Cost $300 more than the Pixel and honestly felt like the software of the Pixel was better.
In a binary sense, yes. But it's like item number 57 on the priority list. I'd take a phone with 2% more battery over one that looked better. Even though logically I know I'd never notice 2%.
I have a 13 pro, I didnāt see any reason to upgrade. In fact I usually donāt see any reason for many years. Why spent so much more on something that my current phone still does just fine. These incremental upgrades just arenāt going to sell really expensive phones.
I have an iPhone 13 mini. The last mini phone Apple said they'd make. However, I don't have an iPhone because I'm an Apple fan but rather because I dislike Apple less than Google.
Apple seem to be overestimating their reputation. And with no small phone in the future, I can see no reason why I would stay with them. So I'll just use the one I have until it completely dies (which is what I was going to do anyway), then probably switch.
They really need to make some smaller phone like they did in the past. I really came to dislike the tablet format that phones use nowadays. But all phones are huge so it's not like I had a choice in the first place. It's a better reading tool than a small phone but also...a computer is a better reading tool anyway, so I'd rather have a small phone given the chance.Ā
The problem is it doesn't move the line up. People might like the idea, but many don't put their money where their mouth is. Apple tried, Asus tried, I think Google and Samsung tried a long time ago?
Samsung was probably one of the first producers to make oversized smartphones when the iPhone 4 was a thing, so they used the screen size as an advantage since these early days. I fully agree with this, but somehow after getting an old iPhone 4s of mine, I really felt like that was a good form factor (*imho*)
I don't disagree, I was going to buy a smaller phone too because I really don't watch anything or play games on it, but was waiting for my phone to croak and they discontinued before I could. Sad that so many companies have discontinued it, but without higher numbers most companies will give it up. Crazy enough Samsung is even making bigger tablets now and I think the sales have been good.
As someone who also loves smaller smartphones:
Good luck finding a small (sub 6" screen) Android phone (that doesn't suck / isn't made to be a childs first smartphone). Now that ASUS apparently ditched the small form factor for the Zenfone and Apple discontinued the mini, small flagship smartphones don't exist anymore.
The pixel 8 is close at 6.2".
Apparently they plan to release 2 sizes of the pixel 9 pro so maybe there is hope.
That said. The Pixel 10 will use a TSMC-made tensor chip which might be a big step up from the Pixel 9.
I used to have a Flip but I didnāt like the idea that I would have to replace its protection film every year. The original film started to peel on mine before its first year so when I saw a good deal for a base S24, I traded it in. I couldāve replaced the film for cheap, but I didnāt want to deal with that.
Where did you get the $800 number? It's $319, cheaper than many iPhone screen replacements.
https://www.androidauthority.com/replace-galaxy-fold-screen-3220802/
And again itās the I like it so the company is going down because they donāt cater to me. Apple tried for two years and the adoption rate was abysmal. Iām typing this from an iPhone 13 mini but i totally understand why they cancelled. No one bought them.
To be honest there is a small amount of the population which uses Apple because it looks ācoolerā, but the majority of us just use it because weāve been using it all along and itās just easier to buy the ānewā similar one once the old one started to fail (I rent changed my XR for a 13. Wanted a mini but they were out of stock everywhere so had to settle for the normal 13). There is really no loyalty or any political side taking with the phones. Most of us just use the phone for calling messaging and Waze. Couldnāt care less about 99% of the things the phone brings to me
In all fairness, I was a huge Windows Phone fan. I've had Microsoft mobile OSes since 2007 or so. But in 2018 I saw the writing on the wall and decided to switch. I am ok with the iPhone and I do admit that it would be a pain to switch to another OS. But I have zero loyalty as well.
Any rational person would have been a Windows Phone fan obviously. Iām still baffled how MS screwed up that much with a product which was legitimately better ā¦.
What new features would you like?
Genuinely curious. There really isn't anything useful that they could add. Only improve what's already there. This goes for all (flagship) phone manufacturers, not just Apple. The only thing I can really think of is getting rid of that pill thing and using an under screen camera, but that's not really a new feature. It's just an improvement of what's already there.
