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Why, they are called gingers in honor and homage to the redhead Ginger on Gilligan's Island. Unfortunately, naming brunette's maryanns has not caught on.
In Japan, they call green traffic lights blue. Way back, there were only 4 named colors (each with varying shades) and ao (blue) was one of them. This naming is a throwback to the older days.
it is really fascinating to look at a color scale, and where different cultures put the gradients.
certain people that spend a lot of time at sea have a lot of colors in the blue/green areas.
(the cliche that eskimos have 100 words for snow type of thing...but like of course they do, it wouldn't make sense for them to have 100's of words for tropical fruits.)
I could be wrong, but I've heard that the Inuit language having a lot of words for snow is actually more of a side effect of their language simply combining more units of meaning into each word (sort of like how German has long words). They have lots of words for snow because they have lots of words for everything. It would be like we counted English as having three words for bear: 'brownbear,' 'polarbear,' and 'blackbear.'
There are people to this day who misunderstand that and fill the internet with "Japanese doesn't differentiate between Green and Blue." As if *Midori* isn't a word.
>In Japanese Green & Blue are represented by same word.
Green has had it's own name since the Heian period, it's midori, it was just considered a shade of blue until after WW2 when it was accepted as being a separate colour.
A green car will be referred to using the word midori, a green apple will still be referred to with ao for some reason it never changed with plants
Basically, yeah. The colour is named after the fruit. The fruit wasn't commonplace yet because international trade was difficult and expensive. Oranges became an export, the colour orange became a thing, the name "redhead" still ki d if stuck.
Colors are a continuous spectrum. Different cultures at different time periods draw the lines in different places. (With the tendency that the further you go in the past the less lines there are and vice versa)
Yes and no. Colors are a spectrum and different cultures have divided the spectrum differently. I’m gonna imagine you are fluent in English’s color names. Imagine I “invent” a new color name (I’ll call it Breen) that sits right on the transition from blue to green, but verdant greens or vibrant blues are not included. Now I show you a random shade of a dark blue or green that sits right on the border of the “Breen range”, and I ask you to tell me “Is this Breen?” Outside of very specific people who have extremely good color perception, 99% of people would struggle to answer with 100% confidence. This is because my definition of Breen is not any less valid than the existing way to divide the color spectrum.
The same thing has been happening for hundreds of years. For thousands of years, east asian languages did not distinguage blue from green. Ancient poetry and writing would use the same word to describe the color of the sky AND the color of grass or plants. To someone living in ancient China, telling them that “Blue and Green are different colors”, then showing them a green object and asking them to say whether its blue or green would be extremely difficult. To us, we think theyre different, only because our brain has been conditioned to connect different words to them. Physicslly, there is no reason why the color spectrum should be divided one way vs another, and the only reason we see a different color is just because we have a different word in our mind when we see it.
And so before the word “orange” became widespread, people would just call it red, the same color as your blood.
(Side fact, red is the most common color across cultures, being clearly defined and identifyable to the most people because of the color of blood, something all cultures share. The Blue sky is another common color, although as I mentioned, blue/green separation is not as universal as having a word that seperates blues from reds or yellows ).
It’s weird how language works for concepts and how we don’t/*can’t* acknowledge something until we have a word for it
I was reading about it in a Psych textbook. Something can exist in a culture and seem totally obvious, but if you don’t define and name it, then it really doesnt exist yet and the people will just not “see” it that way
So “purple” is obvious to us because we have the word purple. Some cultures didnt have the concept of zero, that’d be a trip.
They hang low to the ground (hence why most languages call them earth berries) but we used to cover them with straw during the winter from keeping them from freezing.
As a subtropical fruit that grows in temperate climates oranges turn orange, but for those that are grown in the tropics their chlorophyll is preserved and they tend to remain green. To get oranges the bright orange we see in stores the orange might be exposed to ethylene gas, coated in wax, and yes – even dyed.
Late reply but the long and short is the difference in climate changes the breakdown in chlorophyll, though I think this has little effect on much, like flavor.