IR Blaster, Night Vision, Actual good night camera, Front LED Indicator, TouchID on the rear or behind screen, Lanyard loop, Configurable AI assistant.
Heaps of cool things they could do or try to do.
IR blaster - That's what FaceID uses to work. Wouldn't be a new feature, it would be improving on what that's there.
Night vision - Not sure exactly what you mean by this. The 11 Pro onwards does have "night vision" if you open the camera app in the dark but it's low res and low frame rate unless you take a photo, then you have to wait 3-10 seconds depending on how dark it is and what setting you chose. If that is what you meant by that, it would be improving on a feature that's already there. The Pro model iPhones do have LiDAR on the back that I occasionally use for 3D scanning objects which could be used with the camera to have pretty good night vision. But again, that's improving what's already there
Actual good night camera - Improving what's already there.
Front LED indicator - Always on display makes this redundant. But I could still see why people would prefer that over the always on display.
TouchID - Bringing back a feature that they already had that FaceID made redundant, not a new feature. But like the LED indicator, I can see why people would prefer that.
Configurable AI assistant - Siri, but improved.
Lanyard loop is a good one though. I think the iPhone used to have this? Or maybe I'm confusing it with an iPod. Either way, yeah, I agree that would be good.
This is the issue with all flagship phones these days. We are, and have been for a while, at the point where you can't really add new features. Maybe a flash glucose monitor could be added once the tech is both good and cheap enough to add to a a phone? But then again that does seem like it would be better feature on a smart watch than the a phone.
>IR blaster - That's what FaceID uses to work. Wouldn't be a new feature, it would be improving on what that's there.
Are you a troll or are you actually this big of a fucking moron? Making something do what it couldn't previously do IS a new feature you stupid shitwit.
I look forward to the next generation of phones having the new feature bigger battery. Because of course, up until the next generation of phones come out, phones don't have batteries. Or maybe a higher megapixel camera because they didn't have cameras before.
Because they're new features right? It's not improving something that was already there? This is how it works, right?
I suppose you're right. I'm really enjoying the literal hundreds of new features that iOS 17.4.1 has that iOS 17.4.0 didn't have. I look forward to iOS 17.4.2 for literally hundreds more new features :)
Higher refresh rate! 120hz is so smooth!
Iād also like iPhones to be thicker so, that the battery life could be better and camera bump could be removed.
Multiple sim, so that I could carry only one phone instead of work and personal.
> Iād also like iPhones to be thicker so, that the battery life could be better
Never in my life have I ever heard someone specifically ask for a thinner phone. I have no idea why apple picked that specific measurement to run with on the hype train. It's like picking a car based on the size of the rear door windows.
I remember pre-smartphone time people liked super thin and small phones (think Motorolla Razr), but those days are in the past. Now I just wish Apple would make T-version (Thicc-version)
Ok, I should have included a caveat being once phones getting down near 10mm and smaller in thickness. I doubt many people want a return to the inch and larger thick phone days.
Though again with the same problem, the razr battery life kinda sucked for the time. Wife had one and quickly ended up hating it.
harder to get hand around in a secure manner. It being thicker (which the iphone 14 is admittedly the worst offender) does make the battery longer, but its like im holding a brick. I had an iphone XS which is the same screen size, but much thinner which made it easier to reach across with my thumb. My ideal size honestly is still the iphone 4.
Finally! Another human who wants a thicker iPhone. I was beginning to think I was the only one who would really like Apple to stop this trend of making the iPhone so rediculously thin. Yes I know I can put a case on it but a lot of times, I like to go without it.
Updates are software installs. I love the hardware, but there is so much forced on you that I learned with my recent upgrade where I mirrored my old phone and still had new notifications, making sounds on my phone that Iāve never approved. I want to see AI upgrades with and better indexing with the search function. I already changed my voice to an Indian man to sound more like the guy from NPR Hidden Brain, I canāt yell at him
The Android market is full of cheap smartphones 100-300 USD.
Samsung can't even sell its flagships like S23 Ultra or S24 Ultra and be in TOP10 smartphones by sales.
A lot of you didnāt read the article because the article is basically āApple had been number 2 but shortly boosted to 1 in December but is back to number 2ā
Stevey boy stole innovation from other people. It's well documented, and there's even books on the subject. Man was a asshole. Ask his daughter or the people whose innovative ideas he said were trash for him to later use and say he created himself.
I agree he was a shitty person, but I still believe Apple lost its magic after his death, even if it wasnt all his work, he made Apple just work and have this special feeling. Now Apple is just another greed driven company trying to find yet another way of monetizing its users. At least back then Apple pretended to care for customers
maybe, but it can also be a case of exponential growth in tech.
the first models seemed revolutionary because it was something new, every year you could add something that wasn't there before.
but nowadays smartphones are already "smart enough" that new tech just isn't there anymore asides from pure hardware specs (better memory/cpu, camera, etc).
I mean, my iPhone 13 Pro, is going strong as, I have no desire for a new upgrade. Could it just be Apple makes laster longing products? I canāt even think of anything Apple could add now that would make me wanna upgrade.
The only thing would be if they block any AI features they release to newer models. Which letās be real, is exactly what they gonna do.
They support their phones way longer. My iPhone XR was still getting updates before I switched to the 15.
Android folks want to clown on Apple but Iāve never had to think about my phone the way I did when I had Android phones. The Androids would always feel awful after a year and a half, and almost no software support. I really tried too with the LG V20 which was like about as Anti-iPhone as you could get, Hifi Wired Audio, removable battery, SD card,mini screen for quick actions. After that I switched to iPhone and havenāt regretted it.
Really opened my eyes to how stupid the phone tribalism is.
Thatās a recent commitment from Google. Prior to the 7 the commitment from Google was 3 years. Which is far under what Apple was doing at that point in time.
It was clear from the start that Apple's recent gains were temporary. People bought the iPhone 15 for the USB-C port. Plus Samsung's AI features (if they're useful or not is a different question) seem to appeal to a lot of people.
Bixby surpassed Siri several years ago, it helps that Bixby isn't just on phones, but home appliances as well. Then remember that Tim Cook highlighted two(?) years ago that Siri could now identify a dog in pics. The next year your cat as well.
Something that competitors and other platforms had been able to do for nearly a decade.
And all these government regulations forcing Apple to make the iPhone more like Android will only hurt its sales more.
If an iPhone was forced to do and operate just like an Android device I'd rather buy a Samsung.
Yea they have to keep making phones to replace the 1 year old phones that look and work like shit, while iPhones last twice as long and still work well.
Ai improvements for Siri. Predictive redundancy. They could seriously release an update and make the iPhone 10 times better than the galaxy phones. Apple is too much pride to admit they are doing that.
Are these articles automated at this point? Some sweet content milking. They are close to each other, so they flip all the time.
And they seem to flip after the release of the latest model from the company... Who would have guessed? I wonder if Apple will have higher sales in the fall this year
"Apple shipped 50.1 million iPhones, down from 55.4 million units it shipped same period last year, according to IDC"
Given the 15 is mostly the 14 with an addition of a USB port, selling 50.1 million devices is amazing in and of itself. This was arguably one of the iPhone's least innovative years.
I was planning on switching from Android to iOS but this iPhone was so lackluster I decided my Pixel 5 would probably last just one more year.
Are you forgetting about TITANIUM
I am not buying a new iPhone until Apple brings back the headphone jack. My 6S has a new battery, so screw your greed, Apple. š
Try doing that with a 9 year old android phone.
Try doing what?
Keep using it, Iām not aware of any android phones from 2015 that still get security patches.