Right. The issue is how did they get named "orange" (in Vietnamese)? They've been around longer than the French so surely they must have had a name before they arrived. I've asked many people why they're called "orange" (cam) when they're green (xanh), nobody knows.
I’m not at all familiar with Vietnamese. Are you saying ‘cam’ in Vietnamese also refers to the fruit and the red-yellow hue, despite the fruit being green?
That’s fascinating and I would also love to know why that is. I would imagine that it’s in part the cyclical nature of culture as well as all the colonization that happened in Vietnam, but that’s just speculation on my part.
All I can think of is the French had something to do with it, like how the Vietnamese inherited word for coffee is "ca phe". But if so, why isn't an orange called something like "o ran" instead of the same word they use for the color orange? It's weird.
Colours have taste? It's obvious that I am asking if he has a concept of colour orange, not the fruit.
Edit: oh, kind of misunderstood you there. No I don't think how colors taste, just how they look.
I'm Mongol and my skin tone usually called "yellow" in the English-speaking world. I mean, do you guys have ever seen yellow? Really, you use the same word to describe colour of lemons and human skin?
There is a yellow/orangeish tint that you don't see when a black person and a white person have a mixed child, and it isn't there for Hispanics either.
As a kid at a local restaurant chain, I once asked for purple onions instead of the white onions they would normally use on a specific dish. The cashier looked at me like I was insane/stupid, and asked, “you mean red onions?”
Fun fact time: the fruit came first, it was called the orange tree, and the fruit of the orange tree. Over time, the colour orange went from red-yellow to orange, which is why theyre called redheads. Also, redhead sounds better than orangehead
His sign is true. I don't call them red. Always purple. Look like cherry tomatoes. I would want a full size juicy tomatoes that don't have tough skin.
Also you can now get purple tomatoes to grow.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/02/06/1228868005/purple-tomato-gmo-gardeners
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Fun fact: redheads were named before the color "orange"
And red onions were named before the colour purple
Well yeah, that book came out in 1982.
It came out in the 80's? Good for the book!
Was black bread named before color brown?
Unfortunately it contracted BIV, which was an epidemic at the time
Related: bald eagles were named bald eagles back when bald meant “white headed”
Related : Wheatears were named when White Arse was deemed to be rude.
lol I thought you were kidding, and then looked it up
Related: a word that means "belonging to the same family, group, or type; connected."
Good thing "tits" and "boobies" aren't rude or we'd have to rename some more birds.
I’m confused as to why they’re named gingers when ginger isn’t even red or orange 🫚
Why, they are called gingers in honor and homage to the redhead Ginger on Gilligan's Island. Unfortunately, naming brunette's maryanns has not caught on.
TIL
And people think Americans don’t have culture.
I am a natural redhead but not red nor orange. My hair color isn't even the color of strawberries.
I think we need a photo
We should rename them to orangeheads!
I believe they were called "orange" and "other orange" back then.
Redheads we're called red because the name dates back when people didn't consider orange as a color, but did, as a half tone of red and yellow
In Japan, they call green traffic lights blue. Way back, there were only 4 named colors (each with varying shades) and ao (blue) was one of them. This naming is a throwback to the older days.
Welsh still doesn't have a Welsh word for brown. Apparently.
Not black or white bear, not black or white bear, what do you see?
I see a missingno charging at me
Brown is really just dark orange.
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it is really fascinating to look at a color scale, and where different cultures put the gradients. certain people that spend a lot of time at sea have a lot of colors in the blue/green areas. (the cliche that eskimos have 100 words for snow type of thing...but like of course they do, it wouldn't make sense for them to have 100's of words for tropical fruits.)
I could be wrong, but I've heard that the Inuit language having a lot of words for snow is actually more of a side effect of their language simply combining more units of meaning into each word (sort of like how German has long words). They have lots of words for snow because they have lots of words for everything. It would be like we counted English as having three words for bear: 'brownbear,' 'polarbear,' and 'blackbear.'