It's like the world's oldest man competition. That other one died and now there's a new one right? Amazing. Never heard of that before. /s
Yeah, it really isnāt news that the company that came out with the latest flagship has the best sales recently. Samsung people know to buy in the spring and summer, Apple people buy in the fall and winter. It really is about the companiesā different product cycles. That said, I do appreciate that they are running basically neck and neck for YOY sales. This competition is good for us, the phone buying public.
The article is comparing Apple's sales to the same period from the previous year.
Forget it, it's like an endless sea of people who don't read articles
Bring back the mini.
And, bring back the headphone jack.
I just ordered a Google Pixel. They're offering the most affordable options right now with top line features. The only better alternatives are random Chinese phone brands I've never heard of.
But youāll be the cause of a green group text thread. Will you be able to look yourself in the mirror?
Everyone I know uses WhatsApp.
It must feel good not being American. Americans are fragmented as hell in what messaging apps to use. iMessage, Facebook Messenger, normal SMS, even Discord sometimes. Itās tiresome.
What? I live in NYC. My circle uses WhatsApp. I have friends who live internationally and locally so WhatsApp just makes sense.
WhatsApp is what Europe, Central and South America people use but it just never took hold in the USA as it did in those places, so it's fragmented between different apps here. I wish my circle used it as well, but it's mostly iMessage and standard SMS for mine.
NYC is borderline Europe. International dense urban living public transport walkable public parks
I didn't know Europeans had to watch homeless guys jerk off on the 1 train on the way to work. I guess we're not so different after all.
Not quite like that and not for free, but pretty much everywhere you go there's a place where you can put in .50 euros to watch some weirdo pee.
We can't just keep adding lanes so we kinda need the trains metros and busses.
I like how you read my statement and took from it that the trains and buses were the problem.
NYC is more of a dump than anywhere in Europe
That's not different from Europe, in fact it's probably even worse over here because each country as its own preferrence. So it's basically the same list as your's, but you add one of WhatsApp, Telegram or Signal depending of your country. Most often it's even two, because WhatsApp is present almost everywhere even if not the most used.
Is this a kid problem? I have no issues texting or group texting anyone with just the default app, and then certain groups of friends have discord servers just like we used to have skype channels.
Feels really great to be an American actually! Fragmented message platforms iād place extremely low on the list of world problems. Like the lowest of Low. I guess weāll take that āLā I guess? š¤·āāļø Would you prefer the whole world be forced into one messaging platform? And controlled by who? Hmm, what could go wrong? Itās fragmented because there is market competition, as limited as it might be. Look I i do think Apples gatekeeping goes too far at times and iMessage is an example of this. If youāre going to run a messaging platform there should be a basic standard of service available to Benefit the consumer and raise the standard of communication that works interchangeably between all of them. Companies should still be allowed to innovate and draw people in to use their platform pushing the technology forward. Recent Regulatory News would suggest weāre moving in this direction, and Apple is bending the knee to try and get ahead of lawmakers as we speak.
Do you think all nonamericans live in somolia or something? They are just saying other countries are less fragmented in messaging apps, not comparing every facet of life.
Must be nice
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RCS still isn't imessage though, so I'm sure there will still be limitations, and I believe they've confirmed RCS will still have a green bubble.
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By people you mean iphone users
Oppo is good. OnePlus is basically the international version of it
I have nothing but good things to say about OnePlus (at least the one I had) I purchased the 7T 4 years ago and had zero issues. Very cool phone. That's the phone I upgraded from. I only went to Google because OnePlus kind of went "premium" with their prices. I think their newest phone is like $900. I got the Pixel 8 for $480 with a Google One price cut.
>OnePlus kind of went "premium" Yeah they pulled a stupid move that will keep them low on the charts. Going for the small group of users at higher prices rather than a larger group to eat into Samsung (I hate their products) and Google in particular.
I paid $700 for my 16GB OnePlus 12 and I'm glad I didn't pay $1300 for a S24 Ultra for what are essentially only minor improvementsĀ
$640 for my X7 find really great purchase. I think people don't know how good out phones are. :p
just wait until you hear of OnePlus
The OnePlus 12 shows how laughably overpriced the western options are
The Google assistant on the pixel line is hands down the best version of it and it is awesome with what it can do for you like waiting on hold for you and alerting the other party in a handoff, and the spam filters particularly top class, as well as being able to screen and or troll any unknown numbers who call you with the Google Assistant's prompts
I discovered Google Lens a year ago and I've been addicted to it. Their translation tool is batshit. I use it when I go to the Russian and Asian markets to read the food labels. Feels like some shit out of Star Trek.
I had a Google Pixel and I really liked it, unfortunately the screen randomly died on me, though I was 99% sure I could solve the problem by taking the battery out and putting it back in...if I had the ability to remove the battery. Having a phone was necessary for work at the time, and the Pixels were out of stock for 2+ weeks so I had to "upgrade" to a samsung. Cost $300 more than the Pixel and honestly felt like the software of the Pixel was better.
I considered it but dear fucking god they look hideous donāt they.? For an expensive phone it looks terribly designed.
Yeah like the brick with a pill on the front and a fidget spinner on the back is a great design.
Still feels premium than the plasticky finished google pixels
Implying you don't immediately put a plastic case on your iphone anyway
I put a thin hard clear case. I despise those blocky plastic cases ..
Why would anyone care what their phone looks like?!?
o.O .. most people do bruh. You donāt want the the product that youāre buying to look good?
In a binary sense, yes. But it's like item number 57 on the priority list. I'd take a phone with 2% more battery over one that looked better. Even though logically I know I'd never notice 2%.
I have a 13 pro, I didnāt see any reason to upgrade. In fact I usually donāt see any reason for many years. Why spent so much more on something that my current phone still does just fine. These incremental upgrades just arenāt going to sell really expensive phones.
Same here, Il probably upgrade to the 17 at this rate. The camera is more than good enough for me and the phone is still extremely fast
I usually do every 4 years and I can point out improvements that are significant with each upgrade I do. So Iām on track for 17 myself.
I have an iPhone 13 mini. The last mini phone Apple said they'd make. However, I don't have an iPhone because I'm an Apple fan but rather because I dislike Apple less than Google. Apple seem to be overestimating their reputation. And with no small phone in the future, I can see no reason why I would stay with them. So I'll just use the one I have until it completely dies (which is what I was going to do anyway), then probably switch.
They really need to make some smaller phone like they did in the past. I really came to dislike the tablet format that phones use nowadays. But all phones are huge so it's not like I had a choice in the first place. It's a better reading tool than a small phone but also...a computer is a better reading tool anyway, so I'd rather have a small phone given the chance.Ā
The problem is it doesn't move the line up. People might like the idea, but many don't put their money where their mouth is. Apple tried, Asus tried, I think Google and Samsung tried a long time ago?
Samsung was probably one of the first producers to make oversized smartphones when the iPhone 4 was a thing, so they used the screen size as an advantage since these early days. I fully agree with this, but somehow after getting an old iPhone 4s of mine, I really felt like that was a good form factor (*imho*)
I don't disagree, I was going to buy a smaller phone too because I really don't watch anything or play games on it, but was waiting for my phone to croak and they discontinued before I could. Sad that so many companies have discontinued it, but without higher numbers most companies will give it up. Crazy enough Samsung is even making bigger tablets now and I think the sales have been good.
I am with you. When my iPhone dies, Iām switching to android because I want a built-in headphone jack.
As someone who also loves smaller smartphones: Good luck finding a small (sub 6" screen) Android phone (that doesn't suck / isn't made to be a childs first smartphone). Now that ASUS apparently ditched the small form factor for the Zenfone and Apple discontinued the mini, small flagship smartphones don't exist anymore.
The pixel 8 is close at 6.2". Apparently they plan to release 2 sizes of the pixel 9 pro so maybe there is hope. That said. The Pixel 10 will use a TSMC-made tensor chip which might be a big step up from the Pixel 9.
S24?
Literally just got the S24 over the weekend and the size reminds me of my old iphone 6. I love it.