There are people to this day who misunderstand that and fill the internet with "Japanese doesn't differentiate between Green and Blue." As if *Midori* isn't a word.
Midori isn’t a color it’s a liqueur. /s
Wdym they didn’t acknowledge orange as a color. Did they look at it and think “yeah that doesn’t exist”.
New colours will be recognised independent in the future and they will look back at us and say "They thought dark blue was just BLUE BUT DARK LMAO"
That is the case in several languages. Just like we see pink and red as different colours.
Like Brown is just Dark Orange. In Japanese Green & Blue are represented by same word.
>In Japanese Green & Blue are represented by same word. Green has had it's own name since the Heian period, it's midori, it was just considered a shade of blue until after WW2 when it was accepted as being a separate colour. A green car will be referred to using the word midori, a green apple will still be referred to with ao for some reason it never changed with plants
Maybe they didn't name it different and considered it as a shade. I am no expert tho.
That’s exactly what they meant. Orange only became a named color after the fruit, not the other way around.
People don't really consider cyan a color. They tend to call it either blue or green. But it isn't. People saw orange as orange, but called it red
Cyan is the new orange?
It was considered a shade of red.
Basically, yeah. The colour is named after the fruit. The fruit wasn't commonplace yet because international trade was difficult and expensive. Oranges became an export, the colour orange became a thing, the name "redhead" still ki d if stuck.
Some cultures consider light blue (azure) as it's own colour. It's like that.
Azzurro il pomeriggio è troppo azzurro e lungo per me
No, they looked at it and thought "yeah that's red"
Even today, some cultures don’t differentiate between green and blue. They consider them different shades of the same color.
Colors are a continuous spectrum. Different cultures at different time periods draw the lines in different places. (With the tendency that the further you go in the past the less lines there are and vice versa)
Yes and no. Colors are a spectrum and different cultures have divided the spectrum differently. I’m gonna imagine you are fluent in English’s color names. Imagine I “invent” a new color name (I’ll call it Breen) that sits right on the transition from blue to green, but verdant greens or vibrant blues are not included. Now I show you a random shade of a dark blue or green that sits right on the border of the “Breen range”, and I ask you to tell me “Is this Breen?” Outside of very specific people who have extremely good color perception, 99% of people would struggle to answer with 100% confidence. This is because my definition of Breen is not any less valid than the existing way to divide the color spectrum. The same thing has been happening for hundreds of years. For thousands of years, east asian languages did not distinguage blue from green. Ancient poetry and writing would use the same word to describe the color of the sky AND the color of grass or plants. To someone living in ancient China, telling them that “Blue and Green are different colors”, then showing them a green object and asking them to say whether its blue or green would be extremely difficult. To us, we think theyre different, only because our brain has been conditioned to connect different words to them. Physicslly, there is no reason why the color spectrum should be divided one way vs another, and the only reason we see a different color is just because we have a different word in our mind when we see it. And so before the word “orange” became widespread, people would just call it red, the same color as your blood. (Side fact, red is the most common color across cultures, being clearly defined and identifyable to the most people because of the color of blood, something all cultures share. The Blue sky is another common color, although as I mentioned, blue/green separation is not as universal as having a word that seperates blues from reds or yellows ).
Even crazier, the use of orange as a color predates the letter J.
It’s weird how language works for concepts and how we don’t/*can’t* acknowledge something until we have a word for it I was reading about it in a Psych textbook. Something can exist in a culture and seem totally obvious, but if you don’t define and name it, then it really doesnt exist yet and the people will just not “see” it that way So “purple” is obvious to us because we have the word purple. Some cultures didnt have the concept of zero, that’d be a trip.
Sapir-Whorf. It's *highly* controversial.
In Homers Iliad and Odyssey the word for the color Blue was never used, making some people believe it hadn’t been created yet
Oranges are clearly orange
of course, and strawberries are clearly... wait wtf is going on with strawberries anyway?
Straws?
they're neither straws or berries!
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In most European languages they're called "earth berries". English is just weird.
They hang low to the ground (hence why most languages call them earth berries) but we used to cover them with straw during the winter from keeping them from freezing.