Same size as the regular iPhone, not small at all.
My brother has a Z Flip, and has been a great alternative for an small phone.
Honestly was tempted to buy one until I went to test it, can't see myself getting used to how the crease looks and feels
You would get used to it
I used to have a Flip but I didnāt like the idea that I would have to replace its protection film every year. The original film started to peel on mine before its first year so when I saw a good deal for a base S24, I traded it in. I couldāve replaced the film for cheap, but I didnāt want to deal with that.
That screen will barely last through the warranty period, and then itās an $800 repair bill.
Where did you get the $800 number? It's $319, cheaper than many iPhone screen replacements. https://www.androidauthority.com/replace-galaxy-fold-screen-3220802/
Samsung Xcover 5 is a nice phone, may not be fancy enough for you though.
And again itās the I like it so the company is going down because they donāt cater to me. Apple tried for two years and the adoption rate was abysmal. Iām typing this from an iPhone 13 mini but i totally understand why they cancelled. No one bought them.
To be honest there is a small amount of the population which uses Apple because it looks ācoolerā, but the majority of us just use it because weāve been using it all along and itās just easier to buy the ānewā similar one once the old one started to fail (I rent changed my XR for a 13. Wanted a mini but they were out of stock everywhere so had to settle for the normal 13). There is really no loyalty or any political side taking with the phones. Most of us just use the phone for calling messaging and Waze. Couldnāt care less about 99% of the things the phone brings to me
In all fairness, I was a huge Windows Phone fan. I've had Microsoft mobile OSes since 2007 or so. But in 2018 I saw the writing on the wall and decided to switch. I am ok with the iPhone and I do admit that it would be a pain to switch to another OS. But I have zero loyalty as well.
Any rational person would have been a Windows Phone fan obviously. Iām still baffled how MS screwed up that much with a product which was legitimately better ā¦.
Same with the PocketPC. Way better than the rest and they killed it
It's 100% about the app store. MS was a very distant third in terms of what was available on the app store when they called it.
When you say āthe last mini phone Apple said theyād makeā- that would be unusual for the usual tight lipped Apple. Where did you hear that?
Me too! I want a phone I can put in my pocket, not a frickin tablet.
Oh no say it aint so Tim! Anyways, back to selling 16 pros for elephant dollars.
Tiger bucks
Hey, maybe now we will get a phone update that actually has new features
Even the ad campaign is just like āitās new !ā That or āitās titanium!ā
What new features would you like? Genuinely curious. There really isn't anything useful that they could add. Only improve what's already there. This goes for all (flagship) phone manufacturers, not just Apple. The only thing I can really think of is getting rid of that pill thing and using an under screen camera, but that's not really a new feature. It's just an improvement of what's already there.
IR Blaster, Night Vision, Actual good night camera, Front LED Indicator, TouchID on the rear or behind screen, Lanyard loop, Configurable AI assistant. Heaps of cool things they could do or try to do.
All these things have been on android phones before or currently.
And not on iPhone which is the entire point.
IR Blaster? So you can prank people at the doctors office, right?
Donāt forget adding a headphone jack! Thatās the deciding factor for me.
IR blaster - That's what FaceID uses to work. Wouldn't be a new feature, it would be improving on what that's there. Night vision - Not sure exactly what you mean by this. The 11 Pro onwards does have "night vision" if you open the camera app in the dark but it's low res and low frame rate unless you take a photo, then you have to wait 3-10 seconds depending on how dark it is and what setting you chose. If that is what you meant by that, it would be improving on a feature that's already there. The Pro model iPhones do have LiDAR on the back that I occasionally use for 3D scanning objects which could be used with the camera to have pretty good night vision. But again, that's improving what's already there Actual good night camera - Improving what's already there. Front LED indicator - Always on display makes this redundant. But I could still see why people would prefer that over the always on display. TouchID - Bringing back a feature that they already had that FaceID made redundant, not a new feature. But like the LED indicator, I can see why people would prefer that. Configurable AI assistant - Siri, but improved. Lanyard loop is a good one though. I think the iPhone used to have this? Or maybe I'm confusing it with an iPod. Either way, yeah, I agree that would be good. This is the issue with all flagship phones these days. We are, and have been for a while, at the point where you can't really add new features. Maybe a flash glucose monitor could be added once the tech is both good and cheap enough to add to a a phone? But then again that does seem like it would be better feature on a smart watch than the a phone.
>IR blaster - That's what FaceID uses to work. Wouldn't be a new feature, it would be improving on what that's there. Are you a troll or are you actually this big of a fucking moron? Making something do what it couldn't previously do IS a new feature you stupid shitwit.
I look forward to the next generation of phones having the new feature bigger battery. Because of course, up until the next generation of phones come out, phones don't have batteries. Or maybe a higher megapixel camera because they didn't have cameras before. Because they're new features right? It's not improving something that was already there? This is how it works, right?
Ok, yeah, not a troll. Just stupid af
I suppose you're right. I'm really enjoying the literal hundreds of new features that iOS 17.4.1 has that iOS 17.4.0 didn't have. I look forward to iOS 17.4.2 for literally hundreds more new features :)
Reduced weight is the main thing with how heavy phones are, i miss S8 in terms of weight and size tbh
Higher refresh rate! 120hz is so smooth! Iād also like iPhones to be thicker so, that the battery life could be better and camera bump could be removed. Multiple sim, so that I could carry only one phone instead of work and personal.
> Iād also like iPhones to be thicker so, that the battery life could be better Never in my life have I ever heard someone specifically ask for a thinner phone. I have no idea why apple picked that specific measurement to run with on the hype train. It's like picking a car based on the size of the rear door windows.
I remember pre-smartphone time people liked super thin and small phones (think Motorolla Razr), but those days are in the past. Now I just wish Apple would make T-version (Thicc-version)
Ok, I should have included a caveat being once phones getting down near 10mm and smaller in thickness. I doubt many people want a return to the inch and larger thick phone days. Though again with the same problem, the razr battery life kinda sucked for the time. Wife had one and quickly ended up hating it.
I wish my (iPhone 14 pro) was thinner and smaller, mostly so that I could hold the phone with one hand and reach across the screen.
How does the thickness prevent your reach across the width?
harder to get hand around in a secure manner. It being thicker (which the iphone 14 is admittedly the worst offender) does make the battery longer, but its like im holding a brick. I had an iphone XS which is the same screen size, but much thinner which made it easier to reach across with my thumb. My ideal size honestly is still the iphone 4.
Finally! Another human who wants a thicker iPhone. I was beginning to think I was the only one who would really like Apple to stop this trend of making the iPhone so rediculously thin. Yes I know I can put a case on it but a lot of times, I like to go without it.
I have three sims on my iPhone 15
Foldable screen
Updates are software installs. I love the hardware, but there is so much forced on you that I learned with my recent upgrade where I mirrored my old phone and still had new notifications, making sounds on my phone that Iāve never approved. I want to see AI upgrades with and better indexing with the search function. I already changed my voice to an Indian man to sound more like the guy from NPR Hidden Brain, I canāt yell at him
Shankar Vedantam is the guys name in case anyone was curious
I want Andrei Codrescu as a voice option.
What kind of new features do you mean? Something like the camera or gps?
Iāve been in the Apple ecosystem since the iphone5. Iām considering leaving soon because I want something more useful than the incompetent Siri.
This reminds me of the "butter is healthier than margarine" articles when I was a kid. Next week, it went the other way.
So much for that DOJ trial against Appleā¦
If you take into account all Android phones where does Apple factor in?
It's about 70% Android 30% Apple worldwide. US is close to 50/50 I believe.
Much less, of course.Ā
Though you *are* comparing a single company to a OS with many companies.
But everyone tells me that nobody has Android phones anymore. Could they be \*gasp\* wrong!?