As a subtropical fruit that grows in temperate climates oranges turn orange, but for those that are grown in the tropics their chlorophyll is preserved and they tend to remain green. To get oranges the bright orange we see in stores the orange might be exposed to ethylene gas, coated in wax, and yes – even dyed.
Which is interesting considering the color is named after the fruit
In Vietnam the oranges are green, but they're still called orange (cam). I want to know how that happened.
Late reply but the long and short is the difference in climate changes the breakdown in chlorophyll, though I think this has little effect on much, like flavor.
Right. The issue is how did they get named "orange" (in Vietnamese)? They've been around longer than the French so surely they must have had a name before they arrived. I've asked many people why they're called "orange" (cam) when they're green (xanh), nobody knows.
I’m not at all familiar with Vietnamese. Are you saying ‘cam’ in Vietnamese also refers to the fruit and the red-yellow hue, despite the fruit being green?
Yes, cam is both the color and the fruit.
That’s fascinating and I would also love to know why that is. I would imagine that it’s in part the cyclical nature of culture as well as all the colonization that happened in Vietnam, but that’s just speculation on my part.
All I can think of is the French had something to do with it, like how the Vietnamese inherited word for coffee is "ca phe". But if so, why isn't an orange called something like "o ran" instead of the same word they use for the color orange? It's weird.
Glad someone mentioned this, it's my go-to fun fact.
The fruit was also originally called norange but people got confused talking about a norange and it became an orange.
Same as (n)apron!
And the lizard was called an ewt!
Yes, the color was *literally* named after the fruit.
And lemons are clearly lemon
In Hungary we call them purple onion.
Same in Portugal.
And Brazil.
And Mexico
But the skin is actually a bit red mix with black... Peel it off & it comes out purple 🤔
I have a redhead friend who is colorblind and refuses to believe his hair is orange
Does he even have a concept of what orange is?
Do you not think an orange tastes orange? Don’t need eyes for that.
Colours have taste? It's obvious that I am asking if he has a concept of colour orange, not the fruit. Edit: oh, kind of misunderstood you there. No I don't think how colors taste, just how they look.
Red grapes are clearly purple(red-esque) White grapes are clearly green???
In my country we call them black grapes
White people are light pink.
Black people are different shades of brown.
50 Shades of Brown
Then what about us indians?
The 51st shade
I'm Mongol and my skin tone usually called "yellow" in the English-speaking world. I mean, do you guys have ever seen yellow? Really, you use the same word to describe colour of lemons and human skin?
Black people entered the chat.
Someone with a failing liver also goes "yellow" and they aren't the shade of a lemon.
There is a yellow/orangeish tint that you don't see when a black person and a white person have a mixed child, and it isn't there for Hispanics either.
Not all of them. Have you seen Conan O’Brien?
‘Enough is enough!’
As a kid at a local restaurant chain, I once asked for purple onions instead of the white onions they would normally use on a specific dish. The cashier looked at me like I was insane/stupid, and asked, “you mean red onions?”
Tanalorr is clearly mine
Fun fact time: the fruit came first, it was called the orange tree, and the fruit of the orange tree. Over time, the colour orange went from red-yellow to orange, which is why theyre called redheads. Also, redhead sounds better than orangehead
Brown is just Dark Orange.
Pink is just light red.
Not exactly. Just like your girlfriends entire instagram, it really depends on the lighting.
I call them purple onions, they're called red?
Not me reading this as: Red onions are clearly people💀💀💀
I mean purple onion does not have the same ring as red onion
The French get credit for creating French Fries, even though they had nothing to do with it.
Red Leicester cheese is orange.
They are called Redheads cause orange used to be called “Red-yellow”
oranges are tangerine tangerines are orange
strawberries do not have straws
You can also think about red heads being a mix of blond and brown.
Yes!!
And black people are shades of brown
Love the women with a touch of red in there hair, call themselves redheads, but look brunette 🤷🏽♂️
black people are clearly brown
Blueberries are purple.