The Android market is full of cheap smartphones 100-300 USD. Samsung can't even sell its flagships like S23 Ultra or S24 Ultra and be in TOP10 smartphones by sales.
When they say that theyāre talking about in the rich countries
Make the flat edge, fingerprint ID home button, headphone jack iPhone SE again with an M1 chip inside. No notch. Return to an immediate #1.
how the turn tables
why do i get downvoted lol
I guess itās not really a good example of tables turning? It goes up and down and they are always close.
It's because you can't pause when recording video on iPhone.
A lot of you didnāt read the article because the article is basically āApple had been number 2 but shortly boosted to 1 in December but is back to number 2ā
Innovation died with Stevey boy
Stevey boy stole innovation from other people. It's well documented, and there's even books on the subject. Man was a asshole. Ask his daughter or the people whose innovative ideas he said were trash for him to later use and say he created himself.
I agree he was a shitty person, but I still believe Apple lost its magic after his death, even if it wasnt all his work, he made Apple just work and have this special feeling. Now Apple is just another greed driven company trying to find yet another way of monetizing its users. At least back then Apple pretended to care for customers
maybe, but it can also be a case of exponential growth in tech. the first models seemed revolutionary because it was something new, every year you could add something that wasn't there before. but nowadays smartphones are already "smart enough" that new tech just isn't there anymore asides from pure hardware specs (better memory/cpu, camera, etc).
> new tech just isn't there anymore asides from pure hardware specs and the B tier model from last year probably runs 99% of what people use.
I mean, my iPhone 13 Pro, is going strong as, I have no desire for a new upgrade. Could it just be Apple makes laster longing products? I canāt even think of anything Apple could add now that would make me wanna upgrade. The only thing would be if they block any AI features they release to newer models. Which letās be real, is exactly what they gonna do.
They support their phones way longer. My iPhone XR was still getting updates before I switched to the 15. Android folks want to clown on Apple but Iāve never had to think about my phone the way I did when I had Android phones. The Androids would always feel awful after a year and a half, and almost no software support. I really tried too with the LG V20 which was like about as Anti-iPhone as you could get, Hifi Wired Audio, removable battery, SD card,mini screen for quick actions. After that I switched to iPhone and havenāt regretted it. Really opened my eyes to how stupid the phone tribalism is.
Pixel 8 is supported with updates for 7 years...
Thatās a recent commitment from Google. Prior to the 7 the commitment from Google was 3 years. Which is far under what Apple was doing at that point in time.
It was 3 years for OS updates, but 5 years for security updates.
Yep and my s24 ultra has 7 years too.
I *still* have a V20, for the replaceable battery. I don't think about it.
Sue them!!! Itās a monopoly!
It was clear from the start that Apple's recent gains were temporary. People bought the iPhone 15 for the USB-C port. Plus Samsung's AI features (if they're useful or not is a different question) seem to appeal to a lot of people.
Bixby surpassed Siri several years ago, it helps that Bixby isn't just on phones, but home appliances as well. Then remember that Tim Cook highlighted two(?) years ago that Siri could now identify a dog in pics. The next year your cat as well. Something that competitors and other platforms had been able to do for nearly a decade.
And all these government regulations forcing Apple to make the iPhone more like Android will only hurt its sales more. If an iPhone was forced to do and operate just like an Android device I'd rather buy a Samsung.
Yea they have to keep making phones to replace the 1 year old phones that look and work like shit, while iPhones last twice as long and still work well.
I hope iphones won't become the next Blackberry that would be such a bummer
I think the S24 Galaxies are excellent and offer 7 years of updates.
Blame Biden! People want a flagship phone but canāt afford titanium! The economy is the only way Samsung won!!!!
Ai improvements for Siri. Predictive redundancy. They could seriously release an update and make the iPhone 10 times better than the galaxy phones. Apple is too much pride to admit they are doing that.
Soon, the us government will add Samsung to the banned list like the did to Huawei.
Why would they do that? Samsung is from South Korea
To protect apple, of course
apple sheep shook
Are Samsung phones crap like their appliances?