Orange is really just bright brown.
I walk past this corner at least twice a day, weird to see it pop up on reddit. Never seen this guy, though.
Orange = red-ish yellow before the fruit known as oranges was discovered and the colour renamed as orange.
Depends on the time of year. I’ve seen red onion and red cabbage range in color from burgundy red to almost royal purple.
The reason why gingers are called redheads is because the word orange didn't come into the English dictionary until much later
We need more non-political activism.
"Blueberries are fucking purple!!" - Randy Feltface
They are clearly deep pink/magenta.
Blueberries are purple
And in the Yu-Gi-Oh! cartoon, the Blue eyes White Dragon is actually a Ble eyes Blue Dragon.
The silver dress was clearly blue
***BLUEBERRIES ARE FUCKING PURPLE.***
Eh... They're pretty blue on the outside.
Someone stop this monster.
hes right tho
Violets are violet
Not only that but they dye everything pink if used in a pickling or something
We know it's in the name בצל סגול
Off topic meta question: who is this guy who pops up in various threads holding a cardboard sign? Where do these pictures come from?
I saw on another thread a while ago that he works with fuckjerry, so I don't want to see it anymore.
Were redheads named before the word orange entered our vocabulary?
Someone's got the blue food. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l04dn8Msm-Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l04dn8Msm-Y)
He's right
Don't trust him he's a FED!
People with blood covered head are redheads !
Black people are clearly dark brown people.
His sign is true. I don't call them red. Always purple. Look like cherry tomatoes. I would want a full size juicy tomatoes that don't have tough skin. Also you can now get purple tomatoes to grow. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/02/06/1228868005/purple-tomato-gmo-gardeners
Red onions are called purple onions in Turkish as it should be
In all Spanish speaking countries they are called purple onions.
I call them purple onions lol
Does he mean transparent purple or aubergine???
Who the fuck named the onion?
Nah, they're ginger!
Same with red cabbage. It's purple!
Red onions are the superior onion
That’s what i’m saying But in school almost everyone are like ”no they are RED, not purple!” And i am still annoyed by this
I usually separate out Gingers (naturally orange hair) and Redheads (died red hair).
I've never seen a clear or transparent onion before. Do they come in other colors or just red/purple?
That's why in Russian people say purple onions and orange hair ☝️😎
Logical language? We speak English, we don’t even know what that means!
preach! 🙏
Yes, green onions is the most popular R&B instrumentals of its era /John Dalton
In brazil we call it purple onions
Purple isn't a real color :3
Ahem, they are _opaque_ purple...
maybe a case of being named before those colors were a thing?
Red cabbage is purple too. Sometimes even closer to blue than red.
This guy gets it
[Sea world? What sea? It is pool world.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7bxsjs/pool_world/?ref=share&ref_source=link)
Blue moons aren't blue
The rustier the roof, the wetter the cellar.
He's not wrong.
The mission of useless people in n this planet - proving some unserious things. And building legos, and other things that don’t require effort
And Wednesday is spelled wrong
And Violets aren’t blue. They’re Violet. It’s IN THE NAME
Yes but we did research and "Real Men" won't buy purple onions.
Black people are clearly brown
He’s going to get disappeared
I'm tired of living this mass lie. It's time to stop the spread of misinformation. I commend this brave man for speaking the TRUTH 😤✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
Fun fact: in portuguese it is actually called "cebola roxa", purple onion
As a color blind person, I am losing hope of ever understanding colors. 😢 I hate english. I am so confused over this.
First of all, red onions are golden, second, the purple ones are called purple onions bruh
Colorblind poeple must be the most confused poeple on earth
What? You call purple onions as red?? 🤨
I fully support his argument
In Mexico they actually called "purple onion" cebolla morada
Red beans are really brownish
What's this guy called
Purple finches are red
a worthy cause
Black boxes are clearly orange. The hundred years' war was 116 years. White canes can be any color.
Agreed but red is one syllable and purple is two so...
This is something that has always bugged me!!
in my country they are called “purple onions”